₦airaland Forum

Naajjii:
These are Igalas are you seeing similarities with other northern people right? Go to northern Igalas the real Igalas you find them alot.
you better go back to your Abakaliki and chill !!!

Yes that was the old Attah of Igala, a muslim. The current Attah of Igala is a christian and he is very much anti Arewa unlike the old one. He banned all Igala royalties and traditional leaders from wearing the turban.
Look in the 2nd picture below and see how the royalties by his side now dress
The previous muslim Attah of Igala himself even wears the turban like an Emir (picture 1). The current one does not try that nonsense. You see why I differentiated between middlebelt christians and muslims in my previous post which warranted you to call me a religious bigot?
Have you seen Igala masquerades? Igalas take so much pride in their masquerades, ask them! And these masquerades are shared by many Igbo subtribes. Show me the masquerades of the caliphate Little wonder Hausa fulanis see Igala muslims as fake muslims.

Naajjii:
Ha ha look at this Iyamiri, you are still struggling Nigeria with us , I thought you people see Nigeria as Zoo in line with your leader Kalu. What are you still looking for in Zoo? Confused people, if someone gives you money you will forget your struggle.

CIN RANI, that is what you are.

Naajjii:
Lol which your people are you talking here, your Iyamiri people or what? Good that you know that Igala Idoma taught you how to organise kingship and civilisation. You people didn't have kings like other culture back in the days. Most of your kings have northern roots through Igalas who transfer civilisation from the core north to you people in the east, go and do more research you will find out.

Igalas had no relationship with the core-north except for some little trade through the Nupes. Igalas destroyed and defeated Danfodio and his men when he tried to come conquer them and force emirates on them.

Igala kingship is more related to with the Benin kingship than it is the Emirate. Your caliphate nonsense is limited to Niger state.

Igbos were a democratic and decentralized society. Isn't this the same democracy that the whole world is practicing today and is considered to be superior today? I guess Igbos saw ahead

Among my people in Plateau, our tribes were also quite decentralized without big kings. Same as Tivs, Idomas and many other middlebelt tribes.

Nsukka/Nzam is the only major area in Igbo land with Igala influence. I think it was sad that so many many Igalas have been Igbonized today . This was a big loss to Igala land and the middlebelt at large.

I think this is one reason Igbos became so much in numbers, they absorbed many Igalas to the north, absorbed many Edos to the west and absorbed many Ijaws, Ibibios and Ogojas to the South & East.

Naajjii:
You are an Igbo otherwise you wont be writing sh it about north central people the way you do. you have said negative things about virtually all tribes in central Nigeria. Tivs,Jukuns,Igalas,Nupes,Gbagis,Ebira you have all called them names just because they wont key into your Biafra dream.
Kwontinue

Show me what I wrote negative about the Jukuns and Tivs!
I called Tivs expansionists and that is not an insult. They themselves know this. They are of Bantu origin and one of the greatest racial/linguistic expansion of the last few millenia was carried out by the Bantus.

Yes, I despise most Niger state and Kogi state tribes because most of them have sold out their identity and purpose because of religion. They have chosen to be fulani slaves willingly especially the Ebiras & Nupes who are predominantly muslims.
Igalas and Gbagyis are better because most/half of them are christians and no way can religion blind them.

North central is a very useless definition. As a Plateau man from the so called North-central, I see nothing that relates me with an Ebira, Nupe, Bussa or Ilorin person, but I see everything that relates me with Bachamas, Marghis, Kilbas, Buras and Tangales from Adamawa/South Borno/South Gombe in the North-east.

Naajjii:
Jokker and dreamer of the Century, i wont even bother explaining my to you my place anymore, you are an Igbo CLAIMING MIDDLEBELT. You people are not attractive to many tribes, how comes Niger Deltans that are very close to you in culture and way of life and are supposed to work with you to make Biafra work are running away from you?Then we got Yoruba your southern neighbors also having issues with you people. What is it that you are doing wrong?

You cannot even explain your place for me because you are a Buzu settler from Niger repbulic claiming to be a Nigerian.
Anybody should be proud to mention his ethnic group, community and clans. I have done mine. Do yours or forever keep shut. Go back to your country Niger republic CIN RANI.

payosehtor:
why always Tivs and other tribes? it's simply unfounded fear of dominance against the Tivs in the north central and particularly the neighboring tribes.but the Tivs I know are very hospitable ask LADY ADAIBEKU, an igbo lady in the heart of the TIv for avoidance of doubt

Nobody is afraid of Tivs. Tivs are just land expansionists that is all. Tivs come to settle in your forests and find many settlements there, then keep on spreading and spreading. Tomorrow they claim to be indigenes of those forests and farmlands, forgetting that before they got there it was already owned by someone else.

Naajjii:
Yea am using middlebelt for the purpose of this situation otherwise middlebelt is just imaginary. But since you people are disturbing us with Biafran and making reference to middlebelt let use it for now.

Stick to one side Mr Man. You either accept the middlebelt or you don't. Buzaye. Cin rani. Stick to your caliphate. This topic does not relate to your caliphate.
Both Tivs, Jukuns and Igalas all defeated and humiliated your Danfodio who went about forcing people to become muslims by the sword.
Don't come now and start acting brotherly to these tribes when your intention has always been to subdue them.

Adaibeku:
You can as well say Tor tiv the professor am in love wt for his wisdom is a Tiv Hater , he has said worst things ......
When you love people you caution them nt keep quiet ,I trust ur brothers from vandekyaa n gboko they are wise ...Even wen i igbos get dia biafra we can be great christian neighbours doing trade by barter ,Dats all i want from u people ..

And pls stop listening to naajjii frm nasarawa ,i despise him wt all my life ,i hate him so much for his words...if u give him attention i will be ur enemy!

Tiv can stil get dia lost glory back

Naajjii is not from Nasarawa. He is a buzu from Niger republic who migrated to Niger state and now claims it. He is what we call CIN RANI in Hausa. Most Nasarawa people are not pro caliphate like him.

Naajjii:
Look at you Igala, Idoma , Alago, Egbura,Agatu , Jukun came from the same place they are decedant of Kwararafa. Don't be decieved by those Igalas or Idomas at the southern border with Igbo. Go to the mainstream northern Igalas and tell them that. Igala historically captured northern Igbos as slave that is the relationship you have. Those Igalas who show any characteristic of Igbo are seen as inferior. Most peope who misbehave or have bad attitude Igala people seem to question if they are Igbor. They call Hausa Akechi but see Igbo as bad attitude people. I have been to that area. Don't even decieve yourselves. Your culture is inferior , Igala and Idoma thought you civilization they got from the core north.

Hey Mr, I should be the one teaching you about Kwararafa. Add Mumuye, Yukuben, Wurukun, Ekye, Afo, Migili, Jenjo, Eggon-Mada, Goemai and many other tribes in Nasarawa, Taraba, Adamawa and even Plateau in your list. All hail from Kwararafa.
I never said Igala/Idoma had the same origin with Igbos, I only said they have had a long relationship with Igbos by virtue of being neighbours for centuries.

Yes you are right. Northern Igala land (Ankpa, Dekina, Ofu, Omala) was not close to Igbo land and culture unlike the South (Ibaji, Igalamela, Idah, Olamaboro).

Northern Igalas are more in numbers and control most things and that is why they discriminate against the fewer Southern Igalas who appear more Igbo looking.

Nowhere enslaved anywhere.
So many Igalas (especially Soldiers and Warriors) left Idah and other parts of Igala land due to the dictatorship of some Igala kings and founded settlements in northern Igbo land (Nsukka & Nzam axis). These Igalas had a better knowledge of kingship and were stronger, this was how they easily took up leadership in Nsukka and till date many citizens and most kings of Nsukka look up to Idah for their origins.

Everyone sees Igbos as bad attitude people including me and my people so that is not an excuse. Just that Igbos are still far far far better than Hausa fulanis in the eyes of my people. So try another tactic

You have no factor to use in promoting hatred and division between middlebelt tribes and Igbos, but I don't even need to promote the hatred between Hausa fulanis and my people. Hausa fulanis promote it themselves.

Timekeeper:
Bleep history.. They said they don't want anything to do with u.. Must u claim other people just bcox of ur useless biafra.... Leave them alone.. They are middle belt not igbo pay tribe pig

I am not Igbo. I am a middlebelter, it is not in my culture to hide the truth.

I am from Plateau state and I'd be mad to say my people shared any relationship with Igbos. Rather we shared relationship with Hausa fulanis who we now hate with a passion.

In Jos & Kaduna, Idomas & Igala christians are heavily mistaken for Igbos/yoruba sometimes because they do not speak Hausa as a 2nd language and some of them plainly look like Igbos. In fact they sometimes even act like Igbos, especially the Idomas and we call them Inyamiri by default until they explain themselves.

Timekeeper:
The guy didn't attack u. He only thank God for being a yoruba.. So why attack him first? Maybe u shud read again n see that he didn't attack u, Pained osu


U r extraction of osu but from middle belt.. Attacking Yoruba as if we are the cause of ur problems

Hey Mr Man, I will attack and keep on attacking any mad yoruba man just as I attacked any Southerner here who came to write rubbish on this thread just because 2 middlebelt tribes were having a conflict.

Yorubas, Igbos and everyone else have their problems but you don't see my people come to write rubbish on those threads.

You yorubas and Igbos can continue your madness on each other's thread, don't take it to threads about my people cos I will attack.

payosehtor:
You a man from plateau state calling Tiv man a settler in southern Taraba? which historian wrote that perspective and which institution recommended that book you read? maybe the reason this crashes will not cease soon.

My brother this is the sad truth. Tivs are settlers in much of Southern Taraba, but not everywhere in Southern Taraba.
I am greatly interested in the unity of middlebelt tribes hence I don't like to stress on some things that divide us.
I am the leader of an upcoming middlebelt group and I have urged my Jukun brethren that they must learn to accomodate the Tivs in Southern Taraba. Tivs might have come later, but they have been there a long time now and cannot go back anywhere else.

This is the same issue in Nasarawa state where Tivs claim to be indigenes, but the Alagos, Agatus, Ekyes & Akyekura(Jukuns) reject it vehemently.

Why always Tivs and other tribes?

Naajjii:
Ok we will see how that will go if you people will come from your Biafra and force people. I suggest you people go to Niger Delta and try to make them look into the Biafra project that will be more realistic than the North Central Nigeria you eyeing. If you don't want to realise your Biafra dream them keep eyeing us. If Niger Delta agree then Biafra will be easier for you. We on this side don't even care about oil , go with your oil and ritualist. we will focus on our agriculture and everyone have peace.
Am not obsessed about Biafra, this thread is about Tiv-Jukun crisis , one of you came with Biafra stuff and we responded. Why not draw your Biafra map to stretch all the way to kaduna. Let see how that will work out for you.Like I said you better focus on realistic way to achieve your secession project . If someone give you people good money Ego Ego you will forget about Biafra. How do you expect to realize that project when you can be bought easily.

See this one, you claim to be tribeless from Niger state, why is the issue of middlebelt paining you so badly? Are you no longer a citizen of the caliphate?

Here you are now forcing me to be an Igbo man, later you will say I am northern based, then again you believe I am from the middlebelt. You are nothing but a clown.

My fathers compound is in Tongzong, Gindiri, Mangu LGA while my mother is from Chidugun, Jannaret, Mangu LGA.
If you are not a middlebelt impostor tell us where your parents are from like I did, tell me the name of your parents clans like I did. See this Buzu man from Niger republic.

Igbo land is closer to Tiv-Jukun area than wherever you came from.
We bonafide middlebelters have not made up our minds on Biafra yet, but I bet you something that will unite us with the SE/SS against the core north is coming up soon.
I think we have now known overtime who our true friends are in Nigeria. The Igbos wish us well more than Yorubas or Hausa fulanis and we must try to explore the connection. Go and drink poison on that.

See, I have been living in Warri for decades. I have come to understand the Niger deltans very well.
Niger deltans are afraid of a union with the Igbos cos they feel they will be dominated by the Igbos. My own people are the catalysts that will make this union work. Niger deltans will be willing to work with the Igbos if they see we northern minorities working with the Igbos.

At least it could be a unity based on christianity

Let me burst your bubble, Benue - Tararaba/Nasarawa, Plateau- Southern Kaduna. This is how you draw a map from Biafra to Southern Kaduna

Naajjii:
Who dash you , go and face your Biafra. You can not force thing , thing has to be natural. Why can't you use this energy to convince Niger Delta people to join you , that will make Biafra realistic than trying to force yourselves on middlebelters. We are not compatable. We are contented people, how many middlebelters have you heard giving Nigeria bad reputation abroad with looking for money by any means ways? Go and talk with Calabar, Akwa Ibom, Delta, Ijaw people they are your cousins.

You actually don't know that Igalas, Idomas & Igedes share more in common with Igbos than they do with Hausa-fulanis.
They have been neighbours for centuries. In fact, during the colonial period, half of Igala land was under Onitsha province under the Southern protectorate/region. It was later transferred to the North when Auchi was transferred from the north to the south.

That's why you see so many Igalas-Idomas sharing similar names and looks with Igbos. They related with each other for centuries before colonialism. You can see that Igala/Idoma communities are found in Delta, Anambra & Enugu states and Igbos in Benue/Kogi state.

Igalas call Hausa people AKECHI. Ask any Igala person what that means, AKECHI means 'people who speak strange languages'. They never use that to call Igbos whom they are more familiar with.

Naajjii:
Ok aunty/uncle I hear you but face your Biafra no middlebelter will join you. You can try Niger delta if they allow you to join them.
Why is it that any post you people will come with Biafra Biafra thing. This post is talking about TIV Jukun crisis you came here with Biafra. We middlebelter are not compatable with Igbo people go and join South South if they allow you fine.

OMG, I thought you said the middlebelt never existed? Now you have become a middlebelter Wonders shall never end.

Please other middlebelt states have officially dashed Niger state out to the core-north.
Niger state officially belongs with the core north. It is a fulani property, they can take it.

EazyMoh:
You have a fantastic knowledge of the situation.
Few months ago. Indicted and arrested murder suspects were discharged and set free by the state government simply because they are first class citizens in the state.

Is this not what Hausa fulani people do with Nigeria?
Abeg tell me something jare.

payosehtor:
you are right, that state is Ty Danjuma controlled, a jukum warlord whose wealth is only felt when it comes to arming his tribesmen to fight against any tribe that dares their supremacist agenda in particularly stthen Taraba,

Southern Taraba in it's entirety belongs to Jukuns. Hausa fulanis and Tivs are settlers there. Jukuns are only fighting to protect what is ancestrally theirs.

Timekeeper:
So why are you concerned about a fellow yoruba ma, ediot.. Stay in ur middlebelt, lemme stay in my west

I am concerned when a yoruba man decides to display his usual hypocrisy on a thread concerning middlebelt citizens.

Naajjii:
Am also begin to think you are Biafran with the way you take this Biafran thing more than Iyamiri people. Why is it that any post you guys will saturate it with Biafra this Biafra this. You think you can win people over with such ways. You change you characteristic thats when people will come to you. Even if core north leave middlebelt, Biafra is not an option. This post is about tiv-jukun crisis how does that got to do with Biafra? You not from plateau I have come to realize.

You are obviously obsessed with Biafra

Can you show me where I mentioned Biafra in my post?

I know Hausa fulanis and agents of the caliphate like you are not happy seeing Northern minorities like me supporting Igbos over you retrogressive people.

Listen, I am from Diramji & Pusguru clans of the Pyem chiefdom from Plateau state, if you think I am an Igbo man, then that is your own headache.

There is the adage that says, My enemy's enemy automatically becomes my friend. Hausa fulanis and the caliphate have proven to be enemies of most middlebelt tribes. Igbos are also enemies of Hausa fulanis, so what stops the friendship here?

I promise you that within your lifetime, you will witness the bond and great unity that will become of my people and the SE/SS. People like myself and John Danfulani will be there to make sure this happens.

Where were you when John Danfulani, a renowned Southern Kaduna youth leader came out to show open support for Biafra 2 years ago and even claimed that Southern Kaduna will join Biafra?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/southern-kadun-will-go-biafra-danfulani-tells-kanu/?amp

Since you needed something about Biafra, try to choke on this.
No Single Southern Kaduna person came out to challenge him or speak against him when he said that. This should let you know where my people's hearts are gravitating towards, we have not gotten there yet, but we will get there with time. sissoko22

sissoko22:
Which bond with the south?
Ionic bond or covalent bond.

You've been doing great until now.
While can't middle belt be left alone.

I think we would form an 'islamic bond' with the Igbos just as Hausa fulani, middlebelt muslims and yoruba muslims have been forming an islamic bond.

Are you from the middlebelt to tell us who we should bond or shouldn't bond with? Mind your business.

With the way Nigeria stands, middlebelt ethnic groups are better off united with the south than the retrogressive illiterates called Hausa fulanis.

Oricha79:
have you ever seen Ebira people killed and pose with the corpse?

They were not posing with the corpse. Just taking pictures of the corpse.

Timekeeper:
Pained osu tribe

I am from the middlebelt.

Mk93:
where did you get that from? ever been to Lagos? why is the media silent if such amount of people are missing daily in Lagos the heart of Nigeria media? did you travel to the to the so-called human abattoir or did figure out that from your own imagination? no reasonable person will compare the south to the population reduction going on in the 3 northern zones

Oga, I have been living in Warri, Delta state for decades. At least 3 family friends and neighbours who I know personally have been escaped victims of ritual killings. The oracle rejected their heads, as it is usually said.

About 15 years ago in Warri, a massive hideout of ritualists was discovered in Otokutu. Ask anyone who lived in Warri at that time. Hundreds of clothings of victims was discovered there. Randomly once in a while every now and then new hideouts are still bursted. And mind you, Warri dey learn work where Yoruba people dey for rituals.
In Lagos, a bus conductor will just blow powder and the whole bus will fall asleep and be led to a slaughter house.

Who do you expect to fight rituals? The same political leaders and politicians who are the biggest beneficiaries?
Let's not even talk about the Yahoo plus madness now incorporated in all these. Even the daughter of a deputy governor in one of the southwest states was used for rituals by her boyfriend. If such could happen to someone like that, how much more the poor masses who have no voice for media.

Ladies pants are being used anyhow to the extent that it has become normal and everyone laughs and jokes about it.

Trust does not exist in the southern culture because everyone is afraid of everyone.

Everyday we log in to nairaland to see threads of people's heads at roadside and junctions in Port harcourt.
I schooled in one of the southern universities and I lost count of how many times we started running helter skelter for our lives and students killed like rats daily because of cultist clashes.

Please don't get me started. The killings of the north are in form of ethnic conflicts and terrorism and everyone is looking for solutions for them.
Rituals and cult killings has been so normalized that I doubt a solution will ever be found.

I liken the killings of Northern Nigeria and that of Southern Nigeria to the systemic racism of North America (USA) and South America (Brazil).

Racism in North America is so open, unhidden and usually leads to serious conflicts, segregation and killings, but at least people know it is there and they talk about it and find solutions to it
WHILE Racism is South America is the silent kind where everyone will tell you that there is unity and oneness, but you still find only the darker skinned people living in the slums and favelas. You see countries like Mexico, Colombia, Brazil e.t.c where the overwhelming population is Mixed/Black, yet everyone in their movies and beauty pageants are white. Everyone in the corporate world, the government and blue collar jobs are white while everyone doing the menial and dirty jobs are black/mixed.

iammo:
Northerners are more into ritual killing also just that illetracy and lack of media coverage doesnt make the news widespread except massive massacre of stupidity in form of Peasant farmers and miserable herdsmen. who act barbaric just cos of some crops and some livestock we buy cheaply down south

This is absolutely false. Yes, there are extremely few and rare cases of ritual killings in the core north like Kaduna and Kano, but this is non-existent in the middlebelt.
Stories of people escaping from forest fortresses where people are chained in their dozens for the daily slaughter are unheard of, but this is very common all over the south.
I live in Delta state and even close family friends of mine have been escaped victims of ritual killings. Abeg tell me something jare. I have never ever heard such a story from anyone in Jos.

iammo:
So Mr middle belt.. how is me been grateful for been a Yoruba man the source of your life problem.. or would you prefer me been a fulani herdsman ?

You being a hypocrite is my problem. Why don't you thank God for being a yoruba man on the thread of the daily threads of yoruba ritualists busted?

Mk93:
the middle belt that has been turned into the head quarter of humans butchering by herdsmen? how many people get killed for rituals and cultism in a year? up to 100? herdsmen can take out that number in a day.
the north is now leading the south even in kidnapping, cultism and all type of crime

Dozens of people get missing in Lagos alone everyday and few of them survive to tell ordeals of how they found themselves in human abbattoirs in thick forests with hundreds of people captured there and many being butchered day in day out. And that is just one of those. There are dozens more.

Fulani herdsmen casualties are high once in a long time. It's not an everyday occurence. But everyday, dozens of people are abducted and used for rituals in the south.

Besides herdsmen also attack all over the south.

iammo:
why are you pained my friend.. dont you have anything to be grateful for in your life you this Okija shrine Baby factory Boy.

I am from the middlebelt. See how narrow-minded you have become with your tribalism, to the extent that everybody who speaks against Yoruba has suddenly become Igbo?

Naajjii:
In your wildest imagination, bring who close to Iyamiri people. Keep waiting, you better focus and achieve your Biafra alone. Who want to be with drug pushers and killing people for money society.

You are not from the middlebelt Mr Man.
I am from the middlebelt and our people will soon form a bond with the south. Face your caliphate. Jukuns and Tivs are not citizens of the caliphate, so it does not concern you.

Mk93:
only Boko Haram population reduction in borno covers all you mentioned. what about herdsmen?

Boko haram killing is overrated. Since Boko haram started, only estimated 13,000 people have been killed. Just that it renders many people homeless.

Do you know how many people have been killed by ritualists and cult clashes in Nigeria in the last 10 years?

At least one can easily flee before BH arrives. Ritualists kill you just for entering a bus. Besides I am from the middlebelt and I see the core-north just as terrible as the south when it comes to evils. Just that the south is more progressive even with their evil.

iammo:


I thank God daily for making me a yoruba man, I thank God for my Education, i thank God for my Open mindedness, I thank God for how Liberal and accomodating my culture made me..

See nonsense. Yet with the liberality of your culture you guys still have dozens of human abbattoirs in your forests where you kidnap people and butcher them to sell their body parts?
Dozens to hundreds of people go missing daily in the southwest due to ritualist killings. God forbid.

Guyman02:
Despite all efforts to bring these people closer to the South East and South South due to proximity and change their mentality and join hands to resist the 'Core North' for a better country they prefer to be Arewa and northerners despite all that Fulanis has done to both parties of Jukun and Tiv who were used as foot soldiers by Fulani officers to kill the Biafrans during the civil war.

So, who told you that middlebelt people prefer to be Arewa? Where did you get that consensus from?

Tiv- Jukun conflicts predates the existence of Nigeria, if you don't know.
Tivs are of Bantu origin and just lik their fellow Bantus, they are expansionists by culture. This is what is causing the problem.

Mk93:
North should have their own country. We are too different to be one

And who are the we? The south? Can the south ever unite to fight for anything? Besides, even the north is not one.
This Tiv-Jukun conflict is happening in the middlebelt and even the middlebelt cannot be in one country with the Hausa fulanis.