₦airaland Forum

mtis:
Nice pics msee.Tell Nowe thats how average Kenyan look like..

Metissa & TashaMaria aka TayserMahiri.

Rotf, lmao

mtis:
Many companies in the Kenya fail to identify their controlling shareholders. Take an example you mentioned Nakumatt.You think its owned by Indians but the major shareholder was one black dude called Mwau.The guy pulled his money out an now Nakumatt is going down…
Many black Kenyans own stakes in most of this companies but you guys keep on screaming white an Indians.

Truth be told. The richest ..an I mean the riches folks in Kenya are blacks. They don’t need to show their accounts but am telling you what everyone here knows. There are families who are billionaires in dollars but ya would hear about it

The rich black Kenyans cannot show their faces cos they are all thieves and criminals !

Kenyan Referee Kicked Out Of World Cup After Receiving $600 Bribe.
https://www.nairaland.com/4548405/aden-marwa-kenyan-referee-sacked

nwoke37:
You realize South Africa is a much older economy than Nigeria(i'm not talking about Independence) and is thus more advanced than Nigeria's although Nigeria has now the largest economy.. I mean take a look at sab miller, it was founded in 1895 in South Africa... Where were Nigerian companies at that time... virtually non existent... Plus South Africa has a large influx of foreigners.. this is why virtually all of multinational big South African companies are white owned

I could also use this example for Kenya... Kenya has a more advanced formal retail economy than Nigeria due to the large influx of foreigners in Kenya.. this is why stores like nakumatt are Indian owned

Succinctly put!

rvp20182:
I for once thought we were talking penetration - if you're talking absolute numbers - then clearly our pop is 48M and yours 190m! Again the really pathetic education you've received from Nigeria is shinning through. You cannot make one logical sound argument for crying out loud.

Your population was 48 million by 2016 estimates and this is 2018, yet you are still claiming 48 million?. Are you reducing in population ?

You guys should stop trying to be smarter than yourselves. If you are using Kenya's 2016 population estimate of 48 million people, then use Nigeria's 2016 estimate of 185 million people.

obaaderemi:
It's my siesta. So I will just hammer your head with this little fact for you to see why Nigeria is a giant compared to Little India. 65 m and 110 m gaps over kenya are just too much,my friend. Heck, they are populations of big countries.

http://www.businessinsider.com/smartphone-adoption-on-the-upswing-in-nigeria-2017-4?IR=T

Nigeria's growing mobile internet user base speaks
to its market potential. Nigeria currently has 62.2
million and 52.1 million more internet and mobile
users than Egypt, respectively. It also outpaces
Kenya by 65.3 million and 110.78 million internet
and mobile users, respectively.

Africa is really in trouble.
44% of internet subscribers in Africa are from Nigeria and we are just 15% of the continent's population? That really worrisome.

Can you see the inbuilt spirit of corruption among Little Indians? Bringing shame to Africa at this level of professionalism. It's unfortunate.


Kenyan Referee Kicked Out Of World Cup After Receiving $600 Bribe.

https://www.nairaland.com/4548405/aden-marwa-kenyan-referee-sacked

buceta:
The problem with Kenya, and East Africa, in general, is that they coon hard for Indians and other foreigners. It's shameless and disgusting. Kenya recently made Indians their 44th tribe - meanwhile, Africans are treated like animals in India. East Africans suck at business, but instead of just learning how to run a damn business, they let Asians take over everything. And the Asians will eventually rule them.

The stupidity of east Africans scares me... I hope Nigeria never degrades to those levels.

Thank you.

RZArecta2:
Op, it's Leon Balogun. What is wrong with you ?

Bros I tire o. Leah Balogun ko, Leah Sharibu ni

Nigeria leads rest of Africa in e-commerce opportunity – say the Economist



A new report by the Economic Intelligence Unit (EIU) has rated Nigeria over other African countries in e-commerce opportunity.
According to EIU, Africa’s e-commerce potential is projected to reach $50-$75 billion within the next 5-10 years. It noted that Nigeria’s business environment is more positioned to benefits most from the growth in the e-commerce industry.

The report relied on data generated by the research and analysis division of the Economist Group to arrive at this conclusion.

The retail sector in Africa is changing rapidly, as e-commerce opens up opportunities for both companies and consumers."

"Smartphones are increasingly used by consumers as a gateway tool to the internet, facilitating the growth of online retail in powerful ways,” the EIU stated

To Lead other African countries, Nigeria scored 80.4 out of 100. Thus, ranking the country with the greatest potential within the wider e-commerce market in the continent. Also, the report noted that Jumia, Jiji and Konga are top three e-commerce platforms in Nigeria.

“This is backed up by the plethora of activity in the market, with Nigeria the focal point for a significant amount of e-commerce growth in the region. The country’s three main online retailers— Jumia, Jiji and Konga—serve a mass-market clientele. Jumia celebrated its fifth anniversary in June, has become the first company to surpass US$1bn in market value on the continent in February 2016.”

In Nigeria, consumers’ enthusiasm towards online shopping is on the increase among middle-class family. Similar trend is also noted in many countries across the sub-Saharan Africa.

“Given that e-commerce in sub-Saharan Africa is concentrated among the middle class, which has been squeezed by the economic downturn, online sales have thus also suffered. Nonetheless, mall construction has resumed and their number now stands at around a dozen,” the EIU stated.

E-commerce platforms are fast strategies to attract more of the growing middle class in Africa. Services are being extended to many rural areas, banking on increasing in internet penetration in the Africa.

Growing interest in fashion and grocery stores also have increased sales in the e-commerce industry.

Nigeria Leads Africa in Implementing Sustainable-Finance Reforms- Report


Nigeria has introduced banking reforms to expand sustainable lending, becoming one of 34 emerging markets that are a major force in driving development and fighting climate change, according to the first comprehensive Global Progress Report of the Sustainable Banking Network, an IFC-supported organization of banking regulators and associations.

Those 34 countries account for $42.6 trillion in bank assets—more than 85 percent of total bank assets in emerging markets. Some are wealthier than others, but all of them have made progress in advancing sustainable finance. Eight countries—Bangladesh, Brazil, China, Colombia, Indonesia, Mongolia, Nigeria, and Vietnam—have reached an advanced stage, having implemented large-scale reforms and put in place systems for results measurement.

“This progress is an important step toward achieving the Sustainable Development Goals by 2030,” said Ethiopis Tafara, IFC’s Vice President for Legal, Compliance Risk and Sustainability. “It shows that even the poorest countries can adopt sustainable finance reforms. The Sustainable Banking Network has demonstrated in a short time how much can be achieved when regulators, policymakers, trade associations and development institutions collaborate to advance sustainable finance.”
The report provides practical indicators and tools for countries to apply to their own domestic markets, regardless of their size or stage of development. This is important because it facilitates learning by all members and accelerates the pace of change. It is based on an innovative results-measurement approach that has been agreed by all 34 member countries—a remarkable achievement that is breaking new ground for measuring progress at the global level.

“The intention of the report is to provide practical information to SBN member countries to help them develop public policy. It is a useful guide not only for regulators and the governments, but also for banks, steering them towards what they could and should do from the bottom up,” said Edi Setijawan, Sustainable Finance Director, Indonesia Financial Authority (OJK), and a co-Chair of SBN Measurement Working Group that led the development of the unique methodology behind the report.

The report commended the endorsement of the Nigerian Sustainable Banking Principles by the Central Bank of Nigeria, which ensures a strong level of involvement from 34 national and international banks. The Principles and their accompanying sector specific guidelines provide financial institutions with adequate and detailed elements for building their E&S policies. Nigeria stands out as one of the most advanced SBN members in the area of reporting. Financial institutions are required to report and disclose their E&S policies and performance on a biannual basis. To continue to advance the growth of sustainable finance, the report suggests that the Principles could integrate guidelines and definitions related to green financial flows and provide financial or non-financial incentives.

Eme Essien Lore, IFC Country Manager for Nigeria said, “IFC congratulates Nigeria for proactively establishing and implementing sustainable banking principles by becoming the first African country to become a member of the Sustainable Banking Network. Today, Nigeria stands out as one of the most advanced Sustainable Banking Network members in reporting, requiring financial institutions to disclose their environmental and social performance on a bi-annual basis.

https://economicconfidential.com/business/nigeria-leads-africa-implementing-sustainable-finance-reforms-report/amp/

NairobiWalker:
Flase, I had a Nigerian classmate and he always used to moan how much power we give to our women. Nigeria is largely a misogynist society with lots of materialism. The one thing he loved about Kenyan women was a beauty and less materialism (even though Kenyan women are the most materialistic in East Africa, he said they're nothing close to the average Nigerian woman).............and please, just shut up with your financial power nonsense. Kenya's average income is higher than Nigeria's average income. Sometimes you speak your wishes and not the facts.

Like I told you, the only reason Kenyan men don't date Nigerian women is we don't find them beautiful. Take that to the bank. South African women are way more empowered than Nigerian women yet we have no problem dating them

And when we ask them to show us the beautiful Kenyan women, the best we get is Lupita Nyongo

Only Tanzanian and Rwandese women fascinate me in East Africa.
Even if I was given a Kenyan woman for free, I'd reject it.
Cos this is how the majority of them look like below...

Kenyanna:
Such a simple minded rebuttal, I honestly thought you were smarter than this. I guess you are also overcompensatingly attacking me to prove you aren't me since that is what some were alleging kitambo.
Everyone knows Kenya is more structurally advanced than Nigeria (or I may add Tanzania since some here seem to be obsessed with mentioning that useless bongoland) but this are all shithole countries compared to East Asia and the west. We should be striving to compete with serious nations. Yes kenya compared to Naija is ahead in infrastructure and also in democratic institutions, but Nigeria is also ahead in other aspects like cultural conservatism. So childish to insist that Kenya is 100% better than everyone in everthing. This hyper-chest thumping bullshit is stupid. They won't admit they are wrong and so wont you and thus this will go on for another 87500 pages till a solar flare CME finally shuts down the internet.

Kenya is not ahead of Nigeria in infrastructure. What the heck do you mean by democratic institutions?
The whole world saw how disastrous this last Kenyan election was.

A large chunk of Kenyan territory lives in the stone age and you talk of Kenya having better infrastructures?

Kenya is only good on doing things to impress foreigners while the majority of the population suffers.

rvp20182:
Hehehe. He cracked me there too. There city will have 24 hours of electricity. I guess after 30 yrs of power rationing - Nigerian now imagine having 24hrs is something to dream about . Everyone in Kibera slum has 24hrs of electricity...and that is the Nigeria DREAM.

Yet people in Garissa and the entire north-east of Kenya just got electricity 2 years ago, while at least 50% of Nigeria's sparsely populated north-east has gotten electricity for decades now.

In Nigeria we share one dream, In Kenya some have dreams and others have nightmares.

naijalander:
Yes. But not in a bad way. I suppose they are just fascinated by Nigerian culture. They love the accent, most of their women fancy Nigerian men. Kenyan men are typically intimidated by strong women so they naturally aren't even getting Nigerian women, only few upper class men do, if you meet a Naija lady with a Kenyan husband? The guy is definitely loaded.

So they have this TV comedian alias Obinna (Im still not sure if he's actually Nigerian), his job is just to entertain Kenyans using a nigerian accent. Another of their comedians, Eric Omondi is in the habit of making very racist jokes about Nigerians, that deekhole even featured in an OLX ad playing a Nigerian fraudster in Kenya.


Again these people don't mean us harm but it's annoying when every time you open your mouth, someone giggles.

You can imagine?

And most Nigerians do not even know or care if Kenyans exist!
For the sake of most loud-mouthed and arrogant Kenyans here I hope it remains so forever.

But for the sake of my love for Africa, I would prefer if all Africans interracted better with each other and knew ourselves very well and even make jokes about each other.
French people make jokes of English people, Spanish people make jokes of french people, all Europeans make jokes of German people.
There is no problem if Africans make jokes of each other, though not extremely hateful jokes.

Nigerians are just like the USA of Africa. We are too 'centric' to our own. Save for Ghanaians, I don't think Nigerians know or care about other African countries.

We used to fans of Congolese soukous music in the past, but that has heavily died down, no one cares or know of Congo anymore.

NairobiWalker:
Keep deceiving yourself with the fake Kenyans you hang out with too. Being materialistic and having high standards are two different things. In Kenya we don't spend money on a woman because she demands it, we spend it if she deserves it. There is no way I am going to spend lots of money on a Nigerian woman that looks like a man when I could bag a gorgeous woman elsewhere with the same. Standards are what you are, not what you claim to be. Nigerian women are not beautiful and are loud and mannerless - those are low standards.

It is Nigerian men who have low self esteem because they think they can't get any woman without overspending on her. That's why Kenyan women are always taking advantage of you guys.

Is that the same reason why Kenyan women are obsessed with white men too to the extent that they are willing to be slaves to white men?

Just take it. You guys have woefully failed as men in your responsibilities.
Imagine a beautiful and sexy Kenyan lady as this one below has relegated herself to such status.
You can never find a Nigerian lady looking like that disgracing herself over a white man, cos our men know how to treat a woman.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/evewoman/article/2001251330/extra-mile-kenyan-women-go-to-attract-white-men

https://answersafrica.com/6-reasons-why-kenyan-women-choose-to-marry-white-men-over-kenyan-men.html/amp

naijalander:
That is exactly what Kenyan men do. Nigerian men take care of their women out of duty. It is your duty to care for your family. Your men only now how to drink Tusker and beat their women.

NairobiWalker:
That is Nigerian men lol. You use money to attract women. You meet a woman and the first thing you do is brag about how much money you have and what you'll do for them. Even Kenyan women are using you - look at Vera Sidika - a random college dropout whose booty Nigerian men couldn't resist now she's a millionaire courtesy of low self-esteem of Nigerian men. Trying to argue against Nigerian men using money to attract women is harder than fighting the wind. That's a reputation you've perfectly earned. I wonder, is it due to the low standards of Nigerian women that when you guys meet a foreign woman you're willing to spend all your lives savings to get her or is it just acute low self esteem?

Kenyan men are hating because they are absolutely as useless as the P in Psychology.

Every day and night their women keep protesting of how drunkeness of Changa'a has rendered their men impotent!

https://www.zambianobserver.com/more-women-protest-for-lack-of-men-to-make-them-pregnant/amp/

https://naija.fm/naija-gist/outrage-as-46-kenyan-women-strip-naked/

Why won't their women be fascinated over Nigerian men?

Nigerian men have the culture of spending on a lady whom they are into.
We know how to treat our women well and that's why women all over the continent are after us, unlike you lots who have been rendered impotent because of Chang'aa

NairobiWalker:
This will make Nowenuse cry..................he's obsessed with light skin and wants everyone to think Nigerians are very light skinned. lol.

I thought you clowns claimed to be done with me? Why quoting me here? Stick to your words little Indians!
Shameless people who openly admit that they want to be like whites and look up to white people in their country.

naijalander:
Nowenuse please don't be ignorant, most kenyans are actually fairer in skin unlike the average Nigerian. Most Western Kenyans are dark skinned but not even Sudanese type of dark. Nigerians usually think Sudanese are Kenyans.

Hahaha. I know that Kenyans are on average the same colour as Nigerians, but the Kenyans were the ones who brought this upon themselves, they always accuse all of us of bleaching as if bleaching is not common to the entire African continent.

You can imagine we showed pictures of Agbani Darego and Genevieve and how much they are dark beauties, Kenyans claimed that they are bleaching.. I showed my own picture and they claimed that I was bleaching... Loll

How else do you want the madness of these people to be countered? I just use it to pull their legs, nothing else.

Apart from the South Sudanese whom I know very well and are darker, and some horn africans who are lighter, all other Africans fall under a similar spectrum of skin colour.

Even among Nigerians, the skin colours differ. For instance Igbos, Fulanis, Ibibios etc tend to have more light skinned people than Yorubas, Hausas, Nupes etc on average, but that doesn't mean there are no light and dark skins on the different divides.

fratermathy:
@Nowenuse: You are a thorough intellectual and I've been enjoying your discourse on this thread. It's always a pleasure to read your comments.

In your opinion, do you think that Nigeria would be better if the minority cultures get subsumed under the majorities? What are your thoughts?

Thank you very much for the compliments. I actually consider myself a learner before the presence of people like you.

Personally, I'd say I have heavily mixed feelings about the issue of minorities being subsumed under majorities cos I know that either options come with their pros and cons.

Let me give you an example and you tell me what you think of it. The tribes of Southern/Central Bauchi and Plateau state used to be the same people in the past, we shared a lot of things in common, cultures, origins, languages, trade and many things.
Bauchi people being closer to the core-north accepted Islam and with it came gradual hausanization which was cemented through colonial policies.
Today as I speak with you, the majority of these Bauchi tribes and Hausas can no longer be differentiated anymore. The majority of our people who know very little of the past relationship now sadly see and even address these Bauchi people as Hausas.
The Bauchi people on their path seem very ok and satisfied with their new identity, as of course with it comes better opportunities for them in Nigeria as they can now identify as a majority group. They of course do not face the kind of challenges and fears christians or minorities face in the north. They are welcomed all over the north with open arms and receive the same privilege as every Hausa person all over Nigeria.

It would be easier for a hausanized Bauchi person to be president in Nigeria than a Plateau person. They now most likely have the audience and support of over 60 million northern muslims and even Hausas beyond Nigeria.
Their children would feel prouder to be among and identify with one of the largest and most influential ethnic groups in Africa.
I have muslim cousins for instance and as usual, they too are becoming hausanized. They no longer answer our tribal names and no longer speak our native language except for Hausa. Because of this, one of my cousins applied for a scholarship purely meant for Katsina people alone and she got it and is being paid a good sum of money every year as she schools.
Once you have a pure muslim name and speak hausa fluently, you are accepted in any part of Hausa-fulani land as an equal.
For someone like me, I can never get that opportunity to apply for such a thing outside Plateau state, but my hausanized cousins have access to apply for such in more than 15 states.

I must admit that people from smaller identities have more to gain by identifying with larger identities. However at the same time they also carry the problems of these larger identities.
These hausanized Bauchi people will also carry the problems of Hausa-fulanis like higher poverty levels, illiteracy, almajiri, child marriage etc.

I might say it is such a shame for these people to loose their ancestral language and cultures, but what difference does my shaming them make? Does it really have any effect on them? Does it stop them from breathing?

Overtime, smaller identities have been absorbed to larger ones all over the world through conquest or other means.

Most countries of the world try their possible best to unify their countries either with the language and culture of the majority group or an older regional language that has been the lingua franca of the region before the country.

In India for instance, there are thousands of ethnic groups. It would be too cumbersome for every ethnic group to have a representation at the central government.
What their government did many years back was to select ethnic groups with at least tens of millions of people and grant them a state of their own. Only the north-Eastern Indian minorities got more states due to the complexity and uniqueness of their region.
Every other minority was forced to identify with the majority ethnic group of their new state because only around 12 ethnic groups met the requirement in size to get their own state. As a minority, it is up to your state govt to cater for your needs.
Overtime, these minorities continue to be subsumed.

In spite of this, the central government is now still trying to unite the entire country with one language (Hindi). This has heavily worked in northern India because of how related their ethnic groups and languages are to Hindi, but it met very stiff opposition in the South. However, overall, it is gradually working, cos Hindi language is now penetrating the South.

98% of China identify as ethnic Han chinese, in spite of how unrelated their languages and origins are. Many Han Chinese languages have 0% mutual intelligibility to each other, however they still identify as one people. The central government chose the language of Beijing to be the official language and all others are mandated to learn it. This has led to very large languages like Shanghainese with about 90 million speakers (together with it's cultures) to be on the threat of extinction.

Look at Europe, their founding fathers definitely knew that multi ethnicity would not be possible or healthy for national developments.
Save for Belgium and Switzerland, every other European country has been 'mono-ethnicized'. Even the UK that appears multi-ethnic is overwhelmingly dominated by the English culture and language.

Many European countries like Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Poland, Portugal, etc have minority groups too. However, everyone is expected to acculturate to the dominant group. It has worked over time.
For instance, many Bretons, Provencals and Strasbourg people now identify as ethnic French today, but a few generations back it was not so. They have completely distinct and unrelated languages and cultures to mainstream French.

I am yet to see any large or progressive nation which promotes multi-ethnicity without having one of it's language and culture as the dominant force in the country which all others are expected to conform to, except all the independent ethnic groups would be granted a form of self government/autonomy like in the cases of Belgium & Switzerland.

Tanzania remains one of the most peaceful largely populated multi-ethnic nations in Africa. Ethnic politics, bitterness, rivalry, tribalism and cries of marginalization is non-existent in that country. This was because Julius Nyerere heavily unified the entire country under one Swahili language and culture by banning the use and promotion of native languages.
The majority of Tanzanians have lost their ancestral languages and cultures and now have only Swahili, but the kind of peace and unity enjoyed in Tanzania is one that countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Congo, Ethiopia can only dream of.

All these points and more are the reasons for my mixed feelings about your question.

Although overall, I would say, it would be better for Nigeria to drastically reduce the subject of ethnicity and perhaps implement and promote a single official language and culture to unite the entire country, rather than some ethnic groups subsuming others, but I definitely know that this would be near impossible at this point of our existence.

Forbes just released their list of Africans under 30 years with the most influence in Africa in their respective fields.

Guess what? 27 Nigerians made the list, while Kenya tied with Zimbabwe, Ghana, Uganda and Zambia with 4 people each.

Can you see the clowns who want to compare themselves with Nigerians?
Kudos to South Africa for topping the list (although with the help of the whites & Indians)

How come Little Indians (Kenyans) could not even have up to 1/4 of Nigeria?

mrkunlex:
Popular Nigerian singers Davido, Wizkid have made the list of the 2018 Forbes Africa 30 under 30 individuals that are making waves across in their industries across the continent.
The list is divided into three; Creative, Technology and Business.
Other celebrities across Africa that made the list are Sarkodie, Nasty C, Cassper Nyovest, Falz, Yemi Alade, Beverly Naya, Sonia Irabor and so on.

See full list below:

Business
Yannick Nzonde, 29, DRC
Co-founder ATI Groupe
Leroy Mwasaru, 20, Kenya
Founder, Greenpact
Ladipo Lawani, 29, Nigeria
Founder, L&L Foods
Emmanuel Ademola Ayilara, 29, Nigeria
Founder, LanaWey Investment Limited
Mwiya Musokotwane, 28, Zambia
Founder, Thebe Investment Management
Nomvula Mhambi, 29, Zimbabwe
Founder, Disruptive Innovation
Abubakar Sadiq Mohammed Falalu, 28, Nigeria
Founder, FalGates
Roger Boniface, 29, South Africa
Founder, EDISIM
Gilbert Eugene Peters, 29, Zimbabwe
Founder, Spidex Media
Sihle Ndlela, 28, South Africa
Co-founder, Majozi Bros Construction
Vera Shaba, 29, South Africa
Founder, Shaba and Rampling; Green Building
Solutions
Thomas Duncan, 28, Namiba
Owner, Anticor
Wesley Beneke, 29, South Africa
Founder, WCB Construction
Anita Adetola Adetoye, 26, Nigeria
Founder, Anita Brows Beauty
Akinwande Durojaye, 28, Nigeria
Founder, JustBrandIt; FixMyRide. Co-founder, FueledUp;
LashBells
Samuelle Dimairho, 27, Zimbabwe
Co-founder, Chengetedzai Depository Company
Joey Friedman, 26, South Africa
Founder, LA Group of Companies
Zuko Tisani, 25, South Africa
Founder, Legazy Technology Conferencing
Gisela van Houcke, 27, DRC
Founder, Zuri Luxury Hair&Beauty
Bidemi Zakariyau, 28, Nigeria
Founder, LSF|PR
Zareef Minty, 24, South Africa
Founder, ZRF Holdings
Fred Apaloo, 28, Ghana
Founder, Villa Grace
Kene Rapu, 28, Nigeria
Founder, Kene Rapu
Jack Mthembu, 27, South Africa
Founder, First One Adventures
Reabetswe Ngwane, 25, South Africa
Co-founder, KreamFields
Anelisa Mntuyedwa, 28, South Africa
Founder, Gilbert Civils
Gozie Coker, 29, Nigeria
Founder, Coker Creative
Alexander Knieps, 27, South Africa
Founder, Printulu
Adam Amoussou, 27, Benin
Founder, Amosconsult Group
Nataliey Bitature, 28, Uganda
Co-founder, Musana Carts
Technology
Rivo Mhiari, 23, South Africa
Founder, Rikatec
Olaoluwa Samuel-Biyi, 27, Nigeria
Co-founder, SureGifts. Director, SureRemit
Isaya Yunge, 28, Tanzania
Founder, SomaApps Technologies Company Limited
Mahmood Oyewo, 26, Nigeria
Co-founder, RubiQube
Kevin Lubega, 28, Uganda
Founder, EzeeMoney
Berno Potgieter & Thatoyaona Marumo, 28, South
Africa
Founders, Domestly
Leonida Mutuku, 29, Kenya
Founder, Intelipro
Chris Kwekowe, 25, & Emerald Kwekowe, 21, Nigeria
Founders, Slatecube
Phiwa Nkambule, 26, Swaziland
Co-founder, Riovic
Sunkanmi Ola, 22, Nigeria
Founder, Syracuse Digital
Perseus Mlambo, 29, Zambia
Founder, Zazu Africa Limited
Kola Olajide, 26, Nigeria
Co-founder, Bridge Labs
Nneile Nkholise, 29, South Africa
Founder, iMed Tech
Bamal Namata, 26, Cameroon
Founder, Maibeta
Riaz Moola, 26, South Africa
Founder, HyperionDev
Leonard Stiegeler, 29, Nigeria.
Co-founder, Zanda, Jumia & Director Ringer Africa AG.
Kofi Genfi & Nii Osae Osae Dade, 24, Ghana.
Founders, CYST Company Limited.
Juan Pienaar, 27, South Africa.
Founder, Apex Media.
Timothy Adeleye, 29, Nigeria.
Founder, Optiweb Communications.
Maya Horgan Famodu, 27, Nigeria.
Founder, Ingressive.
Abraham Omani Quaye, 28, Ghana.
Founder, Farmart.
Melvyn Lubega, 28, South Africa.
Founder, GO1.
Huston Malande, 28, Kenya.
Founder, Skyline Design.
Cukia Kimani, 26 & Ben Myres, 25, South Africa.
Founders, Nyamakop.
Ink Eze, 28, Nigeria. (YAY!! BN Alum!)
Founder, AsoEbiBella.
June Syowia, 23, Kenya.
Founder, Beiless Group.
Obinna Okwodu, 27, Nigeria.
Founder, Fibre.
Abdellah Mallek, 28, Algeria.
Co-founder, Sylabs.
Yasmine El Baggari, 25, Morocco.
Founder, Voyaj.
Simba Mubvuma, 26, Zimbabwe.
Co-founder, Lexware Inc.
Creatives
Thuso Mbedu, 26, South Africa.
Actress.
Maria Borges, 25, Angola.
Supermodel.
Herieth Paul, 22, Tanzania.
Supermodel.
Eddy Kamuanga Illunga, 26, DRC.
Painter.
Cassper Nyovest, 27, South Africa.
Rapper & Entrepreneur.
Stacey Gillian Abe, 27, Uganda.
Multidisciplinary Contemporary Artist.
Yemi Alade, 29, Nigeria.
Singer & Songwriter.
Falz, 27, Nigeria.
Rapper & Actor.
Orapeleng Moodutle, 29, South Africa.
Fashion Designer.
Nomzamo Mbatha, 27, South Africa.
Actress.
Kwesta, 29, South Africa.
Rapper & Entrepreneur.
Davido, 25, Nigeria.
Singer & Songwriter.
Safia Elhillo, 27, Sudan.
Author & Poet.
Joyce Jacob, 28, Nigeria.
Founder: Joyce Jacob Beauty.
Shekhinah, 23, South Africa.
Singer & Songwriter.
Adebayo Oke-Lawal, 28, Nigeria.
Fashion Designer. Founder: Orange Culture.
Wizkid, 27, Nigeria.
Singer & Songwriter.
Koleka Putuma, 25, South Africa.
Poet & Author.
Nasty C, 21, South Africa.
Rapper & Producer.
Beverly Naya, 29, Nigeria.
Actress & Entrepreneur.
Simphiwe, 27, South Africa.
Visual Artist.
Rina Chunga-Kutama, 29, South Africa.
Fashion Designer.
Kemiyondo Coutinho, 28, Uganda.
Playwright, Actress, Filmmaker & Entrepreneur.
Sarkodie, 29, Ghana.
Rapper & Entrepreneur.
Mapeseka Koetie-Nyokong, 29, South Africa.
Actress & Entrepreneur.
Sonia Irabor, 28, Nigeria.
Writer, Filmmaker & Actress.
Tony Gum, 22, South Africa.
Visual Artist.
ANATII, 25, South Africa.
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mtis:
Nowe I thought you have changed but ya the same silly goat . You want us to subscribe to your voodoo rituals so that we look African. Dude its 208 for Pete’s sake. A why are you so obsessed with this 'Blanket and Tea parties’? If Kenyans got money to spend what’s the punk.
By the way the Dstv thingy is old stuff (We stream ). An about watching the Big Brother Nigeria that’s a joke ma broda.

Below are some of naijas finest (darkies)

Yeah, you little Indians insist on constantly displaying stupidity non-stop, what do you expect us to do?

You Kenyans don't subscribe to voodoo rituals but you still have many savages who live in the forests nakedd and still drink blood.

Can't you see that some of those Nigerian darkies look like whites (whom you kenyans worship) compared to these stone age savage animal blood-drinking Kenyans?

selemempe:
yea...i see wat u mean. Washinton dc is another example. But truth is a developed ibadan, ph and kaduna is better for nigeria than the current arrangement

Yes I agree with you, it would have been better for our livelihoods and for the sake of an even development.

However do you know that much of the influence Nigeria has today in Africa like our entertainment and media industries might have not existed?
We would have had less millionaires and billionaires perhaps cos some regions would have boycotted the products of other regions. We would hardly have a single market.

Take Nairaland for instance, someone like me might hardly have an interest here cos I would have preferred a Hausa language forum with more northerners. This forum might be more yoruba since it is owned by a Yoruba person.
Topics of yoruba celebrities or western regional govt which will dominate here would be of no interest to northerners and easterners hence less traffic and less money for Seun.

The importance of a large single homogenous market can never be underestimated. This is what America enjoys and the reason it somewhat has a greater influence over the world.

bibe:
The issue of lingua franca is more complicated than that. For example the French you speak today and even the French speak was from a particular region in France same with the English speakers of today (you can do a little research on this).

Sometimes it's done intentionally for cohesion purposes. For example since there were too many Igbo dialects, a commission was set up to come up with a central Igbo language for cohesion reasons. it's the igbo you will largely hear people speak today.

As for gradual and unintentional subsuming that could be possible. The point you raised about Kano dialect subsuming other hausa dialects (and even other hausa people) also happened in the West (#lagos). A lot of people today also claim Lagos ancestory. It's a normal immigration consequence and has been happening since the beginning of time. However, it's more likely to happen to people of similar stock.

For example the igbo will always leave for their Homeland at any possible opportunity and have not lost their language on account of being in Lagos or in Abuja. It's actually the fault of parents most times when the contrary obtains. But nonetheless, every nation most have a capital and with it immigration and other consequent outcome as you have pointed out.

People will always continue to migrate for economic reasons but it doesn't necessarily mean they become subsumed. Igbos are in the North, East, West and South but they aren't subsumed yet and may never be, same with the hausa in the West or East or the Yoruba in the North, East or SS. The Jews too never lost their identity, same with the native Americans etc.

Yes you are correct, but using Igbos (a very large tribe) as a case study here is not fair.
Igbos cannot be easily influenced due to their large size.
And Igbos migrate to different areas and even outside the country.

I am talking about minority groups with most of their population migrating towards a particular majority area over a long period of time.

Take the Nupes for instance. Nupe culture is far more related to Yoruba culture than Hausa, but over the years due to so much migration to Hausa land and mixing, their culture is becoming more Hausanized. So many of them can now speak Hausa even in their homelands, but in the past it was not so.
For Nupes and Baribas in Kwara, their shift is more or less towards yoruba because they have been looking up to Ilorin for a long time.

Let me also use Idomas as an example.
Idomas originally are neighbors to Igbos and share far more in common with Igbos in all ramifications than lets say a Plateau person, but through my years in Warri (a southern city) I find more Idomas who can speak Hausa
than those who cannot. I haven't found one who can speak Igbo. Why?
For a longtime, the destiny of Idomas were tied to Hausa speakers, from Kaduna their regional capital to Jos their state capital and these made many of them migrate to those cities in droves.

These hausa speaking Idomas see me and my family for instance as more of their kit and kin here in Warri than they see Igbos, in spite of the fact that some of their hometowns are just a stone throw from Enugu state.
Now, tell me, If Benue state had been under the Eastern region and the eastern region existed till now and the majority of them migrated to Enugu instead, would this have been the case?

This Idoma shift to the north has heavily reduced since the creation of Abuja and Makurdi also started offering them more opportunities as it became bigger. Otherwise, Imagine if Benue-Plateau state or northern region had continued, by now we would have had like half of the entire Idoma population in Jos or Kaduna (cos Idomas love migration a lot) and Idomas who share bloodlines with Igbos, a large chunk or the majority of them would now be speaking hausa and would start seeing a Plateau man as their kin compared to an Igbo man.

If you cannot get my point with this, then I think I have to give up explaining anything else.

The Jews you are talking about, did they not loose their language over time? Jews managed to resurrect their language and much of their cultures due to their powerful history and how much they documented it, not because they retained all of it during their exile.

Can't you see the striking differences between the Ashkenazic Jews and the Sephardic Jews? The Israel of today is more European by outlook and lifestyle. Save for the Sephardic jews and Arabs in Israel, how middle-eastern do these Ashkenazic jews look to you?

The sephardic jews are more or less a better representation of what the original jews were because they never left the middle-east. But because the Ashkenazic jews dominate Israel, western elements are stronger in Israel. Hence, Israel of today clearly has a more European outlook than a middle-eastern one.

selemempe:
About the bolded, I beg to differ. I believe lagos as fct would have been a more uniting force than it is today and than abuja will ever be.
Lagos was planned by the british while abuja was planned by fulani. Lagos as fct would not be the yoruba state that yorubas and tinubu are trying to force it to be and it would not have that islamic look that abuja has.

It would have been the cultural epi-center of africa...a role adis ababa is currently playing

No, I don't think so.

During the regional govt, cities like Ibadan, PH & Kaduna were making great strides and development as much or almost as much as Lagos was.
I haven't really heard of any northerner or middlebelter who was interested to move to Lagos as at that time. Kaduna was the perfect migration destination followed by Kano.

Look at India, how well has Delhi united Indians?

State capitals like Mumbai are far more powerful than Delhi. Others like Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad and Kolkata can even challenge Delhi too and are far more cosmopolitan than Delhi.

If the states or regions are large in size and are powerful by controlling their own rescources, the state capitals will definitely outcompete the Federal capital.

obaaderemi:
That $400-500 billion must hurt you Little Indians badly to keep bringing it up. Okay another part of your own report shows clearly that Zimbabwe has more global chain hotels than Algeria, a more advanced economy than either Kenya or Zimbabwe. Algeria's economy is $170 bn while Zimbabwe's is a mere $16 bn, that's less than 10% of Algeria's. How come little Zimbabwe has more than bigger more advanced and more populous Algeria? Population of Algeria is 40 m and Zimbabwe is 16 m. Algeria's GDP is fake too must be your explanation. This things are neither about gdp nor population.Next time read your links well before posting. You are no different from your silly brothers who keep bringing stuffs which always blow back onto their ugly faces.

Keep on teaching these little Indians.

They really do not know anything on analogies. These are the people who claim to have a better educational system than Nigeria.
They just keep on disgracing themselves all in a bid to prove nothing.

That's how they said that because Kenyans go to malls more than Nigerians that means Kenya has a larger middleclass than Nigeria.

I watched a documentary today on wildlife in Kenya and the kind of poverty I saw among some Kenyan rural communities (the Samburus) of northern Kenya is unimaginable.
At least I am from northern Nigeria and have seen the worst kind of rural Nigerian poverty, but it does not measure up to that of these rural Kenyans.
Some of their tribes in Kenya still live in the stone age without any form or influence of modern life. It's shocking!

BabaRamota1980:
Okay. So if many attempts to subjugate them before colonial did not succeed, what stops them now from reliving history and snatching their independence?

Sometimes we will not have academic answers to solve mundane challenges, pure native sense and brute force has its purpose in the evolution of mankind. The aggression of slaughter will only be stopped by a greater slaughter, nothing less.

I don't understand what you mean by them snatching their independence. Are they under colonization?

They only happen to be under a state and a country politically dominated by Hausas which does not work to their favour.

BabaRamota1980:
West Africa was an estate of Imperial powers who drew tributes from lesser authorities. Who did Gwari paid tribute to before Kaduna was created?

Gbagyis and most southern Kadunas just like Plateaus paid tributes to no one. They were never under anyone.

Hausas and fulanis tried to conquer the tribes but they failed.

Nwadiuto247:
Even among the minorities they still play the majority -minority game. In Rivers state, Ikwere plays the majority part. In South SOuth as a region, Ijaw plays the majority part. This trickles down to our villages so your point does not hold water. There will always be majority-minority game. Tell yourself this bitter truth and move on. Stop lying to yourself pls/

This is the very sad truth!

Take for instance, we Benue-Plateau people were very happy when we got our own state as minorities free from Hausa in 1967.
But immediately we Plateau people started dominating the state and Benue people cried of marginalization.

Benue people got their own state 9 years later and the Tivs and Idomas dominated the Igalas who were brought from WestCentral state.
Igalas left Benue to Kogi state in 1992 and Tivs started feasting on the Idomas.... Idomas have been crying of marginalization since then.
Perhaps when the Idomas get their own Apa state, Igedes and Agatus will also cry of marginalization from the greater Idoma tribe. ... In fact, they are already crying, cos only Idomas produce the senator of Benue south.
It's just pathetic.

BabaRamota1980:
Some of the discussions you guys are having, though your inputs clearly are intellectual, but its on the surface and failed to go deep into history of the peoples involved and the geo-political markers that existed pre colonial period. Nigeria is a post colonial state.

For instance you look at a place like Kaduna. Kaduna state is Gwariland, not Hausaland. The state itself, like Enugu are creations of Colonialists.

What was Kaduna before? What kingdom was ruler over the Gwaris? Did they have their kings or were they ruled by Chiefdoms that pay tributes to a superior king? Its all significant to understand the pre-Nigeria relationship between different nations.

No please, the entire Kaduna state is not Gwari land. If you had said Kaduna city is gwari land, you would have been correct.
Unfortunately Hausas have stolen a large chunk of Kaduna city from the Gwaris.

Northern Kaduna (Zaria or Zazzau) has always been an ancient Hausa kingdom and is purely hausa land.

Gbagyi (Gwari) people dominated central Kaduna state along with some other tribes, while kaduna south belongs to the Atyaps, Bajju, Gong, Agworok, Jaba, Ninkyob and many others

bibe:
You made some valid points but that wasn't exactly so. Historically, the Igbo and most other ethnicities in the Eastern region shared a lot in common. Eg killing of twins, the ekpe cult (Aro Confederacy+cross riverians) etc. There's always been mutual respect generally.

Enugu was chosen as capital just same way Abuja was chosen as capital and Lagos before it. Enugu was Igbo through and through so no issues of minorities being subsumed there. English was the ligua franca as obtains in Abuja and Lagos (while it was the capital). Knowledge of the language of the natives doesn't mean being subsumed but helps with communicating with the locals.

Like I said before the provincial system was adopted to ensure representation and even spread development most of which are still visible in the various states of today. Enugu and Port Harcourt experienced more rapid development due to coal (which held same value as oil of today) the rail from enugu to ph as well as the ph port and city came to be as a result of coal.

Revenue was mostly shared according to what you contributed. Abia, Anambra and present day Akwa ibom got more of the largesse on account of Palm oil revenue (you can research the economy of southern Nigeria before independence) so sometimes I don't really understand the cries about marginalisation. It's akin to crying that present day Rivers, Akwa ibom and bayelsa are marginalising the South East states on account of their crude oil revenue (13% derivation).

If you do a proper research on the economy of the Eastern region you'll understand that the issue of marginalisation is unfounded however you can already see from the analysis above that the economy was largely tilted to the igbos as at then and their numbers ultimately meant they'll dominate politically (numbers and money).

In conclusion, the system that obtained in the Eastern region was radically different to that of the northern region where there was clearly an agenda thus the issue of igbonisation is not plausible.

You are correct. The east never had an agenda of subsuming the minorities like the north did. However, ethnic absorption does not always happen intentionally. It could also happen unintentionally.

Learning the language of the locals of a city of course in not an issue.
However, when more and more minorities who migrate to the city of the majority for the sake of better opportunities due to that city being a capital city or economic centre of that region which of course would be dominated by the majority, then it becomes kind of unfair, because indirect or unconscious cultural absorption would take place.

For instance, why did Kano hausa dialect become the official hausa dialect and lingua franca dialect of the north? Why not Sokoto dialect? Simple, because Kano was the largest city and economic centre of Hausa land and the north.
Today, you see all the Hausas and even non hausa in Kano claiming to be from Kano state just cos they were born there or have lived there many years, but many of them were not from Kano originally. Some of these people leave Kano back to their places of origin and take back Kano culture and influence to their places of origin and gradual Hausanization/Kanonization takes place in these smaller towns and communities.

This would have still been the likely outcome in the old eastern region. Gradual and non conscious Igbonization would have still taken place.

selemempe:
u know something bro....tho am Igbo and may speak from an angle of the 'majority tribes' the truth is the 3 region system left by the british....infact the entire system left by the british is (still is) the best system for Nigeria to develope.

U have to understand that these guys have done it b4. They were the europeans who moved to the americas and turned canada, u.s, mexico, brazil and argentina into the wonderful nations they are today. In u.s for instance, there were local tribes...but they were forced to become englishmen. Even tho europe was multilingual, the u.s adopted only english as everybody's mothertongue. That means french and german ppl moving to u.s must learn english.

Take india too as example...most speak hindi today. However most did not speak hindi 500 years ago...but today there is more cohesion in india, in america etc as a result of the one language/culture policy.

Many Nigerians who would leave the shore of nigeria to say america will 4get everything about their nigerian language and culture in just 50 years and bcom full americans. Is adopting the american language and culture better for say a tiv man than adopting the hausa language and culture while in nigeria?

We would have had just 3 nations within nigeria if the british system was not disrupted. Today we have maybe 10 nations...all thinking in different directions.

Believe me..had the coup of 66 not occured and had gowon not created those first 12 states, this is how i belive nigeria would have been;

1. PH in eastern region will be as developed as lagos.
2. Lagos would not be over crowded and it would still be fct.
3. Ibadan will be much more developed than it is today
4. Benin city would be much more developed and populated than it is today
5. Kaduna will look the way abuja looks now
6. Kano will be much more developed than it is today
7. There would be no abuja.
8. Most ppl in north would speak hausa, most in east will speak igbo, and most in midwest will speak either benin or igbo
9. Minority ppl would be bilingual.
10. Boko haram, heardesmen crisis and nd militancy would not arise

Yes you are correct.
Nigeria would have been more uniform if we had continued with the original 3 regions. However this uniformity would have been at the expense of the complete sacrifice of the identity of we the minorities.

Igbonization and Yorubanization of the Southern minorities would have easily worked, but complete hausanization of northern minorities would never have worked cos Hausa culture has been syncretized with islam and many northern minorities are christians.
Religious crisis would have never let the region unite and sooner or later it would have gone in flames.

I would have loved a more uniform Nigeria divided into three. However, the 3 regions would have been so distinct and different. Regional affiliations would have far superceded the national ones. We would have hardly done anything together cos for instance, our entertainment industries for instance, would have been different which would largely reduce their influences and market.

As a minority I think I prefer the first 12 states had remained and had full autonomy.


About India, most Indians in the cities speak Hindi in all the states except Tamil Nadu, but most Indians do not speak Hindi overall. Most Indians speak their state official languages like Bengali, Punjabi, Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil, Marathi, Odisha, etc
However I understand your point. Hindi as the national language and a co-official language of India has heavily promoted inter-ethnic communication.

selemempe:
This post made me laugh. And this is coming from a northerner o. When we tell our western neighbours that our fates are intertwined once we go up north, they will be doubting it. An hausaman respects an Igboman as the real opposition to Hausa/fulani hegemony. Therefore, once u cant clearly identify urself to an hausaman during crisis, u are an Igboman. Those corps members killed in 2011 election are mostly yorubas....but i can swear that their killers thought they were Igbos. To hausa illiterates, there are only two tribes in the south of nigeria - yoruba muslims and Inyamari (Igbos)

Exactly.
Only yoruba muslims can easily be distinguished as non-Igbos in some parts of the core-north.

BabaRamota1980:
Dont get carried away in the points you are making.

It is absolute bunkum to say Northerners are unable to differentiate Yoruba from the rest of Southerners.

The point you made about Igbo, Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw being banded together is accurate. Even here in West we have difficulty differentiating and everyone East of Yorubaland is banded together as Isobo or Igbo. Even the Itshekiris who speak our language are sometimes mistaken as Isobo.

Why?

The answer is in culture. Until very recently Yorubas are the only ones in South that wear buba, sokoto and agbada and our hat is different from anyone else's. All non agbada wearing people in South are grouped as Isobo or Igbo. For women,Yorubas women are the only ones that do not wear two piece wrapper in South and they drape ipele on shoulder and gele on head. No other women group in South tied gele or draped ipele on shoulder or one wrapper on the waist. This is why Itshekiri is often mistaken as Isobo.

If Northerners find it hard to differentiate Yoruba it would only be a new thing and brought about byvthe Yoruba desire to dress in foreign attires not recognised for the Yoruba culture. All over Africa, the Yoruba dress, for men and women, is unique and identifiable.

In places like Kaduna and Kano cities though, due to how open these places are, the Hausas there know the difference between yorubas, Nupes, Igala, Idoma, Ebira, Southern Kadunas and other northern christians, but in other smaller cities and towns of the core-north, every christian is an Igbo regardless of your tribe, except you are a native maguzawa hausa christian or from any other northern tribe who speaks hausa fluently.


Igbos are everywhere in the north. In every single town and even villages, so all northerners know them very well. However, yorubas are not everywhere in the core-north and they are not known in some places. I know what I am telling you.
Only yoruba muslims can never be mistaken for Igbos anywhere cos they know all Igbos are christians.

However as you said, yorubas who dress in very traditional clothes might not easily be mistaken for Igbos. But except for elderly yoruba people, most young yoruba christians dress in more western clothes.