₦airaland Forum

Jay254:
When China overtook Japan as the biggest economy in Asia, there is so much change you can see in china.

When America overtook Europe as the world superpower there was so much you could see and feel.

When S.Korea, Singapore,Taiwan moved from third world to developed Nations there was so much change you could see.


When Nigeria overtook S.Africa as the biggest economy only the figures changed... Poor Nigeria

Jay254:
Just google the percentage of slum area in Nairobi, its 5% of the total land mass unlike Lagos where 5% is where beauty exists.

Kenya has it's urgly side also we have never dispute that.

NairobiWalker:
Okay bruh. You win. Lets concentrate on people then. Here are Nigerians. The supposedly light skinned beauties no-ones-anus aka nowenuse keeps talking about.
https://pix.avaxnews.com/avaxnews/ba/66/000466ba_medium.jpeg
https://www.ngrguardiannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Crowded-Oshodi-Market-in-008.jpg
https://commonwealthjournalists.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Crowds-in-a-street-in-Zaria-Nigeria.-Photographer-Copyright-Michael-N.-de-la-Hay-%C2%A9-Commonwealth-Secretariat-810x608.jpeg

TayserMahiri:
How did they destroy it? Any pics?

rvp20182:
This data is quoting Nigeria cooked GDP - if you guys cannot even hold credible census - how can you come up with credible national accounts -gdp.

kikuyu1:
Everyone but you understands this list was made off your faked stats! Your GDP isn't half a trillion dollars anymore than I'm the king of Swaziland!?

obaaderemi:
Don't believe him. This is Naivasha below. A town of just 120,000 with several slums.

rvp20182:
This data is quoting Nigeria cooked GDP - if you guys cannot even hold credible census - how can you come up with credible national accounts -gdp.

NairobiWalker:
In good faith I don't mean to demean you but I'd rather have a decent town than a slum of a city. Your definition of city is only based on population but never quality. See for instance, Naivasha is a small town of about 180,000 people while Abeokuta is a city of over 1 million people. But look at Naivasha and compare it with Abeokuta.

Naivasha
https://www.firstavenueproperties.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/1477467896612-1494709121.jpg
https://bartamaha.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/nbi.jpg

Now look at Abeokuta
https://cdn.britannica.com/700x450/77/125077-004-7683C330.jpg
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Free advice, don't just base your arguments on population - Nigeria is 4 times more populous than Kenya. Look at quality.

rvp20182:
Had to confirm again those pictures - yeap - that is what I am talking about slum cities. Nigeria in 70-80s OIL BOOM moved to towns in droves [they had for a decade the world fastest urbanization] in search for elusive OYEL money- and yet there was no corresponding infrastructure or housing development - and what you got are huge slum metropolis - and collapsed rural economy (agriculture) - I tell you the amount of fallow land you'll find in Nigeria is staggering. Everybody and their grandmother basically abandoned the villages in 80s for unplanned urban centers --- except maybe for the nomadic north (hausa-fulani-kanuri) - you now have mega metropolis of slums - without electricity or water or sewage or any garbage collection -- everyone is just waiting for oil money to come from Abuja and if not - trying to escape Nigeria.

rvp20182:
For Nigeria size of economy - allegedly - the amount of machinery+equipment+plant (Or maybe BUHARI-DANGOTE is manufacturing them now - they would need to import annually would be around 100B dollars - but right now they are struggling to import wheat+rice from the little that Shell-BP gives them (10-15$B) and whatever else the diaspora send(10-15$B). That is all there is in Nigeria economy - it's KAPUT. Remove Oil and remove diaspora remittance - and the thing is dead as dodo.That is why Nigerians are risking everything to sail to Europe and even poor country like Kenya is heaven to them.

The next export they have is coca nuts - which is worth 10% of what Ghana & Ivory coast do - I think slightly about 300M dollars Then rubber;maybe some shrimps and I guess that is about it

NairobiWalker:
Thankfully when somebody lands in Nairobi or Mombasa and wants to see what Kenyan slums look like, they have to request to be taken to Kibera. Meanwhile in Nigeria such things are non existent.............you land and you see a slum. You don't have to request to be taken anywhere.

Did you know that Lamu is older than both Kano and Ibadan? Did you know that some of these beautiful Lamu buildings are older than those Ibadan and Kano eyesores?
https://www.peponi-lamu.com/media/cache/9c/af/9caf2235c5e2a82581f83597116c1af1.jpg
https://museums.intrepidprojects.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lamu.jpg

rvp20182:
Nigeria is 190M strong; Kenya is merely 48M; so you don't expect Kenya to have the same number of cities as Nigeria. Obviously you'd need to compare Nigeria with entire East Africa (Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda,TZ and Kenya) - total pop should roughly be equal to Nigeria or less - and you'll know East Africa has way more and bigger cities than Nigeria.

As far as Kenya goes - we have cities & towns - that though smaller - are more modern & liveable. You got mega slums. If Nigeria was half decent - you'd be talking of about 30 cities - real cities!

nwoke37:
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-40-22.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-39-55.png?w=980[/img]

It runs in the night too

[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-35-42.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-36-23.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-36-56.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-38-18.png?w=980[/img]

Do you doubt the cable cars too?

TayserMahiri:
Are you kiddin? Makoko? Even gallivant agreed that while we are slowly eliminating Kibera, you will need an intercontinental ballistic missile to get rid of Makoko.

obaaderemi:
Why are you calling the OP,tonyebarcanister stupid after all he has done for you and your fellow Little Indians? He put the title of his thread in your favour and you are still angry all because your country has been exposed brutally here. You are a small country yet you continue to struggle monumentally against a country of over 180m people in terms of development stats. Everything you pride yourselves on has been exposed as been influenced by foreigners including Nigerians. Your biggest ICT company(barring Safaricom) Cellulant was even cofounded by a Nigerian. And I hear your biggest bank started as a branch of an Indian bank. It's so pathetic that with all your bragging here,everything meaningful in Kenya has to bear the touch of foreigners. You should begin to change that. You need to buckle up.

254tobby:
First,that stupid question go and ask your forefathers.

And whatever you yap madly about them,they are still categorised to be urban areas,yes they're not cities but are major towns which are close enough to be cities because they're also growing rapidly as well.

Urban places ain't only measured with its population weight but also infrastructure within,kisii town is a case example of a town in western Kenya,its massively growing with the hands of interested Kenyan investors and also on the ground of infrastructure supported by its governor,it hasn't reach to the level of being called a city but a MAJOR TOWN,and its population is less than 1million.Before 2025,kisii town will be a city if it maintain its tempo.

So population is a limiting factor in some Kenyan towns that's why they haven't graduated to be called a city unlike your Nigeria where people keep on conjugating to alarm up your population to fill up your slum cities as RVP20182 usually puts it.

Nothing serious to be argued there since population is a natural factor,unless you're foolishly blinded.

Natural01:
Bull shit, you misstated Surulere is crappy, obvious you don't know facts

SURULERE

NairobiWalker:
Now that you've agreed Surulere is crappy and not worthy of comparison with Langata, let me show you where low class Kenyans live.
Umoja, Nairobi
https://cdn-travel.jumia.com/web_hotel_detail_gallery/oloiboni-hotel-28151-67ed19a6abab2b450165fc5a444400a41aadad9e.jpeg
[img]https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/465760.jpg?itok=u-RsZWZn[/img]
https://static-tuko.akamaized.net/0fgjhs6g9r3uvivrg.676b0e20.png
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5594/14886079015_02444eeb4e_b.jpg

That's our low class up there.

NairobiWalker:
2. If you meant typical low class and showed us your typical middle class then you're a liar. You wanted to paint a glories picture of your low class but we caught you.

3. People who are not stupid like you can accurately guess your intentions based on what you say.

NairobiWalker:
1. 80% of Lagos is a slum. You must be out of your mind to think only Makoko is a slum in Lagos. This for instance is not Makoko, it is Ajegunle.
https://bailiffafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dustbin_estate_06.jpg
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NairobiWalker:
Surulere is crappy. You can't compare it with Langata.

NairobiWalker:
Kibera is notpart of Lang'ata lol. As you can see from your wikipidea source, Lang'ata BORDERS Kibera. It is neither part of Kibera nor is Kibera part of Lang'ata. It once was but no longer. Kibera is part of Kibra Constituency. Meanwhile a majority of your Surulere residents live in slums such as Ojuelegba.

NairobiWalker:
How man times should I show you? lol.



BTW, Check out your video more carefully - it doesn't include those slums in Surulere because your aim was to convince us your poor people live in those nice houses. The slums only came in after you realized I am exposing you.

NairobiWalker:
The point was, you were boasting that Surulere, which you initially claimed to be a low income area, has more decent housing than Nairobi's low income areas. We showed you Lang'ata whose rent is less than Surulere yet looks better than Surulere by far.

NairobiWalker:
The last pic is a slum lol.

Karen is high income.

The point was, you were boasting that Surulere, which you initially claimed to be a low income area, has more decent housing than Nairobi's low income areas. We showed you Lang'ata whose rent is less than Surulere yet looks better than Surulere by far. You came to your senses and argued that Surulere is a combination of low, high and middle income neighborhoods. I argued that then your argument doesn't hold water since your main argument was to boast how decent your low income earners live considering their's nothing worth boasting about in Surulere since it's a tiny area and majority of its housing is crap. You keep shifting goals to fit your bruised ego lol. Are you so proud of having tiny neighborhoods of mixed decent housing and slums? I have even show you photos of lower earners in Nairobi (Tena, Umoja, Kariobangi etc) but you're just all over yapping.

NairobiWalker:
The last pic is a slum lol.

Karen is high income.

rvp2018:
30% 0f Nairobi are proper middle class earning 10k dollars per annum..that is whopping 1.5m Nairobian which explain why outside Joburg Nairobi leads in modern malls in SSA.And Nairobi has 10k dollar millionaires..Lagos has 15k usd millionaire mostly oil barons..Hass track rent price in Nairobi and typical Nigerian have to cramp 15 of themselves to afford in low middle class Nairobi.

NairobiWalker:
You do realize you're comparing photos of highways with little to no pedestrian activity in Uyo with photos of streets in a busy business district in Nairobi do you?

PS...........The Upperhill roads you're posting are still under construction.

NairobiWalker:


Now I've seen your problem. You want to post us middle income houses while we post you photos of slums so that you can massage your ego. Lol.

Dude, the photos I posted are of houses cheaper than what you posted. You're making no sense at all. Just accept you've been beaten.

254tobby:
Thika-Onitsha

Kiambu-jos

Machakos-warri

Voi-kaduna

Kericho-ibadan

Kitale-enugu

Busia-owerri

Naivasha-maiduguri

Kakamega-Awka

Malindi-Aba

Kisii-Benin

Are you now satisfied

GERALD710:
Since When did Southlands, South C, and Langata become rich areas?SMH!!!If Langata is what you call High class, Lawd, what will you call the apartments in my area and even Westlands is not considered high class either but Middle Class

GERALD710:
Hasnt a picture showing Kariobangi, Tena and Innercore been postedLast I checked those ARE lower Income estates by the Kenyan definition.
Any Nairobian will tell you that in Eastlands, North of Buruburu is all low income until you reach Kasarani in Nairobi's far North. East of Buruburu, even from the picture, only a part of Umoja is middle income(Close to Outering). Innercore and Tena(especially given the congestion since 2010) are NOT middle income!!
Look at the picture again!!!

NairobiWalker:
You do realize you're contradicting your friend.............he posted that video here over five times boasting about how decent Surulere is and how Nairobi middle class estates can't match it. He posted photos of houses with very high rent claiming that's where your middle class and poor live. The houses I'm posting are even cheaper than those he posted.