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obaaderemi:
That's why they dare not post their pictures here. And yes HIV prevalence is high there. Kisumu has a HIV prevalence of about 25%! But that doesn't account for the slim figures of most Kenyans. I think that's more about their gene,especially the kalenjins and lunjes.

Hahaha, very true..
Since we started this thread, many Nigerians have shown themselves. Only one Kenyan has actually showed himself. The remaining skinny sissies like TashaMaria & KiberaWalker (aka TayserMahiri & NairobiWalker) cannot dare to show themselves...

You know, I love the west african genes which is more bulky, with a better musculature... Can't you see how our black american descendants look like?

West Africans like the Hausa-fulanis who tend to be skinnier just like East africans tend to have a very good looking face to cover up.

Kenyans tend to have neither. Lol, neither face nor stature

Though I know that Kenyan Kalenjins are the ones who tend to look very skinny. The Kikuyus tend to look better but they are too short.

obaaderemi:
Sonny, it doesn't quite work that way. This is from a Little Indian source:

https://www.tuko.co.ke/273976-richest-county-kenya-2017-2018.html

Nairobi
It’s impossible to give a full list of richest
counties in Kenya without mentioning
Nairobi. Notably, this is the richest
county in Kenya 2018. Despite having a
large population and a revenue of about
sh 1.5 billion, Nairobi has a low GDP per
capita of $1,790 .

I have exposed them on this before and they never gave me a response.
For God sake, Lagos has a higher GDP per capital than the rest of Nigeria. Rivers state (PH) also has too and definitely so does Abuja.
This clearly tells that there are more opportunities in such places.

Since over a year ago, I was shocked when I discovered that Nairobi's income per capital is lower than other counties. It doesn't make any sense.

This speaks volumes of the large population of wretched people all over Nairobi who are highly concentrated in the slums and the concentration camp houses.

This is why only a fool takes a city like Nairobi serious. The place is just so fake.

I actually watched a CNN documentary of a Nairobi bus driver, in spite of all the sky scrappers concentrated in one part of Nairobi, the city did not still look fascinating.. Pictures can be very deceiving.
In the documentary, I could see patchy roads all over the city.

Jonraid:
Kenyan comedians rarely use an accent that can make us laugh,maybe they would when they are mimicking a politician. We just laugh at the raw jokes, not the accent. His main target audience has all been Kenyans tbf, we just love mixing English and Swahili. I got to say the way Trevor Noah does it is so marvellous, the best one in Africa in standup comedy I'd say!

I think Kenyans mixing English and Swahili together is just very ridiculous.
If you wanna speak English, speak it, if Swahili, speak it.

This is probably the reason why Tanzanians speak and sing a far sweeter flavour of Swahili.

I fell in love with the swahili language because of Tanzanian singers.

Daejoyoung:
Do you actually mean you are impressed with the way Kenyans and Ugandans speak, or are you kidding me?l l always found East African accent ridiculous. l'm surprised you think you speak well or this must be a joke.

Thank you. I couldn't believe that Kenyans were claiming to speak English better than Nigerians.
I wasn't just interested in that argument at that moment cos I find it ridiculous for Africans to be bragging on who speak a white man's language better.

Educated Nigerians speak the most beautiful kind of English in Africa. Many Nigerians now speak English as a first language (which is sad though).
I doubt that there are any Kenyans who speak English as a first and sole language. I always find the accent of other Africans ridiculous.

TayserMahiri:
The word is versatile. All of the Nigerians wear the same clothing like in conservative Muslim countries so the whole country is one uniform mess. Your country looks like a military camp or a primary school. Kenya is the opposite, people wear differently from traditional to modern to everything. Thats versatility.

This is very false!

Nigerian tribes dress very differently and in most cases, even within the same tribe, sub-tribes dress differently and practice different cultures.
We have began to share each other's cultures over time but we all still have our independent original cultures.

That's why I said I could show you hundreds of distinct cultures from Nigeria, I wasn't joking about that.

No other country in Africa has as much cultural diversity as Nigeria.
Infact, East Africa combined with Horn Africa is still not as diversified as Nigeria.

Daejoyoung:
Safaricom is state owned but it is what it is today due to the influence of Vodafone, it has been hugely developed by whites, am l wrong?

You are certainly correct bro. Safaricom can never be compared to Globacom that was started from the scratch and 100% owned by a black man.

That was how Kenyans here refused to let us breathe because of Mpesa, only for them to be disgraced openly here that Mpesa was the idea of a foreigner. Since then they have kept it shut in shame.

NairobiWalker:
How many Nigerians do online shopping seriously? In Kenya, from the peasant farmer in a remote village to the slum dweller in Kibera to the filthy rich in Muthaiga, everyone shops in malls. We can confidently be proud of malls. Online shopping is something that less than 1% of Nigerians use regularly - not always but regularly. In Kenya, many people buy in malls always. It's stupid to compare malls in Kenya with online shopping in Nigeria.

Stop being a cheap and unreasonable hater.

Read the links below and see the population of Nigerians shopping online... The world now recognizes the power of our online shopping population and you are here typing rubbish.
If Nigerians were not shopping online in crazily huge numbers then our online shopping companies wouldn't have been so rich to the extent of coming to dominate your own Kenyan market..

https://guardian.ng/business-services/nigeria-leads-south-africa-others-in-online-shopping/amp

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/nigeria-ranks-3rd-online-mobile-shopping/amp/

kikuyu1:
Why do you insist when its been proved there are more Indians in Dangoteland,per capita and on the whole?



Ours are a 100k citizens!

There are estates and different places in Kenya that are dominated by Indians. Can you show me one single part of Nigeria dominated by Indians or Lebanese?
For a group to number 1 million in Nigeria, at least there must be areas dominated by them.

peacengine:
This Lord Adam dude acts like he knows what he's talking about but no. The oldest civilization was in Egypt, Egyptians were blacks, the next was in Ethiopia and they were blacks too, yet even though they were both civilized white race still had no respect. They still invaded once their technologies were potent enough in terms of weaponry. Most people taken for slavery were West Africans because they capitalized on their mental weaknesses especially South Westerners, they also took people via Eastern route through Calabar but not as many as Badagry route.


For as little as 1 bottle of dry gin, Westerners were willing to give 40 humans from their tribes in exchange. Things like mirrors, sugar, salt, were all used in trading.

Same inferiority I see on this thread. Some even blaming themselves for another person's attitude towards them, others saying no race hates black, very stupid views

The Europeans never recognized nor agreed to the fact that Ancient Egyptians or Abbysinians (Ethiopians) were black.
That is why they do not classify us under the same racial category with these people. I have done an extensive research on this. They claim Horn africans are of Hamitic-semitic descent just like the Arabs while ancient Egyptians were caucasian just like current day north africans... We all know this is false.. But hey they invented all these terminologies and hence did the classifications.

travelland:
No, he's not. Kindly take your inferiority else where Sir, I refuse to exchange words with you, bye.

People just use words which they do not know the meaning anyhow nowadays. Pathetic.

TayserMahiri:
It will take years for these folks to comprehend the level of advances Kenya has made. He thinks fast internet is only in Nairobi when someone is Garissa is most likely browsing faster than him.

Jay254:
Just remind the fool, the list says Kenya has one of the highest internet speed in the world,It does not say Nairobi.

There is nowhere in your links that prove that the entire Kenya enjoy the kind of speeds you are boasting about... I went through your links.

The project is commendable but it still needs a lot of work to achieve all that you list.
Besides, fibre optic cables have a limited distance coverage... They are only situated in your major towns and we know that Kenyans are overwhelmingly rural... So, it can never benefit up to half of your population, perhaps only a quarter of the population when it works to full capacity.

gallivant:
Assuming Dangotelanders prefer online shopping, how do they get the purchased goods delivered in Makoko?

For areas that may not be safe or easily accessible, there must be a delivery point very close by which is safer, accessible and still quite close enough...

Ditch your preference of malls. Online shopping is the future and the way to go....
For someone like me, I hate wasting my time going to malls to shop! Some people are too busy for things like that and that's where online shopping comes in handy...

travelland:
How old are you? I'm guessing you are an inexperienced teenager who feels the need to type something even when he has absolutely no knowledge or clue of what he's saying. Clap for yourself

He is correct.

Nowenuse:
Make no mistake. I can never justify racism... All I'm saying is that it is an endemic trait in humans and even animals to look down on others they think they are better than.

Yes, we can try to fight the outward effects of this discrimination, but we can never change the subconsciousness... I don't know how else to put this for you guys to understand me.

The only way you can stop people from looking down on you completely is by proving these people wrong on the reasons why they look down on you!

Take a class of children for example, the whole class will always make fun of the dull one... No matter how much the teacher tries to stop the other children from making fun of the dull one, the fact that that one is dull will still never leave their minds..... They may not laugh at the dull one again because they were cautioned by the teacher, however they will still discriminate him in other ways which the teacher may not be able to control, like no one would want to be his friend or play with him, no one would take him serious even if he has something important to say etc.

Not until the day the dull one can disprove his mates and prove how bright he is, or at least excel in another area, the negative views about him will never change...

It's nature, you can't fight it.

BlackManta:
Before you try to justify racism as something natural.
Read this quote from Nelson Mandela.

Make no mistake. I can never justify racism... All I'm saying is that it is an endemic trait in humans and even animals to look down on others they think they are better than.

Yes, we can try to fight the outward effects of this discrimination, but we can never change the subconsciousness... I don't know how else to put this for you guys to understand me.

The only way you can stop people from looking down on you completely is by proving these people wrong on the reasons why they look down on you!

Take a class of children for example, the whole class will always make fun of the dull one... No matter how much the teacher tries to stop the other children from making fun of the dull one, the fact that that one is dull will still never leave their minds..... They may not laugh at the dull one again because they were cautioned by the teacher, however they will still discriminate him in other ways which the teacher may not be able to control, like no one would want to be his friend or play with him, no one would take him serious even if he has something important to say etc.

Not until the day the dull one can disprove his mates and prove how bright he is, or at least excel in another area, the negative views about him will never change...

It's nature, you can't fight it.

dasparrow:
Most Nigerians are notorious for worshipping white people and excusing their racism. I really don't know why so many Nigerians suffer from inferiority complex. I don't even know where they got it from.

Many black Americans wish they had their own country so they won't have to deal with white people's racism anymore and here you have some Nigerian excusing rascism. Nigerians will learn.

It's not a matter of inferiority. Let us understand the message the man is trying to pass.

Asians were also discriminated all over the west decades ago, today such hardly happens!
Did Asians protest, cry, campaign, shout or raise their own shoulders high before the west started respecting them? No!

So, what is it that these Asians did that made them earn the respect of the west? That is the message here.

victorvezx:
The man has inferiority complex. We know black people like him that worship white people. It's no surprise the fool is married to a white woman. Am sure he considers her a trophy

You guys are just misinterpreting the man's view completely... Many of us understand his message and point of view. It is not a matter of inferiority complex.

BlackManta:
Yes Racism is good.
In fact Racism is very nice and every black man deserves it
If someone is inferior then it's perfectly okay to be racist on the person
Every black man deserves racism because Africa is not doing well
In fact more racism should fall on us
In sha Allah Amen.

Racism is justified

Racism is natural.

Madness

victorvezx:
Arabs do not not go through the same disrespect black people go through in America or Europe, even when most Arabs countries are nothing to write home about. Their skin colour keeps it at the bearable minimum. Look at how the Libyans are treating black people as inferior beings only fit to be slaves even when Nigeria and most black African country is far better than war-torn Libya. Look at how Lebanese treat black people both in Nigeria and in Lebanon even when their country is nothing to write home about. They can't treat a white man or an Indian like this. It all boils down to skin colour. Once they are light skin, they automatically believe they are superior to other darker humans. They don't care about whether ur country is developed, because Nigeria is far more developed than the two countries I used as example, but yet this people still see us as inferior to them because we are darker.

How can you say most Arab countries are nothing to write home about?

Apart from Yemen, can you mention one Arab country that Nigeria is better than?

Where did you put the likes of Qatar (with the highest Income per capital in the world)?
Where did you put UAE (which has Dubai, constantly ranked the most beautiful city in the world)?
What about Oman, Bahrain, Saudi & Kuwait?

Even countries like Iraq with all the terrorism and wars is still better than Nigeria (the supposed giant of Africa).

Can't you see how the arab speaking North Africa is far better than Sub saharan Africa?

BlackManta:
Dont mind them.
So because Africa the home of black race is not doing well, that gives people the right to be racist

There is no justification for racism.
Africa may be bad but that doesn't give a white man the right to spit on me.

We are humans before RACE classified US.
Humanity must be considered before race.

Stay there and keep on writing sermons.

It is natural for people to look down on those they feel better than. It is a universal practice, it can never be enliminated. It's effects can only be reduced..

obaaderemi:
Kenyans and gluttony! The old goat sold his future for a mess of pottage. $600! That Ghanaian guy no try at all. If he had not played so cheaply, at least he could have been offered more. Not that it would have helped him, but $600? Now he would be forced to watch the world cup with the likes of tasha and RSVP in their Kibera hovels.

And in spite of the gluttony of these Kenyans, you still find the majority of them looking like HIV or sickle-cell patients. So skinny and emaciated.

TayserMahiri:
We know it because this is what Yemi Alade said

Yemi Alade may think Kenya is colder cos she has not lived in northern nigeria where temperatures fall as low as 4°c during winter.

Nigeria is so big, vast and evenly developed that 90% of Nigerians do not leave their own regions.. I have relatives who have never stepped their foot on southern Nigerian soil, yet they travel abroad to other countries.

So no need to judge her cos she is obviously speaking from her own point of view.

If I ask you Kenyans to show me the so called cultural diversity of Kenya now, the only thing I get are masai shukas and maybe few Oromo and Samburu cultures. Chikena.

But I can show you hundreds of distinct Nigerian cultures... I dare you to show me 12 distinct cultures from Kenya asides the Masais, Samburus, Oromos, Turkanas & Somalis.

Jay254:
Nairobi is twice Lagos Per Capita, I know you will refuse and denie as usual..

Let me break it down for you..

KENYA'S GDP currently is at $88b and Nairobi controls about 50% of that=$44b

Nairobi population is currently around 4.5Million people

When you make quick maths, Nairobi GDP per capita is over $10,000.

Twice lagos.

Who is this person telling lies here? Nairobi urban area has approximately 7 million people or more...

If you are talking about Nairobi county alone, can you show us the proofs that Nairobi county alone is up to $44 billIion?...

TayserMahiri:
What trouble? You also have the highest numbers of people without internet (technically in the dark ages)

And I need not mention our internet speed.

Jack Ma was in Kenya and the first thing he said on Live TV was how shocked he was when he browsed. He thought his browser was probably insane because of the speed. In the USA, the only place with faster internet than Kenya is NASA.

Only about 87 million Nigerians are not active internet subscribers out of 1 billion Africans who are not.. That's about 8.7%.... Meanwhile we are 15% of the continent's population...

Nairobi has fast internet, what about Garissa,Turkana and other parts of northern kenya? Do they have such? or any internet at all?

All Nigerian cities have access to 4G network, while 3G is available almost everywhere.

NairobiWalker:
Lol, name me one major retail outlet that is Nigerian. Everybody knows SA and Kenya are continental leaders when it comes to retail outlets.

Same way Nigeria dominates Africa when it comes to online marketing and other forms of e-commerce.

Are SA and Kenya siamese twins? SA dominates retail marketing and Kenya does not. You either dominate or you don't.

rvp20182:
Again Nigeria pathetic education comes to bite. You're confusing the fact that 44% of Nigeria are connected to internet with Africa. Kenya leads Africa in internet penetration..

And again Kenya lead by far in terms of internet speed....we have internet speeds as good as Isreal & developed world.

We have invested massively in fiber...making sure there is real broadband all over.

Use your brain!
97 million out of 185 million Nigerians are active internet subscribers.
That's 52% of the population and 44% of Africa's internet subscribing population, since Africa only has 216 million internet subscribers.

obaaderemi:
Can you blame the women? When the men are either drunk or glued to nairaland. And the "hard on" part, the way the Little Indian typed it,he must be seriously praying for one. But obviously he had been rendered useless by Chang' aa. See how serious they take the evil brew below:

Kenyan men, stop taking Chang'aa!

It is ruining your lives and destinies.... What benefit does it have?

Perhaps we have to start an online campaign hashtag

obaaderemi:
44% of Africa's internet subscribers from Nigeria alone? That's massive. I guess it's the reason these guys are angry here. The frustration of coming from an inconsequential land.

Exactly...
This is why it is very clear that almost half of Africa's middleclass citizens come from Nigeria...

Jonraid:
The Forbes top 2000 companies in the world.China and the US dominated this segment.

In Africa,SA leads the park, Nigeria comes second with with two companies then Kenya with only one company.

South African companies in the list are;

1.Standard Bank
2.First Rand
3.Sasol
4.Naspers
5.Sanlam
6.MTN Group
7.Shoprite Holdings
8.MMI Holdings
9.Remgro
10.RBM Holdings
11.Bid Corp

The Nigerian companies are Dangote Cement and Zenith Bank.The only Kenyan company featured was Safaricom with an estimated market valuation of 11.1 billion US dollars.

Who is the real giant of Africa? Us Kenyans with only a paltry 88billion dollars GDP could at least get recognition with Safaricom which only operates in Kenya and it's profits coming only from Kenyans.

I really expected Nigeria to go neck to neck with SA but wow!they disappointed! I still think that SA is miles above Nigeria.SA is more richer than Nigeria and that's a fact.

400 billion plus GDP? Really?

References(Links)

https://www.forbes.com/global2000/#7ce5d0c335d8

http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/1840340-4601472-1pbt70z/index.html

https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/250133/these-are-the-11-biggest-companies-in-south-africa/

Only a fool will expect South Africa to be equal with Nigeria on something like this.

White south africans started building businesses and had access to the world's economy for so many donkey years before Nigerians did...

sufferNsmiling:
Now I can see you are confused. Shopping malls is infrastructure while shopping online most of the savers are not even based in nigeria. Nigerians do not go to malls or banks because it is not safe.

What the hell do you mean by to savers are not based in Nigeria?
Most of the products available in Nigerian online markets are from Nigeria.

obaaderemi:
Hahahahaha,now you are crying. Its not my fault Your girlfriend can't feel your penetration due to the smallness of it all(population and $50bn economy.) Thank you for admitting mine is a hardon. Big and hard as you said.Your women are feeling us better and you the men are not left out. Evidence is right here on nairaland. You are about to feel us more in Kenya.

Hahaha, you got it right.
Kenyan women go as far as denouncing their nationality and claim to be Nigerians because of our 'big and hard' hard on.

Drunkeness of Chang'aa has rendered Kenyan men useless.

rvp20182:
Read again - we beat you all over - smartphone penetration - internet penetration - phone penetration.

And you are throwing absolute numbers - we beat your in phone penetration - Kenya phone penetration is around 90% - Nigeria around 80%. You total connection is anything 140-160M - you still have about 50M (ANOTHER KENYA) inside Nigeria - before you can thinking of expanding to East Africa. In Kenya we are already 40M plus out of 48M - we only have to buy our teenagers phones to make

Stop telling lies. Kenyan phone pentration is 83% 40 milllion out of 48 million people (2016 population estimate)... That of Nigeria is 81%... 150 million out of 185 million people (2016 population estimate)

Jay254:
You don't have to write just because you have that freedom, facts must always come first.

Currently the biggest retailers in the country are owned 100% by black Kenyans. Nakumatt went under.

If foreigners were the reason for the advanced retail sector, we have countries like Botwana, Namibia,Zimbabwe,Madagascar would have more advenced retail sector than Kenya.

In kenya you will find malls and supermarkets in villages, low to high income areas.

Kenyans are being fascinated by malls while Nigerians are being fascinated by online shopping.

Which is more modern?

Nigeria leads Africa, and is ranked 3rd in the world in population of people who shop online.

https://guardian.ng/business-services/nigeria-leads-south-africa-others-in-online-shopping/amp

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/nigeria-ranks-3rd-online-mobile-shopping/amp/