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He is the interim champion because the champion's out sick.
A lot of people still believe Izzy is a hype though because he couldn't finish Gastelum despite his significant height and reach advantage. But at least with this fight he has proven he is a top 5 contender at the very least.
I will like to see how he does against the likes of Whitaker, Yoel Romero and Luke Rockhold before I actually decide about him.

tactius:
No, most sources we have for Hannibal were written centuries after he lived.

You guys should read the link I posted earlier. Then we can talk.

Most you said. Not all. All sources we have for Jesus were written after he lived and by his followers.

Akalia:
Just because the religion of today isn't what religion was in the era of our savior christ jesus and the early apostles according to James 1:27, does not mean that modest, noble, and sincere servants of GOD don't exist.

There are no noble and sincere servants of God. There are just a lot of overzealous delusional people that think they are serving God. And doing it mostly for the selfish rewards they hope to attain in the afterlife.

tactius:
I doubt it. He is in essence saying that 'Jesus NEVER EVER ' existed , even the concept of Jesus as a good moral teacher? Never existed.

The beleif has been around for a long period of time. It is based on the 'argument from silence' and it is an argument I don't like...because at the end of the day, you would be arguing that historical figures like Hannibal did not exist because 'we have no contemporary reports from neutral writers about them'

The answer I posted link for is in essence NOT an argument for Jesus as Son of God (I think that is what martinez thinks I am up to...although I am a Chrstian and I beleive in the divinity of Jesus) but an argument against the fake idea that 'Because contemporary figure X did not mention Jesus...therefore Jesus is a myth....which I don't like.

What sort of strawman is this?
Hannibal existed. And we know this because of numerous accounts by different people about him. The Romans, his enemy, wrote about him too. Thosesame Romans didnt even mention Jesus. You would think someone like that with that much power and recognition would be known by great Roman historians who were documenting thoroughly the wonders they discovered in conquered lands. Even modern day Barcelona was named after Hannibal's father Hamilcar Barca.

So it is sad that Hannibal who existed years before Jesus has a lot more evidence for his existence amongst his contemporaries than Jesus did. Very sad. So someone must be lying.

Pentasoft1978:
You started insulting me, so get what you want........muslim is a demonic ocultic group practice, practiced by blood sucking and flesh eating demons like you...Is Muslims a religion?, ...a terrorist religion, killing people home and abroad......a demonic philosophy promising people 72 virgin women in paradise if they take the lives of their fellow human.....if the entire Nigeria was practicing Christianity, Nigeria would had been, one of the best country in the world.....your demonic religion is what is dragging this country backward.

Lol bloody clown. U think I am a Muslim? Hahahaha.
The joke is on u. You don't even have the intelligence to do a thorough research before shooting blind. Typical of a religionist. Always believing what they want and not looking at reality

tactius:
Well, the guy I quoted is an atheist who does not beleive Jesus is the son of God nor does he believe that Jesus did any miracles, or whatever.

However, he believes in a guy who was called Jesus, and existed.And has used his proof.

(By the way, I had this answer brought to my attention by another Quoran I follow who happens to be an atheist, and who highly recommended the answer)

Just read the article. You may learn something. Have gone through all the 'Jesus is a myth' and the responses to them in my 15 years on the web, so nothing shocks me anymore.

I believe a guy called Jesus must have existed too. I believe he was just a teacher of morals in his time. Just like there were many other teachers at that same time too. Unfortunately his desperate followers have corrupted his teaching and his history. And everything written about him are mostly impossible nonsense. Most of them were trying to copy stories about other mythical and historic figured before him to lend weight to his teaching. That's why they adapted his virgin birth story from that of other older religions. And also talked about him being hunted by Herod when he was born to make him seem like a saviour of Moses's stature.

I think this is the argument Martinez39 is trying to make. Though his atheism makes him likely to favour total mythicism of Jesus considering the dearth of evidence to the contrary.

So who did God have tell Africans about Him? who are the witnesses God left for Africans so that they will be saved before Christianity came? Orunmila and Amadioha?

Instead of u to admit u don't know the answer to what happens to people who died before Christianity and leave it to God, u just decided to wing it and throw about a bunch of meaningless Bible verses that cannot withstand logic, abi?

Foolish thread.

A40:
I thought Gastellum had him in the 4th. I'm very surprised he didn't finish him off.

Izzy needs to work on his defense a bit.

And all that Jon Jones talk. Lmaooo I beg make e just be for bants. He doesn't want that smoke at all

Hahahaha. I swear. Jon Jones will rape his ass. The guy couldn't even finish the 44-year-old spider who has been out of practice for about 2 years. He needs to calm down and learn how to wrestle before even talking about Jones.

Let him test himself against Joel Romero and Whitaker first. If he can beat Yoel Romero with his head still attached to his shoulders then I will root for him against Jones.

Jones is a big problem for anyone.

tobianthony:
How Dustin Poirier guys ?

Man, max Holloway is a zombie . I think the problem was Dustin's early transition to light weight really showed. Max hasn't built enough muscle and his punches lacked power.

I believe max has to decide to stay at lightweight and come up with a good nutrition plan to bulk up and add muscle . His stamina and chin are stuff of legends .

Perhaps he was waiting for Dustin to tank in the later rounds.

Incredible nonetheless .

That and the fact that Max isn't used to eating punches from 155ers. We know about his stamina. The guy has one of the best cardios in the UFC. But we don't know about his chin yet. He has not really fought with very good strikers of his own level in the past. He has always been outclassing every opponent in the 145 division. Let him eat a lot of head-rocking punches at 155 then we can decide about his chin.

Not really the champion. He is the interim champion because the champion's out sick.
A lot of people still believe Izzy is a hype though because he couldn't finish Gastelum despite his significant height and reach advantage. But at least with this fight he has proven he is a top 5 contender at the very least.
I will like to see how he does against the likes of Whitaker, Yoel Romero and Luke Rockhold before I actually decide about him.

FreshBoss007:
all Christian relics are kept safe by Catholics,
and I imagine why some people still deny that this is the church founded by Christ himself

So because they keep relics they one way or another profit from, that is a sign to u that the church was founded by Christ himself? You got jokes.
You do realise that keeping the relics is just another way to have control over people who venerate those relics, right?
Those relics are meaningless nonsense. Just tools for the control of moronic religious minds. Your priests know it. That's why they still end up fvcking alter-boys after kissing those staircases.

Religion is big business I swear. All these guys need do is get any random staircase anywhere and put it in the Vatican and claim it was the staircase of Jesus and religious morons will just come and be kissing it.

These priests know religion is just a tool to control the masses and these relics are another set of tools to manipulate adherents of the religion. Control access to relics and control the people. Keep them in a perpetual cold-turkey mode like crackheads itching for a cocaine fix. LMAO.

They know religion is a scam. They just don't care. That's why they make u all come and kiss stairs while they just keep fvcking the altar-boys.

Same thing with Pentecostals. The pastors tell u u are working for God. Collect ur tithes and build up mansions and businesses for themselves on earth. Show off their wealth they got by manipulating u. Then entice ur daughters with that wealth and sleep with your wives and aunts in hotels and beds paid for with your money.

Man I love religion!!!

They all claim to have the spirit of God in them. Yet the spirit in them can't seem to agree on what it wants. Now u have 300 denominations all saying different things and seeing different visions.
Seems the only spirit these guys possess is the spirit of confusion.

barapistis:
Bro,

Its called wisdom

Wisdom gotten from the spirit of God

The spirit decern all things even the realtime intent of men

Sir,its more than real time as the wisdom of the spirit is able to know what the original intention is

Example

A soldier may be sent on a mission to discover loop holes . his only mission is to discover openings in the enemies camp

These soldier by reason of his rank knows nothing else regarding the original intent of his masters

It may be to safe another soldier

To capture a city or to subdue another kingdom

The isreali mossad use this model a lot

No katsas know the original intent of those in the office

The sayims serving the Katsas knows nothing about mossad

They just do their jobs and so is the bodas can't remember their names properly

But we as Christians are able to know the true one by the reason of the spirit in us

Their is an a knowledge of truth in all creation

You may decide to repress it

But when the spirit of the Father shows up

You will know this is the Truth... Its a spirit experience
Not easily communicated in human languages

Pentasoft1978:
Stupendous stupidity, you have lost your sense of coordination, you were never a Christian, you don't know what Christianity is all about. Going to church is not what make you a Christian, you were just following the crowd. You can never have true Christian experience and go back. You need deliverance from satanic manipulation, get it before its too late.

But I am sure u have been jerking off to all those fake news about Muslim terrorists converting to Christianity, right?
How about we say all those Muslims were never really Muslims initially?

U clowns just lose it whenever one of your own stop following your ways and start spewing no true Scotsman fallacies everywhere. Get used to it bro. Your religion is cabbage and it will keep losing followers to logic.

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Fsharp54:
Well! you will remember someday that the "rat told you the fake stories about the powerless church and the impotent pastors that can't do sh!t" and you would wish you had listened.
*Peace

Scurry along, lying rat.

Fsharp54:
Believe now or believe at last. You will Sha believe

So that's what made u register on nairaland and immediately start to lie like a rat abi? Because u want us to sha believe.

You are now making up fake stories about growing limb in that your powerless church with impotent pastors that can't do sh!t and very dubious members like yourself.

Christians sha. Any stupid lie to get the advantage. Their sheer numbers are not enough in the face of logic. They start to lose confidence in their beliefs and start to lie to help themselves. Chai!!!

Fsharp54:
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Well! the right hand of a man that wasn't there grew out instantly in a program somewhere in ilorin, in a church "Life spring Assembly" and a lady's leg that was unequal grew and became equal by miracle done only by God.

See evil lie abeg

Lol. All the Christian fvck boys will start rushing there now to knack some desperate religious sisters. Scammers too will be there.

I will just be laughing when the story comes out.

OpenYourEyes1:
The foolishness of atheism:
"Hurricane destroyed my house. If GOD can't build me a new one, engineers will."



GOD doesn't intervene alot in our lives. We have to work hard to get what we need in life due to the curse of eden. This is why he prohibited us from solving our problems with magic or supernaturally.

He allows miracles occasionally as proofs of his existence. Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwha2p2KzR8



GOD instructed Noah to build an ark. GOD could have built the ark if he wanted to but he is a principled GOD.

Fake looking nonsense. I won't be surprised if those rogues just took the bone of an animal and carved it into the poor boys leg for money. The way the bone is sticking out to the side is suspect.
Fake bastards.

Trust me. The day u get smart and realise your religion is horseshit, the day u will truly become free.

Just wait and watch how all the Christians here that are committing many so-called sins of their own come here and start falling over one another to teach u how not to back slide anymore. Lol

They are all fake clowns. Write this down anywhere. No matter what they tell u today, u will still backslide. The only difference is that u may not care anymore and still be claiming u are a holy radical for Jesus.

The best thing u can do for ur peace of mind is rid it of religion and start using your brain that God gave u.

RhemaJet7:
This is a serious WARNING to you and other enemies of the Kingdom.
If you rebel again, and if every Word of God i have delivered on this thread and the future prophecies are all true 100%, then, the law of the following scripture shall be applied to you:

Hosea 4:6

''My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.''

Hungry fool.

Go and get a job instead of posting nonsense online. You aren't fooling anyone with ur fake prophecies.

See what joblessess can cause. This one is trying hard to hustle and make money from Americans. LMAO.

Fake people everywhere.

Dudeweedlmao:
Evolutionary theory claims that life started with a cell that formed by chance. According to this scenario, four billion years ago various lifeless chemical compounds underwent are action in the primordial atmosphere on the earth in which the effects of thunderbolts and atmospheric pressure led to the formation of the first living cell.

The first thing that must be said is that the claim that inanimate materials can come together to form life is a non-scientific one that has not been verified by any experiment or observation.

Life is only generated from life. Each living cell is formed by the replication of another cell. No one in the world has ever succeeded in forming a living cell by bringing inanimate materials together, not even in the most advanced laboratories.

So much ignorance has never been spouted so proudly. Look at this guy loudly proclaiming his ignorance to the world with the boastful air of a college professor. LMAO

My guy ignorance looks beautiful on u.

Foolish lies by illiterates.

My God!!! What marvelous moronic fuckery doth these minds conjure.

Debt is not just money changing hands. It is a spirit changing hands.

Hahahaha. Next they will tell us buying and selling isn't just monetary exchange. It is souls swapping bodies. The religious mind is a sad cluttered hell.

IAmSabrina:
Is there proof of Jim collecting money from Josh? I'm not aware of that. I'm only aware of and/or only recollect Jim's account of the tale, which is plastered all over the web btw.

U don't expect Jim to tell us there was pecuniary inducement in the whole story that played out, do u?

That guy is shady. He just came out and painted himself as a victim of exploitation. But his history actually shows he is the one always trying to exploit other people. I don't believe that guy was just hypnotised by mere reverence of TB Joshua. The only thing that would have made it easy for him to play along, even if he was hypnotised, was the money involved.

shadeyinka:
You see why I didn't want to compare you and IAmSabrina?

1. So, T.B. Joshua pays an average of 50 people every Sunday to come and act. And they haven't been blackmailing him because of Juju
2. Jim Iyke mother had terminal cancer and all he could think of was making money from scoan. Can you see how analytic you are?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpxry0h9CQ

Watch his take of this after him mum had died. If you are in a hurry jump to minute 4.

3. Since Jim Iyke is by his own right comfortable, like how much do you think he was paid?

The reason why I can't even take u seriously is when u believe money couldn't have been involved because the mother had cancer. Lol. People kill their mothers for money and u are here acting as if Jim Iyke is not a human being. Just look at u reasoning like a gnat. So because his mother is sick he couldn't possibly try to profit from it? U know this how? Do u even know the relationship he had with his mum before then? Lol. What if he saw the acting in the church as a way to recoup some of the money he had spent on his mothers illness?

Your inability to even consider the possibility is what makes ur argument weak.

And u know Jim Iyke is in his own right comfortable, how? Because he is an actor? What kind of pedestrian thinking is this?

I still maintain Jim Iyke was paid. You can't expect him to tell us he was paid but I am sure it is likely he was.

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shadeyinka:
Sorry point of correction.
Maybe you didn't follow the news

Jim Iyke was thoroughly embarrassed by his actions made worse by people airing it on you tube. Most of the recordings of his displeasure was within a few weeks after.

Like he said: he took his mum to scoan for healing
And you are saying he was doing a publicity stunt

This same mum later died and you say it is acting!?

Find a better excuse!

It is a publicity stunt for SCOAN. Those wankers are fake.

The mum is the reason why he was willing to do the stunt. That and the money SCOAN must have paid him. That guy is shady. And TB Joshua is worse. The only redeeming quality Joshua has is his philanthropy.

IAmSabrina:
Didn't Jim later reveal that he was used by TB Josh in the process?

Ever heard of hypnotic ind
uction?

I don't even believe Jim was hypnotised. The dodgy self-servicer collected a very huge amount of money from the equally dodgy TB Joshua to act that script. So years after frittering away the largesse he now came back to his senses and realised that the whole episode was damaging to his brand so he is now trying to walk it back.

shadeyinka:
You don't read well do you?



Do you know the implication of this?
Jim Iyke didn't act any script. He didn't even know what was happening till he was delivered.

Find another excuse!

Lol. Jim Iyke himself has come out to call out what he said was some shady tactics that they used on him. And u are here talking stories. Lol

An actor with a shady history of doing anything for fame and money went on emmanueltv to act action film then came back years later saying he regretted the whole episode. But u Shadeyinka want me to believe u over the guy himself. Hahahaha