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Eze Promoe: Ndi Nnewi unu nyem gboza ato

Nwa Anaedo,nnoo..Kedu ka eke si anya anwu?? Ama m na inwero ugba. Enwelu m oyi na nnewi rinne mana chetakwo na obu "Nnewi sii Edo nwelu nkwo". Ya gazielu yi.

buffny: buhahhahahaha. look here. if we want we can starve ur entire lagos population . and bulldose ur shops. motherfucker.


stupid bastards always trying to claim somebody elses stuff. thats why u stay getting killed.

Abeg,go siddon jare...little pu..ssy !

F..uuuuck you mudafuking nigerians!!!!! I hate you all!!!!

whitecat007: At least you now have a willing ally. so no more excuses not to push us out. The ball is now in your court now that you have the two of you against us. Do it now and stop crying. This is what we Yoruba have been clamoring for. We can now have it on a platter of platinum.

We have come to stay in Lagos and with time we will join her politics in full blow...Isn't that the reason why awo murdered innocent children and called it fair game?? One naiheria!

Believe it or not,the Hausa aren't bad ppl. You can trust them with your life and they will stick out for you but the only problem with them is "Islam" and "lack of education"! I grew up in plateau and we had them as family friends and they are very honest and cool headed. As for awo pikins them...I just dey laugh first.....finish the rest.

mimifonwon: lmaooo look at this okoro, who told you to like me, sorry bro, we are not all meant to be liked jor by everyone. kisses:0 ..wouldnt it be funny if you find out one day that you are not even igbo. decendant my foot. lmaooo see yourself talk about the ngwa people, please dont hate cuz they are the largest clan in igbo land, dont hate appreciate and stop having clan mentality. lmao@ozo title, stop decieving yourself. i hope they gave you a dna test first, cuz i suspect your lineage. Fact is you need to sharap and swallow the fact that i know your culture more than you.. am stilll laughing at the ozo title, if you dont know that only applies to women from your land, omo yoruba ni mi se egbo? lmaoo Ozo title, ibu ozu' ewu, akpala okuku. mtchewww. ga ga rashia otila nne ghi. I hope you liked my little direction there for you. cuz dont try me, cuz ngwa and ijebu-igbo combo is deadly. i fear no man, title my foot. mtcheww!!!! if you dont know each igbo land have its own traditions... and omenala nke ghi abughi nke mama'm.hoha!!

Am glad you understands you are not Igbo,hence your manners. You sound like a girl who was raised by a HARLOT! You are better ignored because you are a disgrace to young women. So much for an ngwa youth leader! I guess you tell young ngwa girls to go suck their fathers d..ick,right ?? I feel very sorry for the mother that raise you! You are WORTHLESS creature...You dare bring yourself up to speak of the great woman that raised me?? You are cursed !

odumchi: Antivirus, this is for you.

http://www.aro-okigbo.com/arosettlement.htm

But wasn't Aro a confederacy that comprises numerious communities including "Akpa",whom are not Igbo. Compare that to the Eri\Nri settlements that are homogeneous. Most of these places you mentioned Aros settle there as a very insignificant minority. For instance,we had Aro settlers in Umuoji and they came with the "Ubuni Ukpabi" but on getting to Umuoji they dropped the deity for the more powerful "ogwugwu Nri" and the "Ikenga". My point is that some of those ppl you call ndi Aro aren't really true Aros, as Aro were a united variety groups of ppl that formed the "Confederacy".

[quote author=Maria-G]onyenka osikwa n'ogini[/quote]Haha...Iwe gi adina oku. I nugo ??

[quote author=Maria-G]hia, unu rapunu ugwu m aka ka o zuruike njem ogara...oginikwanu?[/quote]Agaracha...lol

Chai; Tosh amabata ka osa....Goretti!

afam4eva: What makes one's parents Igbo?

You can't bee Igbo by adoption because Igbo is not a country.

Igbo is not something you feel but what you are.

Nwanne,you nailed it,right there! Its an idea,a lifestyle and a mentality.

Abagworo: The theory of an Nri hegemony as the single basis of Igbo civilization has been quite unfortunately taken from the work of the highly respected scholar and anthropologist,  the late M. Angulu Onwuejiogwu, formerly of the University of Nigeria, Nsukka and later of the University of Benin. Onwuejiogwu's work, on Nri Hegemony and civilization, quite correctly situated the Nri system as AN Igbo civilization. It was not stated with the absolute finality more recent claimants on Nri are disposed to make. Simply, the ioperative word in Onwuejiogwu's work was of the Nri as "AN Igbo civilzation" not "THE Igbo civilization." the deitic article is crucial, and less intolerant of mischief. To put this in a simpler way, Nri was not the beginning nor the only fount of Igbo civilzation. It was neither the first nor would it be the last.
 
Igbo is not a single category. Indeed, Igbo is FOUR. Umu Igbo di Ano.  Oha - (Ora) - is the primordial source of Igbo primogeniture. The four branches of the Igbo are Agbaja, Isu, Oru, na Nri. Of the four, Agbaja was the first born, Nri, the last. According to the Igbo story, the Igbo are the descendants of a Sky-being (Oha) who descended and married a woman native to the land on which he had descended. From the marriage of the Sky being an the earth woman came the four sons that make the Igbo linneage today. At the death of their parents, they established a covenant based on the code of equality and of shared linneage to the skybeing and earthmother. This law of the fathers - the law honoring their patria they called "Iwu-oha" or "Iwu umu oha" and the law honoring their mother they called "Iwu-Ala." They established a shrine in honor of this covenant: Igwe na Ala: the shrine to their father they honored as Igwe, and the shrine to their mother they honored as Ala. "Igwe" or "Orisha" was but an honorific, it seems, to denote to the secrets of the mineral that was then emergent, iron ore and uranium - what the ancient writers called "orishakalum" - a secret which Oha had handed to his children. Descendants of Oha that became known as Ndi Agbaja were great builders or what you may call structural engineers as well as soldiers, Ndi Isu were craftsmen and engineers, Ndi Oru were placed in charge of the marine life, while the last child, Eri and his descendants the Ndi Nri, were great alchemists and priests. Traditionally, the priestly clan was always the domian of the last child, who kept the shrines.

Abagoro,where did you get this trash from ?? Are f..ucking serious??

ChinenyeN: I said Ngwa does not have Ozo/Nze. I never said anything about ichie.


Ke l'eme gbuo! I gara convention k'afona?

Wow,so ndi ngwa has "ndi ichie" ?? How come you didn't tell me this before?? Or are you trying to hide the truth from us ?? Smh.

[quote author=Maria-G]ewoo, nna di uto, ngwa k'anyi kpezie ooo....[/quote]Ifunanya nkea bulukwa eziokwu....Ama n n'uche gi di na ife m na ekwu.

L[quote author=pres-elect]Ndi anambra Nile nu ebe a ndewonu ooo
Eshi m IMO n'ekele unu.

By the way,
Hapukwara nu m Ify o

Unu nwere Ike kporo Maria [/quote]Lmao...Umu Igbo,Eze Nri keneli unu rinne.

Antivirus92: you are really a novice in igbo history. Eri founded agulueri. Okpu people are of eri descent. You said that adama people are not of eri but they founded a community and named it oraERI. Eri met few people when he came because everywhere then was covered with bush. Because eri was more civilised than them. They adopted his(eri) language,custom and tradition and became his followers. NOTE- the igbo language/tradition had not existed before eri. Again ,the people eri met are few and even at that,they have different languages from each other(which is not igbo). They were thought to be farmers/hunters who came from different directions. For the purpose of survival and interaction ,they took up eri language(igbo). Know it again that if eri had not met those people at the time of his arrival, there is a tendency that they would wander away from where eri met them cos they are wanderers and have no definite settlement. Finally,my community are of nri descent but we have adama. Even though i don't know what adama mean but i don't think they are the people eri met on arrival.

Nna,did you see the ignorance that is spreading around like diseases around here ??

Lord Naya: @NRI PRIEST, THE AUTHOCHOUS IGBOS OF NRI I.E THE ADAMAS PRACTISE THIS NZE NA OZO TITLE TAKING WITH THEIR FELLOW AUTHOCHOUS IGBO GROUPS SPREAD ACROSS IGBOLAND. THATS WHY THE FOLLOWING AUTHOCHOUS IGBO GROUPS LIKE AWKA, ORLU, OKIGWE, MBAISE, ADAMA NRI, NKANU, OWERRI, OBOWO, NGWA, IBEKU UMUAHIA AND MANY MORE, CLAIM THEY ESTABLISHED THE TITLE AND THE VARIOUS IGBO CULTURES WITHOUT OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. Eze Nri was initiated and taught this rituals by the ADAMA'S an Igbo authochous group. It is vital you note that many Igbo towns even in delta and rivers state were founded by the descendants of this Igbo groups. So shut up, even a yoruba man that has read books on Igbo history knows about you culture after you.What a shame. If you doubt i will post an interview granted by the Eze Adama Ikenga Nri about the origin of Nri. IGBO WU OTU. AROCHUKWU IS NOT AN AUTHOCHOUS GROUP BECAUSE THEY MIGRATED FROM THE OKIGWE CULTURAL AREA IN IMO STATE AND THE IZZI AREA OF EBONYI STATE. DONT ENBARASS YOURSELVE IN PUBLIC. Ogwashiukwu in delta state was founded by an adama from Nri known as Adaigbo, Asaba was originally founded by Eze Anyanwu from Awka, Ndoni in rivers founded by an Owerri migrant and many more examples. So go and throw your distruptive tantrums else where.

Wait a minute,let's be very clear; what titles and culture of the Igbo are you talking about because we are very clear on who
invented what. And how are my embarassing myself ?? To burst your little bubble;I have read a book about the Adama and we have them in Idenmili,too. But all I see is "adama own eze nri","adama gave him the right to establish the rituals","adama taught Nri the Igbo language"....bunch of bulshiiit! What stops the "adama" from establishing a kingdom before the arrivals of the more superiors "Nri"

Yujin: Nna, your reasoning is flawed. There is nothing like 'real Igbo'. You said Nri invented Nkwo, Orie, Eke and Afor market days. Were they the ones that introduced it down to the Southern Igbos? It is well known that Nri's influence stopped in Anambra, Anioma and Enugu yet people bore names like Okafor, Okoronkwo etc outside these areas even before the advent of the europeans. Even if Nri was more organize and grand than other Igbo clans, Igbo is by far larger and greater than Nri so stop the unnecessary hyping. Many towns in Anambra were found by the Aros et al, where was Nri then? If non-Nri towns were carved out of Anambra, how big will it be? You are an Ozo titled man, I was born by an Nze: now who is atop? Nwanne, bury the pride. Ofu ifunanya.

You know nothing about the history of the Igbo. So,Benins invented the market days too?? And the Igalas, too? Do you even know what is an "onye nze" ?? You are definitely not an Anambrarian,Enugite nor Anioma. Nri influence extended past the whole Igboland to the Benins and Igalas. The origina deities which these market days names were adopted from still exist till this very days in "Agukwu Nri". Do you even know what is an "nze na ozo" ?? Do you think this is a chieftaincy title ?? 90% of Anambra,Enugu and Anioma towns originated from Nri and Eri.Please do more research before you come back here.you are very ignorant of this things you claim to know.

I[quote author=yoruba ruler ]@ NRI PRIEST. Please you an your co-travellers of questionable origin should stop giving we Igbos bad name. If you are Igbo then you would know that there is noting like real or fake Igbo, IGBO WU IGBO. I want you to know that the real Nri's ARE THE ADAMAS WHO WERE IN THEIR PRESENT LOCATION BEFORE MENRI MIGRATED FROM AGULERI. The authochous Adamas dont recall their origin but recall the period Menri migrated to the area and the time nri with his co-travellers were assimilated by them. The Adamas are also the aborigines of Oraeri, Adazi enu and Adazi nnukwu towns long before the arrival of Nri Ifiquanim Menri from Aguleri.They are the ones who appointed Eze Nri to serve as their ritual agent and taught Eze Nri the ritual rites they perfomed and the Igbo days and years counting which Igbos allover Igboland were already practicing. AS OWNERS OF THE EZE NRI TITLE, THEY DECIDE AS WELL AS CROWN WHO WOULD BE EZE NRI TILL TODAY. THEY ALSO INHERIT THE PROPERTIES OF EZE NRI UPON HIS DEATH, THEY CAN CHALLENGE THE PRONOUNCEMENT OF EZENRI IF IT CONTRADICTS THEIR BELIEVE, ADVICES EZENRI ON SPIRITUAL MATTERS AND ARE IN CHARGE OF HIS PROTOCOLS. Hence in Nri their is an adage which says ONYE FE NRI, NRI EFE ADAMA meaning if you honour Eze Nri, Nri would in turn honour the Adamas. This is because they appointed Nri as their spiritual agent. As Igbos they share similar culture and beliefs with other authochous Igbo groups across Igboland WITHOUT ANY IGBO GROUP INFLUENCING THE OTHER. Even in Aguleri aborigines are the okpu villages which are the most senior villages in Aguleri the home of Nri. When Eri the father of Nri migrated to the Aguleri He met the okpu people who are have established there long before his arrival.According to the oral history of the aguleris, ERI ADOPTED THE LANGUAGE AND CULTURES OF THE OKPU PEOPLE. THE BIG QUESTION IS SINCE ERI AND HIS GROUP ADOPTED THE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE OF THEIR HOST THE OKPU PEOPLE, WHO ARE THE OKPU PEOPLE ? SINCE IT HAS BEEN SEVERALLY PROVED THAT THE OKPU PEOPLE ARE IGBOS,WHO SPOKE IGBO AND PRACTICE THE IGBO CULTURE FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, WHAT WAS THE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE OF ERI AND HIS GROUP BEFORE THEY WERE ASSIMILATED BY THEIR IGBO ABORIGINES ? The Okpu people control the most important diety in Aguleri till date.
Their are many authochous Igbo groups spread across Igboland which have given birth to many Igbo towns and communities within and outside the south east. SO ANYBODY THAT SAYS THEIR IS A FAKE AND REAL IGBOS IS A MISCHIEVIOUS IGNORAMUS WITH QUESTIONABLE BACKGROUND WHICH SHOULD BE REBUKED,CASTIGATED AND CORRECTED BY ALL INTELLIGENT IGBOS. Mind you am good in Igbo history and i can clear your doubts with facts. You can read up this well researched article written by a professor in Igbo language and culture known as Politics of Igbo Origin and Culture at: groups.yahoo.com/group/AnambraForum/message/45010[/quote]I will come back to this,later.

pazienza: Hehe!

Anam achikwanu!

beautiful Onyi: Nri priest, you are so ancient! Give it a rest, pls act civilized and stop giving Igbo men a bad name.

Bia nwanyi,how are my giving Igbo men bad name?? Onye ekotalu,ogodia ekotalu ya. And by the way,are you sure you are not mistaking "conservative" for "ancient"

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mimifonwon: wait nri priest are you mad because it looks like i know more about your igbo culture than you...awww... please go to orimiri and drown. I dont understand some men's mentality at times, for your info i grew up in igboland then to usa and my grandmother(igbo) raised us in the states while my parents worked. yes my father is yoruba and so? You yourself if you dont know are not 100% igbo. There is nothing like 100% yoruba or igbo or hausa or any tribe. Yes given am a yoruba girl cuz my dad is, but ndi igbo says nneka and truly i have valued my maternal history as much as my paternal, maybe even more. My grandfather is one of the ndichie in his village and everything i know about the igbos come from him and books i have read. He is 98 now and very strong old man, with sharp memories, so when i tell part of the igbo history i know, know that i have not only books to back it up, but first hand treasured accounts, that many people can dream of, and i will say am lucky for that. so dont hate, appreciate that there are people who value your culture as much as you do.

As a woman,you are too aggressive for my liking; What makes you think you know Igbo culture more than I do ?? I'm telling you this once again; I'm a decendant of the Igbo that invented most of the revered,respected and widely known Igbo cultural practices like "Nze na Ozo","Ikpu Alu","Iwa ji","Ofalla","Igu Aro","Eke,oye,afor na nkwo weekdays,"Igu onwa" and so many other inventions that made the Igbo nation to tower above the rest. How dare you speak of knowledge you know not olf ? Look,Ngwa is not really considered true Igbo,hence,you see ppl like Chinenye badmouthing the Igbo. Tell me one Ngwa tradition that is known accross Igboland...Ngwa has no defined culture! They are just bunch of wanderers that came from Imo areas and settled with out a proper organized traditions...I have an "Ozo" title and its a violation of the "Ozo" principle for an unmarried woman to question my knowledge on Igbo traditions. You see why I said you aren't Igbo ??

[quote author=*Kails*]^^^^

ok, repeat after me:

"Mi name Ali di Ediat. I come from a family of cunumunus and I am the biggest poppyshow an fassyhole of the bunch."


[/quote]Are you not the same chic that is following him around? Smh.

[quote author=Maria-G]jemekene, imaro onye papa m bu.....[/quote]Nne,I am not trying to disrespect you but I ama mu na onwelu ndi ochie no na "Ifitedunu",ya kam na asi ka I jee juo fa ma onwelu mgbe ana akpo obodo unu "Ifite-Ukpo". You can also google it. Daalu,"Ada Dunu". I don't think you grew up in Anambra nor even Enugu. Am I right ?

mimifonwon: actually you are wrong arochukwu clan arent as closely related to ibibio as ngwa people are. The fact is that igbos are always welcoming and marry all around no matter your tribal identity. I know my mom who is ngwa have efik ibibio cousins from her maternal grandma. The fact is that igbo men believed that as long as the child has an igbo father that they could marry any woman from any tribe and they did easily. I think igbos more than any other major tribe is so accomadating to other tribes that indirectly they evolve and add to their own traditions with their interactions. Yes most people under the biafra umbrella, even some cameroonians all some way have igbo blood in them and vis versa, i.e.aguiyi-ironsi. Even in yoruba land according to my grandpa, people from ijebu igbo intermarried with igbos a lot and not a lot of igbos or southern nigerians can claim one pure tribal identity,neither can people from jos, the best we can do is say, my father is this- for you father's identity is your identity, not your moms.Even today we have mixtures like nse ekpe-etim ( ibibio-efik father(tribal identity-ibibio)), donjazzy( igbo mom- urohbo father( tribal identity-urohbo)), Mikel obi ( hausa fulani mother, father igbo(tribal identity-igbo)) joseph benjamin( igbo mom- yoruba dad-tribal identity- yoruba), Desmond elliot( igbo mom- yoruba father- tribal identity-yoruba) ( segun arinze- igbo dad,yoruba mom- tribal identity igbo). So you see what am saying about mixtures, things you wouldnt know unless they told you. But there also the believe in most african tradition that a woman has no tribal identity until she marries, so what ever her husband is is what she is. Just like edo people are cousins to yorubas, urohbos,efik-kalabari, ibibios are cousins to the igbos. The users of the nsibidi text are all related.So go figure.

Where did you get these rubbish from? Mikel Obi's mumm is an Igbo woman from Anambra. We Anambrarians don't even accept other Igbos in marriage talk more of non Igbo. Ask Imolites ....You meant Imo, Abia,River and Anioma intermarry a lot ?? And no,the Nri are not cousins to all these ethnic groups you mentioned above.I think you shoild just concentrate on "Ngwa" because it seems like that's all you know about. You are a YORUBA little girl and I consider it an insult whenever you talk like you are an authority in Igbo history. This is the height of disrespectfulnessn! Is this what your mumm taught you??

[quote author=Maria-G] Ifitedunu, actually[/quote]Ifitedunu was a recent adoptation;It used to be "Ifite-Ukpo". We have lots of them as family friends when we lived in Jos. I know their history too. Jee juo papa gi.

Ike M.Goretti gwulu sef..Maria,echekwam na iga eso Virus-nwa mama natabazia Oraukwu? ? Kedu ife I na ako ka idirozi sure ?? Biko,akpasukwana mu iwe...Amakwam be nnagi na Ifite-Ukpo.

On a serious note; Umu mahadum ndi obodo "Aluu Omakhkri tagidee afufu wee gbuo gbawaa mu obi...Na eziokwu,ndi afo njo juu na naijiria.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]My favorite: Goddess of "Cut your bullshoit" (Ileke-IdI)

[img]http://2.bp..com/_xer3HokCRyI/SC-YwYd_YeI/AAAAAAAAACY/9G8r6vMro80/s400/normal_%25C2%25A9Selina_Fenech_Oshun_African_Goddess%25C2%25A9%5B1%5D.jpg[/img][/quote]ileke!

somalia5: all i saw were ugly monkies

Ok,we have heard you...Now,keep it moving...One love,mama Africa.

Andre Uweh: Yes, we do have them.

Wow,that's very interesting. What are the grades and which is the highest? How are the rituals performed ? Do you guys do "imacha ozo" ? I'm really interested in knowing the similarities between ours and you guys. Do you guys also have "Igba Odu" the women equivalent of "nze na ozo" ?

aryzgreat: efik or ibibio

Efik...very peaceful and warm..I like Ishan and Benin but Benin do a lot of fetish stuff....Very scary if you see them in action.