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Now THAT Olumide Adeyinka is a minister that at least, has a head for truth

. ^^ una don finally vex

Really though, anyone who believes these fraudsters is definitely a few items short of a proper salad

^^

You people want to kill Joagbaje. This is quite unfair to say the least. How dare you show a "god" contradicting himself.

Worse, you're now proving non-tithers are as blessed as tithers?? How do you want Pastors Jo and Oyaks to eat and drive big cars?

Better repent fast

^^

I know people are always moving - like Oyaks became a child of belial long ago so you people must be used to eating with satan.

Plus I notice you didn't doubt me?? If Jo had claimed something, people would scream - liars are NEVER believed. And truth always stands

@all

The word "sheep".

It used to bring the idea or thought of "foolishness" to my mind a long time ago. Someone like Oyaks likely thinks like that today and has the "eat your cake and still have it" mindset.

Today though, the funny word is "goat. They are devoid of wool and thus, have little value to owners for shearing. They eat too much, are too noisy, boastful (sturbborn), and worst of all, even when killed, produce more bone than meat. I can just see people here trying to assess oga Jo - bony, ridiculous, lacking meat (substance) yet wanting all for himself and the bigger (greedier) goat - Oyaks! After stealing & eating all the stolen yam and stuff, what do goats produce?

^^ interestingly, he says its us that vomits venom while saying John is not meant for us or new testamental. I wonder what they give them to drink. But I am encouraged this site is evangelical -

This week, a CEC member (wealthy dude too) renounced membership based on what he has read here IN FRONT of me. He didn't know me as Nuke but mentioned Oga by name and said he felt ashamed at the "dancing" and lying. So I am encouraged.

When you make yourself equal to God, you insult Him by puling Him down. When you say there is no need to obey Him, you do same. When you change His Word and make it of no effect, you do same.

@Enigma:

I wonder - which do you think is more important to Joagbaje? - Pastor Chris or Jesus Christ\the Word of God?

You should know he is squirming now but cannot back down. If God comes down, he'll rather slap Himn than accept Oyaks is wrong. "Dare2think" has summed it up perfectly - the "world" is laughing as it becomes more obvious daily that satan lIves inside the 'church'

^^

I thought it was only me that saw the madness.

As Fela sang - "disorganized, patapata".

Its a whole load of bunkum. Yet people like Yommyuk will now come and say its unbelievers that are the problem

^^ why are you "stunned"?

A bit more time will inform you that Christ's real enemies are inside the "church" rather thab amongst Atheists.

Did you think the Bible was lying when it said "Satan is himself transformed into an angel of light" - it is the only way people will listen to satan and he rewards his "staff" and "partners" with money, followership and fame.

Keep watching - you go see whehnnn,

^^

This level of dishonesty is alarming. If it is tithes, you MUST "obey" as every blessing is tied to making pastor chris and joagbaje rich; but when it comes to sin, there is no need to obey God since we are not required to obey Him or pray to Jesus or through him etc.

How Joagbaje looks at himself in the mirror beats me. And how people who claim they are not brainwashed (brain damage seems more like it) can read such contradictory tripe yet NOT wake up shows the delusion on them is particularly strong

Mark Zuckerman is sweating, crying and wetting his pants - he's so so afraid of Yookos

@ogoamaka99:

Okay - it was Enigma that said it as above!

Is it wrong? Do you DARE to try to refute it? Can you prove from Scripture that it is wrong or as usual, you just will now run away without your own scriptural analysis or you will be praying for support from others because you don't know your Bible?

Refute it - IF YOU DARE and know any scripture

^^

Did you read what "pastor" chris said above?

Read it and explain what he means if you can find a way to twist it

^^ Brilliant.

I'd love to shake your hand.

@ogoamaka99:

Are you saying that anybody who says you do not have to obey God is a son of disobedience and NOT a son of God?

Wonderful!

So are you saying a man you have been worshipping and praising as a "Man of God"  for so long in the person of chris oyakilome is NOT a son of God? In fact, you called him a son of disobedience! Have you forgotten that MoGS cannot be wrong according to you?

@Zikky:

Dude that said he lacks nothing definitely lacks reason and understanding.

Oh, I forgot - those do not matter - only cash does and even though he's sneaking to use the office computer, pastor chris has promised him money will fall upon him one day so he is content and thus needs nothing - except the delusion.

If the god you guys are discussing with is an example of what it means for a human to become a "god", nuclearboy prefers to become a donkey.

Balaam's donkey would have kicked this "god" to death for the crime of inexcusable "daftnesss" .

^^ Based on this "micu-whatever's" understanding, homosexuals like Odulele who kept lying and denying till they were confronted with evidence are not sinners because they believe. Same with Eddie Long who is still lying till now even after paying off his victims with church funds and others like them.

Best of all, the Bible itself says "Demons believe and tremble". Which means they too are not sinners since they have a believing nature - no wonder they have so many demonic characters in the churches they attend - they stand in the same place as demons.

When some of us behave like Christ and call these people a generation of vipers and thieves and criminals whose foray into Christendom is simply a means to a full stomach, people complain yet what can one say to such as the empty head above?

They make the Name of Christ almost shameful

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why bother respond - even he is not convinced is why the long winded stories which negates everything he says and thus means nothing.

It is an art - this capability to say so much yet mean nothing.

If therte is no requirement for obedience, why is there requirement to "give" "give" and GIVE

Confused people - you don't need to do anything (including obeying God) to get anything and everything (since Jesus already obeyed for you) BUT there is a reward for giving. In effect, all iS free but some things are not free - daft vapid talk.

I guess people are starting to see why there seems to be so much acrimony towards this guy's theology

Waiting to see how Jo will explain the action of this Godly MOG

But the MOG get liver sha - he even sold the congregation too

@Joagbaje:j

These "greater" and "deeper" truths you are taking to America - are they wrong for us Nigerians? Please share some with is so we too can have better understanding.

Please. I know you have said you "may" not want to go into such right now but you received freely and God's Command was that you freely give so please honor God and prove what special things need to be exported to the USA.

I pray for Nigeria - our "educated" youth are so shallow, tribalistic, ignorant and unreasonable. How can you decide a lie pays more than truth?

Do these people have any plans to have children? Is it this same hatred you wish to pass along? Na wa O.

No man is perfect but even if you did not vote for Buhari, when he speaks the truth, you should acknowledge it.

Anyways, we've started seeing the qualiity of the fresh air they chose - shame on them.

@noblezone:

I am impressed by your words even I believe they are not entirely right. Its a good thing to find reasoning people unlike the genetic garbage that calls people "useless fools" for having a different opinion from his.

I think where the mix-up come in your post is the 'acts', rather than the ' concept' behind them. MEND has killed - that is a crime even though most reasonable people know they have been frustrated. "you can't take laws into your own hands". Same with Boko Haram - as those of us who have lived in the north can tell you, the average poor Northerner's life is a misery so they too believe they have been frustrated into this.

So both are murderers. Period. Someone killed my goat which was my source of food so I killed him - what am I? MURDERER!

But something\someone created the situation\circumstances that "frustrated" me till I took the law into mt own hands. That person is the theiving elite who raped Nigeria, refused its citizens expression and turned us into a personal fiefdom.

That theiving elite is indirectly responsible for MEND murders, BK murders, fatalities on highways due to bad roads, the scourge of robbers and thugs and many other crimes (murders).

So who is worse? And was Buhari wrong IN THIS CONTEXT?

@mjdon:

re post#72

Your Major reported to Buhari who forwarded the matter. Such things go to 2 places - military intelligence AND the office of the military secretary. At that time, Idiagbon was MS. DMI (directorate of military intelligence) was also of neccesity, under the coupists. As GOC, Buhari had played his part - report, NOT investigate. What do you think the MS office would do since Idiagbon was part of the plan? Would they keep quiet and allow him get them into the dock to face charges of Treason? So they "removed" him. Later when their coup succeeded and they decided to kick him out since he could no longer worry them, the new head of state (now wiser that the man had told him the truth) refused to have him kicked out. Like most of us have believed for long, he also thought you cannot get the crown except you were involved at the top.

You don't believe right? So tell me - if indeed he was a coupist "thick" in the plot as you assert, why didn't the GOC "arrange" him to meet with a bullet and be silenced forever? Why did he send such information up the ladder where it could have, if wrongly handled or seen by the wrong eyes, have sent him to the firing squad.

We don't know ourselves openly here but you'd be better served going to people who were in "that" system rather than taking individual opinions as fact.

Joagbaje may not know it but Enigma's example of the translation of the word he used to say Jesus rented a "ship" (deliberately implying great cost) is why many of us have problem with him.

He knows we know he knows the possibly interpretations and that "ships" as he used the term could NOT be used in the circumstances - how close can a ship get to shore when you consider the undercarriage? How would Jesus preach from maybe 1 mile away that the ship would get? Did Jesus have use of a PA system?

Any onlooker would thus know that Jo KNEW but deliberately used falsity to sell his idea. All of us use hyperboles in real life as descriptive terms but we make it obvious it is to pass a point across - but not to twist the meaning of something. The small boat Christ used would keep him maybe 8 feet away and nobody would stand inside water. Likely that such boat belonged to peter or a fisherman friend. Rent? Negligible IF even paid.

But the idea above is like an aircraft carrier was used and for what? To sell the idea that people should bring money. Its wrong to use such tricks. Imagine unbelievers like Mazaje or thehomer reading it - they'll say "see lying conniving ignorant cowardly pastors again". Please note I quoted one of them above and am not the one insulting you here. Just reminding you what lies cause.

NOW, you keep saying we ought go meet pastors and correct them rather than screaming - that is what I have done in this post. So please take correction and tell your "friends" not to come fight me. Otherwise, you never meant all of that "quiet correction" you said.

@Joagbaje:

Let's be sincere - is your Gospel based on the example Jesus left behind? Please try to give answers that won't cause more questions - very simply again, is it the Gospel Jesus preached that you preached or have you "added" to it? Add the Gospel of the Apostles to that because they did EXACTLY as they saw Jesus do. Please answer based on that.

Honesty is a good thing before man and God

^^

You and others who live on rumors and avoid the presence of light simply prove that you are no different from the northern almagiri. They resist truth by killing it and your own reaction is to scream against any form of counter information YET without saying anything sensible- just like them.

Mko Abiola represents democracy in Nigeria. For his autobiography to absolve Buhari should bne instructive. But then, what can be exoected from closed minds and literate buffons?

Let me help out here - educate yourselves and stop passing along "beer parlour" gist - We're talking of things that will impact unborn generations

http://www.pointblanknews.com/authbioofabiola8.html

Other links exist - do you think the "rulers" of Nigeria do not know the truth? Why do they hate only him so much? Do you think Ibb or Atiku truly supported him against GEJ? Where would they be today if Buhari became president?

Better wake up and smell the cookie - you voted in corruption and another 4 years of waste. Enjoy your "fresh fart" but do NOT malign a honest man because like Pavlov's Dog, you have been conditioned to salivate at the mention of his name

This lie continues to amaze me especially when it is the bedrock of ALL accusations against Buhari.

For your information, Buhari was NOT a part of the coup that brought him to power. The person who planned and executed it died during the coup - his name was Brigadier Bako. The void created by his death compelled the coupists to fight amongst themselves at which point they decided to invite their "honest" senior, Gen Buhari, to take over. Those old enough will recollect Abacha announced the coup at 6am, Jan 1. At noon, a voice (Idiagbon) again announced the new head of state would address the Nation later that same day. However, Gen Buhari did not speak until the next day - they were trying to convince him.

All this can be checked on the web - MKO's official autobiography is a good start. It was OBJ who first decided to give Buhari a bad name by calling him Jihadist etc. After that (2003), pdp has thrown every name at him and many who consider themselves educated have been lapping it up like puppies.

We've argued this issue before and NOW I find we hold the same position? Wonderful! Patience is truly a virtue

@Debosky:

Thought you supported Tithes!

What happened?

^^ what he meant by branding is what I called the "encumbrances".

They are the cost of your "Gospel"