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Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 11:16pm On Nov 30, 2013
Question 3: I find the highlighted bit of your statement interesting. You mention different life stages and the corresponding responsibilities that go with them. You argue against teenagers getting involved in relationships, yet in the same breath, you advocate them participating in community based activities. Will they not meet members of the opposite sex whilst partaking in these activities? And pray, do tell, how will they intermingle, associate, communicate, if not by forming relationships with them? How do you propose they handle this? You do realise that forming relationships is all part of life too? So if you're advocating that they wait till they're adults before they start, will that not give rise to very awkward adults with poor communication skills - simply because they never got the chance to learn one of life's basics?
I think you're getting the definition of teenage relationship all mixed up. Let me make it simple for you. Teenage relationship is analogous to the boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. Reverends, nuns and monks engage in community based activities but are not involved in any form of emotional relationship, be it sexually oriented or not. In the same light, it is very possible for a teenager to mingle with everyone without necessarily indulging in any romantic relationship with a single person
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 11:07pm On Nov 30, 2013
You also mention teenage pregnancies for young girls with is indeed a real risk. But then how do you mitigate that risk? Has it not occurred to you that most of the teens involved in teenage pregnancy get into that situation because they did not get the adult supervision / guidance when they needed it most? Let me give you an example: A few weeks ago, an 18 year old girl opened a thread claiming she was pregnant and at her wits end, not knowing what to do - as her boyfriend of over a year had denied the pregnancy and wanted her to get rid of it?
The answer to the bolded question is simple: discourage teenage relationship. A lady cannot conceive if she's not in a relationship with a boy. It behoves on the parents to ensure this by close supervision, counselling and bonding
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 10:59pm On Nov 30, 2013
Yes, relationships can be very emotional - not just for teenagers but for adults and even younger children, so do you not think - based on that, that parental involvement is needed more than ever? Do you not think that teenagers, like every other person deserve to have the listening (and understanding) ear of an adult? And in the absence of that, they turn to their peers (who incidentally know no better) for advice and end up getting the wrong advice?
In my model of effective parenting of teenagers against relationships, I clearly stated the big role the parent has to play in ensuring their child is groomed perfectly. If you go through my entire piece you'd see I'm more of a proponent of parent-teenage bonding than you. You support teenage relationship and studies have shown that such relationships erode the parent-teenage bonding
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 10:51pm On Nov 30, 2013
Unless being groomed to join the monastery or to live the life of a monk / nun, teenagers will have to intermingle with members of the opposite sex but how do you propose they do this, if you have the mindset that merely mixing / interacting with others will ultimately lead to them jumping into the other's knickers?
There's a big difference between socialising between people of opposite sex and teenage relationship. A classroom interaction between a boy and a girl is perfectly normal. Same goes for the interaction in the church or in the library. But when it becomes a relationship between two people of opposite sex, there are certainly possibilities of one jumping into the others knickers
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 10:40pm On Nov 30, 2013
e: the bolded bit of your statement, you mention teenagers are at a transitional stage of their lives under the custody of their parents, yet you go on to mention that in their quest to become adults, they seek to engage in adult activities such as

~ drinking of alcoholic beverages
~ smoking of tobacco cigarette
~ Indecency viewing
~ driving (I assume you mean irresponsibly?)
~ gambling
~ possession of firearms
~ voting (what's wrong with voting?)
~ relationship/dating and even marriage.

That's 12 negatives you've tagged on teenagers - don't you think that's a bit much or even worse, you've tarred them all with the same brush? If you in one breath claim that they are custodians of their parents, how then can a teenager be so deeply entrenched in such vices even whilst under their parents' supposed guidance? If anything, does this not tell you that a parent whose teenage child(ren) engage in such activities have failed woefully? And why do you think they'd have failed this much if not for the disengagement of the parent? I mean, if the parent is actively involved in the affairs (I mean day-to-day activities) of their teenagers, how then can the child fall so much along the wayside?
You misquote me yet again, please re-read my post you quoted again. I said they seek to engage in the twelve items you mentioned. I believe "seek to engage" and "engage" mean different things. Also I never termed those twelve items negative, you did. Driving, marriage, drinking aalcoholic beverages, voting, relationships, etc are not negatives where I come from.
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 10:29pm On Nov 30, 2013
First of all, I don't think you're in a position to determine the boundaries of what is and what isn't debated upon. Leave that to the judges and don't undermine their decisions. Now that aside, are you saying that parents of non-heterosexual teenagers should take a back-seat in their child's lives with regards to relationships simply because you choose to sideline them? Those teenagers do not require parental guidance?
I never tried determining the boundaries, I simply tried giving a definition of the term teenage relationship, a definition you didn't even give in your presentation. I had to preclude the issue of teenagers with homosexual orientation because I felt it was beyond the scope of this presentation - I even observed you did same - but since you have brought up the issue in your rebuttal, I will give me views in that regard.

I believe whatever obtains for teenagers with heterosexual orientation should be same for homosexuals. A teenager with homosexual orientation should not indulge in any emotional relationship with same sex till he or she has attained adulthood. It is only then that we can be sure that he or she is truly homosexual or not.
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 10:16pm On Nov 30, 2013
Question 1: I'd like to know where you got your definition of what a relationship is and why you think it's based mostly on sex? The reason I ask is because, according to The Concise Oxford Dictionary, a relationship is defined as:

1. The fact or state of being related
2a. A connection or association (enjoyed a working relationship) b. an emotional (esp. intimate) association between tow people
3. A condition or character due to being related
4. Kinship

As you can see, sex forms a quarter of that definition meaning, there is more to a relationship than just sex based on the topic being debated upon, this applies to all teenagers, irrespective of their intimate orientation or not.
definition was not hinged mostly on sex but on the emotional aspect attached to it. Teenage relationship is obviously not the ordinary classroom friendship between a boy and a girl. It's certainly deeper. And just as you admitted, sex definitely forms a quarter of the definition. Meaning the word sex can never be precluded from teenage relationships
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 10:01pm On Nov 30, 2013
Esteemed Judges and fellow audience, I will like to share with you the horrible statistics from the CDC regarding adolescent sexuality. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), in 2007 47.8% of U.S. high school students reported having ever had sexual intercourse. This is what you get in climes that support teenage relationship.

"Trends in the Prevalence of Sexual Behaviors" (PDF). The National Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS) 1991-2007. US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 2007
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 9:39pm On Nov 30, 2013
As can be seen, through parental involvement, teenagers learn not only, how to develop but also, reap the effect of healthy relationships – but how can parents ensure this if not through active involvement and support? Listed below are a few (but not exhaustive) ways in which parents can help support their teenagers develop healthy relationships:

• By the time a child reaches the preteen years parents should have had the basic sex talk, and as kids get older it should be an ongoing rather than a one-time conversation. Children hear different things about sex from their friends and the media, so make sure they know the facts.

• Conversations should not be solely about the mechanics of sex, but should also include feelings. Teens need to be aware that relationships should be based on the trust, mutual respect, and genuine intimacy that develop over time. Parents need to be clear about their values and what they expect from their children.

• One of the most powerful teaching tools parents have to convey their values to their children is their own relationship. Children will learn to be tender, compassionate and respectful of their partners when they see their parents model these behaviors.

• Be alert to signs of an abusive relationship such as controlling behavior, belittling or verbally putting down a person, isolating her from friends, having a short temper, showing jealousy or possessiveness, pushing or slapping.

• As it becomes harder to shield kids completely from online Indecency, parents may want to address this, emphasizing that just as movies and TV aren't the same as real life, these depictions of sex are not realistic and can promote unhealthy attitudes.

• Parents should be available and supportive so their children are not driven to rely solely on others for support. At the same time keep in mind that adolescents are trying to become less dependent on their parents and will want some degree of privacy.

• Basic rules such as curfews should be established. Know who your teen is dating, where they're going, what they plan to do, and when they'll be home.

• Set up rules about computer use and online safety. It's not unreasonable to monitor kids' activities online.

• Encourage kids to invite friends home, but set ground rules about entertaining when parents aren't present.

• Answer questions directly and honestly as they come up. Your willingness to be open and truthful sets the standard.

• Don't hesitate to let your teen know how you feel and what you expect. Be willing to listen and not judge.

• Be aware of how your children use technology. Make sure they know they should come to a parent or other trusted adult if they feel threatened or if someone spreads photos or rumors about them online.

• Teach teens to trust their judgment and avoid unwanted intimate advances by stating a response such as "No" clearly and firmly.

• When appropriate, encourage your teen to talk privately with their own physician.1
There are three bonds available to a teenage kid namely: parent-teenage bond, peer-bond and opposite sex relationship-bond. Once the parent encourages the latter, the first two bonds suffer. This inevitably mean the parent will lose control over the kid. Thus I find it laughable that you think the steps you listed will achieve anything.
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 9:26pm On Nov 30, 2013
Improvement of social skills: As teens become more experienced and mature, they can reap many benefits from becoming involved in relationships and whilst doing this, they learn about different habits of the opposite sex, practice their communication and social skills, and become involved in new interests and hobbies.
With all due respect, I beg to disagree that they will learn the "different" habits of the opposite sex. Even professional prostitutes and philanderers don't know all the "different" habits of the opposite sex. So I beg to wonder how the fleeting teenage relationship will ensure all the "different" habits of the opposite sex will be learnt.
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 9:05pm On Nov 30, 2013
Identity formation: Understandably, the teen years are a time of identity development and assertion, and dating can be an integral part of developing a healthy sense of self. Prior to the teenage years, most kids or pre-teens don't quite know how to date. However, through practice, they learn the give-and-take of relationships and test out various ways of relating to others. By the time they reach their teenage years, they would have understood the basics and should be much more grounded.
You speak of dating and relationship as if it was just mere driving a car or wearing a tie. Dating involves emotional commitment, trust, love, care thus it shouldn’t be something we just venture in simply because we want to "learn the give-and-take of relationships and test out various ways of relating to others." A teenage kid should venture into dating when he/she is emotionally ready for it. Period!
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 8:56pm On Nov 30, 2013
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As parents, it’s all too easy to conjure up frightful images of vulnerable teens engaging in wanton sexcapades resulting in teenage pregnancies, involvement in recreational drugs from unbearable peer pressure, or worse still, unchecked cyber bullying resulting in suicides - when the dreaded phrase teenage relationships is mentioned – but should the negatives / downsides of teenage relationships or rather, our fear of the unknown limit or prejudice our understanding of teenage relationships? What about the less spoken, less acknowledged upsides of teenage relationships?[/quote]The benefits of teenage relationship is far less significant when compared to the dangers that it portends. Why dabble into such?

Right from conception, even before our children make their entrance into this world, as parents, we tend to be very protective of our offspring and if left to us, no harm will ever come their way. Admirable desires, no doubt, but how realistic are these? It’s easy to molly-cuddle our children but there comes a time in life when these same children of ours seek independence (and rightly so), wanting nothing more, than to be free to make their own judgements and decisions, and these mostly occur during their teenage years.
I agree with you that every teenager wants to make their own judgement and decisions, however should we, the parent, grant them full autonomy simply because our teenage kid desires it? Certainly no. Its the parent who should decide when its right for their kid to be given full or partial autonomy and not the kid
Teenagers at this point are no longer children, but not quite adults yet. There are at the go-between stage and in order to help them make that smooth transition from teens to adulthood, they need as much input and involvement from their parents (adults) as much as possible – and part of becoming grown-up, is learning how to handle real-life relationships.
There are certainly ways to help the kid handle real-life relationships without endangering the emotional state of the teenage kid. First of, sex education and relationship counselling can be provided the kid in his/her teens. It's only at the transitional phase between teenage and adulthood that we can safely encourage him or her to experiment real life relationship
Family › Re: Should parents support teenage relationship for their kids? - Final by Obinoscopy(m): 8:27pm On Nov 30, 2013
Once again, I am most honored to be given the opportunity to speak on a topic I so cherish: Teenage relationship. My esteemed Judges, illustrious coordinators, fellow contestants, informed audience, all other protocols duly observed, I remain my humble self, Obinoscopy (Contestant 2), and I am indeed honored and privileged to, yet again, make this epic presentation/debate. Teenage relationship, in the context of this debate, is a loving, romantic and/or sexual friendship between two people of opposite sex who are within the age range of 13 to 19 years. I had purposely included the term ‘opposite sex’ in my definition so as to limit my presentation to heterosexual relationship thereby precluding homosexual relationship. Homosexual relationship among teenagers is a very vast, sensitive and controversial topic that should be beyond the scope of this presentation. I would suggest that such topic needs to be presented separately and not merged with today’s topic of discuss. A teenager is said to be in a transitional phase from childhood into adulthood, he/she is not yet an adult and as such is still under the custody of his parent/guardian. A teenager, in his quest to becoming an adult before his time, seek to engage in adult activities such as drinking of alcoholic beverages, smoking of tobacco cigarette, pornography viewing, driving, gambling, possession of firearms, voting, relationship/dating and even marriage. He is oblivious of his unpreparedness for such adult activities, thus the need for his parent to guide him appropriately lest he falls. The parent should NEVER support him in his quest for such adult activities especially that which concerns the topic of discuss: Teenage relationship. Although I understand the need for emotional autonomy and identity formation among the teenagers, I believe they can wait till their eighteenth year before they could experiment with such idea of emotional autonomy and sexual identity via teenage relationship.

A teenager’s foray into romantic relationships could be very dangerous. Relationships are very emotional and require one to have the required emotional stability/control and mental strength to engage in such. Teenagers do not have the desired emotional and mental strength to be in such fleeting relationships characterized by numerous break-ups and heart breaks.[1] The brain of a teenager is not fully ready for a relationship. The prefrontal cortex (PFC) – the part of the brain which control reasoning and impulses – is not fully developed until the age of 24.[2,3] It is the PFC that is responsible for the control of one’s emotions and the application of reasoning in whatever one engages upon. Thus it is very imperative that the parent ensures their teenage kid‘s prefrontal complex is either fully developed at the age of 24 or approaching the age of maturation at 18 before allowing him/her to go into a relationship. Negative outcomes such as substance use, academic difficulties, stress and involvement in delinquent behavior (particularly in relation to early sexual and romantic experiences), sexual health risks and unplanned pregnancy, risk of experiencing ‘dating’ or ‘partner violence’ and increased vulnerability to experiencing depressive symptoms (particularly for girls, and particularly following break-ups) could be prevented if the parent ensures the teenager does not go into a relationship until he/she has the required mental capacity.[4]

Life comes in stages and with each stage comes its responsibilities. As a child, there are certain things one is meant to learn and practice. A child is meant to go to elementary school to learn how to read and write; he/she is also meant to help out his/her parent in minor domestic chores. A teen is meant to progress into secondary and tertiary school and have good grades in their subjects, help out their parents with errands and more tedious domestic chores, participate in community based activities and mentor their younger siblings. An adult, unlike a child or a teen, is considered to be fully independent and is responsible for his/her actions. Thus he can engage in any activity he wants to, since he is independent and takes full responsibility. A teenager on the other hand is still not fully responsible for his/her actions and as such, the person who takes the full responsibility – in this case the teenager’s parent – has the moral and legal obligation to ensure the teenager do not engage in relationships with the opposite sex due to its negative consequences.

Fellow audience and esteemed judges, there is no gainsaying the fact that teenage relationship has immense negative consequences. A study by Quatman et al on dating status, academic performance, and motivation in high schools showed that students who dated more frequently had a lower academic performance.[5] Why destroy the teenager’s academic future with relationships that are fleeting? It is certainly not worth it. Aside the academic failures that results from romantic relationships, depression also results from such relationships. Studies have shown that depression often increases over the course of the mid-adolescent years, and it increases more for those adolescents who become romantically involved (especially for the first time) than for those who do not become romantically involved.[6] Other negative consequences include teenage pregnancy[7], increase in the prevalence of STIs among teenagers[8], dating violence[9], etc. No responsible parent would want his/her teenage kid to experience these negative outcomes.

The perfect age for one to indulge in any form of romantic relationship is 24 years as I had explained earlier. However, I am perfectly aware that the transition from adolescence to adulthood is not abrupt but a continuum, thus there is need for a gradual introduction of the teenage kid into romantic relationship. In the early teen age from 13 years till 17 years, the kid should be taught sex education at home by his/her parent. This is the pubertal stage of the kid thus there are bound to be hormonal and physical changes, such changes should be explained. However at such tender age, no form of romantic relationship should be allowed. It is when the child has attained the legal adult age of 18 years that some level of freedom can be given. From 18 till 24, the ‘child’ could engage in platonic relationship and subsequently graduate into romantic relationship with the opposite sex. Any responsible parent who wants the best for their kid must follow this model or its analogue.

Conclusively, parents should not encourage their kids to go into teenage relationship – especially in their early teens. This is because such relationship, though fleeting, could destroy the future of the teenage kid and make him/her emotionally unstable for the rest of his/her life


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2. Adele D. Normal development of prefrontal cortex from birth to young adulthood: cognitive functions, anatomy and biochemistry. In: Stuss DT, Knight RT, editors. Principles of frontal lobe function. Oxford University Press
3. The Amercan Academy of Pediatrics. What’s going on in the teenage brain. Retrieved on November 30, 2013 from www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/teen/Pages/Whats-Going-On-in-the-Teenage-Brain.aspx
4. Headspace. Adolescent Romantic Relationships – Why are they important? And should they be encouraged or avoided?
5. Quatman, T., Sampson, K., Robinson, C., & Watson, C. M. (2001). Academic, motivational, and emotional correlates of adolescent dating. Genetic, Social, and General Psychology Monographs 127 (2): 211-234
6. Joyner K, Udry JR. You don't bring me anything but down: adolescent romance and depression. J Health Soc Behav. 2000 Dec;41(4):369-91
7. Blum RW, et al. Protecting teens: Beyond race, income, and family structure. Minneapolis: Center for Adolescent Health. 2000.
8. Rosenberg MD, Gurvey JE, Adler N, Dunlop MB, Ellen JM. Concurrent sex partners and risk for sexually transmitted diseases among adolescents. J Sex Transm Dis 1999 Apr;26(4):208-212.
9. Murphy KA, Smith DI. Before they’re victims: Rethinking youth-targeted relationship abuse and prevention in Australia. Aust Psychol. 2010;45(1):38-49.
Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 4:56pm On Nov 30, 2013
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Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 4:22pm On Nov 30, 2013
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Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 4:20pm On Nov 30, 2013
Ghyft: No offence intended,are u a co-ordinator, or just a spectator like myself?
I'm not a cooordinator, I'm also a spectator like you. However I had the privilege of scoring the contestants as well.
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 4:12pm On Nov 30, 2013
I-am-Winner, your initial presentation was very poor and scanty. You however made amends in your rebuttals. In fact most of your marks came from your rebuttals and your responses to rebuttals. The reverse would be the case for The Last Nazgûl who did better in his original piece than his rebuttals. You guys used half of your presentation on definitions instead of concentrating more on the debate itself. However I am happy with the references you included, it goes to show you acknowledged the materials you sourced during your preparation for this debate.

On the overall, I say kudos to you all. You all did great. You are all winners!
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 4:03pm On Nov 30, 2013
I want to say a big thank you to all the participants today. You all did great! I certainly learnt a lot from you guys. Weldone!

Getrichfast, your presentation was okay. Your statistics were apt and informative. You also tried in your response to rebuttals, however you failed to address some salient holes that were punctured by your opponents in their rebuttals. Most importantly was whether the etighi dances and the likes were actually a product of western culture or not.

Elliotwitz, for me, your presentation was the best among the four participants. Your initial piece did all the work for you that I found it hard to find any fault. I also think there weren't much rebuttals on your end because your opponents couldn't find much fault as well this resultant made you e not actively involved in the rebuttal stage. I however felt you should have attacked your opponents points more aggressively even if they didn't attack yours.
Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 3:53pm On Nov 30, 2013
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Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:49pm On Nov 30, 2013
[quote author=The Last Nazgûl]No, I am not as I do not seek undermine the ingenious contributions of the oriental culture(acupuncture et al) and sundry other cultures, that'll be a fallacy of the worst sort. However, the giant strides of Europeans such as William Rottengen ( Discovery of X-rays), Pierre and Marie Curie, Evangelista Toricelli, Alexander Fleming and sundry others cannot be ignored.
The Western hemisphere I admit is not the birthplace of civilisation, no culture can lay claim to that as civilization is a hybrid of several cultures.[/quote]Thanks for this wonderful response. Although it came rather late.
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:29pm On Nov 30, 2013
[quote author=I-am-Winner]Thank You Sir!

western culture has helped to avert evils. Proofs include aborting the inhumane killing of Twins, stopped the osu caste system which occurred in the eastern parts of nigeria whereby certain groups of people were refered to as osu. They were thoroughly discriminated and were called names slaves,outcast, untouchable. Stopped the burying of people alive. This was done in the past to appease the gods.

As for the equality issue, western civilization has tried through channels as education and christainity to abolish the various beliefs that existed in the various ethnic groups existing in nigeria and make all of them have new beliefs which are good thus creating equality.[/quote]Ok thanks
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:22pm On Nov 30, 2013
Elliotwiz1: before now civilization was concentrated in africa. the countries around the meditarn was the centre of civilization. egypt precisely. e.g the greatest architects were on african soil. they built the pyramids and dams. people from everywhere came to acquire wisdom from africa.
Okay thanks for your clarification.
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:18pm On Nov 30, 2013
[quote author=The Last Nazgûl] Medicare has moved from the realm of applying herbal poultices to wounds and sundry other ailments to modern treatment techniques-antifungal drugs, antibiotics, anti-venom, to mention a few. Infrastructure has moved past the phase of mud houses to that of glorious edifices,skyscrapers, villas et al.[/quote]Are you saying that the modern treatment techniques were all a result of western culture? Certainly our Asian and middle-east brothers contributed their lots, don't you think? I also observed you equated western culture with civilization. There are several school of thoughts who argued that civilization began here in Africa. Whats your take on that?
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:11pm On Nov 30, 2013
[quote author=I-am-Winner]Western culture has not only removed many evils from our society but has also made concerted efforts to bring in equality among all people of the country.[/quote]Please can you clarify how western culture has ensured the bolded?
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:06pm On Nov 30, 2013
getrichfast: rightly asked. But i want to counter your question with another. Is this dance of cultural origin, or of social origin as a result of the so called western civilization??
I find it odd that you are replying my question with a question grin. I am not a fellow contestant, I just need some clarifications to enable me grade your presentation effectively. However I will reply your question to the best of my knowledge. I know Etighi is a dance form either Calabar or Akwa Ibom. The dance has been in existence for a while even before the popularity of the disco and break dance. However it was not popular until now. Azonto is a Ghanian dance and not a werstern dance. As regards Alingo, well I know it was coined by Africans, not sure of its origin though.
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 3:01pm On Nov 30, 2013
Elliotwitz: Presently, to be African is to be backward and untouched by the wind
of civilization and modernity. Yet years before the east or west,
Africa was the centre of the universe, the beginning of mankind and the source of all living things
.
Please could you throw more light at the bolded?
Education › Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:: WiNNER: UNIBEN by Obinoscopy(m): 2:53pm On Nov 30, 2013
Getrichfast: In conclusion, another area affected greatly is our mode of dance. Before now, we all cherished our different cultural dances, but now that has been thrown to the dogs and the likes of dances like ‘alingo’, “azonto”, ‘break-dance’, ‘etigi’, etc are now making waves. Our culture is gradually fading away, and the western civilization is to be blamed for this.
I understand you have addressed the rebuttals on this aspect. However the topic of discussion is on western civilisation, if I'm not mistaken. So whats the correlation between the bolded and western civilization? Isn't those dances in the bolded not an example of African dances as opposed to the western dances like the break-dance?
Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 1:44pm On Nov 30, 2013
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Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 1:11pm On Nov 30, 2013
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Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 1:09pm On Nov 30, 2013
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Forum Games › Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Obinoscopy(mod): 1:08pm On Nov 30, 2013
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