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Are you insinuating that technology is a sin? If that's the case, maybe we should dump the bible books for good old ancient scrolls. |
omanifrank:And what's wrong with what they're wearing? How about you mind your damn biz, Aproko? Congrats to the newly weds. Aproko, go get a job. |
*GMB has done NOTHING/NADA/zilch. We don't even have a new power policy or even Minister. If praise is to go to anyone, it is GEJ for the improvements/upgrades. Until GMB surpasses GEJ'S installed generating capacity and actual generated power (5000MW and above), then know that GMB hasn't done zilch. *Current improvements have absolutely nothing to do with the water levels at Kianji, Shiroro, and co. A majority of our power plants are GAS - fired plants, NOT hydroelectric plants. *This has nothing to do with the "fear of GMB". |
zik4ever:Same way you accepted GEJ and accorded him the respect he deserved? |
ALISMILE:And who told you the DSS conceal themselves in their offices? What do you think Intelligence officers, particularly field officers do? You think Intelligence gathering, particularly HUMINT, is easy compared to Operations (overt ones in particular)? And yes the DSS are equipped with far more sophisticated weapons than the Police and Army. The only plus with the AK/Type 56-2s is its ease of use, reliability, and much heavier caliber (chambers 7.62 rounds compared to the NATO 5.56 cal rounds chambered by most DSS rifles). |
ALISMILE:IT'S A LIE!! Watch the video again! The officer in black polo-shirt and baseball cap with his side arm/pistol drawn, on one knee and beside the Channels TV reporter lying on the ground was DSS, NOT Police. |
I thought he was selling off the presidential jets. Especially after the APC castigated GEJ for the fleet. |
pacino26:Uhmmm....THAT is not my post. I don't recall posting that. And did I just read that the Police SIB are better than the DSS?! Those jokers?! Forget about Police Protection Detail oh! If it comes to crowd control or direct action ops, maybe. But VIP protection?! Yeah right. |
ZeezaRapture:Leave GEJ out if it. Is he the president? |
Reference:You've not been following the news. The new DSS tram for Aso Rock were replaced with Army Intelligence personnel. And yes they wear mufti too. |
[quote author=ALISMILE post=34733744]thee military itselve wields d AK 47 as well! Are u sayin d SSS wields beta rifles dan d milittary? Will check on d superioty of these weapons u mentioned! U comparing d DSS to d police is quite laughable! D DSS is supposed to be secretive in style of ops while d police are expected to be overt! This makes the police more vulnerable! I stand to be corrected that d challenges faced and dealt wit and d achievements by a single busy Police division, by mile, surpasses those of an entire state command of d dss!wat re their acheivments? Let's face it! How many cases ve they susessfully prosecuted in court? How many times ve dey gained convictions even in terrorism related cases! For me d dss is jus an empty and overrated org. And sure this admn re wiser to it! There is room no longer fro sycophancy and high service which d DSS is well known for! The is d time of practicability, expectations and results! For now let d dss be on their own and allow d Mintel and d SIB take charge of security if Aso rock!weaponry THAT IS MY EXACT POINT!! The DSS owns FAR MORE SOPHISTICATED weaponry than the Police and Army COMBINED! The only military service that comes close in sophistication of light arms is the Nigerian Navy SBS (Naval Special Forces). The case of the Nigerian Army light arms-wise is even worse. The Army's standard issue rifle is the Nigerian copy of the older Chinese Type 56 rifle (OBJ-006). It's only Army Special Forces (72nd Mobile Strike Force to be exact) that were issued modernized and upgraded Polish Beryl rifles, and even that is old as the Poles themselves have now opted for the latest MBSB rifle. Even the DSS fields the FN-MInimi/SAW compared to the Police ( only NPF Marine Police are armed with GPMGs and PKMs on their speed boats). And you'll probably not hear about DSS feats. They work in the shadows as secrecy is their number one watch word. |
joystickextendr:I don't think those are DSS. They're NAIC. |
Good Lord...These new Nigerian Army Intelligence Corp chaps surrounding the president don't look as smart looking as the DSS agents. Tell them to at least invest in a Lil wardrobe allowance abeg. |
Btw ALISMILE, the DSS is not the only service tasked with Intelligence gathering. There are: National Intelligence Agency (NIA) : Foreign Intelligence Department of State Service (DSS): Domestic Intelligence Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA): Military Intelligence Police Intelligence Bureau (IB): Criminal Intelligence Every intelligence gathered by these services are then collated by the Joint Intelligence Board (JIB) of the ONSA and presented during National Security Council meetings. |
ALISMILE:We are talking about CLOSE PROTECTION SERVICE here and the best service for that, NOT THE PERFORMANCE OF EACH SERVICE IN ELECTION MONITORING. There was a reason previous President's like OBJ relied SOLELY on the DSS. Personally, I've had to rely on Police protection on numerous, but I can CATEGORICALLY tell you that you're as good as being on your own with cops. The DSS is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT BEAST. This Intelligence Service receives some of the very best training not only in intelligence gathering but also close protection as it is their 2nd PRIMARY ROLE, and are equipped with far more sophisticated firearms than the Police. For example, an average NPF SPU or MOPOL cop is armed with a Type 56 -2 rifle or Isreali modernised AKs with M-4 styled butt stocks and 2 Mags MAX. THAT IS IT. An averaged DSS agent is armed with either the modern Tavor CTAR-21 or FN-P90 or FN-FS2000 or the Galil Ace carbine or Steyr Aug rifle as a primary weapon AND a side arm/pistol as a secondary weapon. In hand-2 - hand I can categorically tell you that MOST cops, if not all (with their pot bellies), are not good at all, even in local wrestling. An average DSS agent on the other hand is quite versed with Isreali Krav Maga. Discipline - wise , I will give it to the DSS any day anytime compared to the lousy police force that's now filled with touts. Even cops themselves can't even rely on themselves. There's been cases where DSS agents/teams REFUSE to add their colleagues from NPF units like SARS and co for many reasons like operational security and outright firearm indiscipline. |
bonechamberlain:EXACTLY. I've seen all three service in action. Frankly, I can NEVER rely on police, the Army's well disciplined but they lack training in close protection. With respect to the DSS though, close protection/bodyguard services is their forte and they do it far better than any other service. |
oluwafemi113:If there's one branch of the security services that's extremely hard to corrupt thanks to scrutiny they pass through, it is the DSS. So your claim of them being corrupted doesn't hold at all. Do note that they are constitutionally tasked with the responsibility of protecting principals, but if the president feels that the Army and Police can do a better job in protecting him than our Isreali - trained DSS, which I SERIOUSLY DOUBT, that's his cup of tea. |
Alzeihmer disease setting in? |
superstar1:Goodluck with that. |
olawalepopoola:How about the role of Speaker of the House that your master Tinubu sold out to the north? How about choice ministerial postings like Agriculture, Finance then Investments? How about head of the military (Chief of Defence Staff, Chief of Air Staff)? How about Intelligence post (DG National Intelligence Agency)? You still want to ask that useless question of yours, ingrate? |
tobtap:Care to explain how GEJ "marginalized" the SW? 'Cos what you've just said is a load of horse crap. |
superstar1:Lies again! Are you insinuating that GEJ never did anything in the southwest infrastructure - wise? From the upgraded and expanded international airport to roads like the Benin-Ore road that was long abandoned? From rail networks to power stations? Bros, LIE AGAIN! Btw I'm not Igbo or "Igbo" |
superstar1:HOGWASH! !! Enough of the lies!!! You did not gain from the GEJ administration?!! Yorubas did not hold choice ministerial postings, diplomatic posts, headed the military (CDS, CAS), head the intelligence service (NIA), led parastatal s? Lie again. |
superstar1:Care to explain? How did the SS/SE betray the SW after 2011? |
At the crash of oil prices, the then Coordinating Minister of the Economy, NOI, CLEARLY advised Governors to prioritize workers' monthly renumeration/wages. So why didn't this fool Aregberascal do so? Then again, I blame the people of Osun state for voting in this useless he-goat TWICE! |
nkemdi89:You definitely know your onions. The Nigeria Police Force is indeed the grand father of all 3 Intelligence Services. But I cannot place the old NPF on par training and technology wise with both the DSS and NIA. Even the selection process to join the DSS is HIGHLY SECRETIVE AND SELECTIVE were brains and brawns are required compared to the police were every tom Dick and Harry who can't even pass the Army's PT test can enter. Those guys are the REAL DEAL. So its quite baffling that they've been turned down while the Nigeria Army Intelligence Corps takes over. Last we saw this was during the Abacha years. I'm sensing that Lt. General Dambazzau (rtd) may have a hand in this. He is rumoured to be the next NSA. |
ALISMILE:Again WRONG. Each service may be armed, but ONLY TWO are trained in CLOSE PROTECTION DETAIL, these being the DSS and the NPF-SPU (Police Special Protection Detail/ Blue Berets). And ONLY ONE is tasked constitutionally with the close protection of the President and co, and that is the DSS. But I must say that you comparing highly trained and deadly DSS agents to the mere NSCDC aka Man - o-war with guns is a clear insult to Nigeria's premier domestic intelligence service and outright laughable. Do you know what it takes to train a single DSS agent? An average policeman's training doesn't even come CLOSE. Even in weaponry and technology, it is the DSS and NIA that receives the VERY BEST, not the Police or Army. I've personally seen this agents in action in Akwa Ibom State. These aren't just fit men in suits and shades and ear comm gears, but a potent force and brick wall backed up with the best technologies ready to protect their primary with their lives and pour down a precise hail storm of bullets down range at anyone sorry enough to be their targets. This service put the NPF to shame when they broke the kidnap ring in Akwa Ibom State, and is the very same service that SUCCESSFULLY held off waves upon waves of Boko Haram suicides attacks AT ITS GATES (talk of zero penetration) with discipline and precision firepower while Boko Haram made a mess of the Nigerian Police Zonal Command during the Kano attacks. And of course you'll here about more attacks against the military and Police. That is because they are FRONTLINE FORCES, not the DSS that operates in secrecy and in the shadows. So show the DSS some respect. |
atlwireles:My brother, Jonathan actually attended every National Security Council meeting. It's only when Yaradua fell ill that all that shenanigans of the wife and the cabal around her began. |
Jalingo (Taraba state) also enjoys 24 hrs of power supply. |
ALISMILE:Apparently you're the one that's totally ignorant. Apart from being the nation's Domestic Intelligence Service, the DSS/SSS is charged with the protection of the President, his family, and every senior government official. Close Protection Detail is their forte as the Service was design in the image of Isreal ' s Shabak/Shinbet (Isreal's Domestic Intel Agency). I suggest you read the 1986 Intelligence Act. |
I guess it's true. Army Intelligence have taken over. This is totally unconstitutional. |
TOTAL HORSE CRAP!! Who's this so-called security source?! The VP by right is a member of the National Security Council, hence the need for him to be in all these sittings. So shat happens when the president is incapacitated or unavailable? If this is how security issues are going to be run under GMB's watch, then we have a major problem. |
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