₦airaland Forum

@ poster

I totally agree that there's been a total intelligence failure. But I think your criticism should focus more on the DSS/SSS, not the NIA, though the later has a role to play e.g. Identification BH's ties to Al qarda, identification of foreign sources of weapons and funds, identification and possible termination of key players outside the shores of the nation. The DSS/SSS is the key intelligence agency in the gathering and provision of actionable intelligence of domestic threats to other security services.

@ poster.

BEST. THREAD. EVER!!

Please ask the stupid tribalists here on NL. Bunch of cowards and chairborne warriors.

I hate to burst your bubble, but there will be no break up of this nation.

That said, I must say that we Nigerians are truely are own worst enemies. Singapore and Malaysia are typical examples of multi-ethnic countries. Yet the people there have been able to create two great nations that are now the source of envy. Even our own little Senegal is a symbol of tolerance. But here we are talking about Nigeria's breakup. Pathetic.

Btw, for the so called proponents of this, why don't you ask your parents to tell you more about the horrors faced during the civil war.

I seriously doubt that this is true. Guys, we're talking about the President's chief of staff here. I seriously doubt he's being owed his salary.

Well one has to admit that some of the best minds reside in LAGOS. The state's also one big melting pot.

All of them.

OK ENOUGH OF THIS SE vs SW/IGBO vs YORUBA!! HABA!! Both sides are very green, SW with their lush forests and the SE with their palm trees to name just a few. So pls stop it!

Kai     . Blood of Jesus   

@ Gbawe

I understand your frustration. But I must admit that there's been some improvement in the power sector, particularly power generation. And it's been felt across the country. Over here in Jalingo, power supply is so good it scares the hell out of me sometimes . Then again, Jalingo isn't as industrialized as LAGOS (hence the low load).

@ Blank

That is a very big lie. I come from Etim Ekpo, an LGA that was long forgotten by past administrations. But right now I can tell you that we have one of the best road network in the country.then there's the rural electrification projects within the LGA that was aggressively pursued and long completed. We still have a long way to go, but we're on the right path.

Well if the court-marshal was fair then there is no issue. By the way there was a time a whole ship got missing in Naval custody, we did not hear of anyone being court- martialed

@ Jimmy Boy, you are wrong. During that court-martial, only one Admiral was acquited. The remaining top officers (admirals and commodores) were demoted and disgraced out of service. The military court-martial system definitely works.

This award was well deserved. Sir, you have done us proud. Kudos to you.

Well, I'm inclined to believe the Minister. Over here in Jalingo (Taraba State), power supply has been almost constant. If there's any outage, it's only for a few mins. Then again, the population here is quite low compared to commercial centres like Lagos, Port Harcourt. So power consumption will be low.

Ok, let's see if I got this straight:
* Hyundai Heavy Industry (HHI) president/CEO pays the president an official visit.
*During the course of the visit, the HHI president announces the construction of a multi-billion naira shipyard in Bayelsa state in front of the president and both local and interntional media.
*GEJ and the host governor obviously commend the company for the investment as it is bound to mprove the nation's economy and create much needed jobs.
*the same HHI president later denies he made the statement. A statement already carried by the media.
*The FG, especially the president, gets blamed for HHI's gaffe!

Guys, I know some of you dislike the current administration, and some of your criticisms are well deserved. But I have to side with BEAF on this one. Blaming GEJ on this issue makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE at all. Blame HHI.

N100M ? THUNDER FIRE THEM !!!! Why do we have t negotiate with them when their breadwinner was responsible for the death of scores of innocent men, women, and children? Is the FG this daft ?!!

These cops whining should shut the hell up. As an officer, NCO, or rank-and-file personnel, you must be ready to be deployed to any part of the nation or outside the country on assignment. It's part of the job.

@ Gbawe I totally agree with you on the IG. It came as a very rude shock when the President chose him over the previous DIGs that were more competent. This went totally against the code of the Police Service Commission. In my opinion, that was a very big mistake. You had DIGs like Ringim, Haruna, and Ekpoudom who were not only degree holders (Ekpoudom held 2 masters degrees) but also fellows of the prestigious War College and extremely seasoned cops with very good track records. Too bad.

Maj. General Bello as the new Counter-Terrorism Adviser? EXCELLENT CHOICE!! The general was in charge of the JTF and was responsible for the success in wrestling PH from the militants and cultists, along with the capture and destruction of notorious militant camps hidden within the creeks. As the new GOC of the 82 Composite Division, he relocated his command post to Aba, and was solely responsible for ending of the whole kidnap saga within the region. It was thanks to him that the kidnap kingpin was terminated with extreme prejudice. As the new Adviser, I'm hoping that the army's special operations group and the Navy's SBS will fall under his command. President Jonathan has definitely made the right choice. About time.

Yep. I live and work here in jalingo. Got posted here recently. 'would have prefered somewhere down south, but jalingo aint bad. Lovely, sorrounded with hills and peaceful.

Two cities

CALABAR: great city, very neat and lovely, has a number of very good schools, recreational centers. Definitely a town you'd want to raise your kid in.

UYO: excellent civil infrastructures, few traffic jams, easy access to abuja and LAGOS via air, good recreational centers e.g silverbird cinemas and fastfood eateries, has a number of very good schools.

To be fair, I believe some governors actually take the security of the general populace quite serious. Here in Jalingo, I noticed the security around Christian worship centers have been beefed up with more police men posted to churches. There's also the continous patrols by heavily armed soldiers around the city, with multiple check points erected and manned by joint teams of soldiers and policemen. Once in a while I get to see the black ford ranger pickups of the SSS.

The same goes for the some other states. In akwa ibom, there are multiple checkpoints manned by mopol units, MOPOL Isreali WOLF and the army's Otokar Cobra APCs parked at strategic positions in the city. And then there's the frequent patrol by the SSS (2 to 3 ford ranger vehicles packed with SSS operatives armed with TAVOR TAR-21 rifles.

In PH, the security is quite extensive, thanks to upgrades made due to the niger delta crisis in the past. In addition to the regular checkpoints and patrols, th NAF and Navy also play active roles by carrying out aerial recon using the Mi-35 hind attack helos and the Navy's Augusta 109 LUH helos from the NAF's 98th Special Operations Wing. Th article also mentioned further purchase of two helicopters by the state govt.

For pete's sake, what the hell is wrong with our intelligence agencies? Why can't they be more proactive and stop these bombings? Haba >( !!!

@ islamrukes, I am a Christian. But please keep in mind that innocent Muslims have also been targeted and murdered by boko haram. So it is unfair to claim that most Muslims are sympathetic to Boko Haram.

Stories like these are reasons I will still advocate for a SINGLE Federal Police Force like what we have now, not multple state police that will end up being used as the private armies of their respective governors. All we need to do is revamp the current force. Weed out the bad eggs, modify the current training doctrine, re-equip them with the necessary tools and technology that will aid them in dispersing their duties, and we will be fine.

Not bad at all. I assume it's going to be an Infantry Battalion with a few support units. It will definitely boost security in the state. Good move.

Sure. While you're at it, why not also vote for the State Directors of the SSS and the GOCs of the divisions, along with the Commanding Officers of the various brigades and battalions? Really, do you guys think the NPF is some sort of democratic institution? Haba!

Anyway, regarding the posting of state commissioners of police, why don't you leave that to the IG and the Force Secretary? That's their job, not yours. My only advice is that the FG and the Police ensure that prospective candidates are vetted based on their competencies and previous performances.

kulutempa:
I think you are beginning to take this spending thing too far.   How much  do you really need to mount a basic surveillance operation with an agent posing as a beggar on the street.  I have given you the example of a small country like Israel which has achieved phenomenal intelligence coups compared to bigger countries like America and France, and you still keep going on about spending.  If what you are saying is right,   Saudi Arabia should have the best intelligence agency in the Middle East.  Think about it.

I think you are also wrong. If intelligence gathering was based only on surveillance ops, then the SSS has been doing it for ages, in addition to the planting moles or infiltration of operators in various groups (HUMINT). But while HUMINT is extremely important, you cannot rule out the importance of technology, particularly IT and SIGINT (electronic surveillance, satellite imagery, signal interception and decryption, etc). Even the Isrealis really heavily on these in gathering intelligence and launching operations.

[quote author=Βουκέφαλος link=topic=715006.msg8744363#msg8744363 date=1311059143]Intelligence outfit ke? Do they even have a drone? jets? training? gadgets? the intelligence outfits would probably be using the internet for their investigation [/quote]The Intelligence services have no drones. But the Nigerian Airforce and Navy do.

Horus:
Nigeria should have an intelligence agency that is charged with espionage in order to protect its own interests in all aspects, including economic, political and military interests.

Nigeria already has one. It is called the NIA.

darqly:
@Ocelot- That's some useful info you shared on the various intelligence gathering outfits we have albeit underachieving. But in lieu of the DIA, Nigeria has the DMI-Directorate of Military Intelligence.

And i can hazard a theory as to why our agencies are rather 'Thick'. They employ more brawn than brain and 'man know man' effect makes a mockery of their selection and recruitment processes. SSS? I can spot an operative at arms length.

I'm afraid you are wrong about the recruitment process for the intelligence services. Unlike the NPF, the SSS is extremely difficult to get into. And apart from the tedious training that trainnee agents go through, the background checks are extremely thorough. Unlike the armed forces were 7 candidates are chosen per states, only 4 are taken for the SSS.

Now with respect to the NIA, it is far worse. To qualify, you MUST be a serving officer with the armed forces, police, or SSS. Apart from the physical fitness that is obviously required, you will be recruited based on a number of skill-sets you posses e.g excellent markmanship, communications, etc. It's recruitment process mirrors that of the Isreali Mossad and the CIA's Special Activities Division/Studies and Observation Group (SAD/SOG).

kulutempa:
You are quite right that Nigeria has three intelligence arms just like the Israelis.  However that is where the similarity ends.  Comparing Nigerian intelligence agencies to the Israeli outfits is like comparing a bicycle without a handlebar , to a fighter jet.  And that is being charitable.  In my opinion the Israelis would hear it loud and clear in Tel Aviv if anyone so much as farts at Aso Rock.   Now,  I am  dead serious.  They are that good.

Please dont get me wrong. The similarities i mentioned were based solely on functions. But with respect to technology and experience, the Isrealis are light years ahead of us. Hell, they're way better than the Americans.