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shymmex: Basically, everything boils down to the individual - and their outlook to life... I'm not a big fan of marriage myself, but if you want the best in life - you need someone who's closer than a friend, someone you can share your deepest secrets with, someone who can be your family etc.. We need to redefine the word;'marriage' - and explore what it actually entails...

Yes, the divorce rate is high because most people get married for the wrong reasons... Once we start exploring what marriage actually entails, we will realise that there are more positives from the institution, than negatives..

You're right. It also depends on what one accepts as the definition of marriage since Western culture is having an increasingly stronger influence on things like this. Is marriage the ceremony that you perform in your ancestral town, the covenant that you seal in a church, both, or the certificate that you get in a state court?

Some marry for love while others marry for visas.

anonymous6: Yes marriage is still important in society and in certain cultures in the world today especially in Africa, the middle east and Asia but many people of today's age especially of this generation don't respect the institution of marriage like it was respected in the older generations particularly in the western world. People marry and divorce now a days as if they are getting groceries from the supermarket now, and I feel it has to do with the fact that people don't see value in it any more because the things people preach that should be done after marriage are being done like crazy now; plus many people of todays age especially in the western world are not interested in rushing into marriage and etc for many reasons, lastly many people are having children outside wed lock or being raised in single family homes and etc

All of these things are a result of pop culture and the new liberalism of the younger generation.

If marriage ever becomes insignificant in modern culture/society, then there would be drastic changes: the definition of a "family" would change, governments would have to find new ways to tax households, etc.

shymmex: @Odumchi

Why did you hide my post?

The post itself was too vague - the girl just ranted all through the post..

So you now decide what is a good thread and what isn't? lol.
Just let her be, abeg. Them no force you say you must write for am thread. If you no like am just dey waka.

Anyway, what do you think about this marriage issue? Do you still think that marriage is relevant in modern society?

This thread is discussing whether or not marriage/matrimony is still relevant in modern culture and society so it deserves a place here in the culture section.

Op
I respect your opinion, but I guess the best answer is to each his own. Marriage, as I see it, is an important part of society. Destroying marriage would mean destroying what it means to be a family, forever changing contemporary culture.

Antivirus92: you are still wondering what makes eri not nri and aro the same where as you have not given me any difference between the two. I happen to ask an arondiziogu man, he will tell that they are the ones who still retains the aro undiluted culture,and that people like arochukwu have got mixed their culture with others. So now arochukwu is fighting eri and arondizuogu at the same time

O di egwu o.

You're not serious.

I've heard of people having "spiritual husbands/wives" but never of people marrying the dead.

Antivirus92: confused individual! I am not begging you to accept one anscestry but it's obvious that it exists. Oro and oye and orie? Tell me the difference between gonna,wanna,want to,going to.okonko is a lie but okonkwo. Ikeji,iwaji,igoji,afiajioku are all pointing to new yam festival.they are all dialect. Afo and avo.but i could still remember somewhere of ichie pericoma mezuo okoye and not ekpe pericoma mezuo okoye. Why are u lying to ur own self

I'm referring to Okonko as a masquerade society, not as a name. As for the name 'Okonkwo', we answer the southern variant 'Okoronkwo'.

You're right about the New Yam festivals, but despite this, the ways in which they are conducted are not the same. The ceremonies behind 'Ikeji' are different from those behind 'Ili ji' or 'Iwa ji'.

Pericoma Okoye is an Aro but he is from Arondizuogu not Arochukwu. The original Aro traditions/customs carried over by the founders of Arondizuogu have been mixed with those of their neighbors. Even their dialect no longer resembles what it originally was. Despite this, Arondizuogu (like all other Aro communities) still has Ekpe and etc.

In my post, I was referring to Arochukwu and not Arondizuogu. Arochukwu is the definition of Aro; it's the only Aro community that still has its unique and undiluted Aro culture.

I'm still wondering about the things that make Nri and Aro exactly the same.

The reason why we Igbo speak variants of the same language is not because we all descended from one man. You're making it seems as if every Igbo subgroup is exactly the same.

By religious/political institutions, I mean things like nze/ozo, ezeship, and etc.

I'm an indigene of Arochukwu and in Arochukwu we have (just to name a few): ekpo (instead of nmanwu), okonko and ekpe (instead of egwugwu), an eze and okpankpo (instead of a council of elders [ndi ichie]), ekpe/okonko age grades (instead of nze/ozo), and Ikeji (instead of whatever New Yam festival your people might have).

Our market days are: eke, oro, avo, nkwo. Yours are: eke, oye, afo, nkwo.

Even though we speak the same language, our dialects aren't the same.

Antivirus92: This is exactly what i have been fighting for. I have taken time to study the igbo people,language,culture and tradition. And i eventually find out that the people must have a blood relationship.what we are doing in my town is being done exactly the same way in aro and ngwa. After that some one will come out and tell me that we have different anscestry. I have taken aro and ngwa people as my own blood relations and that's what they are. From the history i read ,eri, arodi and areli are 3 brothers and they founded the igbo tribe. Nri himself is about the 4th generation of eri even though he happened to be the linage of priests and most recognised in igbo land. Arodi founded aro, areli founded izzi,ezza,nkanu etc eri founded nri,agulu,enugwu ukwu etc. So we are of the same descent. The problem is that some trace their origin to their immediate anscestor/founder without making further attempt to know where that their founder is being traced therefore disassociating themselves from their rightful kins. Do a healthy man think that having the same language,culture,tradition in igboland is a mere coincidence? Eri,arodi,areli joined hand together to form a common language,culture,tradition,custom b4 they spread to their various settlements today.

Chai, lee kwanu o.

I'm very curious as to why you believe that the all of these things you're saying are true.

I'm not saying that we aren't Igbo but what I'm saying is that we are diverse. The Igbo nation has no single father. Nri influence happened to spread to most Igbo groups, hence Nri is acclaimed as the "father of Igbo culture".

Let's start with Umunri and Aro. What things do the Umunri do exactly the same way as the Aro? How many religious/political institutions do these groups share (please name)?

PAGAN 9JA:
ok but with increasing world population and lack of provisions in the future, it will be difficult.

True.

Andre Uweh: NICE.

Thank you, my brother.

greateros: may the gods extend your linage! thank u plenty!

Iseee. Thank you.

PAGAN 9JA:
oh really so then all Igbo must be rich enough to own land. .

What I'm saying is that people were never burned into ashes and set into containers. Besides, in the olden days (and even today) most people owned land. Even if someone had no land, provisions would made for him to be buried as tradition demanded.

Revolva: Michellin I feel you only promote threads that are mainly igbos yorubas and other majority tribes here I have been experiencing this I posted a thread about the fallen agaba idu attah of igala which is suppose to be in the culture section and it never went to the front page not until the next day I saw the ame topic posted by another person in the politic section and it made the front page why why why. Are you too slow to post

No one is biased here. I saw that thread and personally recommended it for the homepage but the site owner/super moderator decided to choose a different one for the homepage. We moderators are not directly responsible for what goes onto the homepage. Our job is to only recommend certain threads.

PAGAN 9JA:
^^^^^^^^^

yes but the ancient Igbo did not have set burial grounds. they just went and buried them in the bush. but with the advent of organized cymetries, land is being wasted and it is a vital economic resource.

In general Igbo culture, people were/are never buried in forests. Rather, they were buried within a compound or on any cleared land that one or one's relatives owned. Only people who had defiled the earth were thrown away into the forests to decompose. Being buried was seen as a priviledge not a right.

Cemetaries seem to be an urban thing. In the villages people are still buried the traditional way. Nowadays, some people are even buried within houses.

Anyway, I'd prefer to have people buried the natural way and set within the earth than to have them vaporized.

Personally, I don't believe in cremation. Even if legalized, it will still have its stigma.

In the Nigeria of today, most people look forward to a conventional burial in which they are laid to rest peacefully, and their bodies allowed to decompose naturally. In addition to this, most people (being either Christian or Muslim) would not accept cremation.

Even among the animists/traditional adherents, cremation would hold no ground. For example, in Igbo culture a man's body is to be laid to rest ceremoniously so that he may be allowed to join the ranks of his ancestors. If a man's body is cremated, he cannot be buried (and as a result, cannot enter the afterlife).

The other day, I was searching the net for some books and I came upon a Columbia University compilation (by Frances W. Pritchett) of various works by Igbo authors. This compilation holds many useful documents including free online copies of early Igbo books which include Omenuko (1933) and Ala Bingo (1940), a list of Igbo proverbs (with explanations), a guideline on how to go about learning Igbo, an introduction to Igbo studies, and various treatises by distinguished Igbo.

I decided that this jewel should not be kept secret but should be shared.

Here's the link:
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo_index.html#index

Enjoy!

anonymous6: I try but the moderator there doesn't do anything but michelin helps anytime there is a problem

The celebrities section mod has just fixed it.

anonymous6: my thread has been hidden again(the second time), what is going on?, can you please unhidden it, thank you: https://www.nairaland.com/732446/top-10-most-beautiful-nollywood

That thread is in the celebrities section, not the culture section. Please take it up to the celebrities section moderator(s).

Thanks for you guys' feedback.

It seems as if the main issues are traffic and public opinion towards the "beauty" threads. I believe the purpose of any government is to respond to the will of the governed. Michelin and I will consider your suggestions.

It's true that Nairaland accords much attention to its bigger sections and little to its smaller sections, thus we are striving to transform the culture section and award it the attention that it deserves.

Dear Nairalanders,

I've officialy returned from my absence and will be resuming full-time duty. Thanks for you guys' cooperation.

Odumchi

I learned about Nairaland in the spring of 2010 when I was searching google for some articles regarding Nigeria. I was amazed by the wealth of information I found and decided to be a casual observer. I never felt it was necessary to register until August of that same year.

This thread is better suited in the general section.

shymmex: Can you please delete the unauthorized picture posted on this page: https://www.nairaland.com/973124/beauty-afro-brazilian-women/21

Complaints don't belong here. There is a separate thread designed for complaints/requests.

Don't shy away from utilizing it.

I missed you - i mere m aka nkujo

It depends on the type of job that you're looking for and the circumstance. But For most jobs, it doesn't matter.

Thread moved to career section.

ChinenyeN: Yep. I intentionally meant to write Aro; learned it from reading your writing. I figured it would get your attention.

Lol. It worked

Abagworo: the way to Ohafia in Northeast Abia State. Ohafia people believe they are from Benin.

I've never heard of Ohafia claiming to be from Benin. Please, let's try to be serious when discussing these topics so as to avoid introducing confusion. Ohafia people share blood relations with people from Ihechiowa, Ututu, Abam, Edda and (by extension) Arochukwu. These groups are known as the Cross River Igbo and their origins can be partly traced to east of the river Cross River.

I'm getting tired of this Benin origin thing. Very soon, people will say that the Efik claim Benin origin.

Odenigbo Aroli: Well,your input is always appreciated and it wont hurt if you make any addition or clarify the gray areas....Daalu,nwanne.

Thanks a lot bro. I appreciate it but this one has gone out of hand, lol.

ChinenyeN: O bu ezigbota mmechi ivu. Wo emebiala threadi anyi oma a.

Nwanna, aga i za kwuo ya wu aga o za diri.

I'm surprised. Did you intentionally mean to write in Aro? Where did you learn it?

Interesting.