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I remember Chinenye posting this description of Ngwa history and the history of the term 'Ohuhu' some time ago on the "History of Various Igbo Clans" thread....

In continuing on with the topic. . .

Ngwa

The Ngwa, said to be the largest and most populous sub-ethnicity or 'clan' in southeastern Nigeria, are considered by Igbo historians to be a branch of eastern Isuama. This classification of Ngwa as 'eastern Isuama' is primarily due to the accounts given by G.I. Jones and D. Forde. According to Jones and Forde, "The ancestors of the Ohuhu-Ngwa formed part of a migration from the Agbaja area in Owerri and moved to the river Imo. Those who crossed the Imo became the Ngwa; those who remained on the western bank are the Ohuhu." (The Ibo and Ibibio-speaking peoples of south-eastern Nigeria, pp. 43-44). Now, although Jones and Forde asserted that the Ngwa originally lived in Orlu axis, they remained unable to provide an actual place of origin, but later Igbo historians such as Nwaguru (he himself an Ngwa), began pointing to Umunoha (an Isu village) in what is now Mbaitoli LGA, as the supposed place of origin. This they did in keeping with the eastern Isuama claims of Jones and Forde. However, Ngwa oral tradition does not actually speak on a place of origin outside of the present locality. Instead the tradition, presented in the form of a legend, is used in part to explain the establishment of the Ngwa clan, but more importantly, it is used to further affirm kinship ties between the Ngwa and the Ohuhu (Ohnuhnu). According to the tradition, a band of people, while on a journey, came upon a small stream. There they decided to rest and eat. They began preparing their food (yam), and whilst some among them decided to roast their yams, as is traditionally done, others adopted the unorthodox method of boiling their yams. While the band of people were busy preparing their food, the small stream they came upon suddenly but steadily began to rise and surge. Those who had boiled their yams quickly finished eating, collected their things, and crossed. The remainder, who roasted their yams, decided to wait it out, choosing to remain with their food and finish their meal before crossing, but by the time they had finished eating, the small stream had so risen to the extent that it was no longer passable. The river was later named Imo on account of its size and rapid growth. The roasters, now unable to continue the journey, remained on that bank (the west bank of the Imo) and became the Ohuhu (literally, nde Ohnuhnu Ji; those who roast their yam). This name was given to them by their more fortunate relatives, who consequently were called Ngwa (a short form of the adjective ngwa ngwa meaning quickly), due to them having speedily crossed the rising and surging river before it became to late. The Ohuhu then later came to be known as Ezinihitte of Mbaise, while the Ngwa constituted the Ngwa people of the old Aba division.

Honestly though, aside from its institutionalized value as a legend, I tend to dismiss this oral tradition and the whole Imo Crossing Incident. I do not believe the tradition is meant to be taken literally, as many seen to have erroneously done. I also dismiss the eastern Isuama claims of origin (i.e. the great Isuama migration & the eastern Isuama categorization of Ngwa).

Moving on, the early Ngwa pioneers comprised of three brothers, Ukwu (known variously as Ngwa-Ukwu, Onyeukwu, Nwangwa), Nwohna, and Avosi and their families. They are also said to have been accompanied by two other brothers, Nte and Nsulu, who were their relatives, and their families. They settled the area of northern Ngwa and founded a total of eight 'subclans' or village-groups, which are Ngwa-Ukwu, Umuohna, Nvosi, Ntigha, Nsulu, Ovungwu, Mbutu and Ovokwu, in order of seniority. The Ngwa-Ukwu village-group was founded by Ukwu, Umuohna was founded by Nwohna, Nvosi was founded by Avosi, Ntigha was founded by Nte, and Nsulu was founded by Nsulu. The village-groups of Ovungwu, Mbutu and Ovokwu, were founded by three sons of Nwohna, respectively Ngwu, Ntu and Okwu.

Together, those eight original 'subclans' or village-groups of Ngwa are known traditionally as Ngwa-Ukwu Ofo Asato, and the village of Okpuala-Ngwa, located in the Ngwa-Ukwu village-group, is recognized as the cultural center and ancestral capital (not just for the eight village-groups, but for the Ngwa clan body as a whole).

PhysicsQED: Thanks for the unban.

No prob.

KingMichael: Why are my post being hidden on my KingMichael777 account? I can sign in and it does not say I have not been banned. But I can enter the forums like this one. This all happened after my little argument with MsDarkSkin on the "Beauty of Afro Caribbean women" thread.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

You didn't do anything wrong. You were just banned by the spambot which misinterpreted your post as spam. I've revealed your post and you've been unbanned.

ACM10: Ibadan Airport.

Please just ignore him. People of that sort are not pleased with the progress of others. In Igboland they are the sort of people that stay up at night and plot for others while their mates are asleep.

Once again I beg you; do not engage him just let Spyder continue with his thread.

Onye afo ojoo abiala. Onye oganiru ndi ibe ya anaghi adi ya nma alotala.

Igbo bu Igbo unu gba ya nkiti.

Ify, wetalu anyi nke obuna. Aguu agugbugo mu ebe a

Antivirus92: eeh enyim nwoke nsogbu adighi ncha ncha. Kedu kwanu maka gi?

Nna, anyi na ekene Chukwu.

Kedu kwan maka nwuye gi na umu? Aru o di?

Ogene Dom: Ndi be anyi ekele m unu. Biko, kedu ihe mkpo, akupe na mgba aka igwe na ihe onu(àká) putara. Àká ocha na nke mme (red) putara gini. Ndewo nu

Ogene ndeewooo.

12. The Lord revealed to me that Central Bank governor, Lamido Sanusi and Governor Godswill Akpabio of Akwa Ibom State are planning to become leaders of this country as President and Vice President.

Lies.
Sanusi will never lead Nigeria.

[quote author=isale_gan2]"A Young President Is Coming From Edo State To Bring Peace To Nigeria" – Prophet

I always knew my Bini hubby NL-nemesis, PhysicsMHD/OPP/QFT, would one day save Nigeria, nay, Africa. . . and the entire. . . whole wide world. https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/63.gif

[/quote]Lmaoo!

Also, PDP.

A nagging wife.

*You are sleeping as she wakes you up*

Wife: WETIN YOU DEY DO? SLEEPING? EH?

Husband: No be Saturday?

Wife: YOUR MATES DEY WORKING FOR AM FAMILIES AND YOU DEY HERE DEY SLEEP?!

Husband: which kain wahala be dis?

Wife: YOU MUST GO FIND WORK TODAY!

Husband: ABEG, if you no go let me sleep for house make I go sleep outside.

Wife: EH? SO YOU DON BEGIN SLEEPING AROUND?

PhysicsMHD: Hey Odumchi, a post of mine got hidden and I can't post anywhere on nairaland under 'PhysicsQED'.

How do I get unbanned?

Sorry for the inconvenience. I've revealed your post and you will be unbanned in approximately half an hour.

I apologize once again.

michelin89: If odumchi is the mod you want, he's the mod you'll get. wait patiently!

Lol

CAMEROONPRIDE: what do you mean by arabia? the modernn one as we know it now or a kingdom etc... be more precise .please

The afformentioned Arabs were of the Umayyad Caliphate which originated in Mecca, Arabia (the land mass).

CAMEROONPRIDE: where those "arabs" came from? i heard they came from Asia east asia....and the name arab at this time was a mistake/or just a description ....Moors=blacks muslim..

They came from Arabia. And you're right about the Moors.

In Igboland, the man marries the woman and not the other way around, therefore the traditional marriage ceremony must be done in the bride's church compound.

Since he is marrying the woman, he must marry her according to the customs of her people.

As for attire, it doesn't really matter if the husband is not concerned with it.

Good luck!

shymmex: @Odumchi

The Umayyad empire (Arabs) conquered Spain with the aid of black/Berber troops (aka 'Moors'). The term "Moor" is not the name of any people or race, rather it is just a term used to collectively identify people of color in North and North West Africa.

These people are not the Songhay.

shymmex: They ruled Europe during the dark ages before the renaissance, and that was way before 1591..

Any historical evidence?

During the dark ages, Europe was politically fragmented and (for some time), Southern Spain was under the control of the Abbasids.

shymmex: ^^^^This was the same empire that built the ancient city of Timbuktu, the first university in the world with black scholars - and later conquered Southern Europe in conjunction with Arabs, and ruled Southern Europe for more than 500 years. They also built a university in Salamanca (Spain).

They call them moors in Eurocentric books -but Moor means BLACK in Spanish.

I salute these great people!

Are you talking about the same Songhay empire that fell to the Morrocans in 1591? If so, when did it invade Europe or even reach the North African coast?


Either way, nice thread.

Why not set up reservations for nomadic herders?

Fulaman198: Honestly, I don't know why SOME Nigerians use the word tribe. It is as if they have been brainwashed by Westerners. Would you call "English or British" a tribe? Would you call "Italian" a tribe? Would you call "Arab" a tribe?

Exactly.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Mr. Fulaman the british have lost all their tribes(Saxons, Britons, Celts, etc.) 1000 yrs back. today they are mixed race peoples, just like all europeans.

and Khaleeji Arabs(KSA,UAE,Bahrain,Yemen,Oman & Qatar) have Bedouin Tribes to this day. they are referred to as tribes. The Sheikh of UAE calls himself a tribesman of Bu Falahi tribe.

lebanese, iraqis, jordanians (some), palestinians, etc. are mixed race and dont have tribes.[/quote]Pagan, do you remember how African nobility with white laps and black faces ruled Europe?

Paul John: Bro if that's the case, don't forget that we have enough numbers of yourubas in Kogi, Edo and Delta(Itsekiri).

That's not my business. What does Igboland have to do with the presence of Yoruba in the places you listed?

@ Antivirus

Oyi, kedu kwan? Ife nine o naha eje nke oma?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]ah a hermaphrodite! good. now i know what my next topic will be. .[/quote]Lol

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]interesting theory but im interested in what happened next. did the brothers mate with the wild boar and form Igbo. where did they get the women. now this puts things into perspective.[/quote]Well, he would've reproduced with his own family and with any indigenes he would've found.

This is an accurate map of the Igbo-speaking territories of Africa. This area currently overlaps 9 Nigerian states.

[img]http://www.ub.uib.no/elpub/1996/h/506001/korieh/map2.gif[/img]

There are Igbo in the following 9 states: Abia, Anambra, Imo, Enugu, Delta, Rivers, Ebonyi, Edo, and Benue (if you count the LGA the Igbo share).

In addition to misrepresenting the extent of Igboland, you misrepresented the extent of Hausaland. Hausaland encompasses several Northern states namely; Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto, Gombe, Jigawa, Zamfara, Bauchi, and Niger.

I'm still yet to understand why Benue and Kogi should even be considered for admission (not that it's going to happen, though) into the South East while there are millions of Igbo scattered in other areas.

jantavanta: Roman Emperor Elagabalus; notice his nose has been broken of by White People, like many ancient Egyptian sculptures, because it is not pointed.

He is just one out of many Black Roman Emperors and Black Popes

https://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Etruscan/Elagabalus.jpg

OP kudos for making my evening.

jantavanta: The word "[b]K[/b]night" originated from the word "night", because Knights of Medieval Europe were as black as night.

https://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Set_8_small.jpg https://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/knight_2_small.jpg https://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Set_3.jpg https://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Set_5.jpg

The second man's thighs are white but his face is black.

This thread is hilarious

I'm contemplating moving it to the jokes section (joking)

Nigerians, una sabi make pesin laff o.

ChinenyeN: N'ezie Chukwu du mma le o dobere anyi, nunu anyi nri ntanua. (Izii)

M ghotara ya!!

Madam Ifyi, ele kwanu iri ahu? Aguu agugbuolan anyi nga a.

Na elu anu na nshisha ahu tinye kwa ishi ewu na nmai ngwo (Owere)

Lmao. Chinenye, I ga eme mu m'atabiri ire mu