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@aletheia

There is no shame in their game as long as you're "blessing" CEC with stolen money they claim not to be aware of at that time, NONSENSE!

A politician can return not only stolen money but other kinds of money gained from dishonest means and a Church can't simply give the money back. Makes you wonder what kind of "church" they really operate, even corporate businesses show more honesty and transparency that these bunch.

mabell:
U don dry feel overpowered so soon!?!
U still dwell on multiple ids
Well I'm not shocked, just take a look into the mirror
Ta,

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A half-*ssed way to avoid the charge and still appear "relevant" to the discourse? I don't want to expose you bunch anymore than you've already done your selves. A CULT is not the Church Jesus Christ had in mind when he made the famous quote "bell atlantic" has on "her?" profile, Tools exist to unmask multiple ID fraudsters who are trying to make others believe the MINORITY is not the MAJORITY, we can't all lose our minds at the same time or as you folks call it"pastor chris' anointing"

If I tell you all these CEC IDs/PR staff are all coming from the same source IP, pastor JoAgbaje will come up with his explanation of how they share a "laptop/office" or brain

Christians are not SUPPOSED to LIE whether to prove a point or not

belabela:
One question comes to mind when you see pentecostal "Christians" in Nigeria condemning Fireman. What is Fireman teaching different from what most PFN churches teach? The correct answer is nothing!

Please stop condemning this man if you believe in the same things as him.

As a matter of fact he represents almost 80% of pentecostal preachers in Nigeria, from the popular ones to the obscure ones. Again I think he is sincere with what he's doing. He appears to me to be ignorant of the truth and a product of the decaying system in Nigeria. All the same his teachings are not in line with the gospel of Jesus Christ hence he's a fraud just as are many so called pastors in the world.

Crefo Dollar, Leroy Thompson and Kenneth Copeland do worse things in the states.

God bless you my brother for telling it like it is.

Barr rich, Could it be Oyakhilomen himself or another of his PR staff?

"New ID" but seems to know his way around NL,

Cardinal Olubunmi Okogie, ought to be the one you show RESPECT since he has demostrated Priestly qualities throughout his Priesthood, heck, the man even AGREED to stand in place of a sharia convicted woman and be stoned to death if they won't commute the sentence, Oyakhilomen couldn't get his expensive suits soiled by such can he?

I don't know the IQ required of members in CEC but you bunch are HILARIOUS with your outlandish tales from moonlight about a CON MAN, (smooth criminal as MJ used to sing)

@Mabell/mama bell/baby bell/ AT&T, etc

How will it not be "Thrash" when you've shown  comprehensive skills a pre K student on NL?

I am not surprised you see the BRILLIANT submission of our brother aletheia as "Thrash" because it is not an *ss kissing of Oyaks, I know that dude more than some of you who practically worship him, Oyaks went to Law School too(oops, not sure if that's part of his PUBLIC story) and ought to know the right thing.

Soli Deo Gloria!

CEC full PR squard at work today

A political Campaign in a REAL Country returns MONEY contributed because they didn't want to be "associated" with a criminal, liar, unreliable, or better yet, someone with a SHADY background or reputation.

A "Church" finds out money donated were obtained through THEFT but felt uninclined to return it to the rightful owner because they "did nothing wrong" and never asked the dude in question to steal

Fastforward to people getting beat up for daring to snap a photogragh of "his roal highness" "Church", what are we trying to hide here?
I have taken plenty of photos of the Catholic Church's Holy Cross Cathedral and the Anglican Church's Cathedral Church of Christ without anyone trying to stop me let alone being "invited" inside. Talk about TRANSPARENCY or the lack thereof

I thought RESPECT(apologies to Aretha) was EARNED instead of PR staff demanding it

NO because most Nigerian Pentecostal pastors are CROOKS!

@JoAgbaje, You are the "center" of some of my posts because you are simply hilarious (to say the leas)in your contributions to most topics I see on NL,

If you don't believe every Christian that has accepted Jesus Christ as his/her personal Lord and Savior is ANOINTED, or that "anointing" is reserved for "Certain MOGs" while the rest of us "look up to them" despite Jesus Christ paying our DEBTS, then you need to enroll at the nearest Bible college,

The fact that JoAgbaje actually leads a CEC parish/business center is something we all should take note of because there have been instances here where some of us have taken him to the cleaners/made him look like a welfare case in matters on Biblical doctrine and application. All he knows is 10% tithe it seems.

Nigerians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Little wonder that Country is slowly going down the TOILET with thinking like this who can be surprised as to why? I was actually enjoying the *ss kiss of a write up by OP until he brought Bill Gates into the equation. If I didn't know someone that went to Law School with your "Pastor Chris", I would have bought the BS and as the ESPN MNF countdown crew would say "COME ON MAN"!!

It is clear pastor (sorry about that) JoAgbaje can't even spell ANOINTING let alone know what it means, omase ooooo

A mind is a terrible thing to waste, all HONOR and ADORATION belongs to God not some con man with a sweet mouth.

Shalom!

@JeSoul,


My bad!

I won't allow myself to be dragged into a mud fight again.

The Washington Redskins are a huge mess right now, we might not qualify for the Andrew Luck sweepstakes right now but we need a QB bad. I think they need to can both the OC and DC because I haven't seen anything from either side of the ball.
It sucks too that the Redskins have the worst owner in Football, no parade since the '91 season, not good!

@JeSoul, what happened to the Pats in Pittsburg last Sunday? I know my "skins" ain't going nowhere but Brady and the Pats?

In my Keyshawn voice "come on man'!

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Come out and state your original ID, I see the pattern.

I thank God I have not stooped to the name calling level or the "try to annoy"
philosophy espoused by coogar all over this thread.

<<Better to remain COOL no matter what's being thrown at you, can you dig it? Calling me names over a digital fish wrap doesn't move me one bit, even if it was physical name calling, I would still IGNORE it entirely.

I found that folks get PISSED more when they they get the reaction they expect from you!

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coogar/pilgrim/whatever you want to be called

Sie schreiben wie ein kleines Kind, ich habe keine Zeit für dich

You must think I have the kind of time to look up FAKE pastors/prophets on FB, sorry dude, no can't do!

Further proof that too much use of blue tooth devices cancels out the logical half of the brain, I bet I could control you with a jail-broken iphone with the right app if I was close enough to "discover" you Omase oooooo

coogar:
a harmless phrase that could connote any meaning. the fact he mentioned in the full glare of the camera also rendered it useless.
fireman wanted exposure and he's now being able to get you and your ilk interested. i am sure you have been hitting his web pages on facebook since then and each time his name gets mentioned here, he gets more web-hits.

how does that make him fraudulent? will the phrase "God is a game" convict him in any court?
i don't even know what the phrase means - so i cannot answer a yes/no to your question.
if you are sure of what it means - then tell us what it means.

Suspicions CONFIRMED!

Anyone with an IQ above the average Lagos roach understands what fireman meant except "our esteemed coogar" who came in as Amicus Curiae defending a con artist.

Your objection to my classification of fireman as a con artist has been OVER RULED, you may step down now Counsel

Let's simplyfy the questions by taking them one after the other:

Fireman said to his "students" on the video "God is a game"


Does coogar by any chance agree with this "prophet"??

Is is clear pilgrim/coogar/what other names he/she has used has no grasp of the very GENERIC English language. Du tust mir leid!

Even folks who didn't complete Elementary school in Nigeria knew what happened in 1985 was not a coup but a phantom coup much like the one Diya was supposed to have been involved in just before Abacha passed away. What do we expect from a know it all later day Lawyer?

As Fela talk " TDTMN- teacher don't teach me nonsense" or maybe this is your own "demostration of craze"

Your posts are hilarious at best and remind me of what they used to say about English women- Conservatives by day, Liberals at night and 9 months later, they end up in Labor.

Shalom!

^^^

Don't forget Nigeria's Public Servants are forbidden by law from owning businesses! The "Defense house" in Lagos went up in flames for nothing I guess! Abeg make we leave this woman jare, ko worth time ta spend lori e!

Name calling is Elementary school at best pre K if you ask me, we need to stop trying to reason with pilgrim- I mean coogar.

Based on her position, Vatsa planned a coup, Dele Giwa was bombed by Anini, Arishekola got those contracts based on MERIT, Abacha would have been tried or made to give up some money if he were ALIVE, Mrs. Ibru was wrongly accussed, Erastus Akingbola is a great pastor, etc.

I forgot he/she wasn't defending Buhari but IBB but I digress!

Don't worry about what I drink, heck I can decide to drink "cheap liquor" "eja le eja je"  

I would like to see another poster on here who doesn't think coogar is acting like a wingnut

@belabela,

take it easy on our people my brother, poverty and the hunger to make it or die trying has completely wiped out any logical thinking on their part. It even looks like the logical sector of their brains has been replaced by GREED($$$$) so I feel sorry for them to say the least. They believe that by holding him in high esteem and showing him adoration, they'll be there someday too.

Ask a Nigerian if they would rather remain poor and make Heaven and they just might surprise you with "let me have the money first now", you see "1wiseman" with a Masters degree in something befending this rogue because he is a member of his Church and the crew of this piece "wre outside smoking", smoking just like drinking soda or anything other than water may be bad for your health but that doesn't disqualify one as a Christian.

I felt like slapping those women singing "we love you daddy" or the local pastor fireman picked "from the gutter" who bought "3 cars, gold watches, designer wear" in a short time, the SCAM goes on!

@OP ogoamaka(I thought Ogo was a woman's name in Iboland)

You can worship your "MOGs" all you want but I wouold much rather worship Jesus Christ who warned us to beware of WOLVES in sheep's clothing, they teach you in the Nigerian way never to "question success" if you want to get there some day, they've got you in mental Slavery my brother.

"Be ye wise as serpents and gentle as doves" is what our Lord Jesus Christ admonished us to do so I would much rather follow his lead than your "pastor Chris", thank you very much.

Where is your Berean hat my friend? Remember Paul said to "test every Spirit"? you want me to believe "pastor Chris" knows more than Paul? If the good people of Berea fact-checked Paul's teachings, why can't I look at "pastor Chris" or any other Nigerian prosperity preacher with a MAGNIFYING glass?

Pitch your tent man and I hope it is with our Lord Jesus Christ!

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We need to just IGNORE this "coogar" of a lady, (reminds me of an NL veteran who has so many names and argues on the WRONG side of the ISLE just for fun, know who I am talking about )

By HER estimation, IBB wasn't corrupt neither were people killed (some misteriously) under his regime, I guess if he had a quid pro quo relationship with Julius Berger, it wouldn't be corrupt by her "Lawyerly" standards.

Arishekola didn't make any money from IBB via the war in Liberia and Sierra Leone as far as "coogar" is concerned, he must have built that 50 billion Naira mansion from selling "Datsun" in those days.

Let's put her on the permanent IGNORE list(until she comes back in another ID) because as our parents used to say-"never argue with a FOOL because they will drag you to their level and beat you with experience"

The only inacuracy I find in the video was the 150,000 pounds claim from his yellow SUVs which I don't think would add up to that considering they were not new trucks.

I am beginning to wonder where this "coogar" lady recieved her "(mis)education" haba!

I can't wait for you to tell us that Seyi Rhodes put the " God is a game" quote in his mouth, it was "film trick" used by the producers to make him appear to be uttering such BLASPHEMY on camera.

Does the "my people perish for lack of knowledge" line mean anything to you? NL has been about to put a HUGE dent on fake pastors' wallets and as Sonny Okosuns used to sing, "the struggle continues".

I guess using his receptionist to fake his "driving out demons" was Seyi Rhodes' fault as well, you might need to take your head out of the sand or better yet, your rear to fully grasp the full impact of this video.

They need to be EXPOSED wherever they may be! it is our mission and charge to save our people from IGNORANCE.

"coogar" an ASPRIRING pastor by any chance

@jidewin

I am not a farmer, owns no livestock, neither do I own a vineyard anywhere.

Unlike Abram, I have not had to fight any WAR on behalf of anyone or Country so the very idea of donating 10% of the war booty as tithe doesn't apply here.

Malachi was not addressed to me because I am neither a Priest in a Temple nor am I an occupant of the land god gave the Children of Jacob. By old Testament standards, I would be called a Gentile.

Your Old testament questions are here by rendered NULL and VOID (trite to say the least)

Are your Pastors (MOGs) from the tribe of Levi? Did anyone other than the Levites collect the tithe in Isreal in those days?

What does the DEBT paid by Jesus Christ on the Cross mean to you as a Christian?

Show an instance of someone who had no crops, livestock, etc paying tithe in the Bible.

Shagamite is WRONG about the Holy Bible!

That is no EXCUSE for the likes of "coogar" to defend the indefensible neither will you half -*ssed attempt to insult anyone, call me a TOOL for JESUS and I'll be fine with that, other than that, your so called "billionaires" in every corner of Lagos can't afford my services.

This video has drawn CONDEMNATION on every forum I've seen it only for this coogar lady to be defending it, I mean we expect such from JoAgbaje but we hardly knew ye lady.


God will protect his own, we do need more BEREAN Christians to take these scammers out of business!

No one need to take dr. firehose seriously because it is clear to SANE people that he is a scammer. He is repeating what other successful Gospel scammers like CD, TDJ, JO, KC, JH, etc have said in the past because Jesus wouldn't need a treasurer (Judas Iscariot) if he wasn't rich.

We need to keep him and folks like him in our prayers, we can't forget the THOUSANDS these scammers are leading to the path of destruction either.

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Long winded GARBAGE!

This "coogar" dude/woman might be dr. fireman's NL ID, how else could any SANE person defend that nonsense? Poverty really is a disease that infects the brain cells making them redundant.

I will not even dash this scammer my urine let alone hard-earned cash.

^^^ Well said my brother.

Many of us seem unaware of the fact that it all started in Africa, mental slavery lasts way longer than physical slavery.

They came, stole our stuff, rebranded it as their own, a lot of us really need to go back to basics and learn the real HISTORY, look up the original Egyptians, Jews, etc.

jidewin:
"Erastus Adeboye"??man are you high or something? And u quote "birds of the same feather"so becos judas was stealing from treasury that makes our Lord Jesus a thief too,going by your quote.I am not here to defend erastus adegbola,but for daddy adeboye to be labelled a negative personality,that I won't take,not even from president obama.
Now I see you lot either envy my PRIEST AND MENTOR for being presented a jet while yours don't have one,or you are simply just filled with HATRED over a successful ministry,under his care and tenure.You could not hide your vile.
When he was driving a volkswagen bettle decades back,and rigorously evangelising with it,nobody compained.when he moved to redemption camp(then a bush)you all called him a mad man.Now almost every ministry is seeking to buy slots there.After years of hard labor and self sacrifice in the ministry,God has elevated him to a level "world powers[color=#990000][/color]"can't ignore his messages,then you start seeing him in bad light.FYI the jet is for Global Evangelism and not meant for show off cos my daddy have no time for such.The man is living in the future already.
Go and tell your pastor to work Hard as Pastor adeboye and perhaps,just perhaps,God may grant him a fragment of the grace and anointing as is on daddy adeboye.
STATE HERE ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW PASTOR ADEBOYE DEFRAUDED.INDIVIDUAL OR CORPORATE BODY.I CHALLENGED ANY LIVING SOUL TO DO SO.

Dude, You are doing more damage to than being helpful to RCCG with your defense here. Is Christianity about the World now? Follow Jesus Christ and stop following man like you're displaying here, Anyone that preaches 10% tithe as MANDATORY is a FRAUD QED.

PS: Jesus is the ONLY high PRIEST leaving every CHRISTIAN as a ROYAL PRIEST (including your "MOGs" that accept Christ as their personal Lord and Savior).

I actually think there would be more Christians and way less Pastors since everyone would need to have a real job and make a real living.

I had no idea that Nigeria as a Country need SERIOUS INTERVENTION until I watched that piece last night. To see people become so gullible to believe anything and anyone was disheartening to say the least, such CROOKS shouldn't be allowed to DUPE the population but I could tell he had some "pull" with the cops judging by the "Police" escort pickup truck assigned to him.

Poverty and the hunger to aquire wealth by any means neccessary has turned our people to complete ZOMBIES. I would not even shake that kind of dude in a club let alone Church!

This dude's name ought to be dr. SLIMEBAG, only in Nigeria.