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When will unical Pol Sci produce ist since 87.... Each time I remember that I studied in that department I feel like crying.... When wicked men like adedokun Akpan and others taught u and furnished u with bad grades...

HigherEd:
245 first class - that's cool.

If they had attended a private school, you would start hearing nonsense like come and repeat it in federal unis.
Lalasticlala CodeTemplar TheVictorious

sm federal uni like university of calabar Na only 10 for get ist class... Dis is gud wen students deserve grades De shd have it

Hanseel1:
Guy go for church or traditional marriage.

don't try registry! court/registry marriage favours women 100%
don't do what you gonna regret later in life.

Only married men can relate .

see how selfish u are in dis age.... Couples who really love themselves court marriage is d best..... It's only a foolish woman that will not opt for marriage at registry besides church marriage is mere ceremony

If only we could have a system that grade lecturers it ll be better......Most lecturers are demons and satanic....dream killers no wonder sm guys drop out of school....if u doubt me yy ll a stupid prof of education..state minister of education be saying they ll add one more year to university studies...... When in the west folks spend 3 yrs for university education and are better for it....

Nawa imagine waitin endlessly for a temporary job of 30k for two years.. Kai in my next life I will never be a black man

kullozone:
Yes oh! Please consider that fact very well, it's too demeaning for a graduate. Just resign and give one unemployed secondary school dropout or a complete illiterate the chance to make something out of that job. 80k for security guard would go a long way for that unemployed illiterate in this Buhari time.

Then you fit sidan for house with your "pride" sitting next to you, while waiting to go for your NYSC

80k as security guard bro instead make the guy hold the job tight....

We have three plots of lands tryin to see how to used it to grow cucumbers..... Abeg who sabi how I go take grow cucumbers or any nice crops on the land

igebinaalbert@gmail.com

Yusman316:
Young woman, the fbi and justice department re investigating President Donald Trump for collusion with Russia during his presidential campaign. Yet the U.S legislators did not summon anyone for explanation. Why re things always different in Nigeria and with Nigerians? Always summoning anyone that doesn't see things their way. The legislators re the ones playing dictator in this government and not the executive

no mind am...wats stopin dis guys from passing bugdet 2018..... Just bully and selfish tendencies is all I see here

If only people can remember their Alma mater from primary to tertiary like this

hatchy:
Where are the feminist....this is what you advocate... equality and domestic violence against men.

Tonto Dikeh and Co, come and see your people o!

if this is ur view of feminism then u need help go read something....yy trivialize violence... Go and google we all should be feminist by adichie delivered at Ted function watch It...... Equality is subjective....meanwhile am not an advocate of an equal Society as its an alibi for crises...a fair humane world is it

It's high time we stop fooling ourselves in this country free education is scam without the workable arrangement for it... that's yy standard are abused here and there today We have lots of mushroom private secondary schools here and there without checks

Mires:
The reason why graduates do well on getting outside is because our system is demanding in all aspect of life. Hence, once they assert similar effort, they tend to do exceedingly well. Remember we are blacks. We don't like getting things easily. It is in our nature.

Open University, you can join Papa Iyabo to bagged PhD there but I hope you have the connection. Lol

dats d issue we are blacks making us create useless system that stifle pple that could have been better.... If I work I go for a flexible system like open university.... As long as I get due things am ok...moreover I no want sadist wahala.....

Mires:
You are getting the whole issue twisted. Neither you nor your colleague can explain why a First Class from Adeleke University couldn't secure admission into Ui MSc. It might not be that the dude isn't intelligent. As an insider, I can authoritatively inform you that several factors are looked into. One, it could be that the dude in question couldn't passed the screening exam. I don't look at it at that instance but after being admitted.

Have you ever seen or heard of anyone who graduates from Nigerian universities and doesn't excel or top his/her class at UK? It's not possible. Reason being that our system might not give us the vest but it brings out the best in us.

Ha! Baba Iyabo university! Open university! Mbanu

Oluwa blessed the work of your hands.

the guy from adeleke university couldn't scale d dept screening...wer questions are from ur field....thats to Tel u our system got issues....sinxe graduates do well wen d go to d shores of other countries...oga open university is good to go enough of d stigma sm of u guys attached...perhaps if I had opted for open university since I shd have gotten my masters now....

Mires:
Bro, I share your pains. However, be it known that most First Class from private universities might not make its equivalent in public universities. That's if some will make 2.1
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I keep telling those who cares to listen that private universities are business enterprises. Hence, the lecturers are mandated by the management to give students what they termed "excellent" results in order to remain in business. This does not happen in public universities where an academic monthly take home does not come from the institution but from the government. Permit me to say that I have seen so many First Class and 2.1 from well respected private universities in Nigeria who couldn't secured PhD grade from masters programme at Ui. A lot of them after all the struggling, couldn't make MPhil/PhD grade. What does that reveal? So many things of which one was over-grading. They end up being frustrated and raining curses on Ui as if the institution is their problem.

Let me also use this medium to highlight that environment drives competition. The Holy Bible pointed out that iron sharpens iron. If you had secured admission into a private university, who knows you might not put in the same level of effort. I hope you know that only few children from rich home study to show themselves approved unlike at Unical where several students will read even when they are maintaining steady 1-0-1 model.

Finally, finance shouldn't be a constraint if you desire to be in academics. I for one took it upon myself to see myself through all my academic pursuits without financial assistance from anyone. Please, don't ask me how because so many people keep asking that question except my childhood friends who know better. If you have desire and passion for something, please, don't let finance stop you. However, if your passion for academics is tied to an illusion of money making, please don't even imagine it. It is one profession that take home isn't commensurate to efforts invested. While some of us have had to regret venturing into it, some are consoled that it is an avenue to impart on lives.

well I think we shd look at this logically which is d essence of philosophy nd logic we did at gst or gss as d case may be..... Perhaps u are rite dat sm ist class or 2.1 can't make equivalent in public universities...like a colleague of mine who said a ist class from adeleke couldn't get admission to ui Pol Sci in UI recently...to luk at d issue specifically... Der is individual workability nd we have private universities like covenant and babcock who have standard...pple get third class in covenant... Nd mind u the Society don't care about this process pple go thru to get dis grade who.... I know what I can do if given d opportunity bt u got to realize we are competing with guys from different terrain.... I read here on nairaland wer a graduate from novena university went to uk ND came out tops she was retained...so ur argument as to private schools nt up to standard is hasty generalisation........ The bottom line is this private schools has the requisite environs for learning and mentoring....i ll be stupid if I have much money nd send my wards to public schools except things change...... As for academics when the dust settles I ll kip working and go to open university......for msc even PhD if nt for anything self fulfilment nd d love for scholarship....now dat am into security...lets see hw it goes except a miracle happens I ll continue in Pol Sci...man is not younger any more nd education needs money which I don't have....the training I have got can See Me thru to d next level...while I hope for better opportunity

Mires:
Bro, your argument doesn't hold water. Lecturers do not find it difficult to award students B. I know of several friends who had "A" and "B" in all their courses in the university. I don't like revealing my identity in social network, otherwise I would have displayed both my BSc and MSc transcripts from two respected federal universities for your perusal. There is no single "C". They are the product of public universities and not private universities.

I have never found it difficult in awarding " A" to deserving students. Same with "F" to students who are keen about it. It is called input-output relationship. In other words, what you put in, is what you will get.

If given another chance, I will never opt for private universities. I am not against those whose preference is on private universities. But I have the strong conviction that a greater proportion of students in private universities couldn't secure admission in public universities because of intense competition. If you say this is not true, why is it that they opt for postgraduate programmes in public universities even where the private universities still run similar programmes?

well u are entitled to ur opinion but ist it's not true that sm folks opt for private universities cos of competition....wen u consider the atmosphere in public universities u ll understand better...a man had to withdraw his wards from unical when on matriculation day he saw hw shabby the atmosphere is ....for me I attended a dept dat til tomoro I kip regretting if it would have been better staying put in the factory....look I had a 2.1 Political science...unical 3.61 but to be frank it could have been better given the efforts I put in...a situation wer smbody gives u 15 out of 40 for an assessment...even wen u know u deserve smtin u call it fair...a situation wer a lecturer brags that in his entire life time of lecturing only two students got and non other deserve down the years..u call it fair.... A situation wer I graduated 2014 bt ineptitude of dept ensured our entire set waited til 2015 for service while error was done on my results.. Infact all others of our colleagues went for service while the three best graduating student which I was inclusive were ommited in error...tell me why I would not opt for a private school if the hands of time can be turned back.....Imagine a journey from 2009 til 2016 over what...if I happen to find myself in covenant babcock or Madonna...with my dint of commitment and hardwork if I wouldn't get a ist class at least above 4.0 ll be obtainable.... I don't like generalizing.... In that same unical u have dept like philosophy history dat are gud....my roommate had 4.35 in history to me if he was in a private school wer fair is fair he would get a ist class.... If am given the opportunity to choose wer to do postgraduate on scholarship I ll choose private school cuz of d ecology....... I can tell u for a fact that the way public universities are run is rendering sm graduates psychological derilicks... I presume u are a Scholar rite .....smtin I treasure badly but time nd finance seems the dream cannot make the dream realizable....thanks...i HP we get to relate more

Mires:
Young man, what's sadism because I can't find that in the dictionary?

It was your choice to opt for a public university. Hope you know that the money you spent for fee for six years isn't up to a semester fee in private university.

u think any sane person who has d funds ll opt for public school with so many wahala...lets be frank here...a lot of tins are wrong with our public schools.... Except u want us to sugar coat tins... A situation wer a lecturer finds it difficult to give students B is dat nt bin a sadist...a situation wer a students results get missing afta bin released wat do u call dat

[quote author=Mires post=67192805]Hahahaha. Bro let me answer you one after the other.

1. What the randy professor of OAU did to Monica isn't exclusively public universities centred. Sexual harassment happens everywhere including private universities. It happens even in restaurants where the sales girls possibly earn #8,000 monthly. I have a number of friends who had their BSc from private universities in Nigeria. I don't want to be push to mention universities. But to prove beyond every reasonable doubt, some of them attest to the fact that "sorting" and sex for marks are obtainable at Madonna University, Babcock University, Bowen University. The list is endless. Some years ago, some students of Landmark University were expelled on discovery that they were pregnant. The aforementioned students jumped the gate and went out to catch fun. Even in the most respected private university in Nigeria, these things happen. The only thing one can say is that the magnitude differs and could be low in private universities because the owners watched over their investments. Don't come and tell me it doesn't happen at all. If not because of profit making, it would have being prevalent in private universities given that one can easily find "rich spoilt children" in numbers. Even in Covenant university, you still find some students expelled as a result of cultism. It is everywhere.

2. Why will a lecturer hate a student? Of what interest is it for a lecturer to jealous a student who is dependent on his/her parents? What is it that a lecturer that earns at least six digits envy a student who can hardly eat without a recourse to his/her parents? This doesn't hold water any day. As a student, I refused to believe that a lecturer can victimized any student. And as an academic, I still share that notion till tomorrow. For instance, a student chooses to drive to school the latest car, a lecturer is too occupied to even look towards that direction let alone victimizing the student.

3. You said "If public university (sic) lecturers behave (sic) well, many private universities will fold". It is not true. A greater proportion of students who secure admission to private universities couldn't meet up the competition in public universities. Hence, they chose to go to where their money can make way for them with low UTME. For instance, a student with 260 in UTME and wants to study Medicine and Surgery or Law or Economics at Ui, UNN, ABU, Unilag and OAU is likely not to be admitted to study any of these courses. But if he/she can afford some " sweet" millions of naira, Covenant University, Afe Babalola University and so on are sure bet. [/quote mtcheeew

Mires:
Your observation is not tenable. I will rather say that lecturers in private universities are soft and handles students with kid gloves given that the industry is competitive.

Let me shock you a little.

A very respected professor of University of Ibadan was on Sabbatical at Igbinedion University some years ago.

While he was delivering his lectures, three students were busy holding "meeting" amongst themselves.

When the professor noticed what was going on, he asked them to leave his class immediately (This is part of the character moulding in public universities in Nigeria).

The students did as instructed and went to relax under a tree to continue their "meeting".

Not quite long, Chief Igbinedion saw the students and asked them what are they doing outside while their colleagues are busy studying?

As expected, the students told the high chief that Prof ordered them out of his class.

Chief took them in and requested that prof should see him in his office after the lecture which he did.

Chief told prof, do you realised that without those students whom you sent outside, we can't pay your salary?

The next day, Prof left Igbinedion university and returned back to where discipline is upheld. Not private universities where they produced First Class that are equivalent to 2.2 in some public universities

wat if d prof talk to d students sending dem out is it d solution...na pple like ina De encourage sadism and make lecturers all powerful.... cheif was rite without students no lecturers... Ist class in private equates 2.2 nonsense.....absolute nonsense...education is not war...if I had attended a private school nd graduated with 2.2 e for pay me pass going to public school nd spending over six yrs for a 2.1 dat is yet to give me headway in life......

Chai unemployment wahala ll dis tin be fair

I de here with my 2.1 not knowing wer to start from meanwhile my mates I left in d factory nd agreet are doing well happily living a decent life...like someone said see Ahmed musa recently opened a business worth 500 million....it's about value...but sometin needs to be done to encourage scholarship esp in Africa nt every one can be talented like Messi Ronaldo musa or be opportune like miracle nd efe

chineduemmao:
Answering your question; the most recent graduating class of Harvard, over half of the class are A-grade students.
In fact bro the most frequent awarded grade in Harvard is "straight A" to the extent that they began suspecting them of grade inflation, trust America they conducted the Crymson survey and 76% of the surveyed students proved them wrong... got that?

Tel them Sir.... Students fail here but go abroad to do better wat does dst Tel us ......

Our university system is just shambles..... Why torture students emotionally and otherwise.... There is no big deal in ist sadly our devilish sadistic lecturers in public schools have made it so... If twenty students deserve A give it to them education ought to better us but sadly it's creating psychological derelicks out dee....coupled with the mal administration we see in our institutions.... It's a pity anyway... Only if some of us had people to look up to we would not study wat we studied or perhaps go to school full time self...... Upon that u graduate and if u don't have d rite connections u begin to struggle....dee are few Pol Sci dept like uniben that are ok...afta Al in uniben yr one and two de do objectives in which a good hard working student can get good grades little wonder uniben Pol Sci produce ist class every time.... Unical since 87 no ist class...meaning since 87 all students admitted non were up to d standard to get ist class..i graduated with second class upper there..... Each time I ask myself was it worth it? I would have been better if I stayed back then in the factory and do perhaps part time studies....even with getting such grade...i got my final result and certificate late...the question is what premium do we place on education in this part of the world.... Zero except u come from a well to do home or Providence matches ur efforts....good day

npowerng:
If you have been following Npower thread, You would know that our post on all social media platforms are the same.

this is an old post no defend wetin u no sabi here

This tin wey don old for facebook ina carry come here nawa oooo....... If person wait Npower life go tire d person....

Na this nonsense pdp wan front...mtchewww buhari ll just win am clear.....

A situation wer we see govt jobs as d only secure jobs shows that there is a big problem in our country.... Shows tins are not working optimally and no value to humans cos regulatory bodies are not working well... It's a pity sha

TheAngry1:
I repeat, the North is Nigeria's problem, and the north knows it

guy leave north alone....wat are d south doing nobe sm of our elites De connive with dem