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Zikdik: Opolo eleyi o gauge mo.

From what I can deduce from your signature, I reserve my comment

That is how the devil likes them; intelligent, wise, well spoken but spiritually powerless.

As long as you are not casting out demons and healing the sick the devil has no reason to mess with you.

A Christian clergy made so long a statement without a single quote from the Bible but Shakespeare.

Who am u to judge?

1 Corinthians 4:20

when a Bank has less than 50 branches and a low customer based they can easily pass for an efficient bank.

Gtb's problem started when they opened more branches and wanted to open account for every citizen of Nigeria. You can't have quantity and quality at the same time. When you have the customer base of FBN/UBN/UBA you should expect the trouble they face.

GTB you are welcome to the world of big banks. GTB did not change, the usual quality service is simply not just enough to go round.

Wema bank is yet to fail me ooo. A gtb dividend warrant has been paid in for me into my gtb account since Monday up till today Friday no funds in my account. The depositor went back to complain and was told to come back next week. Same bank cheque fa!!!

All banks have there up and down sha

nijanigga: tell me what I got wrong. Is T.B Joshua not a thief? all days are for the thief and one day is for the owner. Now that his yansh is opened,no hiding place for crookly anointed.

You can now see by your statement that you have issues with T. B. Joshua aside the collapsed building. It is sentiment that I am against, investigate, if found directly culpable, arrest and prosecute, simple.

But calling him a thief, a fake, ritualist, etc is unacceptable by me and I won't be a party to it.

Dragonking: Do you know what happened to the captain of a ship that killed several teenagers in south korea? do you know what happened to the captain of the ship that capsized and killed the people on board its ship in italy? try and find out.

Tb Joshua should be arrested for negligence and by --passing the directive of the lagos state gov agency that closed down the illegal structure..he also failed to offer n apology to the affected family rather he went ahead to manipulate a video just to put the blame on an aircraft that had nothing to do with the collaspe.

I love your illustration with a captain of a ship. You will also agree with me that a captain of a ship differs from the owner of the ship.

I am not saying that T. B. Joshua should not be held accountable, but just blatant call out for his arrest not minding if he was the captain of the ship is very wrong. Its the church project and he may not even be directly responsible for building projects, the job might have been even contracted out to a qualified professional that chose to cut corners (I am just saying ooo), but many are using this as a personal vendetta against the man of God.

Please let's put aside any form of sentiments, which you and I know is not possible anyway.

nijanigga: Abi oh! just as like he was paying journalists 50,000 naira and they refused rescue workers entry for 52 hours to rescue trapped victims.
Nigeria is just a hellish country,inhabited by bigots who are brainwashed by religions. With all the churches and mosques littered everywhere,Nigeria should be heaven on earth,but alas! it's inhabited by crooks,thugs,scams,MOG="men of gold" and looting politicians.
200 million mumus.

Well done the only non-mumu amongst 200 million mumus.

Dragonking: If this was caused by a church unknown to the politicians or by a commoner do you think he will be left free? Nigerians should wake up..This kind of thing cant be left aside without the law taking its due cause in other sane countries.

South Africans are threatening to sue TB joshua which is right what are Nigerians doing? Mumu people..mtchhheeeewwww

You are getting me confused. I think it is because the Church is known that is why he is being persecuted. Do you know how many building under construction have collapsed in Lagos alone in the past 10yrs?

Will it be a news moving incidence like this if it was not a church or it was not T. B. Joshua that was involved?

Note that the people from SA are suing T. B. Joshua not requesting for his arrest. But the tone of some Nigeria is rather prejudice in nature than seeking justice. I feel some are even happy that this happened to T. B. Joshua not minding the enormous loss of lives.

R.I.P to the dead.

Justice should and must be done without any prejudice.

bushdoc9919: The above comments represent the reason why Nigerian Christianity is in trouble. The man of God must be protected from the consequences of his wrong actions...even if it means protecting him from God's wrath.

When a so called man of God is doing the wrong thing, it is wrong to defend him by misquoting bible verses out of context, and by making such crass comments.

A building has collapsed. Evidence appears to show that it was due to bad construction. Mr Joshua is ultimately responsible for the disaster as the head of the organization responsible for building the structure....and at the very least he should be in jail for manslaughter....or for illegally disobeying city construction oridinances.

You know, Nigeria is not prospering because Christians, who are supposed to be the Light of the world are busy excusing evil in the name of Touch not my anointed. Meanwhile dozens of people are dead because Mr Anointed approved of an illegality. He should have, at the very least...stopped or not participated in evil.

I think that until Nigerian Christians repent and start demanding greater accountability from each other and from our clerics....and that includes Catholics, Protestants, evangelicals, African and Independent Churches....we will continue to suffer as a country and as a Church...until we realize that evil must never be tolerated.

Misquoting the bible?

please read Numbers 12: 1-12

Investigations should be carried out and the law should take its normal course.

But the way and manner some are clamouring for the head of T. B. Joshua should give you some form of concern. Was the construction contracted out? Is a certified building engineer handling the project?

It is a simple fact that most people don't just like the man and they are using this opportunity to nail him.

I would prefer they cry for justice to be done not that T. B Joshua should be jailed, if in the process of justice being served, it is T. B. Joshua that is indicted then our conscience will be cleared.

No problem.

It is written already that judgment will start from the house of God.

While at it lets investigate and prosecute CAN presido too. After that you will see that corruption will reduce in this country as the fraternity between our corrupt government official and religious leaders would have been broken and the masses will be the better for it.

Something is about to happen in this country, God is about to answer our prayers.

A truck that can hide 50 men

sammieguze: Fake job done.


They ought to be taking warranty from those contractors sef. An agreement to make sure they repair any defect to their executed project if any in a given time. Maybe that will curb the usage of fake materials in the execution of their projects

Should this be before or after the collection of 50% contract sum as kickback?

na today!!!?

meaning: its not new/old story

boy1: dem say iPhone6 don commot
boy2: na today?

TrollMan: Did you read the post at all?

To save you the trouble, Here's an extract:



I've done my part. Get someone in your vicinity to read and explain the extract for you.

Thank you. Seen. And I humbly take correction.

TrollMan: It's a hard Fact. Your roads ain't secured at all.
Taking the police check point away will only make things worse. Ain't you a Nigerian? You ought to know that. It's a Bad Move.

Roadblocks differs from checkpoints. You and I know what we mean by roadblocks.

Can someone please upload picture of a typical roadblock.

And I remember a NL member did an open letter on resurection of roadblock just last week. Good one.

cole265: Same, same, exactly is now happening in the church and that has made the outside/ govt. Less strange.
The church property is not distinguished from the over seer's / founder's property. God knows we shout, cry and frown at corrupt government practices of embezzlement and their not doing enough, especially in the education sector. As a result, they are becoming more cautious and at least, sometimes give explanation.
But for church Papas to use congregation (both poor and rich) money for further self enrichment, without consideration for the poor just like the govt will do, is the bone of contention.

Sir, I believe it is more expensive to run a university than to build one. Now do we expect the church to make the school affordable and the church should again be raising money every now and then to pay lecturer's?
I don't believe it is a must to attend private university. The issue of papa's using church wealth as if it is personal wealth is another topic entirely.
We talk like all the offering goes to the personal purse of the Bishop. Do you know how many people are on the payroll of LFC, a uncle of mine left KadPoly to join CU as a lecturer, so I know the pay must be good.

We are just looking at the school fees we are not looking at the salaries of all the staff. The salary LFC pays may equal that of some states in this country but all we talk about is the private jet and how the jet is to be sold to feed the poor. Remember the poor will always be with us, because some have vowed to remain poor.

If the members (some of whom are on scholarship) are not complaining, who are we to complain. Let any "full member" dispute this claim please.

igala1: Schools built by church funds are called missionary schools. Why can't we give back to the society what it gave us. I ask, how much did it cost back then to finish University in Unilorin? I doubt it cost N200,000. If Awo could do it with the few resources given his region,how much more the Church when tithe& offering is constant.
They can make the fee a little higher than Govt Universities with condition that the pupil+parent must be church members. With that the flock would be full without evangelism.

All na vanity!

Simple. The problem is caused by you and I. Those missionary schools also had missionary teachers. After the building of the universities who will pay the lecturers? Do you know the staff strength of that university?

Most off us just have this holier-than-thou attitude. How many less privileged persons have you helped this year? The Bishop claim that they have been giving out scholarship even before they started building schools.

Anyway he has touched more lives positively than you. And to go to a private school is not by force.

Celepope: Many Nigerians just like condemning anything church perhaps it is based on poverty.You guys should cut them some slack.I am not taking side with this man but he is not far from the truth.Most private University even in the US owned by churches are also expensive.A good example is Oral Roberts University.I have not come across where the owners of the religious Universities forced anyone to attend their school.It is by choice.Some will soon start complaining that his members can't attend his school.Funny enough many of them are not complaining so why are you guys bothered?If you think you have the money then your can send your kids there but if not you can sure look else where i.e Adekunle Ajasin University and other.Anyways even the useless state Universities in Nigeria are getting expensive daily without any meaningful infrastructure and wack administration so you guys should ponder on the difference between both.

God bless you.

Billions of our money is getting embezzled every day, we are not saying sh*t. But when it is church money that people gave of their own free will and will continue to give, we all come out with strength and agility to attack.
Please lets go and look at this year's budget for education and let's see if we got value for "our money".

Some of us don't even reason that the wealth of this country belongs to us all, but a myopic few have kidnapped the wealth of all. I rather we talk about what our government is talking about education, it is not by force to attend private university.

bigtt76: Come on ....money spent on recharge card is a collective summation of more than 60 million phone users in the country. 1 million naira upwards spent on burial is not a yearly affair and usually is as a result of contribution to the bereaved from various sources.

One million as school fees comes from your pocket alone and not from other contributions sir! Is it easy to save 500k a year in this country? Take a look below

1. You spend money on fuel for your generator - No public power supply
2. You spend money on providing your household with potable drinking water
3. You spend money on filtering/treatment of borehole water
4. You spend money on maintaining the borehole ...yes the salty water affects the piping due to its salty nature
5. You pay your security guard monthly
6. You pay for neighborhood security
7. You fuel your car (black market or normal)
8. You spend money for household needs
9. You pay tithes in church + other church program tinz
10. You pay tax

I could go on and on not easy sir!

And all your list that go's on does not affect the university in question abi?

you just assisted in helping the Bishop list some of the reasons for the high cost in private universities. Some of this private universities have not experienced power cut for upward of 2 years.
Also remember that unlike ASU it is not government that pay their lecturers and all other staff. It is not easy or cheap to do anything good in Nigeria.
But it will surprise you that Federal universities maybe more expensive if they are to be self sustaining.

cliffm43: THOSE WHO HATE MR JONA SHALL DIE IN SHAME IN 2015,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MAY ALWAYS BE WITH HIM IN JESUS NAME....JONA IS THE BEST FOR NIGERIA AND WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE BEST PRESIDENT IN NAIJA.....CARRY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Saying GEJ is the best Nigeria ever had is at best your opinion, and you have a right to your opinion. But saying he is the best Nigeria will ever have, I see that as a curse, and if you see it as a good wish, may it rest upon you and your family, minus my own share of Nigeria because Nigeria does not belong only to the vision less few. I see a better Nigeria someday, if this is your vision of the best that Nigeria should be at this point in time (with our wealth in comparison to SA/UAE, then I weep for you.

Mind you I voted for GEJ in the last election and I will vote for him again if APC brings out a worse candidate than GEJ, but he is not the best we have had (my opinion) nor the best we can have (my prayer for Nigeria)

APC we are waiting for you. please don't make 2015 elections a walkover ooo.

You are our only alternative or we are destined for another 4 years of mediocrity. And I say this without any apology, the biggest room in the world is the room for development. I believe GEJ is not the best Nigeria can get.

The world is leaving us behind we can't afford to continue on a normal slow path, we need a radical fast change. May God grant APC the wisdom to put sentiment apart and give us a worthy opposition.

johnydon22: the man is mentally deranged... how can he say tb joshua is a real prophet and a messiah and says again dat tb joshua is d fulfillment of d prophecy in matthew 24:24-26.... which say that they shall arise many false prophets and they shall perform signs and wonders...mtcheeew both of them are big fakes...TB joshua just deh act drama for us for emmanuel tv.... d only place where i see dem interview demons...hahahahaha one even say im na lucifer... chai i don die....

How are we sure you are not Lucifer's advocate, just saw your registration date and your post is this. Very suspicious and demonic.
Nothing new sha, even Jesus was accused of using the power of ......

Been reading much in the religion section on Naira Land and I can't but notice that most Nigerians claim to believe in God but they ascribe much powers to the devil.

Because truly for our mind anybody wey get money na ritualist, any woman wey fine na ogbanje, anybody wey sabi book well well na winch, pastor get money dey perform miracle na fake or e dey cult.

Please tell me if the devil is so powerful and does all these good things, why are you not worshiping him.

As for me I know God is good and anything good no matter its perceived flaws from human perspectives is from God.

End Time Things.

A muslim scholar has opened the doors to what is believed to be the world’s only gay-friendly mosque in Cape Town, South Africa.
According to a BBC report, Dr. Taj Hargey, a professor at Oxford University’s Muslim Educational Centre has completed the ‘Open Mosque’ which welcomes not only gay Muslims, but also invites women to pray alongside men, and even to lead prayers.

The opening of the mosque has been condemned by many in Cape Town’s Muslim community with one Muslim group unsuccessfully attempting to block the opening of the mosque.

Dr. Hargey has said that he hoped the mosque would symbolize the open nature of Islam during the times of Prophet Muhammed, who is said to have allowed prominent women like one of his wives, Khadijah to lead prayers.

"This idea of female invisibility is an innovation that came after Muhammad, unfortunately it has become entrenched," said Dr. Hargey.

Although South Africa’s body for Islamic groups, the Muslim Judicial Council (MJC), says it is investigating members’ concerns of the Open Mosque, several members of Cape Town’s large Muslim community have openly criticized the mosque and even labeled the Dr. Hargey an “unbeliever”.

Still, Dr. Hargey hopes the mosque will counter growing Islamic radicalism, and looks forward to the future.

Source: http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/19/islamic-scholar-opens-doors-first-gay-friendly-mosque-south-africa

poiZon: i do we end corruption when almost all the sectors in the country is filled with corrupt men n women. from immigration to the custom man n d jtf in d creeks sabotaging oil theives and the politicians that ignore the basic policies that shud be put in place to checkmate erring officials n corrupt politicians. even the so called campaign for the return of GMB will be sabotaged at last minute cos if thr r people that will be really dealt a fatal blow with the fight against corruption, u can guess who they r. wont spill d tribe n d zone.
back to d matter scoan will go scot free, nothng will be done sofar they hv admitteed they wont readily moved into taking over the buildng not until thorough investigation is concluded. abeg hw will this be done when scoan is still in control of the premises and i believe at every close of daily activities, scoan treats the workers to a sumptous delicacy.

Na wa ooo. Where did we start getting it wrong? Maybe if we know how we got where we are now, we may know how to get out of the mess we have found ourselves.
But I believe if the president/presidency is corruption free every other sector/person will fall in line.

iterator25: don't blame the govt but Nigerian travellers .. some travel with fake documents and what not

And those that die at home from one mishap or the other without us hearing about it also have fake documents abi?

We don't value life, simple. No any excuse. Nigerian students under Federal government scholarship are abandoned aboard and left to suffer, they too are also having fake documents abi?

free2ryhme: When citizens have no regards for existing govt laws situations like this are bound to happen

Simple truth.

And citizens here refers to everybody, both the government and the govern (plus, including GEJ the number one citizen). Because when you put "citizen" and "law" in the same sentence some people think they are no longer citizens.

bushdoc9919: So all those crying about insidious planes....and so on....una don hear.?

I expect to see the arrest and prosecution of the contractor and the SCOAN members responsible for the building site on charges of manslaughter.

I also expect a class action lawsuit by all those who have lost loved ones in the collapse against SCOAN and TB Joshua.

And I expect some Government officials to lose their jobs and to be prosecuted for possible negligence and corruption

This type of negligence must not be tolerated again.[size=13pt] Enough is enough.[/size]

Let's stop corruption, let's stop corruption, we no gree, all we talk about is PDP, APC, and GEJ till 2019.
My neighbor in ministry of finance is embezzling funds and stealing oil money no one is saying anything because it does not directly affect human lives, I am in the ministry of environment and i am collection bribe to look the other way, since I don't have any oil money to steal, now you are saying I should lose my job because my action affects lives directly are we not both thieves? Do you know the number of human lives that the missing NNPC $20bn cut short?
No problem, continue, so their is now honour amongst thieves abi?

Let's put an end to corruption please, not minding any political, ethnic, tribal or religious affiliations. End corruption and every other thing will fall in place. Aside that it will be story as usual.

R.I.P to the dead.

“But my concern is that we have town planning officers
that should supervise buildings in the state, they are
accomplices. There is no way someone would build a six-
storey building instead of four and they would say they
were not aware. I believe that they compromised
standard."

If it is poor man trying to build his small flat now in one remote area, they will be there with their red paint to mark the house. Their is God in everything we are doing ooo.

Good job.

saintandsinnerz: Shut up, must you beg or cajole people to share the same ideology with you? And who told you the APC is not directly or indirectly responsible for the security challenges we are having? The reason why Nigeria is in this present state is because of people like you, who have sold their sense of reasoning because of a pot of porridge. PDP is not better, APC is not better and Nigerians are not better! We are all the same

GBAM.

A family were 8 out of its 10 children are thieves can easily be referred to as the "family of thieves"

We that seat around and do nothing when things go wrong share equal responsibility with those responsible for the wrong doing (Olaeffect -2014)

Our children will ask us.