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n3xt:
My master bedroom is on the ground floor. My office is upstairs. There are weeks I wouldn’t step upstairs to do anything.

Stair chairlift is cool but a nice bungalow is better as we age.

Our duplexes are designed differently, the bedrooms are mostly on the 1st or 2nd floor.......so climbing stair once a day is unavoidable.....good thing work places has multiple lifts or escalators...... bungalow seem a better solution for stair climbing and easy movement around the house.

n3xt:
Hmmm! This is very important.

My next build is a 2 bed bungalow just for me and my wife. Nothing too serious.

Who big house epp?
I’ve not used my upper floor main terrace more than 30 times since the house was built 8 years ago. It always feel like I’m traveling climbing upstairs.

I am beginning to develop disdain for stairs.....I use to consider it a cardio exercise but it's no longer fun, it's easy to install stair chairlift here as one ages or developed bad knee.... Bungalow is cheaper and eliminate stair climbing.

n3xt:
Yep! Pretty simple.

I look forward to setting something like that up with 4 bedrooms, I am still considering a location in Nigeria.
It's simple and better for my knees lol.

flekky07:
Ok, thank showing concern, this forum is a no hold bared but many people keep, hoard information... If the early engineer that put life to this forum do same we will not be enjoying what we are enjoying right now.

I have known my suppliers for ages tho, I can pay him up front and go to sleep...... last time he cautioned it might delay because of police road blocks at state boarders during the lockdown.....it was timely delivered for use......for sand, the quarry is less than 2 kilometres from my project.....I just call and pay them on delivery.

n3xt:
At my side, I’m still paying same rate.

Really?, I thought it has increased with cement and iron rods lol.

n3xt:
@flekky07

If this looks good, I’ll see if I can get you the contact of the guy who supplied this to men at cooperative villas.

He’s one of the most responsible supplier on that axis. I really mean responsible.

He has been in that area for years.

I’m not guaranteeing he’ll be cheaper or not but I’m sure he’s very reliable and no one can stand in his way in the area.

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I’m talking about granite. The sand were delivered using NextHome dump truck.

Those 2 little bungalow doesn't look bad for a retirement home, the green lawn makes it even more simple and appealing.

flekky07:
This is serious, Naija... Its well God help us. All those building recently too can not help us. Are they hoarding information... ?

I am not building in South west tho......I bought during the lockdown in May.

n3xt:
The bolded part above sum up everything.

With increases in building materials the smaller houses design are getting expensive to carry out and complete.

Off topic question: Please, what has been the effect of the recent inflation on labour daily charges for bricklayer, mixer and helper?
I am still in the dark there.

domwas2:
Well done, please how much will it cost me to roof a 6000X15900 3bedroom apartment.

Slate and aluminium is is cheaper as I'm trying to manage cost
Thanks

Search "how to calculate the roofing sheet you might need for your house", you will find formula to help you out, 6000x15900 wouldn't be enough to give you an answer, the height of kingpost and gable play crucial role in determining the areas involved.

EgunMogaji2:
I disagree. I wrote based on available data from real estate forums that I follow that covers West Los Angeles and Palms Spring. I also did use the word comparatively.

Agreed not everyone living in those areas are extravagantly rich to afford bigger houses.....generally building designs are getting smaller for affordability....but the wealthy in Palm Spring and Calabasas are still gunning for something bigger and better than the previous.... maintenance and taxes doesn't scare them...the down shift mostly applied to those who are cutting their coat according to their size.

EgunMogaji2:
Even in Hollywood the move has shifted towards smaller homes. Comparatively.

The movie stars, business men/women, and well to do in Hollywood still acquires big home with multiple rooms, bathrooms, toilets and whatever fancied them.....they also have get away houses in choice places in Europe.....the price is never a problem...... it's people like you and me that frown at something too big unless you are in Nollywood or helping to chop our federal and state yam.

michlins:
the more doors, the merrier. He can
make twelve doors in one room please

All might not need your iron doors!

n3xt:
I don’t know what some architects think when they’re conceptualizing/designing a house.

How can a kitchen of 13sqm have 3 doors? How much functional space is left?

Space planning is a fundamental element of the interior design process.

Let’s not talk about cost of having 5 doors in kitchen/laundry.

My initial plan had a bar and toilets for every bedrooms, my first question was "did I asked for that?", Some architect just assume every client might embrace their exaggerated fantasy.......we sometimes assume to be in Hollywood.
They should learn to communicate and find out what the client have in mind and could afford.

n3xt:
32.5 is the recommended grade by all cement manufacturers.

Higher grade and rapid hardening cements are not be too good for plastering works if you want to avoid plaster cracks that might arise from drying shrinkage, especially given the high temperature here.

Ordinarily, one would assume the higher the grade the better.

I have not fully understood the functions of 32.5 and 42.5R cement grades mostly used in Nigeria, on Dangote website I understand it's an improved version of the 32.5 without a distinctive explanation of what and what not to use it for........ I once asked in building site in Abuja, all I got was "we smoothened the wall with special cement" and no one was forth coming with the type of 'special cement' like it was a classified company secret ....the professional finishing impressed me hence I decided to ask.

n3xt:
11 bags for two fairly spaced room, not bad if you have good mix and sand. That’s like average of 4 bags per room.

But if God bless you, kindly add more bags (maybe 1 or 2 more) of cement. Plastering is a part of your build that requires to be quality upfront.

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You’re good with any 32.5 Cement. Blockmaster (42.5 R Grade) is not a bad one tho.

In that case what grade or type of cement is suitable for exterior walls that are usually exposed to all manners of environmental conditions (water, wind, moisture etc)?

Badgers14:
Exactly, but we have seen here that in some areas 30tons are significantly less than these prices we both paid for it.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Certain things are cheaper on specific part of the country.

In 2013-2014, a guy I know built 4 bedroom bungalow in Ekiti state for 5m turn key. Excluding land.

Whether people supplied materials to him on credit ,I don't know but that was the total cash he spent. That figure is unthinkable in the East at that time frame.

Before the lock down, egbon me and am they follow work was sweating profusely after purchasing a land somewhere in Ibadan ( i am not familiar with area) for 2.5m. For you to start pointing your hand left and right for a location like that in the east, you should have upwards of 8.5m before agent fee etc.

In the same period I bought I saw prices between 180-200k on Jiji, but preferred the supplier I used because he was closer and easier to physically reached and confronted in any case of eventuality.
But sand is cheaper in Delta because there are a lot of rivers and sea to source from and are closer.
I did my decking during the lockdown, when I felt the price could go up I stocked up materials.......and up the prices went.

Badgers14:
I actually paid 235k for a 30ton of granite last year September... location was Asaba.. they said quarry is at Edo state. The have to pay local government emblem for 20k, transportation etc.

People that I know that purchased 30 ton around that area paid similar price.. was it cheap? Were they trying to drive Benz that quick ? Idk but that's what I paid.

How much is 30 tons in your area (as of last year)? That is if you could remember.

I have not purchased granite of recent so I don't know of the current price.


As for the doors, yes I purchased them after 9ja full lock down few months ago and the price was about that range.. I can't find the receipt now but I did the math back then. The price was almost the same as wooden doors.

I bought 30tons for 240k in June 2020..... location is Delta.....mine came from Edo.....Auchi region I think......prices depends on Location.

imback:
Is this aluminium roofing quote valid for a 1 story 4 flats; 2 up, 2 down?

Note, this is just roofing. Woodwork has been done.

What is the size of the roof in metres square?

Rerin:
All are 4units of two bedroom, parlour but no dinning, with kitchen and three toilets of 5fts each. The parlour is 11-12each and rooms are10-11fts each too. I cant remember the kitchen. But all entrances are sideways.

Search for "how many blocks you might need for your building or fence" or so, you will find the formula to calculate the numbers of blocks you might need,.... for cement, a bag could set about 60-70 blocks, just divide total of blocks with a number between 60-70 to have an idea of numbers of cement......for the column/pillars, it depends on the sizes tho..... I will leave that for the experts in building.

Note: This may not be accurate, always make provision for unforseen circumstances.

Rerin:
Its over 5 years i did the ground floor and unfortunately i can't remember the quotation but did the decking not long ago. I intend raising the first floor now but I need responses so as not to be cheated by the bricklayers. If to just give no of blocks and cement. Size of decking is 43ft length and 35.5breadth

For the experts to help you, they will need the floorplan to know the sizes of the partitions to calculate the numbers of blocks and cement you would need.

Focusmind:
My dear, If I tell you say I know, na lie - My knowledge of building na from this thread and asking questions. I don't know if Satin paint is used for exterior walls. Note that Satin is not a brand but a product type. The building gurus in this thread will definitely intervene.

Satin: Satin paint has some sheen to it, and is an excellent choice for hardworking rooms, like kitchens and bathrooms. It stands up exceptionally well to scrubbing and regular cleaning. However, its glossiness highlights wall imperfections like cracks, divots or poorly patched areas.

However, there are also satin paint made for external and interior (walls and ceilings) walls. These days there different paint for different section in a building.

Enyinne:
Abi oo , everyone is jack of all trade but specialists in one . We all are guilty

Jack of all trade has helped me in life, when I did my industrial training in Nigeria I rotated between different technical departments (mechanical, electrical/electronics, woodwork etc), it gave me a solid background to go into the world properly equipped. Being versatile is not a crime Lol.

Aforxzy:
You can use 6" block on the first floor cos it will give you more space but i will recommend 9" for the external walls and 6" for the internal partitions.
On the columns(pillars) i wont advice you reduce them cos it depends on the position and load they are carrying. Why not get an engineer to critically check and see if they can be reduced without affecting the structural stability of the building.

What are the advantages of using 9" blocks for external wall?

Rerin:
I was clicking on those names but not directing me to any link. I searched for their names but with several post which is tiring.

From the several post you could learn a lot to assist your knowledge about building. You can ask them a simple question in one of their recent post/thread, they give prompt answer to educate people.

EgunMogaji2:
You win.

Have a nice day.

I go through inspection too I have a good idea what they are looking for.

I wish you a nice Tuesday.

EgunMogaji2:
USA: Green Gypsum board on wood frame or block. I won't be abet to pass inspection if I don't have it in all wet areas.

Nigeria: Well grouted and sealed tile on concrete block. "I" to use my best judgement to protect my family and tenants since there's no inspection in Nigeria.

As usual, this is what "I" do. Not a bible and doesn't need to be followed.

And you feel a simple and effective system couldn't get you through inspection?.....an inspector is only coming to see if an approved system is used and not whether tiles or moisture resistant paint was used

EgunMogaji2:
I always and will always tile all my wet areas in Nigeria not because I don't know of alternatives but because of the unique situation in Nigeria of building with bricks. They only way I won't use tile is if I apply a waterproof barrier of some sort.

It just grinds my gears when people write as if we don't know of building choices and just do follow follow.

How many barrier do u need to be sure your walls are safe?

n3xt:
Smiles. We are all waiting for the pics of the truck.

I’m not seeing myself opening threads on construction updates any time soon. Maybe customers can have access to construction updates on NextHome website tho.

But I’m sure I’d start sharing #bestofnaijahomes and the unique designs in the contemporary world which is my core. We’d be exploring alternative construction methods.

In the meantime, the modernist should check this out [/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q2LzMgUbvo

[b]The Changing Landscapes | Lagos

Hahahaha....There is already 3D printing building system, I hope it get to Nigeria soon when it goes on sale.
The house is 2 storey duplex made from concrete, I wished we have an encouraging public system that sparks our creativeness and innovation.

JustCryptos:
So, in terms of cost, which option is cheaper?

Half tiling could be cheaper but I may be wrong....but you will have a better interior decoration with an half tile kitchen or toilet, where big or small the choices are enormous.

EgunMogaji2:
There are houses in the USA with full wall tiles in wet areas.

Additionally we really can’t compare west areas in USA and Nigeria due to how we build.

We use water resistant gypsum boards in wet areas in the USA. This serves the same purpose as tiles in Nigeria.

I have personally seen all full wall tiles and partly full wall tiles in the USA and some other part of the world I have been to and I think building construction are very different from what I am use to in Europe where
creative combination of walls and tiles are popular in kitchen, bathrooms and toilets but cross boarder sourcing of ideas and interior decoration u find a mix of both these days.....some apart toilets don't need tiles at all.
I just felt we can be more creative and do better than the general view that only tile can get us a better decoration or keep moisture away.

n3xt:
The default setting in Nigeria is “All Bathroom/Kitchen Wall Tiled”

Today there are many antibacterial paints with formulation to produce a cleaner environment.

There are also steam resistant paints and the greaseproof paints that can be washed without any colour fading.

The possibilities out there really are endless!

Exactly! Mostly in hotels I have noticed all bathrooms wall are tiled but in some only the areas where the shower or bathtub is are tiled....in residential houses where the bathrooms or toilets are partitioned with wooden materials get all tiled mostly.....I believe we could be more creative with tiles and paints than we do now.

rotecch77:
You are much more correct
Actually it’s not compulsory to tiled all the wall both the wet and the dry area but at times when client want it tiled all round nothing you can do than to do so.
I did this halve tiled about 5-6yrs ago for a member here and it’s looks nice. Not only him I have done many like that too.

But this doesn’t fit some building o truly.

In that case the client choice defined that situation..... Oga Hajj once commented that knowing Nigeria for what it is it's better to tile all walls for rest of mind, but that seem to be a general view about kitchen and bathroom in Nigeria. Yes, noted that majority of Nigerians doesn't have consistent maintenance culture attitude but it not really necessary if you understand how protective satin paint could be.