₦airaland Forum

Grayoso:
OP, you have your answer in the response above. Other Nigerians don't like Igbos and never will as long as the average Igbo has the mindset of the douchebag above.

Nigerians tolerate you but they don't like you because of your arrogance and insultive disrespect, based on nothing and totally unwarranted, towards them.

Even a spare part hustler in Ladipo, barely getting by, will be bragging Igbos "own" Lagos.

You are tolerantly supported and allowed to thrive in Lagos in the SW and far from your barren SE enclave. Yet how do you pay back your hosts? With enmity and demeaning insult.

Meanwhile , we don't hear ingrate noise from the more than 100 ethnic groups in Lagos to include successful ones like Edos etal.

Only Igbos will be insulting Yorubas that they" "own" Lagos and have turned Yorubas to slaves in their own land when those statements are ridiculous lies any sane person should be ashamed to tell.

You won't question your folks for having such a troublemaking and offensive mindset.

Instead you start threads like this where you pretend to be the victim of discrimination.

Your thread is mischievous and indicts you as insincere because, if honest to yourself, you should know the annoying behavior of your own people that makes them difficult to like let alone support to lead other Nigerians.

We all saw what you made of the Jonathan Presidency when he is actually Ijaw. You vindictively demanded everyone else, especially Yorubas and Fulanis, be excluded, marginalised, oppressed and punished. You demanded the Presidency be used as a tool to satisfy your lust for vengeance against others.

What will you then demand if an actual Igbo is President? How can Yorubas and Fulanis, for example, ever support an Igbo to be President when you have shown your hands of ethnic bigotry and hate to them uncountable times?

When it comes to the two ethnic group that throws jabs at one another online ,the Igbos and the Yorubas have thier own fair share of abusing one another. So ,dont start with only the Jabs that have be thrown against the Yorubas by the Igbos, without capturing some horrible jabs that have been thrown at the Igbo by the Yorubas.
Stop playing the victim here- as if both ethnic group have not be at each others throat since 2015. If you know you don't have the stomach for unecessary insult, then your guys must stop throwing insulting statement all over the place just to annoy the other ethnic group. Don't you know it pinches them as much as it does to you ?
So, when it comes to insulting one another online , both the Igbos and the Yorubas are guilty of horrible comments against the other ethnic group .
However, that are not the reasons why people are skeptical of the Igbo presidency.
I think some of them as as follows:
1) Pro-Divsion advocate: I feel other ethnic group don't believe the Igbos will unit Nigerians, becos they are Pro-dis-integration of the country ,which the elite from the north don't want to hear.They feel that through an Igbo presidency, Nigeria can easily divide .

(2) Lack of Unity : The Igbos are not united . They don't have that unity of purpose to support a choosen & credible candidate among them, without allowing thier Ego and pride to get in the way .E.g Atiku/Peter Obis' case .

3) Past Sins: They still have not been forgiven for the killings of thier leaders in the first Republic.( Though the north have done worse than the Igbos and they still get elected ,so what is thier own) The general north still hold majority of the vote and nobody would want to risk thier ticket with an ethnic group that is not in good terms with the north .
4) No national figure from the Igbo extraction had been tested and praised by his works. Just like Osibanjo from the S.W. He managed to showed his leadership skills with the little time he was given to lead the country. On the other hand , most of the Igbo leaders from both APC & PDP have been a big disappointment and leave less to he desired .
The only person from the SE I know is Peter Obi &Umahi from PDP . Obi, Who is known on a national level becos of the last presidential election as a VP to Atiku. Umahi on the other hand, is good but he is not known on a national level.
Aside from these two ,the rest contenders, especially from the APC party are nothing to right home about .They are a complete disaster just like our other politicians.

TheRealestGuy:
I ask this question cos it is bewildering and quite shocking to see the reactions of a lot of Nigerians whenever the question of an Igbo presidency is brought up.

Bear in mind that historically, Igbos have voted for a Yoruba man for presidency (Obasanjo in '99 & '03), an Ijaw man (GEJ in '11) as well as twice for core Fulani men (Yar'adua and Atiku). Therefore, any accusations of hate of other tribes by Igbos is laughable and obviously untrue.

Furthermore, Igbos can arguably be said to be the most integrated ethnic group in Nigeria since there's no LGA or Town in the country where you won't find a sizable number Igbo people most likely engaging in business, paying taxes and adding their quota to the economic and social development of the state.

Now I know the issue of the 1966 coup might come up but remember that this was a military affair which cannot be blamed on the average Igbo man and that the coup plotters weren't solely of Igbo origin. Also, those involved in the coup have written several books as to the reason why it was carried out (e.g. Why We Struck by Col. Ademoyega) hence, ruling out any idea that it was an ethnic cleansing.

Finally, it is on record that an Igbo officer was the one who foiled the coup and arrested the officers involved (even though he could have handled it much better by meting out justice asap). Also, if the 1966 coup were to be the reason for the irrational distrust, haven't Igbos paid the more than enough price for Nzeoguwo and Co's mistakes?

Last thing I can think of is that they are afraid that an Igbo president will push for referendum to be reinserted into the constitution. Question is how is that a negative thing? Remember that the right to self determination is something that every progressive country should have and in a democracy, all discussions no matter how sensitive must be allowed as that is how a democracy matures - it is tested continuously.

EDIT: Issues of being boastful and denigrating to other Nigerians in towns and cities where Igbos conduct their businesses have come up. While I agree that the average Igbo man's big ego is a weakness that can cause him to be disliked by others, I do not believe it is a cogent enough reason to perpetually refuse to give them a chance at steering the affairs of a country where they form one of the major ethnic groups.


So I'm asking directly - If you're one of those vehemently opposing the idea of an Igbo president, can you give a good/cogent reason for this decision?

I personally don't have anything against Igbo presidency.
However, I sometimes feel the ticket might be wasted, if given to a candidate from the SE.This is becos, the Igbos will never put thier individual egos' and self interest aside to support who ever emerges as the presidential candidate amongst them .

The Atiku/Obi case was an eye opener. While other ethnic group had accepted and endorsed Obi after he was handpicked by Atiku, the Igbo ethnic group were still scrupling among themselves as to why Obi was chosen over some them.

Other Ethnic group had to appeal for the SE to support thier own for the an Atiku/Obi ticket .

Tap0lane:
Beta than the lunatic Abaribe that collect constituent allowance for 20 years without a single project. I have no idea what your fools define as failure again.

May God give you the grace to witness good leadership, so that you won't settle for rubbish.

UselessBuharist:
The paramount ruler is as helpless as you the youth. Channel your anger towards the right people, kill anybody you suspect to be Fulani whether herdsman or trader.

Teach them that nobody has the monopoly to violence or madness.

of what use are these traditional rulers if they cannot foister peace in Thier community?.

Kdon2:
Office of the Nigeria president is not for toddlers!

The adult that have been there since before you were born ,what good have they done to Nigeria? Answer me.

LordVoldermort:
I thought Desmond Elliot would be there

That one na only toilet and wooden bridge he go they approve for commissioning . God forbid

IvarDboneless:
Great Nigerian youth this is the only opportunity we have to phase out this old and good for nothing politicians, tribalism and religion aside just like we trended the END SARS matter can we solidly campaign for this great autocrats to pilot this great nation to its promise lands we know they may not be 100% perfect but atleast they can align with the rapid development of the western world and take us half to the promise land..who is with me on this I will lead from the front.. lets start with twitter.
Akinwunmi Adeshina for president and Peter Obi for Vice.

Did Adewunmi tell you he is interested ? We know about Obi but not Adeshina . He might not be Interested in Nigeria dark politics

Nobody is blowing any trumpet of war . You guys should keep Ur bloody thirty herdsmen in the north .

Modernizer:
No...I'm using the word ...use...in a different sense.

Of course the fulani have been the perennial users and winners.

I'm only saying, as it stands, that status quo is the most viable path forward for a certain segment of the South.

Tinubu will run into a very formidable fulani led opposition in the South. Yes. A portion of the South will fanatically fight as fulani foot soldiers to ensure a fulani presidency in 2023, and their reason will be...tinubu worked for fulani in 2015

ok..I get Ur point .

Modernizer:
Well the problem with your position is that, people who despise fulani still use them when it suits them.

The yoruba voted in buhari...for example, and used him to get a lot of the juice of government.

So right now, in my calculation, the igbo could decideto vote fulani also, and use them to get their own juice.

This year may not be the best year to try to throw off the looming influence of fulani in our politics.

The distrust between East an West runs deep. And I think fulani are positioned to cash out

Nobody uses the Fulanis..they rather use you .Btw Buhari and. Tinubu who used who ? Buhari used Tinubu to clinch the presidential seat that he failed 3times to get .on the other hand Tinubu thought he would be closer to the president and get power to prepare for his presidential ambition after Buhari Tenor ... But the reverse is the case .Tinubu was shut of of Aso Rock and only Buhari cronies became the lords of the manor.

Modernizer:
I don't think so...atiku would provide the most balanced all round leadership this country has ever had

Fulani man does not understand what equity means. It's In thier blood to elevate their own only and oppress others . Don't trust any Fulani man with power. They go way over board when they are in a position of power .

Before 2015 election, if Buhari had been told to do frog jump from beginning of 3rd mainland bridge to the end, just for him to become president,he would gladly do it and tell you thank you ...

They are very humble before they take power but becomes monster toward other ethnic group when they get into power . Dont trust any Fulani.They are thesame with a common sense of purpose. That is why they cannot critisize thier own. No matter the degree of atrocities they are known to have committed against other tribes.

AutoChick4U:
Give me just one point on how he is d best man for d job

What else , aside from him throwing money at them to sing his praises all day long .

nonxo007:
My brother you head is very correct, God bless you. If its possible to have the three of them (Osibanjo, Zulum and Obi) in government e done better for us be that

Ya .I concur. Not that theif that have cornered Lagos for his personal gain.

BigSarah:
The way people are going about 2023,

They'll end up wishing Buhari ran for 3rd term

He will only rule Ur house-hold for his third term and not Nigerians

Until the electorial bill is signed into law before I can believe that.

aryzgreat:
E no dey tire me.

Instead of Tinubu, let Atiku take it. Let North have it for another 8 yrs.

2 can play the game. Shebi you heard Tinubu say he will continue from where Buhari stopped. Ie suffering continues. Mbanu! God forbid!. Let another party win and expose d rot in APC. That's how USA is getting better. They don't vote one party back to back

Any credible person from the south aside from Tinubu . That one and Atiku should go and rest .

Na everything Una dey carry to Nairaland or online ?? Nawa ooo!

Briller:
Hmmm. I don't want to sound judgemental but 90percent of the JW members I have come across are hypocrites. Argue with your ancestors if you doubt my submissions but if you know you know.

They claim they don't celebrate birthdays, yet partake of birthday cakes....
They claim they don't celebrate Christmas, yet partake in the chicken and all other orishirishi used to celebrate Christmas...
They practice endogamy but commit adultery with people of other faith...
They work in civil service but don't respect national symbol such as anthem, yet they benefit from the same system as long as they are paid salaries from taxpayers money...
They cheat the system by using official hours to go out for evangelism so that their marks would be accorded them in their drive to gain more converts...
They love their Christian brothers and sisters more than their biological siblings...SMH

The list is endless.

They are ready to die or let their love ones die becos of Thier doctrine against blood transfusion but they are thesame people that will look the other way as thier elders in the church molest their young ...they will hush hush everything until it dies down without persecuting that elder . I hate JW

Sebastine1994:
Who dragged kalu to court if not Igbo.

For 10 years, kalu no rest.

Mind you kalu can never be president, he would contest but we don't support him

Legally ,he cannot contest, becos he is an excon.

seunmsg:
There will be no hardship in a Tinubu presidency. He will turn the fortunes of Nigeria around and the land will become prosperous. What we should be looking forward to is shared prosperity and not hardship. He did it in Lagos and he will do it in Nigeria.

How? Like the way he help turned Nigeria around through his change mantra? some of you guys from the south west are just like the northerners, who think from the back of their brain .. Traibalism have clouded all your better sense of judgement.
If you are talking about Osibanjo or Fashola ,that I understand but this old man that is frail and slickly,is what you zombie have started with again. God will help you all and the stupid decision you are preparing for Ur children. 8yrs of our lives have been wasted becos of this man's ambition..
He will never seat on that seat in Aso Rock. The blood of many that have died as a result of this monster he help installed into power are on his head .

What a Shame!!...This is what hunger does ..It strip off, from any dignity left in you and reduce you to a mere human carcass without a soul ...ooo!! what a Shame..

Jack005:
Yoruba's are truly funny people... After betraying our son GEJ, you want the south south to vote for you? Tinubu can never win the south south against Atiku.. I don't like Atiku that much, but Yorubas must present someone like osibanjo at least to have any chance of defeating a northerner..

I concur. If u see Osibanjo, I will change my mind and vote for him .

Olayetan:
How would it look if the whole of Nigeria turned to Lagos like?


It will look great with so much opportunity right?, Then, the only man that can make this happen is one & only JAGABAN, he made Lagos what it is today, let's give him the opportunity to transform other states to Lagos like.


Vote BAT 2023
Vote visionary leader.

Aside from the structure on ground and security, Lagos is a mega dirty slum with open sewage, where people openly deficate along the road and in gutters .
Agberos everywhere running after commercial vehicles and unruly commuters taking one way as they wish, just becos the governors is weak . TThis is what they couldn't do during Fashola time ,yet Tinubu faught with him and Ambode .it's this yes sir governor that he likes .
I pray for other state to upgrade and improve on their infrastructure but they must retain their sane environment.

If Aninih was to be alive, and manages stumbled into wealth and power. Nigeria would vote for him. We are a nation without any moral compass.

A man that sold this disaster to Nigerians and he is still very proud of Buhari.
This man would rather see the country burn to the ground just to achieve his ambition.He is a heartless leader .

Advocate500:
The BMC miscreants on this forum are the promoting his madness, the true yorubas desired genuine change not just my people against your own people type of leadership.

Change my ass . Nonsense!! That was how you idiot brought the same change mantra in 2015 & next level in 2019. You will grow old In a messed up country , becos you guys refuse to use Ur brain to vote in progressive leaders.
We have wasted 8yrs of Buhari reign ,if you like vote in another greedy idiot into power and watch another 8yrs of Ur life waste away .
God gave us many things but not a good sense of judgement in voting in a good and credible leader .

Ussycool:
Whaat!
You know what? Women fails to understand their responsibilities in their marital home. They behave this way if you pamper them so much. Look, i love my lady. And she do all chores without complain, she joked that she sees house chores as an exercise even if she is pregnant...
Though your case is different, you can not control your woman. That is why she is so disrespectful.
Very soon you will see hell, if she put to bed you will be at recieving end of entire wahala in your home. She will make sure you start washing for her.

You know what? Some women can't diffrentiate between dating and marriage. They continue with their initial characters.
My cent.

Ur wife is pregnant but u cannot help her out with house chores becos to u she is now Ur slave ..you cannot because of your over bloated ego that is higher than two story building.
Kill Ur pregnant wife with chores, without any assistance , then you will still complain that she is lazy .
Different women react to pregnancy in different ways . Some fall sick all through while others are lucky to be active.

skipoforreal:
later you people will be complaining that fulanis owns Nigeria, even to support your tribe na wahala, can a fulani man betray is fellow, capital NO, na too much brain dey kill we yorubas

Is that old hag Tinubu the only person from SW ? Abi dem curse Una with always voting old ,frail & terrible leaders into power? . "Support our own my ass", do they think about our own, when they are busy stealing thier own people dry and robbing them off thier future ?. Make tribalism nor kill Una. See what traibalism has caused the north .

Putinmyrod:
Tinubu deserves a chance. Someone who could build a state, a party, businesses, men of class. He won't fail.

He is a thief like the rest of them .

helinues:
Remember Gov Ayade and his deputy are both professors, any tangible development in Cross rivers state

That one na better person !!him and Yaya Bello belong to thesame category

gassbee:
Wey those hoodlums wey dey specialised in burning buildings, ur skills are needed at dowen college

God will help you oo!!

Emuforlife1:
Instead of you to be praying for a righteous child, you are saying "male or nothing ".
So you prefer a [b]Male Agbero to a Female Medical Doctor
May this your 18th century mentality not lead to regrets... [/b]

Dem full Lagos...those Agberos, were some parents prayer to have them.Now see how they have become a menace to the society