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colonelwealth:
I watch this man's interviews and I release that he doesn't call out evil, he is always using the medium to solicit for patronage.
He is one of those elements that set the bar of selling the truth of law to the highest bidders or being economical with the truth, being mischievous with facts that influences public opinion for selfish gains.

It is bad to see people who should be elder statesmen, who should speak truth to powers that be or try to correct the ills of the society at their old age still being mischievous and untruthful.

Anyways, those are his opinions....he has rights to it....let the courts decide in truth.

How typical of you to attack the man's supposed motivations rather than the substance of what he said. Are you a mind-reader, able to tell what people are really thinking even from a distance? If so, why aren't you getting rich playing poker or buying and selling stocks, instead of commenting on Nairaland? In any case, even if every accusation you made against this SAN were true, how would that affect in any way the correctness of the points he made?

I suspect you know at some level that you have no meaningful counter-argument to make against any of the points the SAN raised, which is why you're so quick to resort to ad hominem attacks on his character. Too bad for you - and for everyone else who acts like you - that the only things the Supreme Court will care about are facts and logic, the very things you "Obidients" never bring to the table. Supreme Court judges cannot be swayed by simply shouting "Thief.nubu" and "drug baron" up and down.

slashthroat:
You are sick for referring to a statesman and someone older than your father in that manner simply because he doesn't share your deluded mob idea.

Na their way. They never bring any verifiable facts or logic to discussions, just insults, threats and brazen lies. Seeing an "Obidient" calmly making points based on reason and objective facts is as likely to happen as seeing a dog wearing a suit and walking on two legs while smoking a pipe. The closest thing that passes for logic amongst "Obidients" seems to be to simply repeat the same lies over and over, no matter how many times their falsehood is pointed out (the clown whose comment is just before mine exemplifies everything I've just said here).

Couldntfigurean:
see your dads jubilating to meet ndigbo
Sure some of them were getting handouts from Igbo people and stopped getting them because of the war hence the happiness and jubilation

So are you now admitting that the claim Awolowo impoverished the Igbos and left them with "only" £20 a head at the end of the war is a lie? Because it's hard to collect handouts from people who have supposedly been left penniless.

Victor468:
What I don't understand is this. How come the same presidential election they termed rigged, is the same election that produced the Senate and Rep member. Yet those results were not contested. If for any instant, the presidential election is upturned, will those elections be upturned as well? That would have been the reasonable thing to do.

The only way to understand this double-standard is to interpret the claims of "rigging" as nothing more than a manifestation of their inability to handle defeat. When they shout "rigged", what they are really saying is that they believe they deserve to win every election contest, and are incapable of displaying sportsmanship when reality fails to go their way.

You see exactly the same mentality at work in Trump and all his supporters who insist the 2020 election was "stolen" in spite of the lack of any evidence and an endless stream of court defeats, and I believe that the Obi supporters will continue to follow the MAGA playbook once Obi's electoral challenges are inevitably thrown out by the Supreme Court: they will claim that this too was "rigged", and that the only solution left to them as "patriots" is to violently overthrow a system they call "corrupt" for not validating their fantasies. Indeed, we are already seeing this at work in the baseless accusations against the CJN, and the demands for an unconstitutional "interim government".

BigIyanga:
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Outright lies. Until Peter Obi, nobody got 95% annywhere in Nigeria. Even Azikiwe didn't manage it when he led the NCNC. Go peddle your lies to someone who knows nothing about Nigeria's political history.


My region - unlike yours - has never ever supported any candidate in such a manner, not Awolowo, not MKO Abiola, and obviously not Tinubu (otherwise Obi wouldn't have won Lagos). It shows how little sense you have that you point to Yoruba open-mindedness as evidence of bigotry, while lying about the pathological clannishness of you and your kinsmen.


So you are now admitting Lagos was rigged for Obi? Or did he suddenly reveal he has previously hidden Yoruba ancestry? What senseless gibberish from a demented tribalist incapable of thinking his way out of a wet paper bag.

Lol at open mindedness when in the last 30 yrs, you have only voted for parties that adopted presidential and vp candidates for your kinsmen.
Pure clannishness and blantant bigotry. In fact, in 2003, AD, a tribal opposition party, refused to field a presidential candidate because their kinsman-Obj was on the ballot.
These are pre-meditated lies and falsehoods sold to you guys that always voting for kinsmen is not bigotry..
See how are you fixated on 95% only in 2023 while your region in the last 30yrs, has 100% voted for your kinsmen.. bigots dont know that they have ‘bigotting’ for tje last 30 yrs lol

Unashamed bigots intentionally misrepresenting well-oiled bigotry as open-mindedness lol

Yet more verbal diarrhea. You clearly have personal issues in urgent need of resolving, but I guess that just comes with the territory with you Zombidients - compulsive lying, blatant illogic and generalized aggression are your bread and butter.

BigIyanga:
SS/SE voted for MKO
Your elders misled you all. OBJ got 95% from SE/SS. Yardua got 95% vote. GET got 95% vote…

Outright lies. Until Peter Obi, nobody got 95% annywhere in Nigeria. Even Azikiwe didn't manage it when he led the NCNC. Go peddle your lies to someone who knows nothing about Nigeria's political history.

But your region cannot say the same .. giving 95% to any party that didnt have your kinsmen as presidential/vp candidates.

My region - unlike yours - has never ever supported any candidate in such a manner, not Awolowo, not MKO Abiola, and obviously not Tinubu (otherwise Obi wouldn't have won Lagos). It shows how little sense you have that you point to Yoruba open-mindedness as evidence of bigotry, while lying about the pathological clannishness of you and your kinsmen.

The fact that you are still arguing about this clearly shows how openly and blatantly bigoted you and ur ilk are.
You guys have only voted for your kinsmen in tje last 30 yrs lol

So you are now admitting Lagos was rigged for Obi? Or did he suddenly reveal he has previously hidden Yoruba ancestry? What senseless gibberish from a demented tribalist incapable of thinking his way out of a wet paper bag.

Just as I predicted - not even a hundred managed to show up. I bet there were multiple groups of tourists visiting at the same time, so absolutely no one would have batted an eye at this small group waving placards.

BigIyanga:
Cos you people have normalized and internalized wrong things. Any political party adopts your kinsmen as presidential and vp candidate is the party to be voted.. If they’re thieves, drug barons, corrupt invidiadusl.. so long as they’re from your tribe.. you vote for them.
This has been your tribal voting pattern in the last 30 yrs.. MKO-BAT.1993-2023… You are the ones who have wrong balls to call other sane voters.. bigoted tribalist. You guys should look yourself in the mirror.

Said by one of those who gave more than 95% of their votes to a single person who just happened to be their kinsman, as if they were living under Stalin. Why not try taking your own advice?

xevove2061:
This ethnic politics wey everybody don dey play since inception of nigeria, e reach obi turn una say na him invent am. You guys should try harder. Who has played for religious and eth ic politcs more than Buhari, Tinubu who called Igbos Okoro at the heat of a previous election, MC oluomo who asked Igbos to stay at home or the full people of Lagos who decided to not vote for GRV because his mother is Igbo? You lots are sick.

If there's nothing wrong with playing ethnic politics, why are you angry about Buhari, Tinubu and Mc Oluomo for allegedly having done so? Why are you so upset about others playing the same sort of politics Peter Obi has been caught on tape indulging in?

This is the real problem with you and your political messiah: you want to have it both ways.

Your candidate has been caught out playing the dirtiest politics of ethnic and religious division while acting all "holier than thou", but you see nothing wrong with that.

You accuse others of corruption while claiming sainthood for a man who was caught red-handed diverting "security vote" money, who was hiding money under his daughter's name in foreign tax havens, and who openly admitted using government funds to prop up a family business (meanwhile, Tinubu's ownership of Alpha-Beta is widely assumed but has never actually been proven).

You pretend that your issue with Tinubu is that he is a "drug baron" (as if civil forfeiture were all the proof needed for such a claim), but are quick to wail about "tribalism" when anyone points out how 99% of drug traffickers caught in Asia are from the same group that gives the loudest support to Obi.

Speaking of "tribalism", you were happy to accept all those Yoruba votes for Obi in Lagos during the presidential election, but when those same voters rejected your "omoluabi" candidate with no experience, and whose public profile consisted of backing Biafran causes and mocking Yorubas, you called them "tribalists". Meanwhile, in your region more than 90% of votes went for your kinsman, the sort of number one only sees in Communist dictatorships. No candidate from any other region has ever enjoyed such undivided support, not Awolowo, not Shagari, not Buhari, not Tinubu, nobody. Who, then, are the real tribalists?

The icing on the cake of all this hypocrisy is how you Obidients claim the election was "flawed" and your candidate's mandate was "stolen", but instead of patiently waiting for the courts to decide the issue on the merits, you've now moved to agitating for an "interim government", which you and everyone else knows full well to be a call for a military coup, as there is no provision for such a thing through constitutional means. How is it that supposed defenders of law and order can be calling for the ultimate in betrayal of legality?

Atiku and Tinubu may be corrupt old-timers, but they are known quantities, and don't pretend to be more than what they appear to be. You Obidients and your candidate pretend to be better than all that, but all you are is old wine in the "new" wineskin of the Labour Party, down to your 62-year old, two-term governor, PDP-member until last year candidate for sainthood with all his Pandora and "security vote" baggage (that anyone should take the 2019 PDP vice-presidential nominee seriously as an advocate for any kind of "change" is the most ridiculous thing of all). You want to be taken as new brooms sweeping away all the dirty old ways of doing politics, but you refuse to lead by example, and this putrid hypocrisy makes everything you lot have to say utterly laughable.

I think this counter-protest proves a very important point that I already made yesterday: organizing a protest in the west does not imply any kind of endorsement by the host government, nor is it any sort of tremendous achievement, whether it be in front of the White House, Downing Street, the Reichstag or wherever.

Permits are handed out to anyone who asks for them, no matter what they are protesting about, and the decision to publish yesterday's post to the front-page was an act of propaganda, making it seem as if the American government were giving legitimacy to the nonsensical "stolen mandate" lies being peddled by "Obidients" who can't handle the reality that their candidate came third (not even second) in the presidential election. It's good to see this post also make first-page, however much lamentation and wailing about "hypocrisy" or "copycats" it evokes. Now it's longer possible to deny that the other protest was also an irrelevant sideshow.

scobaba:
LAGOS GENERATES THIS , LAGOS GENERATES THAT.

Still take loan 800B. Na wa.

Debt is a perfectly legitimate financial instrument - if the risk-adjusted rate of return on an investment is higher than the interest on a loan to finance it, refusing to take the loan for fear of debt is the height of irresponsibility. Just admit you (like the financial ignoramus Peter Obi) know nothing about finance and move on.

nesphil:
Why is Lagos State your headache
You should be more concerned and worried about your state and not a state that embarks on mega and world-class projects and ensure that those projects are completed and put to use.

You should be worried about states that build sub-standard projects and make a lot of noise about them on social media.

The dude has a serious inferiority complex. Anytime someone puts up a post about anything related to IGR or development in Lagos, you can count on a Pavlovian response from him, as sure as day turns into night. He does this even when no one so much as mentions the SE in any way!

Why someone who calls himself the "first son" of Anambra should be so aggravated by matters in Lagos and the southwest is unfathomable.

Ikaeniyan0:
So relax for the tribunal and court to do their work

The case is in court already

Deep down, they realize that the court case is based on flimsy premises and stands no chance of success. That's why they're already talking about it being "rigged" before hearings even start, and are now turning to "interim government" fantasies to sustain their hopes.

Seductress4:
Is this what you're being taught at your prestigious school?

It says it all that you say "you're being taught" when it ought to have been clear from what I wrote that I graduated from university a long time ago. Maybe you should learn the basics of English grammar before you comment on the educational accomplishments of strangers.

JasonScoolari:
Went to Ivy league university and you still don't have sense?

What a Waste.

Look at this Dunning-Kruger example talking about others not having sense! The sad thing about your level of intellectual disability is that you don't even have the necessary intelligence to realize just how slow you are. Meanwhile, I've lived and traveled freely between all those countries which will never be more than a few blurry TV images to angry, penniless wretches like you, who think something worthwhile has been achieved simply because a few nonentities are allowed to blow off steam in front of the White House for a few hours.

To failures like you, stuck in your "face me I slap you" hovels, America will always be the mythical "Yankee", where the streets are paved with gold, so jumping up and down in Lafayette Square will seem on par with the 7th labor of Hercules, but from my perspective (and that of the average westerner) they're just a bunch of delusional, jobless tribal jingoists who will count themselves lucky if one or two local reporters spare them 5 minutes of attention.

JasonScoolari:
Special Assistant to the US president on international affairs, weldone.

You'll sit in your Surulere confinement talking nonsense with pride

I went to an Ivy League university and lived in Manhattan for nearly a decade, so you can put your projection where the sun don't shine. We aren't all frustrated Ajegunle denizens like you.

JasonScoolari:
They're doing excellently well in their endeavors over there, even getting recognition.....

It shows how little you know about life in the west that you think there's any "recognition" implied in getting a permit to hold a peaceful permit in front of the White House, 10 Downing Street, the Elysee Palace, etc. These places see all kinds of protesters all of the time, many of them lunatics like antivaxxers, Illuminati conspiracy-mongers and the like. Getting such permits is a purely procedural matter, implying nothing about whether the government approves of the message the protesters are trying to send. The only conditions required to get protest permits in such places are

1. That no one else is already planning to hold a protest there.
2. That the protesters promise to be peaceful and orderly.

The only thing that marks out any of these endless protests from the rest are the size of the crowds they draw and whether they eventually turn violent. It's out of the question that this particular protest will draw more than a few hundred disgruntled Nigerians, and letting it turn violent would only discredit the message it's trying to send.

Net result: this won't cause even a ripple, and I doubt even the lowest ranks of the Biden administration will ever be aware it took place. They have far more serious matters to worry about than a few sore losers from Nigeria who are angry that their tribal champion came third place in an election.

hohafrank:
Stealing someone else mandate is worse than military dictatorship.

What is a military dictatorship other than the theft of everybody's mandate? Just come out and admit that you're like that woman in the Biblical parable who would rather saw the baby in half than see it adopted by someone else.

To argue for military rule because of a single lost election is to betray that one's supposed commitment to democracy and the rule of law was never more than skin deep. If you only believe in democracy when it goes your way, then you don't really believe in democracy at all.

Many of us have been saying since the beginning of Obi's campaign that his "movement" was nothing but a vehicle for authoritarian tribalists, but apologists would always come forward to excuse the blatant intolerance and contempt for differing opinions shown by "Obidients" as merely a matter of moral outrage and a zeal for more accountable government. How does one reconcile such excuses with the current open appeals for the military to violently overthrow Nigerian democracy? Let's face facts, this is what most of the "Obidients" (other than a few deluded idealists in Lagos) have always been about - strongman rule in service of an ethnic-supremacist agenda.

For all the flaws of old-school politicians like Atiku and Tinubu, at least they are able to tolerate dissent and mockery without retaliating, which is more than could ever be said for Peter Obi's movement even now, when they are far from the levers of power, let alone if they should ever manage to seize power through violence. We would probably be facing the an African version of fascism if that scary day were ever to come about, complete with a "master race" whose views and well-being would be the only ones which counted.

vannessa7:
It's either their way or no way, they believe they are the most important people in Nigeria and all the rest of us don't matter and that is why they believe their candidate must be our candidate, rebelling like a child denied of ice cream, I'm sure they won't mind standing against the entire country like they did in 1967 wasting countless lives, they are working towards that.

You have captured perfectly their mentality. If they weren't convinced that their votes should count for more than anyone else's, they would have taken heed of the many voices warning them before the election of the need to build bridges, rather than burning them through non-stop tribalistic insults. One such character even told me outright that me and my region (SW) could go straight to hell, as Obi wouldn't be needing our votes to win.

DMerciful:
Where is Lamidi Amoda Sangodele?

He's wherever Yekini Amoda Ogunlere, Jubril Al-Sudani and other figments of IPOB imaginations are to be found.

cathodekazim:
Puke

The clowns will never stop coming up with sophistical "reasons" why their 3rd place candidate will be sworn as president on May 29th. Next thing you'll know they'll be saying it's prophesied in the alignment of the stars, that a "mammy water" rose up from a stream to decree it, or that they read it in the entrails of dead animals ...

Mrfixitt:
As a Tinubu supporter who has been into this zo**ie work for a long time, I did not expect you to sound otherwise. Rigging out election winners and putting them in 3rd position to make it look like they truly lost the election is an old trick so you can't deceive the sane minds. The world knows Peter Obi won the election squarely and definitely will get his mandate back.

The "world" knows no such thing, and it is up to your candidate to provide convincing evidence for it in the courts, rather than attempting to bypass the constitution and subverting democracy through an illegal "interim government".

If you are truly convinced that your candidate "won" (despite all facts and logic to the contrary), then show some respect for the legal process and allow the courts to settle the matter. You can't pretend to be irate at supposed "rigging" while agitating for the biggest rigging of all: using violence to overthrow the democratic order so your preferred candidate is handed power.

lexyking:
I usually do not attack personalities, but for you I will make an exemption. Are you really this dumb or you're just pretending to be?

How can you ask that Buhari who was duly constitutionally elected president to serve a constitutional 4 years term to remain in office beyond the 4 years just because an election Is being disputed? Is it too much for your coconut brain to fathom that same way Obi reclaimed his mandate as governor of Anambara State from the person that was already sworn in, he can also reclaim his mandate from Tinubu even after swearing in? Why are you and your ilks making a fool of yourself just because of hatred for Tinubu?

The one good thing about all of the sudden agitation for an "interim government" (aka a coup) is that the Obi-supporters can no longer pretend that their movement has ever been driven by a desire for "good government" and a hatred of law-breaking. The same clowns who were hoping for an election to be annulled because of Tinubu's civil forfeiture case in the USA are now openly pleading for the ultimate in criminality: the violent overthrow of an established democracy. It shows that they have no faith in any of the legal challenges they are currently trying to make, and that they are more than happy to see the entire country burn down if that is what it takes to frustrate the object of their obsessive hatred, aka Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

This is clearly not a matter of mere electoral politics, as sane people understand losing is a normal part of the political process, and the best one can do is scrutinize one's past mistakes, learn from them, and regroup to try again. On this point one has to give Atiku credit, as he has never given any kind of support to voices calling for illegal measures to seize power on his behalf, even after 6 election defeats. Peter Obi, on the other hand, has been noticeably silent as his supporters grow ever bolder in begging the soldiers to come out of their barracks ...

PureMe01:
If Tinubu is not inaugurated as president, heaven will not fall

This is the sort of arrogant thinking that led to January 1966 and all the deaths that followed from it.