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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:48pm On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
It saddens me that you are still so stubborn.... isaiah 48:16, who is the speaker? Q2. Who was the other Yahweh the sender? Q3. Who is the Spirit?

Why do you for argument sake want to make a fool out of yourself?

So according to you VS 6b Yahweh is the speaker, so if Yahweh is the speaker in vs 16 why do you split that into a and b where there's only a and one speaker which you have acknowledged.

The point here is there's one Speaker which we both agree that is Yahweh. So who is the other Yahweh sending Yahweh the speaker?


If I were you I will humble myself and do further research into that scripture and stop the stupidity and foolishness
I can see how U cherish your mumu doctrine. Isaiah 48:6 was repeated in 42:10, proof that it's Yahweh's speech.
The Isaiah 48:16b , is not a continuous speech from the first sentence of v16 (or even v15 or any preceding verse), neither was the statement attributed to Yahweh or anyone else.
By divine inspiration, Prophet isaiah wrote down a prophecy about a futuristic event.
( U have no concrete proof that v16b. is Yahweh's direct speech )
That verse never said Yahweh sent himself ,rather, Yahweh sent some one HE (Yahweh) had endowed with holy spirit.
The prophetic declaration of Isaiah 61:1 perfectly fits Isaiah 48: 16b..
Your conjectures no be proof.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:31pm On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
It saddens me that you are still so stubborn.... isaiah 48:16, who is the speaker? Q2. Who was the other Yahweh the sender? Q3. Who is the Spirit?

Why do you for argument sake want to make a fool out of yourself?

So according to you VS 6b Yahweh is the speaker, so if Yahweh is the speaker in vs 16 why do you split that into a and b where there's only a and one speaker which you have acknowledged.

The point here is there's one Speaker which we both agree that is Yahweh. So who is the other Yahweh sending Yahweh the speaker?


If I were you I will humble myself and do further research into that scripture and stop the stupidity and foolishness
I can see how U cherish your mumu doctrine.
The Isaiah 48:16b , is not a continuous speech from the first sentence of v16 (or even v15 or any preceding verse), neither was the statement attributed to Yahweh or anyone.
By divine inspiration, Prophet isaiah wrote down a prophecy about a futuristic event.
That verse never said Yahweh sent himself ,rather, Yahweh sent some one HE (Yahweh) had endowed with holy spirit.
The prophetic declaration of Isaiah 61:1 perfectly fits Isaiah 48: 16b..
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:07pm On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
How confusing you are bruv, Yahweh alone says He's the First and the Last, there's no God but Him, Christ says He's the First and Last.. Isaiah 41:4 here Yahweh again said He's the First and the Last without adding that there's no god besides Him...


Now you claim Jesus is a god implying that Jesus is another god whereas the bible verse you just used said Yahweh said there's no God except Him. You attested to the fact that Jehovah said He's the everlasting true God beside him there's no other. So then that makes Jesus A false god since there's no other God except Yahweh.
Yahweh said "You are gods",you are all sons of the Most High" Psalms 82:6. (sons ,plural)
Jesus Christ quoted Psalms 82:6 and said "I am God's Son" John 10:34-36.
Therefore, Jesus Christ. is a god because God's sons are gods.
Yahweh never said his sons are false gods.
Because U refused to swallow your pride & accept the bitter pill of truth, U & your crew of LIARS are the ones who "makes Jesus a false god"
Una mumu done do !!
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 7:07pm On Nov 17, 2018
Crysthaniel:
That's it Brother
I came as the Father’s representative and have come into the world. Now I am leaving the world and am going to the Father John 16:28

Work, not for the food that perishes, but for the food that remains for everlasting life, which the Son of man will give you; for on this one the Father, God himself, has put his seal of approval.” 28 So they said to him: “What must we do to carry out the works of God?” 29 In answer Jesus said to them: “This is the work of God, that you exercise faith in the one whom he sent.” -john 6: 27-29

But he answered: “It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’”matt:4;4

Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” Matt 4:10

Jesus can't say this things if he's the father(Jehovah)

But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God- 1corinthians 11:3 Paul can't say this if Jesus is God
They have read it but ,like the Pharisees in Jesus day, they are enemies of the truth. Arrogance & mumu virus run very deep in their hearts . No mind them jare
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 7:01pm On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
undecided undecided undecided... runaway? Where? How? This wasn't directed to me so why do you think I'm running away. You are the one running away from Isaiah 48:16 because obviously Watch tower hasn't taught you how to refute it yet with your lies so you can't think and argue for yourself... such a pity
U are just hanging on to straws.
Isaiah 48:16, I've already shown U what it means.
Its no basis for Trinity.
v1 to 11 ,Yahweh spoke to House of Jacob.
v12,13,Yahweh again spoke to Jacob.
v14,15, prophecy about Cyrus. (Jere 50 & 51)
v16a Yahweh spoke to Jacob (Isa45:19).
v16b. prophecy about Jesus ministry (Isaiah 42:1. 61:1.. Matt3:16. Luke4:18-21).
Go throway your mumu doctrine for dustbin.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 6:35pm On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
It's really frustrating debating with you, seems you lack basic language study, what is the Hebrew used in Gen 49:3? Is it the same as Gen 1:1? We are talking about greek, you are talking about Hebrew. The greek word arche means beginning or source or origin, so Christ is the beginning or source or origin of Gods creation, He is the Originator same greek word used for God and Jesus in" I am the beginning and the end". Do you get it now
Enemies of truth , "first born " in Gen49:3, 1chr5:1 & Col 1:15 has the same meaning in all languages.
"The beginning of all creation" IS NOT the same thing as " I am the beginning and the end", oh ye twisters of truth!

Where in your Bible was Yahweh addressed as "the beginning of all creation "?
None !!
Was Jesus Christ was called "the beginning of creation" ? Yes !
Because he was created, begotten,brought forth.

"In the beginning God created the heavens "
" In the beginning was the word..."
The word had a beginning just as the heavens had a beginning.
Mumu ,twisters of truth, Yahweh, the Almighty God had no beginning.
HE brought forth Jesus Christ ,the word & the world. Psalms 90:1,2.
Yahweh is not Jesus Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 2:51pm On Nov 17, 2018
OneJ:
What did Rev 3:12,14 & 21 say about your mumu doctrine, Trinity?
pls give your response to my posers :
Where in your Bible did Jesus give authority or command to Yahweh?
The God & Father of Jesus is Yahweh. John 20:17. Eph 1:2,3, Mr man, who is the God of Yahweh? Why is it that Yahweh has no God?
cc : @ zodiakzax , U done run away ?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 2:41pm On Nov 17, 2018
johnw47:
mumu man onej, i copy God's word, and of course you don't believe it

Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ, john called Him "the Almighty"
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Mumu LIAR.

"To him (Jesus) who loves us & has made us... to serve his God and Father" Rev 1:5,6.

Rev 1:8 says the Lord God, Yahweh , the Almighty. who has "given all authority in heaven and on the earth " (Matt28:18) to Jesus Christ to bear the same title( Rev22:13)
OneJ:
"Brought Forth" is synonymous with "parturition" ( to produce offspring) put that sense into your mumu brain.
Your last paragraph ( " God bringing forth Wisdom ...is not described as creating him."wink. is proof that U & where U copy the stuff, una be confirmed mumu.

How did Yahweh bring forth creation ?

https://biblehub.com/greek/5453.htm
Definition: Bring forth, produce.
2. to beget,bring forth,produce, to be born

Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God," Rev 3:14. (Prov 8:22-30)
"(Jesus Christ) is the FIRST BORN of all creation" ( Col 1:15 ) created by Yahweh, his God & Father.

Be humble and let the truth reset your mumu brain .
Mumu LIAR.
Yahweh is not Jesus Christ.

"To him (Jesus) who loves us & has made us... to serve his God and Father" Rev 1:5,6.

Rev 1:8 says the Lord God, Yahweh , the Almighty. who has "given all authority in heaven and on the earth " (Matt28:18) to Jesus Christ to bear the same title( Rev22:13. )
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 2:23pm On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
Revelation 3:14 the Greek work arche means beginning, origin or Source, same words used for God and Christ as the beginning and the end. So in other words He's the source or originator of Gods creation. He Jesus was the creator..
"Reuben, you are my first born, my might and the beginning of my strength" (WEB)
Gen 49:3

"Reuben, the first born of Israel". 1 Chr5:1.
He ,Reuben is the source of Abraham, peddlers of falsehood !
keep deceiving yourselves
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 9:52am On Nov 17, 2018
johnw47:
@bold, i see yours


Pro 8:24  When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.


i was brought forth
H2342
חִיל    חוּל
chûl    chı̂yl
khool, kheel
A primitive root; properly to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), that is, (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain (especially of parturition) or fear; figuratively to wait, to pervert: - bear, (make to) bring forth, (make to) calve, dance, drive away, fall grievously (with pain), fear, form, great, grieve, (be) grievous, hope, look, make, be in pain, be much (sore) pained, rest, shake, shapen, (be) sorrow (-ful), stay, tarry, travail (with pain), tremble, trust, wait carefully (patiently), be wounded.

Total KJV occurrences: 58


they are the meanings that chûl chı̂yl can be used for

God bringing forth Wisdom-the Word from Himself is not described as creating Him,
but is described figuratively as a painful event similar in some way to bringing a child forth out of a woman
"Brought Forth" is synonymous with "parturition" ( to produce offspring) put that sense into your mumu brain.
Your last paragraph ( " God bringing forth Wisdom ...is not described as creating him."wink. is proof that U & where U copy the stuff, una be confirmed mumu.

How did Yahweh bring forth creation ?

https://biblehub.com/greek/5453.htm
Definition: Bring forth, produce.
2. to beget,bring forth,produce, to be born

Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God," Rev 3:14. (Prov 8:22-30)
"(Jesus Christ) is the FIRST BORN of all creation" ( Col 1:15 ) created by Yahweh, his God & Father.

Be humble and let the truth reset your mumu brain .
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:17am On Nov 17, 2018
johnw47:
oh duh false jw onej, father of mumu's

verse 12 Father is Jesus God, what is your problem with that?

verse 14 i'm thinking that Jesus had a beginning as a seperate person to god
God bought Him forth from Himself
being God's own spirit He has always existed,
other christians have diffrent and good ideas on that also,
but of course it's lengthy and i won't be wasting time on you unbelieving false jw onej

verse 21 Jesus sit's with Father on Fathers throne, supporting john 1:1 God and the Word is God
U are " thinking Jesus had a beginning as a separate person"
God brought him forth (The dictionary told me taught me "BROUGHT FORTH" means created,)
See your lies " God brought him forth from himself, being God's own spirit , he has always existed"
Yet U are " (I'm ) thinking Jesus had a beginning"

Lol......
Leave your mumu doctrine make your brain reset your sense

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:16am On Nov 17, 2018
johnw47:
oh duh false jw onej, father of mumu's

verse 12 Father is Jesus God, what is your problem with that?

verse 14 i'm thinking that Jesus had a beginning as a seperate person to god
God bought Him forth from Himself
being God's own spirit He has always existed,
other christians have diffrent and good ideas on that also,
but of course it's lengthy and i won't be wasting time on you unbelieving false jw onej

verse 21 Jesus sit's with Father on Fathers throne, supporting john 1:1 God and the Word is God
U are " thinking Jesus had a beginning as a separate person"
God brought him forth (The dictionary told me taught me "BROUGHT FORTH" means created,)
See your lies " God brought him forth from himself, being God's own spirit , he has always existed"
Yet U are " (I'm ) thinking Jesus had a beginning"

Lol......

Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:03am On Nov 17, 2018
zodiakzax:
If you were following his arguments you would know what he was saying, but bcs you lots don't read u hardly follow the points we are making, go back and read his posts
What did Rev 3:12,14 & 21 say about your mumu doctrine, Trinity?
pls give your response to my posers :
Where in your Bible did Jesus give authority or command to Yahweh?
The God & Father of Jesus is Yahweh. John 20:17. Eph 1:2,3, Mr man, who is the God of Yahweh? Why is it that Yahweh has no God?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 12:41am On Nov 17, 2018
@johnw47,
the falsified KJV insertion in Rev 1:11 ,the fake verse u dey take parole your mumu doctrine.
A little research would have saved u from that forgery u are posted here.
Jesus said. "all authority have been given me in heaven and on the earth matt 28:18.
His God Yahweh gave him (Christ) authority to bear the title of Alpha & Omega.
Yahweh made Jesus both lord & Christ. Acts2:36
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:36pm On Nov 16, 2018
johnw47:
poor tormented onej, father of mumu's, of course you know nothing and like tat don't believe God
Author of mumu posts. U have cited Rev 3:7-22 What did Rev 3:12,14,21 say about your mumu doctrine, Trinity ?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:18pm On Nov 16, 2018
OneJ:
Cherry picking are duz U no good.
"By the power of his spirit, the LORD GOD has sent me". (CEV)

"And now the Sovereign Lord has sent me, endowed with his spirit" (NIV)

"The LORD GOD has sent me, accompanied by his spirit" (BSB)

" Now the Lord Yahweh has sent me, with his spirit" (WEB)

Isaiah 48:16 are pour San San for the garri of Trinitarian claims U dey yarn for here.
KJV has many forgeries & spurious insertions , that's why peddlers of Trinity fancy it so much.
zodiakzax:
grin grin grin are we not saying the same thing? undecided undecided undecided, Now the Lord Yahweh has sent me, with His Spirit (WEB)

And now the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has sent me, and his spirit (NWT) that's your own bible...

Now it seems you didn't even take your time to read the scripture, who do you think is the speaker here?


It's like you are in lower grade where we need to teach you how to read and analyse things correctly and carefully, so take your time and read again for the benefit of the doubt that you don't know what you are saying....

Yahweh is the speaker and Yahweh said Yahweh and His Spirit sent Him Yahweh, that is the point i am making


So who is this Yawhwh speaking? And who is this Yahweh the sender? And how is this Spirit also the sender?
The placement of the comma (,) in both NWT and WEB, that in itself has explained what that Isaiah 48: 16 really means.- Yahweh gave his spirit (to endow, empower) the one Yahweh has sent.
For clarity, I had to post different renditions of that scripture, but your mind & heart is foreclosed to see it.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:02pm On Nov 16, 2018
johnw47:
oh lying false jw tat, truly paul was not talking about all the congregations of the same church,
or all the congregations of the false jw's church


1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

churches means different churches, not different congregations of the same church

they were scattered afar and had doctrinal differences, for instance the Churches in philadelphia and laodicea
were not different congregations of the same church, but were clearly different denominations of the christian church


To the Church in Philadelphia, who endure in God's word

Rev 3:7  And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; 
Rev 3:8  I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 
Rev 3:9  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. 
Rev 3:10  Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 
Rev 3:11  Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 
Rev 3:12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 
Rev 3:13  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 


To the Church in Laodicea, who hold to the doctrine-gospel of prosperity

Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 
Rev 3:15  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 
Rev 3:16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 
Rev 3:17  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 
Rev 3:18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 
Rev 3:19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 
Rev 3:20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 
Rev 3:21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 
Rev 3:22  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Mumu wey no know the meaning of "Church" & "Congregation".
Your brain needs deliverance... Lol.

Did U actually read & study Rev 3:12 &21 ?
Both verses confirmed that your Trinity doctrine & your brain are corrupted with mumu virus.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:08pm On Nov 16, 2018
zodiakzax:
12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last. 13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. 14 All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans. 15 I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous. [b]16 come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

We see that Yahweh is the speaker from chapter 48, and Yahweh made some bold or confusing statements by saying in vs 16 that Yahweh and His Spirit sent Him Yahweh, confusing right? How can Yahweh and His Spirit send Yahweh?  ... unless there's a Godhead, The Father, The Son (obviously the speaker here) and the Holy Spirit...
Cherry picking are duz U no good.
"By the power of his spirit, the LORD GOD has sent me". (CEV)

"And now the Sovereign Lord has sent me, endowed with his spirit" (NIV)

"The LORD GOD has sent me, accompanied by his spirit" (BSB)

" Now the Lord Yahweh has sent me, with his spirit" (WEB)

Isaiah 48:16 are pour San San for the garri of Trinitarian claims U dey yarn for here.
KJV has many forgeries & spurious insertions , that's why peddlers of Trinity fancy it so much.
Christianity EtcRe: Shocking Facts About Jehovah's Witnesses Founder (A Must Read) by OneJ:
@ Primesky,
1 Peter 3:19,20 must be read & studied together or U miss the message in it.
Gen 6:1-4,Jude 1:6 , 1 Peter 3:19,20 to understand Peter's epistle.
1 kings22:20,21 "a spirit" mentioned there is actually the angel who volunteered to go on that mission stated in both verses.

(Yahweh) makes his angels spirits,his ministers a flaming fire" Ps104:4.
"Are not all angels ministering spirits....? Hebrew 1:14.

In Job 27:3, what is the spirit of God in Job's nostrils being referred to?
The Bible says " Yahweh breathed into his nostrils, the breath of life and the man became a living soul ". Gen 2:7.

U don't seem to understand matt 26:41. pls read& study Romans 7:15-21. Gal 5:17.
It's obvious U have a shallow understanding of how the word "spirit" is used in various Bible verses & what it's real meaning is , in those verses.
Pls cast away your prejudices & study God's word with JWs.... U have so much to learn, I tell U !
Shalom
Christianity EtcRe: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by OneJ: 10:46pm On Nov 15, 2018
Anas09:
No matter how much one tries to lift your perception and make you see with your mind instead of with your eye, you can't. The WachTower blinds are too thick on you.

You have no clue who Jehovah is.
Mumu post.
Was John 14:28 . Matt 3:17 & 16:13-17 written by the Watchtower ?
With your mumu perception corrupted by mumu doctrine ,U have already denied who Jehovah is .
Jehovah ,the Only true God is not a triune god fabricated by the delusions of mortals like U.
Christianity EtcRe: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by OneJ:
Anas09:
Jehovah's Witnesses with their literal understanding of Scriptures.

Pls how is Jesus the Son of God considering that every Son must have a father and mother.
Jesus said "the Father is greater than I" ,it's very precise and to the point.
What message is Jesus passing on to U in John 14:28?
Angels are the "sons of God", ( Job 1:6. 38:7) yet they have no mother.
Likewise, Jesus is the son of God (Matt3:17. 16:13-17
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:18pm On Nov 15, 2018
@ johnw47,
"In the beginning existed the word, and the word existed with the god ,and a god was the word" John 1:1 ( Sahidic Coptic Bible, 2nd Century CE).

Mumu ,offspring of Satan, Jesus said Yahweh is the only true God and the Father of Jesus Christ. Psalms 83:18. John20:17. 17:3.

Una dey call them ( Adeboye , Oyedepo , Chris Oyas, etc) "Father, Daddy G.O " ,
U all agree your status is inferior to theirs, but U rejected Jesus Christ's inferior status to Yahweh, his Father (John 14:28)
Mumu doctrine done corrupt your brains finish. When Una go get common sense ?
cc: brocab
Christianity EtcRe: Birthday Celebration Is Egoistic, Hence A Tool Satan Uses To Carry Out His Plans by OneJ: 12:48pm On Nov 15, 2018
Perfectbeing:
Do research on the origins of the days of the week and the months of the year. Then tell me why Christians like you don't discard it's use... Hypocites...
The days, weeks , u ,months & years originated from God,(Gen 1:14,15) . But at different times, men named them according to their culture & beliefs (God's people, the Jews had theirs too.) .
In this part of the world, the names we call each day such as "Monday, Tuesday, Sunday etc, has no religious significance attached to it.
Christianity EtcRe: Birthday Celebration Is Egoistic, Hence A Tool Satan Uses To Carry Out His Plans by OneJ: 12:09pm On Nov 15, 2018
Perfectbeing:
Just one verse of the bible that's against birthday celebration and you're writing all these... Even if its
Obedience is better than sacrifice.
1 sam15:22
"Find out what pleases the Lord",...
understand what the Lord's will is"
Eph 5:10,17.
Christianity EtcRe: Birthday Celebration Is Egoistic, Hence A Tool Satan Uses To Carry Out His Plans by OneJ:
1) The Bible said king herod who is a pagan celebrated his birthday (Matt14:1-12) and king pharaoh ,also a pagan celebrated his birthday (Gen 40:20), yet U claimed that "the Bible never said birthdays are a pagan custom and we must abstain from such"
U are a LIAR .
The fact that both Pharaoh and king Herod were pagans confirmed birthdays celebration was indeed pagan custom not practiced by men of God or followers of Christ.

"Now that you know God, or rather are known by God,- how is it that you are turning back to... OBSERVING SPECIAL DAYS AND MONTHS AND SEASONS AND YEARS. I fear for you that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you" Galatians 4:8-11.
What were the "observing of special days and months and seasons and years" which Apostle Paul condemned ?
Birthdays, feast days &orgies for gods and goddesses etc.
"And find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness" Eph 5:10,11.
It pleased Christ and men of faith, not to celebrate birthdays (why should we deviate from their examples?1 cor 11:1) because it is the dead works of paganism.

2) Does secular history confirm that Gen 40:20. & matt14:1-12 were accurate ? Yes.
He dey claim say him no know, arrogant hearts putting up false pretences.
3)
"Pharaoh did more good and no evil " just like the rich young man who did "more good" and kept all the Laws but rejected Jesus Christ instruction "come be my follower" Matt 19:16-24.
"To obey is better than sacrifice" of good works 1 sam15:22.
Everything in the scriptures was written to teach us, (ROM 15:4), not take it for granted because it's unpopular to accept.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 10:20am On Nov 15, 2018
johnw47:
God certinally does have a people for His name,
they are people from all the churches of the saints:

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

it is clear from all false jw's lies and confusion and blindness and crazyness, etc. etc. etc.
that the false jw church is a church of satan
Mumu offspring of Satan spewing falsehood.
Nobody anywhere is equal to anyone he calls "My Father" or says "he is like a father to me".
Does Yahweh have a Father /God ?
Consistently, Jesus Christ himself said he has a Father. Fact.
Go dump your mumu doctrine inside dustbin.

The popular rendition of John 1:1 "the word was God" contradicts the fact of Jesus Christ calling himself a son.
John 1:1 is the same as Acts 12:22, 28:6 (KJV).
The same rule apply to each of them. They should all read "a god."
Only fraudulent people bend the rules, that's what these Trinity fraudsters did to John 1:1.
Christianity EtcRe: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by OneJ: 9:24am On Nov 15, 2018
Shelumiel:
The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are a manifestation of the same thing : God . So none of them is greater . In fact, there is a certain equality among them , especially when it comes to decision making . Take a look at Genesis1:26 and Genesis 11:7. Hope this helps .
Jesus said "the Father is greater than I" john14:28. Why do U choose to lie against Jesus ?
Twister of truth
Christianity EtcRe: Shocking Facts About Jehovah's Witnesses Founder (A Must Read) by OneJ: 10:04pm On Nov 14, 2018
@Primesky, in matt 10:20, John 14:17,16:13 & 15:26 were the words of Jesus Christ himself.
The words in those verses were spoken by Jesus Christ after he received the holy spirit when he was baptized Matt 3:16,17.
Even the words Jesus heard at his baptism where not spoken by the holy spirit , but spoken by Yahweh who said "this is my son whom I love"
(ii) Throughout the length and breadth of the Bible, Yahweh had one on one conversations with his servants (Moses, Abraham etc) on many occasions.. Christ himself did the same, he spoke to people at different times.
My question for U:

(iii) in your Bible, where did the holy spirit have. one on one conversation with somebody?

(iv) " The spirit of my Father speaking THROUGH YOU" God's spirit always function through some one because it is not a person.

v) The Father name na Yahweh ,Him son name. na Jesus, what is the name of the holy spirit? Why eee no get name.?

The holy spirit is the power of Yahweh at work to accomplish whatever Yahweh wants.
Christianity EtcRe: Shocking Facts About Jehovah's Witnesses Founder (A Must Read) by OneJ: 10:02pm On Nov 14, 2018
To be filled with holy spirit is not the same thing as demon possession.
Does God exit from heaven & take up residence inside U ?
Christianity EtcRe: Shocking Facts About Jehovah's Witnesses Founder (A Must Read) by OneJ:
Primesky, bawoni ? "The real man is a spirit dwelling in a body. If he, the spirit is not in the body, the body is dead. the spirit is different from the breath of life"
The holy scriptures says NO !
Eccl 3:19-21
"Man's fate is like that of animals... as one dies,so dies the other. ALL HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT. Man has no advantage over the animal.
v20 "ALL goes to the same place, all comes from dust; and to dust all return."
21 " Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of animals goes down into the earth?"

"Do not put your trust in princes in mortal men who can not save. When their spirit departs they return to the ground"
Psalms 146:3,4.

"When you (Yahweh) take away their breath, they die and return to the dust" Psalms 104:29

The breath of life is the 'spirit' in man and animals.
" The body (of man and animals) with out spirit (breath of life) is dead, so faith with out deeds is dead" James 2:26.
Yahweh the Creator of man and animals can not lie. Num23:19.
The breath of life is not a spirit being. Demons are spirit beings, like wise angels.
Primesky,man is not a spirit being.how many angels and demons U dey see everyday?
Your claims are not scriptural.
No dull yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:43am On Nov 13, 2018
brocab:
{Joel 2:28-29} “And it shall come to pass afterward,
That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
Had you read, the Spirit is Gods Spirit!, So if the Spirit was a active force, then Jehovah is a active force..
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions.
And also on My menservants and on My maidservants-I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
Again God said: He will pour out His Spirit-is God a active force!
This is how to identify mumu brains soaked up with junk gospel of mumu doctrine.
U dey lie say God pour himself inside sons & daughters, old men & young men, men servants & maid servants.
According to your mumu, these persons done become "spirit" wey enter them.
No wonder Pilate convicted your "God" & hanged "him" on a tree..
God pour himself inside U, yet mumu ,falsehood & arrogance full your body like virus.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 1:31pm On Nov 10, 2018
johnw47:
you love saying that because i post God's word which you don't believe




oh lying false jw, you have called Jesus-YAHWEH "a god" many times
and you of course don't believe all the scriptures i posted showing that Jesus is YAHWEH



ha ha, talk about twisting-lying and confusion
false jw onej, i did indeed explain the truth
and certinally not the confusion that you speak




false jw onej, you are so confused, such a false accuser, lie like hell, don't believe God's word,
and you are disturbed and tormented

but you deserve it smiley
Abeg make una ask this mumu brained fellow na who be him "Jesus-YAHWEH "?
johnw47, do U now see how your mumu brain works?

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