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Righteousness89:
see the twisted GOD's word to fool yourself..

Unbeliever of what ?
Read the whole Chapter and stop misleading yourself

"Let not the wife depart from her husband. But and if she depart (on flimsy excuses , quarrel etc),let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife" ( that is , divorce on flimsy excuses,, due to "hardness of your hearts" is disapproved.Matt 19:8. )
(Divorce based on marital unfaithfulness is approved Matt 19:9.)
v12,13 a couple should agree to live together even if they have different beliefs.

v15 " If the unbelieving depart, let him depart.A brother or sister is NOT UNDER BONDAGE IN SUCH CASES: but God hath called us to peace" 1 Cor 7:10-15.KJV

You are NOT UNDER BONDAGE to your wayward spouse who elopes with his/her part time lover.

Paul says that God hath called you to peace & find love with some one else. Paul means that U can divorce & remarry.
U no dey understand English ?

LIAR, stop twisting the word of God.

Righteousness89:
see the twisted GOD's word to fool yourself..

Unbeliever of what ?
Read the whole Chapter and stop misleading yourself

"Let not the wife depart from her husband. But and if she depart (on flimsy excuses , quarrel etc),let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife" ( that is , divorce on flimsy excuses,, due to "hardness of your hearts" is disapproved.Matt 19:8. )
(Divorce based on marital unfaithfulness is approved Matt 19:9.)
v12,13 a couple should agree to live together even if they have different beliefs.

v15 " If the unbelieving depart, let him depart.A brother or sister is NOT UNDER BONDAGE IN SUCH CASES: but God hath called us to peace" 1 Cor 7:10-15.

You are NOT UNDER BONDAGE to your wayward spouse who elopes with his/her part time lover.

Paul says that God hath called you to peace & find love with some one else. Paul means that U can divorce & remarry.
U no dey understand English ?

LIAR, stop twisting the word of God.

Righteousness89:
see the twisted GOD's word to fool yourself..

Unbeliever of what ?
Read the whole Chapter and stop misleading yourself

"Let not the wife depart from her husband. But and if she depart (on flimsy excuses , quarrel etc),let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife" ( that is , divorce on flimsy excuses,, due to "hardness of your hearts" is disapproved.Matt 19:8. )
(Divorce based on marital unfaithfulness is approved Matt 19:9.)
v12,13 a couple should agree to live together even if they have different beliefs.

v15 " If the unbelieving depart, let him depart.A brother or sister is NOT UNDER BONDAGE IN SUCH CASES: but God hath called us to peace" 1 Cor 7:10-15.

You are NOT UNDER BONDAGE to your wayward spouse who elopes with his/her part time lover.

Paul means that U can divorce & remarry.

LIAR, stop twisting the word of God.

Anas09:
I am with you on this. But the JW guy is completely lost when we begin to talk about trinity. Anytime that word is mentioned, their minds flies to three distinct persons working in agreement as gods.

Keep believing what your Bible did not say. U now wanna delve into another topic (Trinity) foreign to this thread to justify yourself.
Yet your trinitarian creeds (Athanasian creed & the Nicene creed ) contradict each other. Why ? Lies are always contradictory.
U & your father are equal, U & your father are one person. Whatever U have ,he gave U
.Still, U receive orders from him & U have never given him any order to obey..
Confused bunch.
No wonder, una "sense" dey over the level of sense.... Lol

Anas09:
I am with you on this. But the JW guy is completely lost when we begin to talk about trinity. Anytime that word is mentioned, their minds flies to three distinct persons working in agreement as gods.

Keep believing what your Bible did not say. U now wanna delve into another topic (Trinity) foreign to this thread to justify yourself.
Yet your trinitarian creeds (Athanasian creed & the Nicene creed ) contradict each other. Why ? Lies are always contradictory.
U & your father are equal, U & your father are one person. Whatever U have ,he gave U
.Still, U receive orders from him & U have never given him any order to obey..
Confused bunch.
No wonder, una "sense" na over sense.... Lol

Righteousness89:
Whats your point Sir!
If you wanna obey GOD, Obey HIM!
if u wanna go your way, it's ur choice!

You cannot modify GOD'S WORD to suit yourself..

If you hv a red letter Bible you will know those words were words directly from JESUS CHRIST!!

Everyone will give Account for Himself! But at least u can't claim u don't know the Truth!

Jesus himself approved divorce & the scriptures endorsed remarriage when your former spouse is alive.
"If the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman IS NOT BOUND IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES..." 1 Cor 7:15.
Do U grasp what Paul said? If your spouse decides to quit your marriage (in spite of your sincere efforts to make your Union succeed),let her go. "Can two walk together except they agree? " Amos 3:3. Paul said " You are NOT BOUND IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES" to your run away spouse who elopes with some one else.. U are free to remarry. Go obtain a legal divorce & set yourself free.

U are actually the one who modify the holy scriptures to mislead others.

OneJ:
Matt 19:6-9
v9"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, EXCEPT FOR MARITAL UNFAITHFULNESS, and marries another woman commits adultery"

From a biblical standpoint, Jesus himself approved divorce when one or both spouses goes outside the marriage arena , which violates the marriage union (Hebrew 13:4. 1 Cor 7:2).

The other option is forgiveness, if U don't wanna go the divorce route (Col 3:12-14) "Bear with each other & forgive whatever grievances you may have against another."

Pls shine your eyes here.... with understanding.
If a spouse quits his /her marriage, to carry on with another woman/man, that spouse is guilty of defilement of the marriage union. He is an unbeliever (who no longer believes in) your marriage,so let him/her go. Nsogbu adighi.
Pls Go obtain a legal divorce & set yourself free to remarry again.

"But if an unbeliever leaves, let him/her do so. A believing man or woman is NOT BOUND IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES. " 1 Cor 7:15.

Because she divorced a serial cheat & Casanova, make she no marry again ?
Dump that crap into a dustbin!!!
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Go & marry again. It's your God-given right. "For God has called you to live in peace".
NOT in pieces of emotional trauma ,man made induced guilt & stigma.

cc : stagger

Righteousness89:
From The Scriptures, it says Except it be for Fornication.
What is Fornication? Fornication is Sexual intercourse between people not married to themselves.
Fornication is Infidelity ..

A man who finds his wife on bed with another man , will definitely get mad, angry and all that.

Now, if that happens in Marriage and The Man cannot bare it and forgive the Woman. If he chases such a woman , He is not permitted to get Married to Any Other Woman. Except at the death of that His lawfully wedded wife who he chased out!

Look at Luke 16:18 for clearer explanation

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth Adultery

Righteousness89:
From The Scriptures, it says Except it be for Fornication.
What is Fornication? Fornication is Sexual intercourse between people not married to themselves.
Fornication is Infidelity ..

A man who finds his wife on bed with another man , will definitely get mad, angry and all that.

Now, if that happens in Marriage and The Man cannot bare it and forgive the Woman. If he chases such a woman , He is not permitted to get Married to Any Other Woman. Except at the death of that His lawfully wedded wife who he chased out!

Look at Luke 16:18 for clearer explanation

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth Adultery

Matt 19:3-9, is a more comprehensive account of what Christ said about marriage & divorce, than Luke's account in Luke 16:18. U don't seem to grasp & thoroughly comprehend that.
U said some one divorced can not remarry until their former spouse dies. Do U really know the meaning of the word "divorce"?
U just dey put people for bondage & enforce guilty complex on them with your satanic doctrine. Nawa ooo !

Righteousness89:
Bro Read the Bible with Understanding..

Matthew 19:6-9 is very clear...

V.9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

If you hv to put away your wife, you are not permitted to Marry another woman.

The Bible says Marriage is till death do you part.. The Bible cannot contradict itself..

Death is the the only thing permitted for a man to Re-Marry..

GOD even hates Divorce see Malachi 2:16

Bro , God hates sin but accepts repentant sinners (2chr 33:1,6,10-13). Likewise God hated the divorce that ancient Israelites obtained on flimsy excuses. "Jesus replied ,'Moses permitted you to divorce your wife because your hearts were hard.'." Mal 2:14, Matt 19:3,7,8.

Jesus said "MARITAL UNFAITHFULNESS" (adultress/adulterer) of either spouse is a valid reason for divorce, that is dissolution of the marriage covenant. Matt 19:9.
If that marriage union is not properly dissolved, U commit adultery when U marry him/her.
Apostle Paul said that death dissolves a marriage covenant. Romans 7:2,3 .

Going by Jesus explicit statement in Matt19:9 & Paul's epistle in Rom7:2,3, "By Law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive".
In other words , a woman divorced for "marital unfaithfulness" is not bound to any husband whether dead or alive.
That is, a woman/man commits adultery when she/he marries someone whose marriage union (that is, their previous marriage ) was not properly dissolved, (either traditionally by the refund of bride price or a Court of Law). The violation of a covenant by either party to the agreement renders it null & void.
The proper dissolution of any marriage sets both partners free.

TRUE LIFE Story...
A married couple lived together for a decade with out any issues. The man was a serial cheat & philanderer. He infected her with STD.& coupled with taunts from in laws over her childless state. She was heartbroken.
She meticulously gathered all the evidence she needed & eventually sued for divorce. The Court of Law annulled the marriage.

Today this woman has remarried & she is a proud mother of two kids in a happy & stable marriage..

God allows divorce & it's NO SIN to remarry when your former spouse is alive.

God has called you to peace not man made bondage or stigma.

olsome:
The Bible condemns re-marrying when your spouse is still alive; but why do some pastors encourage it?? Are they reading newspaper or the Bible?? Some churches even join couples who have divorced and spouse is still alive..

The only supported re-marriage is when ones spouse is dead...

Add your contribution, but if you disagree, create your own Bible...

Righteousness89:
Re- Marrying while your spouse is alive is Adultery, No matter who conducts such Marriage.... Infact it's not a marriage.. it's an act of Immorality!

See Matt 19:6-9

Ubenedictus:
civil divorce does not seperate a valid marriage according to Jesus any attempt to remarry is adultery.

Matt 19:6-9
v9"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, EXCEPT FOR MARITAL UNFAITHFULNESS, and marries another woman commits adultery"

From a biblical standpoint, Jesus himself approved divorce when one or both spouses goes outside the marriage arena , which violates the marriage union (Hebrew 13:4. 1 Cor 7:2).

The other option is forgiveness, if U don't wanna go the divorce route (Col 3:12-14) "Bear with each other & forgive whatever grievances you may have against another."

Pls shine your eyes here.... with understanding.
If a spouse quits his /her marriage, to carry on with another woman/man, that spouse is guilty of defilement of the marriage union. He is an unbeliever (who no longer believes in) your marriage,so let him/her go. Nsogbu adighi.
Pls Go obtain a legal divorce & set yourself free to remarry again.

"But if an unbeliever leaves, let him/her do so. A believing man or woman is NOT BOUND IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES. " 1 Cor 7:15.

Because she divorced a serial cheat & Casanova, make she no marry again ?
Dump that crap into a dustbin!!!
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Go & marry again. It's your God-given right. "For God has called you to live in peace".
NOT in pieces of emotional trauma ,man made induced guilt & stigma.

ResLight:
What sign would that be? Wheat? Rutherford evidently included wheat as a symbol of the harvest, referring to the Bible.

Nevertheless, Russell did teach the rebirth as spoken of the Bible, the regeneration as new creatures in Christ.

Russell also used the scriptures to refute the reincarnation doctrine.



I am not with the JWs (nor was Russell ever a member of the JWs.) What book are you referring to?

If it is referring to "sun of righteousness symbol" (Malachi 4:2) that Russell used, that Biblical symbolism is not the of symbol of Ma'at.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat

Some of my own research regarding Russell's "Sun of Righteousness" Symbol:
http://rlctr..com/2016/12/sunright.html



Russell's books are still being published, although very few publishers make use of the "sun of righteousness" symbol, but some do. I do not know that the non-use of the symbol by many publishers, however, has anything to do with what people are imagining and assuming regarding such Biblical symbolism.
https://www.biblestandard.com/studies.html



If this is in reference to the name "Watch Tower," Russell took the "Watch Tower" symbolism from the Bible itself. One can see some of my related research at:
http://rlctr..com/2016/11/wtsymbol.html

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Mcking11 & his copy & paste cohorts on NL always goes to unimaginable lengths to distort, misrepresent the truth & peddle falsehood.
Very crooked fellows .

jiggaz:
No.. They are in heaven.

Kikikikikikiki ..... Na spacecraft carry them reach there ?
Pls prove your claim with the holy scripture.

Pastorpreneur must to hold tight him feeding bottle. Or the results would be inconclusive.
If U know U know.

Primesky:
Seriously?!. OK, I have modified and copied you on those questions. After you've answered them, you can repeat your own questions. Please, as a 'Jehovah witness' I think you should be civil, so that I can learn from you, or shouldn't I?. No offence

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I will give a response. Pls be patient.

Emusan:
Knowledge is far from you...

God is the creator of everything.....

If soul is immortal does it mean God who created it can't destroy it? Ode

Is it not what Jesus statement meant to address in Matt & Luke? Yet you people couldn't wrap your dull skull over...

So you mean after resurrection all those who will wear immortality can't be destroyed by God again if He decided to do so? Simply because they're now immortal!

You people don't think before you type...

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"If soul is immortal does it mean God who created it cant destroy it ? Ode ??"

He claimed that the soul is immortal but has conceded that a Higher Power (God) can destroy the soul, that which he claims to be immortal.
(He speaks with both sides of his mouth. Lol.).

"Jehovah is truly God. He is the Living God& the eternal king. (Jer 10:10. ).
"The King eternal ,IMMORTAL, invisible, the ONLY GOD" (1 Tim 1:16,) the ONLY TRUE GOD (John17:3.Mat 16:13-17), ( the Father of Jesus Christ) Jehovah alone is truly IMMORTAL.


Receive sense.

Emusan:
I'm awaiting you also with evidence of well known scholars who supported you assertion.





But what Jesus said was that MAN can KILL the Body but can't KILL the soul...

Why would Jesus make such statement if there's something in man, MEN can't destroy?



It's just so unfortunate that I have to be spoon feeding you like a baby...

God has power to KILL AND DESTROY both the BODY and SOUL....

If God destroyed someone WHAT WILL SURVIVE from that person again?

No! It doesn't spell it out THAT NOTHING SURVIVE THOSE men, it strictly means that ONLY GOD HAS POWER TO ELIMINATE ANYONE unlike human who can only kill but has nothing to do after that...

I don't know why simple English is so difficult for you to comprehend...

NOTE: If your reply will make me to repeat myself on this I won't reply you unless if you clarify what you THINK Jesus meant on those verses.

Since U have agreed (in your bolded print) that God himself can kill & destroy the soul why do U still stick to the lie that the soul is immortal.

BTW, kill is synonymous (same as ) destroy. Just as Hebrew nephesh (soul) is translated in your KJV Bible as synonymous with the 'dead' ,'body'.
Source; biblehub (Strong's H5315 nephesh )
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AC Milan can't beat Juventus, but Real Madrid defeated Juventus to lift Champions League. Does it mean that Juventus can not be beaten or defeated ?

If U quarrel with this illustration, pls better U consult a shrink.

Mcking11:
Proven evidence? Check his Wikipedia. You will even read the pyramid stuff there. Where was he buried? I am sure you know. The photos are all over google. It is not about tying to be popular. I am really telling you the truth.

Mcking11:
If at this stage, in this 21st century, you still Cite Wikipedia as your source, then you can never make a good researcher. Wikipedia page has been modified by Jehovah's witnesses to suit their narration.


Ask yourself, that pyramid I posted there who owes it? Google Russell and Pyramid and read up a lot of things. Do you know how many times Russell visited Egypt for pyramids?

You have chosen to brainwashed. I wish you good luck.

Next Sunday or tomorrow, I will post another one that will shock you.

Mcking11 made false claims about Mr Charles Taze Russell & JWs.
The con man directed "icybeth" to that Wikipedia link to support his dubious claims.
Mcking11 has called me "brainwashed", "you still cite Wikipedia as your source".

U are very crooked, dubious fellow & can only deceive the gullible folks on NL & get applauded by your dubious ilk who peddle falsehood against JWs.

"Wikipedia page has been modified by Jehovah's Witnesses to suit their narration".

What a con man U are !
SERIAL LIAR & CORRECT WAYO man spotted.

TATIME:
He has judged himself already because there has never been a time that God refers to adamant unbelievers or critics as PRECIOUS SOULS,rather it's ONLY the souls of the righteous that's PRECIOUS to HIM. 1Peter 2:4,12 So primesky is indirectly saying "your unwavering faith couple with fine works is clear evidence that you're lovable and precious souls,but i can't just understand why i dislike those your teachers that's teaching you to become as lovable and precious as you're right now" Hebrews 13:7 Whereas according to himself and his folks "Jehovah's Witnesses have been brainwashed or deceived by their 'demonic leaders' to become irresistably PRECIOUS" yet his own folks that 'are not deceived nor brainwashed' have remained unproductive so that they're not as PRECIOUS as Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact Satan is truly a mind~blinder 2Corinthians 4:4

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He knows his false allegations & doctrines risks exposure, he perpetually dodges & keeps ranting on & on.
Make him repost his questions, he dey run, rant & make noise.

Primesky:
My dear, can you stop wasting your time by posting these things?

It's like you like quarrel and fights and arguments.

Just answer those simple questions let's have a base to treat other matters, but you have so far refused to do that. Rather, you have elected to dodge them like a plague. But I won't have non of that. When you're ready, I'm ready. You just don't want to give up the lies of Watch Tower.

May God save your soul.

Mr Artful dodger bawo ni ?

U have always been ranting on various NL threads that I dodged your questions. Yet , U have never reposted them so that I would see them & reply.
.That's not fair,to be frank.


PS:

Every serious person on NL can verify the points i made in my previous post, I dare U to prove them false rather than ranting up & down. Last last ,repost your questions.

Mcking11:
It is funny how guys are reacting without bringing facts. Just pumping out noise. The writer of the post made her point. Counter it with facts and stop making noise. You guys criticize other religious groups and hell is not loosened. Today, a tip was just given to you and you are shouting without fact.

Where was Russel buried? Beside him a pyramid was built which he instructed. See the picture.

OP, present the proof that Mr C.T. Russell "instructed" where the. "pyramid was built" or shut up.
U have only made false allegations U were yet to prove. The burden of proof is on U.
"The Grand Lodge of British Columbia & Yukon has said that Russell was not a Freemason & notes that these symbols under discussion used are not exclusive to freemasonry but pre- dates the fraternity "
Russell "believed that Christian identity is incompatible with Freemason"
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell



OP, U are a LIAR.

Primesky:
Jehovah witness is anti Christian in practice. The origin and foundation is faulty. The shocking thing to me is the fact that, the adherent especially the ones here in nairaland, WI go any length including twisting and denying clear truth all in an attempt to defend a lie.

Come out from that cult now before it's too late. Eckanka and Jehovah witness are on the same page.

May God save these precious souls.

SERIAL LIAR spotted.
In another thread, the one who couldn't explain Matt 16:13-17, John 20:30,31. Ephesians 1:3. ,1 Cor 15:24,27. 11:3. to defend his man made fallacy called Trinity.
Laho kpaware.....

Primesky:
Jehovah witness is anti Christian in practice. The origin and foundation is faulty. The shocking thing to me is the fact that, the adherent especially the ones here in nairaland, WI go any length including twisting and denying clear truth all in an attempt to defend a lie.

Come out from that cult now before it's too late. Eckanka and Jehovah witness are on the same page.

May God save these precious souls.

SERIAL LIAR spotted.
The one who couldn't explain Matt 16:13-17, John 20:30,31.Ephesians 1:3. ,1 Cor 15:24,27. 11:3. to defend his man made fallacy called Trinity.
Laho kpaware.....

Mcking11:
And you did not read this part?

'The case was just one of dozens filed nationwide over the past decade alleging Jehovah's Witness officials have mishandled sexual abuse of children, including a $13.5 million award by a San Diego judge in 2014 to a man who was abused by a church leader when he was seven years old.'

''That this case is ONE of THE''. Meaning there have similar case happening in the organization for the past decade. Keep deceiving yourself that all is well.

Ask questions and read books.


Next Sunday i will post one that will shock you.

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In your "one of the" cases in Court, many have been concluded, the majority in favour of JWs & others were settled out of court.
If there was a Judas among the 12, in that regard JW is no exception.
However some of these charges were not entirely factual.
These plaintiffs were often those expelled from the fold for unrepentant wrongdoing.
In advanced countries someone could institute a civil suit against U on the pretext of circumstancial evidence. ( For the dough off course!) . Settling out of Court becomes your last recourse.
JWs indeed have zero tolerance for child abuse.
Our procedure for dealing with such issues ,"The JW Scripturally Based Position on Child Protection" is available & accessible online.
But that means nothing to a prejudiced & biased person like U.
U have nothing to post that would shock me. Unverified ,spurious allegations can't do nufin

mikeolu1:
Read below 3 quotes from the watchtower;

“It is vital that we … respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God.” (Watchtower, June 15, 1957, page 371).

“ Christian … does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by ... “the faithful and discreet slave.”” (Watchtower, August 1, 2001, page 14).

“The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction...” (Watchtower feb 2017)

The problem with these double speak is that most Jehovah’s Witness rank and file do believe the 1st and 2nd quotes above but do not believe the 3rd. The reason being that any witness who mentions any error made by the “slave” will be disfellowshipped aka expulsion from the religion. The consequence of expulsion can be unimaginably horrific. Many have committed suicide after being disfellowshipped.

Very culty.

For anyone reading this who may not know, “slave”, “the faithful and discreet slave” and “The governing Body” are names used synonymously for the 9 guys who lead the 8 millions Jehovah’s Witness. They all live in Warwick NY and are mostly Americans.

Judas Iscariot was excluded from the rank & file of Christ followers, & he committed suicide. Luke 6:16. Mat27:3-5.
Therefore, Christ & his followers were culty.
(Judas was a dissenting voice.They feared Judas would take over leadership of the followers.. Lol )
"Many have committed suicide after being disfellowshipped" LIE LIE LIENUS !
U see your life!

Apostasy & anti JW virus done mess U up
finish. Peddler of falsehood.

Mcking11:
Don't be deceived. Open your eyes on the reality on ground.

A jury ruling this week that the Jehovah's Witnesses must pay $35 million to a woman who says the church covered up her childhood sexual abuse puts a rare public spotlight on the normally insular religious organization, experts say.

NBC News:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/35-million-verdict-puts-spotlight-insular-jehovah-s-witness-community-n914841

That NBC news media reported that the "Watchtower is pursuing appellate review".
The 32 year old woman's claims were dismissed by the Jurors. U no read am ?
U wan judge matter wey US Court never finish the case ,all because U wan trend for NL.

Very crooked !

Mcking11:
Shocking Facts About Jehovah's Witnesses Founder (A Must Read)



When the founder of Jehovah’s witnesses died. “R. T.
Russell” . He was buried on a land he bought prior to his
death. He actually bought it because he wants to be buried on that particular land. And on that land there was a Free Masonry Temple built on it. Russell, got to the 33degree which is the highest attainable status in the Masonic Brotherhood.


A pyramid was built next to his grave. And on his grave
the Crown of life sign of ancient Egypt was designed in
fulfillment of what he requested to be at his grave.
Russell, was obsessed with the pyramids of Giza. He
spent so much time studying about the pyramids and
what it signifies. The sign on his grave signifies “rebirth”
which means reincarnation. But, he never taught his
followers about rebirth or reincarnation.


There was a book published by Jehovah’s witnesses in
the past which had the symbol of the Egyptian laws of
Ma’at. That book was later withdrawn from the public eye
when people started asking about the connection between
Jehovah’s witnesses and the Egyptian symbols.



The “WatchTower” publication of Jehovah’s witnesses
was named after an old brotherhood sect.



Continue reading: https://www.naijxclusive.com/shocking-facts-about-jehovahs-witnesses-founder/

OP, U are a LIAR
"R.T.Russell" is NOT the founder of Jehovah's witnesses.
A peddler of copy & paste falsehood.
U are not the 1st to peddle the falsehood on NL.

U no dey shame to expose your lies ?
The Wikipedia entry , that U gave out to 'icybeth' offered ample proof that Mr C.T.Russell has no ties with Freemasonry.

OP, U are a Confirmed LIAR.

BeingFrank:
Seems you are a member, he has given you some clues, go and do your research. This isn't the first time i'm hearing such things about that organization.

The OP made spurious allegations. intended to defame & malign C.T Russell & Jehovah's name.
The onus rests squarely on the OP to give solid proof, else he is a LIAR & very dishonest.

alBHAGDADI:
Stop using lay man's way to explain spiritual things. That phrase is always accompanied with claims only God can make. God has said He will not share His glory. What you are saying in essence is that He shared His glory with angels. That is wrong.

"Angel of God" is not the meaning U are giving to it.
I have never by any stretch of the imagination implied that God "shared His glory"

alBHAGDADI:
That Being never spoke as a third party. No o e would believe if a third party is making a promise on behalf of the one to fulfil it.

The Being was addressed as Jehovah all through. You can't take a phrase like "is anything too hard for Jehovah" and say it shows he was dissociating himself from Jehovah. Anybody can talk like that. The verse below shatters your point. According to you, it would have been "And the Lord said, "Shall the LORD hide from Abraham... "





Genesis 18:17

And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;

Note that the men (angels) were still with Abraham when that promise in v14 was made. An angel stood in for God .Not God himself,else Exodus 33:20,23 is a lie. (Pls read & digest. Jgs 6:11-22. Hebrew 13:1,2).

Gen 18:17-19, wasn't a speech to Abraham . Rather, it was a soliloquy of God's thoughts & plans for Abraham. (Read v17-19 well well ).

Gen 18: 20,21 "Then the LORD (Jehovah) said,: I will go down & see..." (in heaven HE "sits enthroned on high,who stoops to look on the heavens & earth.. to observe the sons of men" Ps 113:5,6. 11:4. Josh2:11.)

alBHAGDADI:
In your confusion, you couldn't see that I stated that one of the three men seen by Abraham was Jesus. You just rushed to get a screenshot.

The other two men were identify as angels while One was identified as LORD

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The Preface in your Bible states that 'LORD' stands for the Tetragramaton (YHWH) ,Yahweh /Jehovah ,it's not Jesus Christ.
In effect, your claim is tantamount to saying that God's word "You CAN NOT see my face, no one must see my face" (Exodus 33:20-23) is a lie..

When U are sent on a mission, it's obvious to all & sundry that U're bearing the name of the One who sent U & speaking for Him (the Boss). Even Abraham knows that..

The angel can not say "it's anything too hard for me" ? Mbanu !!

He belongs to the One who sent him.
Therefore, the angel rightly said : Is anything too hard for the LORD (Jehovah)?".

Hagar called the angel 'God', she is correct. Jehovah says his creatures are "Gods".
One angel is a God. Gen 16:7-13. Ps82:1,6. Angels are not the Almighty God ,Jehovah, neither is Jesus. Matt 16:13-17

alBHAGDADI:
There is a phrase there "the angel of the Lord" which confuses them. Their Jehivahs witness bible translates it as Jehovah's angel, meaning An angel of God.

They don't know that whenever we see the phrase "the angel of God", it is speaking of God's presence.

Please scroll to see a lengthy post which explains it better.


I am the LORD, that is My name; My glory I give to no other, nor My praise to idols ( Isaiah 42:8 ).

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Going by your claims, likewise man of God means it is God himself speaking.

Just because U wanna lie, U go twist am.

U no dey understand English ? "of" means belonging to something/some one , (Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary).
"Angel of God" meaning belonging to God or Jehovah's angel belongs to Jehovah God.

In other words, the angel belonging to Jehovah God is a representing God who sent him on that mission.
Similar to Arsenal FC of England meaning they're representing England in the Europa League or Champions League