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johnw47:
talk about a mumu brain with no understanding

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

God in that verse is "Elohim" which is plural
now it's not talking about plural gods because we know that God is one
so it is talking about plural persons that is God, and which created the heaven and the earth

and here they are creating man:

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness



Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Your fake John 1:1 is a contradiction of Yahweh's revelation to Simon Peter (Matt 16:13-17. Matt 3:16,17) and the holy Bible.

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm

"Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation" Proverb 8:22.

"Praise be to the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ" Eph 1:3.

" Jesus said ,The scriptures can not be broken (contradicted), I am God's son"
John 10:34-36. Jesus Christ is a god.

After Yahweh created Jesus & other angels, Yahweh said " let us make man in our image"

Jesus Christ is the image of his Father , Yahweh , and the first born of ALL creation"
Col 1:15.

johnw47:
talk about a mumu brain with no understanding

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

God in that verse is "Elohim" which is plural
now it's not talking about plural gods because we know that God is one
so it is talking about plural persons that is God, and which created the heaven and the earth

and here they are creating man:

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness



Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Your fake John 1:1 is a contradiction of Yahweh's revelation to Simon Peter (Matt 16:13-17. Matt 3:16,17) and the holy Bible.

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm

"Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation" Proverb 8:22.

"Praise be to the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ" Eph 1:3.

" Jesus said ,The scriptures can not be broken (contradicted), I am God's son"
John 10:34-36. Jesus Christ is a god.

After he was created, Yahweh said " let us make man in our image"

Jesus Christ is the image of his Father , Yahweh , and the first born of ALL creation"
Col 1:15.

zodiakzax:
..So why will the gods in psalm 82 die like mere men? Do Gods die? ..stupid illiterate... these are jugdes, men who God give opportunity to pronounce judgement.... stupid pagan... if Jesus is a god and angels are gods then God is a fool to say I alone I'm God and apart from me there's none.. there's none before me or after me... then Paul is a fool to say there are many lords and many gods but unto us there's but One God and One Lord...... pagan...idiot

"Praise be to the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ," ( Eph 1:3) Jehovah ,our Father and our God, who said his sons are gods and Jesus Christ his son is a god.
Make eee dey pain U.
The truth is never sweet to the ears & hearts of modern day trinity fraud Pharisees

TruthinAction:
The Scripture never said a day is equivalent to a thousand years. Here what it says,

Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but AS YESTERDAY when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord AS A thousand years, and a thousand years AS ONE day.

The scriptures above never said a thousand years is equivalent to a day. If you still have a problem understanding the difference, please go back to school. It is a figure of speech.

Saying someone is as bold as a lion does not make him a lion.

"One day is with the Lord (Yahweh) as a thousand years"
Yahweh say a thousand years na one day for him eyes.

It's not too late 4U to enrol for Adult Education class & brush up your comprehension skills.

zodiakzax:
Why is Jesus a god?

1) The original language of the New Testament ,Greek , does not differenciate capital letters & small letters, theios meaning god, gods , goddess.
According to Greek language , Jesus is a god.

2. Yahweh. said "the sons of the Most High ", his sons are gods . Psalms 82:6.
(sons is plural, gods is plural too.)
Does Jesus Christ agree ? Yes. John 10:34-36.
Is Jesus Christ the son of God ? Yes. Matt3:16,17. Matt 16:13-17. John 20:17,30,31

Jesus said his Father & his God is our own Father and our own God, Jehovah the Most High.( John 20:17. Ps 83:18) .
Jehovah calls his sons "gods" , therefore, Jesus Christ, Yahweh's son , is a god.
Jesus said the scriptures can not be broken.


That's the killer punch that the trinity crew have twisted & fraudulently claim as "false gods" ( Yahweh no call his sons "false gods, mumu people !) because they cherish the trinity fraud.

@ Truthinaction,
"Genesis 2:17... the death referred to here is spiritual death which later led to physical death....... BIG LIE !
PROOF:
"And Jehovah said, the man has become like one of us , knowing good and bad. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever".
So Jehovah banished him (Adam) from the Garden of Eden.... "
Gen 3:22-24.
It's physical death .... the scripture is very precise on this matter.
Another blow to immortal soul fallacy.

. 2). "Ecclesiastics 9:4-7 this information was written by King Solomon and it is wrong....."
Words of a coded Pharisee who faults the holy Bible because God's word is against your fictitious theory.

"ALL SCRIPTURE is inspired of God and beneficial" ( 2 Tim3:16.) including Ecclesiastics, from Genesis to Revelation.

3)
"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With Yahweh a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"
2 Pet 3:8. Psalms 90:4.

"Adam lived 930 years, and then he died " Genesis 5:5.

Adam died on that day he disobeyed Jehovah because he did not live up to a thousand years, which by Jehovah's estimation is one day.

zodiakzax:
Two gods and two Lords worshippers.. gruni1234 can you see? They are pagans...

zodiakzax wey dey worship triune gods father, son, holy ghost ( a demon. BTW, no ghost is holy.)

Yahweh is "Sovereign Lord resurrected his servant ,(Acts 4:24Jer32:27) Jesus & made him lord and Christ. (Acts 2:36).
The difference is crystal clear.
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zodiakzax is not led by the holy spirit , U be confirmed pagan.

zodiakzax:
...So Jesus is a liar now? ... at one point the apostles couldn't even descern bread from the leaven of the Pharisees..here we go


And when his disciples were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread. Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread. Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread? Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
Matthew 16:5‭-‬11 KJV


The guys obviously didnt understand all that Christ said when he was with them.... Christ even told them He will resurrect but they didn't believe it, they were so sad Christ died that some even disbelieve when they were told Jesus was alive....

JESUS SAID I WILL RESURRECT MYSELF... not the Father will resurrect me.... if we are told the Father did, and the Son also said He will do it by himself then these two are ONE...

He said Jesus confirmed his belief .. Jesus said i will resurrect myself... which one is the confirmation of belief there? .. you wish that wasn't in the bible.... same way Thomas said My Lord and My God...... gone were the days when Jw's stupidly says "no Thomas was shocked so He shouted eii my God and My Lord you go kill me oooo", , now they are even shy of bringing that stupid silly statement out....

Bring proof that your Jesus resurrected himself, U dey do verbal somersaults for here.
When JWs expose your lies , U form another lie to save face..
Yahweh resurrected Jesus his servant. Acts 3:12-15.
Mumu brained LIAR.

Hairyrapunzel:
There is no trap. Na you don set trap for yourself. Meanwhile your colleague said bible made mistake calling Jesus everlasting father.

LIAR !!
U have absolutely no proof .
Your deluded brain fabricated that lie.
U dey lie & U wan put am for another person head.
Na your way.

TruthinAction:
The JW has quite a lot of false teachings but one that blows my mind is that God will not judge us by what we do on earth but by what we do on Judgement Day.

The scriptures they use to back up this false teaching are

1. Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

2. 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Let's examine the first. A dead man certainly is lifeless in his dead body and sin therefore cannot dominate him. But what message is Apostle Paul trying to pass across here. He wants us to see ourselves as those who were dead with Christ and rose again. So, sin should not have dominion over us. He is not saying that the moment you die, you have been discharged of every form of guilt and condemnation for the sins you commit. Even an insane man knows this is a fat lie. So, if I kill someone, I will not be judged by it after death. This is about the most stupid doctrine ever heard. If it's true, it's a sure license to sin and the world will be full of wickedness.

The second Scripture says that one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. But the JW reads it this way - One day is a thousand years and a thousand years is one day. This is not what the verse is saying. This is the use of simile. It does not say one thing is the other but uses the word as or like to compare two things.

U read those verses & what it says is straight forward but because it doesn't sit well with U , U had to twist it out of context , to attack JWs.
Dalu rinne . Ekushe ooo

But w8 a minute, how many times God punish Sodom & Gomorrah, wicked world of Noah's day?
Will God punish them again in the future judgement ?

TheGreenLand:
The JW has quite a lot of false teachings but one that blows my mind is that God will not judge us by what we do on earth but by what we do on Judgement Day...

JW members in the house, please is this true!?
I don't want to believe all these by the OP!

What is judgement day ? what does it mean to U ?

johnw47:
oh bible disbeliever onej, because Father and Son are two persons in the one God, john 1:1, plus other verses galore, sitting on the throne of God




ha ha, oh duh duh, because Jesus is one with Father and sat down with Father

Two persons sitting on how many throne ?
Sawdust brain who claimed that Jesus is Jehovah ,meant that "one with the Father " is one personality /entity, looking for a cheap route of escape.
The trap done hook U ,U wan dagbo your way comot. U forget say Mark no see holy spirit there (who was on summer vacation elsewhere)..

zodiakzax:
OneJ respond to this my friend..

How come your "Jesus is Jehovah" God, yet "sat at the right hand of God ? Mark 16:19

How come your "Jesus is one with the Father & sat down at the right hand of God ?
cc : brocab,
cc: johnw47

brocab:
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a group of people whom the Father have joined together-to be one in Christ Just as Christ is One in the Father.

U claim that "Christ is one in the Father" meaning "Jesus is Jehovah" , therefore U being. "one in Christ" meaning U are Jesus since U are what Jesus is.

How una wan dagbo this matter ?

zodiakzax:
OneJ respond to this my friend..

How come your "Jesus is Jehovah" God, yet "sat at the right hand of God ? Mark 16:19

How come your "Jesus is one with the Father & sat down at the right hand of God ?
cc : brocab,
cc: johnw47

johnw47:
false jw onej
the fact that Jesus said it, is proof for believers
the fact that Jesus is Jehovah is proof for believers

Where eee dey for holy scriptures that Jesus resurrected himself?

(Oh U know where... na Trinity chapter one of falsehood. )

The evidence & attestation of credible witnesses says Jesus Father and God, Yahweh, his Sovereign Lord , resurrected Jesus.

The English words " I will or he will" no be rocket science....
Go forge am how U want..

Acts 3:12, 13,15 is solid, valid evidence. Go throway your lies for dustbin jare

brocab:
The truth will set us free!

The truth can not set U free when U post a fictional, fabricated verse alien to the holy scriptures. U done even deny sef. Na your way.
Eat the humble pie & tender an apology to NL & our guests here..

brocab:
We are not expecting you to understand whom Jesus was, is and is coming back.
{1 Timothy 3:16} God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Stop quoting that blasphemous LIE inserted into your KJV .
He who manifested in the flesh" 1 Tim 3:16. is the authentic rendition.

That's how your gang composed the fiction of 1 John 5:7 & Rev 1:11, in your KJV, Geneva Bible & Douay-Rheims ( all of them translated from the corrupted textus receptus ( TR)16th century manuscript.
Shame go catch U when U research on the origin of that falacy U cherish so much.
LIARS & expert Forgers.

zodiakzax:
OneJ, obviously you failed to address the rest if the things I said.... anyways Jesus said He will raise himself up...I told you it doesnt matter what the disciples believed because Jesus Himself said He will raise himself... was Jesus lying?

zodiakzax claims he is wise but his delusion is legendary.
" anyways Jesus said he will raise himself up..."
zodiakzax, "he will or I will" mean say him resurrection no happen that moment when Jesus talk am. ., (but na for future eee wan happen.)

In John 2:19, Jesus simply confirmed his belief in his forthcoming resurrection.


Cherry picker, Because U dey LIE, U no get ANY proof say Jesus resurrected himself.

The "eye witnesses" of Jesus resurrection , his apostles confirmed that Yahweh resurrected His servant , JesusChrist.
Acts 3:12,13,15. Eph 1:3,17,20 pour sand sand for your lie wey U dey perambulate for here..
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zodiakzax:
Common sense.... ... ..did Jesus resurrect himself? Yes, Jesus said He will.resurrect himself, here we go let me show everyone how ignorant you are


Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
John 2:19 KJV



Why didn't he say, destroy this temple and My Father will raise it up? Talking about his body... ... My friend doesn't matter what the disciples believed, the disciples did not even understand when Jesus told them to be ware of the leaven of the Pharisees ..they thought Jesus was talking about bread.. ....now Jesus Himself said He will raise himself... and they said the Father did it, so who raised Jesus up? Both the Father and Jesus.. .. you wished that scripture wouldn't be in the bible abi? but it's there....Okay tell us Jesus was a liar..


, so my question OneJ is where was Christ sitting when he went to sit by the right side of the Father?


So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:19 ESV


So the throne is so big that it can accommodate two gods, ... in revelation it says water flows from the throne of the Father of of the Lamb.... so the Father now shares his throne with the Son.. then they are equal so why are you shouting here?? If I can seat on a kings throne with him then I have equal authority and power with him the throne is only a simple of authority and power.... no one has rhe right to sit on a kings throne if He's not the king.



Now how come we have one Lord, Jesus Christ? ... the One Lord and One God should have been the Father but that is not the case my friend..... guys you see why i sau they are stupid? Not because I insult them, no because they are stupid...

Hhmmmm !!
"doesn't matter what the disciples believed..." words of a modern day Pharisee showing his true colour.

Go write your own Bible na ?

Jesus Christ himself said " I overcame and sat down with my Father (Yahweh) on his throne" Rev 3:21

Continue quarrelling with Jesus.
"Jesus is God" and "sat down at the right hand of God". Your "God" sat down at the right hand of himself.
Confused bunch of idiots!

zodiakzax fighting against Jesus Christ my Messiah in a desperate bid to save face.

zodiakzax:
Common sense.... ... how come we have one Lord, Jesus Christ? ... the One Lord and One God should have been the Father but that is not the case my friend..... guys you see why i sau they are stupid? Not because I insult them, no because they are stupid...

Mumu post.

U keep denying the truth.
Jesus apostles knew him one on one.
They confessed that Jesus is a servant of Yahweh, the God of their forefathers ( Abraham, Isaac and Jacob).
Yahweh resurrected Jesus & installed him as king ,lord & Messiah.
(Yahweh made Jesus what he (Jesus) had become).
The truth in the word of Yahweh's holy book (Acts 3:12,13,15. Acts 2:36. 1 cor 15:24,27.) are eternally VALID .
U are powerless to change them.
U must come here dey rant & bark as usual.
Na your way.

zodiakzax:
Here is the Trinity... (copied & modified)

Who is God? The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit


Is God the Father the Father of Jesus? Yes


Who is Jesus? The Son of God and the Son of Mary,


Who resurrected Jesus? Jesus John 2:19, The Father, The Holy Spirit


How many thrones? Two equal ones, the Father's and the Son's..rev 22:1-3


It's only understood by those with common sense and who can understand what they read.

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Mumu post above from mumu sense.

"who is God? " The Father , son and the Holy Spirit (your Godhead)".
U smoke weed ?
Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. Deut 6:4. Mark 12:29 , is the only true God John 17:3

U know say Jesus get Father wey big pass am for heaven & earth (Rev 3:21. John 14:28) & U dey here since 19gbidigbidi they shout upandan "Jesus is God".!
If U think say U get brain,zodiakzax U dey fool yourself

"Who resurrected Jesus? The Father, the holy spirit." Did Jesus resurrected himself?
"After HE WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scriptures & the words that Jesus had spoken" John 2:22

The big question is ; Did Jesus disciples believed that Jesus resurrected himself?


"(Yahweh) The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed...... but God (Yahweh) raised him (Jesus) up from the dead. We are witnesses of this"
Acts 3:12,3,15.

Yahweh resurrected his servant Jesus Christ.
zodiakzax , Apostle Peter done expose U finish! Your half truth= LIE.

"How many thrones? two equal ones."

"I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne" Rev 3:21.

Jesus said it is his Father ,Yahweh's throne. Christ no get power to install himself..
1 cor 15:24,27
The truth is very crystal clear..
Your lies no fit twist am.

zodiakzax:
My friend you just admitted Christians are Monotheist, so why then does your organization say you are Polytheist?? ..

Indeed ,zodiakzax & his modern day Pharisees crew are polytheists because they worship triune God with three faces (they call Godhead, a dubious invention indeed).

" Jesus said.. Jehovah our God is one Jehovah". Mark 12:29.
Jesus called Jehovah " the only true God" John 17:3. JWs worship Jehovah/Yahweh, the only true God.

Your triune Godhead is not "the only true God".
No dull yourself.

Gruni1234:
My dear OneJ, thanks for the answer. Can I point to you where the definite article isn't proceeding theos but was still translated as God " Almighty" . I will shortly do that. Now taking a look at your claim, I have read the Acts 28:6 and there's something we need to analyse here. Someone was writing an account concerning what happened on a journey. The writer of Acts said the people said Paul was a god. This is the people saying so. Now the people making this statement should be polytheist because they say Paul was "a god", meaning they believed in different gods and Paul was one of them. There was an account in Acts where the Greeks thought, Pual and Barnabas were gods, one Mercurius and the other Jupiter, these were greek gods of old. The priest even went ahead to make sacrifices to them. You see my dear, this was written because it was witnessed by the writer, not to imply that these gods were accepted by Christianity. In Acts 28 another similar things happened when they thought Paul was a god. But in the case of Jesus Christ and John 1:1, the writer was speaking specifically about the epitome of your faith, Jesus Christ,.

Sir ,Gruni1234, thanks for your response.

The only issue here is actually the Greek grammatical construct ,( it's not about Jesus in John 1:1 or Paul in Acts 28:6).

1) In Acts 12:22, 28:6 remove indefinite articles ("a" inserted there & defend the results U get. Can U?

2) Pls Explain Psalms 82:6 & John 10:34-36.
Shalom.

OneJ:
Komot that your lie lie ,corrupted KJV version jare.....

Let's consider these examples:

1a. This house was built through me.
1 b, This house was built by me
Both sentences are not saying exactly the same thing.
(1a) tells us that the house was built with joint effort or a partnership.
(1b) is saying that one person alone built it.

https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm
"God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3

NLT,GNT.NASB.CSB.ESV.WNT.YLT.ISV.GWT.HCSB.WEB.NIV etc.
"And although the world was made THROUGH. HIM the world did not recognize him " John 1:10.

"DIA AUTOU meaning THROUGH HIM
is a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; THROUGH."

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm

"Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation..." (Aramaic Bible in English)

" The Lord (Jehovah/Yahweh) created me first of all...." NHEB
Prov 8:30
"I was a skilled craftsman at His (Yahweh's) side, His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His prescence"
" Christ is the wisdom of God" 1 cor 1:21,24.
The truth is crystal clear.

This one pain these modern day Pharisees reach bone sotayy their outburst of frustration was akin to a rabid dog on heat mode.
Even their coded friend was caught napping.

Zodiak Mumu wey no know say Greek theios means god , gods & goddess. Greek language no get upper case & lowercase difference wey dey for English.
Him dey vex say John 1:1 NWT no follow him fake KJV & Darby John 1:1.
Your half baked knowledge is more harmful to U than to the larger society.

brocab:
{John 2:18-22} NWT Bible Therefore, in response the Jews said to him: “What sign can you show us, since you are doing these things?”
Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
{Jesus said: He will raise Himself up in 3 day's {1 Corinthians 6:14, Acts 2:24} By His power God raised the Lord from the dead..
This must mean Jesus and the Father are One..
{Verse 20} The Jews then said: “This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?”
But he was talking about the temple of his body. When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples recalled that he used to say this, and they believed the scripture and what Jesus had spoken.

Even after U quoted the scriptures, U had to twist it to sweeten your falsehood.
Your god died and resurrected himself.
Dubious man.
John 2:22
"After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he (Jesus) had said."

Who resurrected Jesus? Or Jesus resurrected himself ?

"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.... when He raised him (Christ) from the dead and seated him (Christ) at his right hand in the heavenly realms"
Eph 1:3,20.

" I keep asking that (Yahweh) the God of our Lord Jesus Christ , the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom" to comot this mumu trinity from your brain.
Eph 1:17

Paul & JWs dey pray for your deliverance....
Press. 'exit' mode.
The ball is in your court.

zodiakzax:
Who says we follow men, we follow one and that is Jesus Christ, whether pastor Bleep says this or that ooo, I careless, if his doctrine can't be supported by the truth of the scripture then He's fake and compromised..simple..stupid did we tell you we belonged to a particular denomination?

U dey deny your pastorpreneurs & gods of men because their y***h done open.. Lol

U teach & practice what Jesus never did, for instance, Trinity among others. U no even know Jesus.
Sottay , U tacitly denied your own posts on this thread.

Your Trinity was bashed & torn to shreds here. Now U guys shepaly shifted to another topic to save face.
if U ,zodiakzax get liver, name the "particular denomination" U belong.
Una dey hide behind NL monikers dey claim body of Christ who idolize gods of men (god of ole... ). Lols

johnw47:
oh duh, the Word was with "the God", of course He was, the word was not with "a god"
john is talking about "the God" and he then says "and God was the Word"
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word

john is not talking about two gods there as false jw's believe in, a almighty god and a mighty god




Job_13:3  Surely I would speak to the Almighty, and I desire to reason with God.

job wanted to speak to the Almighty and desired to reason with God, job is not talking about two diffrent gods there, with the Almighty being the definate article, (there is no "almighty" before God)
but job of course is talking off the one God


and there are many verses that support that the Word is God
do you remember false jw onej? yes you do, but you don't believe God which is calling Him a liar
as you do everyone else who posts God's truth here






it wouldn't even make sense for john to want to tell everyone that the Lord and saviour of the world is "a god"

but to show that Father and the Word is that one same Spirit which is God, makes perfect sense

"the Word" is one spirit.
"the God" is another spirit.
Both of them can NEVER be "that same one spirit, which is God"

In the scriptures, Jesus says so (John 17:3. John 10:34-36) & common sense says that Yahweh is "the ONLY TRUE GOD.
The word "ONLY" speaks volumes which all mumu brain have shut out.

Here is the Trinity... (copied & modified)
Who is God? Jesus
Is Jesus the son of Mary? Yes
Who created Mary? God
Who is Jesus? God
Who resurrected Jesus? God
Did God have a beginning? No
Then, who was born on Dec 25? Jesus
Where's God? in heaven
How many are there in heaven?only one God
Where's Jesus? He sits at the right hand of God
Then, how many seats? one.
how are they seated? On one chair.
It's only understood by those with ("holy"?) indeed satanic spirit.
Can U see how confused they (trinity crew) are ?

"Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus... has sent me to you... be filled with holy spirit."
"At once Saul began to preach.... that Jesus is the son of God" Acts9:17,20.
The man wey get the holy spirit preached that "Jesus is the son of God"

But Modern day Pharisees with satanic spirit preach the Trinity. Lol

johnw47:
we have seen how false jw's are false prophets
and so not of God

here is a little on the contradictions of false jw's
written by a christian:


The Watchtower says it is God's only true organization: "Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book," (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402). It claims to speak for God, yet it has produced numerous contradictory statements. Therefore, it is not God's organization.

Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave, the Watchtower Organization or Charles Taze Russell?

Watchtower Organization is Faithful and Discreet Slave:
"Jesus foretold that among his people there would be a "faithful and discreet slave" class who would be providing the spiritual food to God's family of devoted servants on earth, acting as his channel of communication and overseeing the carrying out of the Kingdom interests world wide. (Matt. 24:45-47) These anointed overseers serve as though being guided in their activities by the right hand of Christ," (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1969, p. 51).
Russell is Faithful and Discreet Slave:
"Thousands of the readers of Pastor Russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1916, p. 357).
Watchtower Denies Russell ever claimed to be Faithful and Discreet Slave:
"From this it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of Zion's Watch Tower disavowed any claim to being individually, in his person, that "faithful and wise servant." He never did claim to be such," (God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years has Approached, 1973, p. 346).
Watchtower claims to be only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing.
Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:
"We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the 'faithful and discreet slave' organization,'" (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981).
Vatican is only organization able to interpret the Bible:
"The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible," (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201).
Is Jesus supposed to be worshipped or not?
Yes, Jesus is supposed to be worshipped:
"Question: The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer: Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so . . . It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father, and his agent in the creation of all things, including man," (Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216).
"For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: 'You are my Son; today I have become your Father'? And again: 'I shall be a Father to him, and he will be a Son to me'? But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: 'And let all God's angels worship him,'" (New Heavens and a New Earth, 1953, p. 27-28).
No, Jesus is not supposed to be worshipped:
"He taught men, not to worship him, but to worship Jehovah his Father . . . 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God,'" (Make Sure of All Things, p. 283).
"What I learned was so different from what I had heard at the "Christian" school I had attended. Jehovah's Witnesses do not worship Jesus. Rather, they worship Almighty God, the One that Jesus himself worshipped," (Awake, Dec. 22, 1987, p. 22).


Armageddon will be in 1914 or 1941
Armageddon will be in 1914
" . . . the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878[3], and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914, with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time is at Hand, 1889, emphasis added).
Armageddon will be in 1941
"Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
Armageddon will be in 1914 or 1915
Armageddon is in 1915
" . . . the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878[3], and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced." (The Time is at Hand, 1881, emphasis added. The date was changed to 1914 in a later edition.)
Armageddon is in 1914
" . . . the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878[3], and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914, with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time is at Hand, 1889, emphasis added).

@johnw47 :
U switched to another topic after your false trinity was battered & torn to shreds. Lol

Events of that period (1889) 200 years ago, have no bearing on the truth of God's word that JWs teach & practice today.

JWs are not perfect but more forthright & honest than U & your gods of men whose god is their belly AKA "I'm dangerously wealthy" upgraded from "my god is not a poor god". Phil3:19.

( Very soon the "wild beast" go show una hot pepper. U guys ain't seen nothing. Lol.)

U dey make empty noise for nothing , copy & paste falsehood.


Your Daddy GOs, pastorpreneurs & gods of men whom U idolize & worship ,breeze done blow , and their y**sh dey wide open....
Una yeye smell pass carbide.

"5 Old Beliefs Of Pastor Kumuyi of Deeper Life Which He Later Abandoned" (nairaland thread)

"FAKE!!!7 Prophecies By Top Nigerian Pastors In 2006 That Didn't Come To Pass"
https://www.nairaland.com

"Pastor Kumuyi: I Will Remove Some Doctrines Of Deeper Life ( Throwback Video)" (All these above are nairaland threads.).


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-37924086
"Nigerian preacher TB Joshua deletes prophecy...."

johnw47:
oh duh, the Word was with "the God", of course He was, the word was not with "a god"
john is talking about "the God" and he then says "and God was the Word"
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word

john is not talking about two gods there as false jw's believe in, a almighty god and a mighty god


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For your mind U think U're educated
but. your education is useless to U & your society.

Where, when & how did two distinct spirit beings ,the Word & the God transformed into one spirit being, Almighty God ?
Johnw47, pls reply.

One of the men who invented Trinity , before the Council of Nicene was convened, Tertullian , (one of the Early Church Fathers) in the early third century wrote:
" Now if this one ("the Word" is God according to John (" the Word is God", then you have two: one who speaks that it may be, and another who carries it out. However, you should accept this as "another" I have explained: as concerning person, not substance, and as distinct, not division"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1


the man Tertullian write say U be mumu with no sense but stupidity.

Gruni1234:
Young Sir, I would like to ask some questions, I will be glad you can answer me and not ignore me.

From your speculation, you said because theos lack definite article it should translated "a god"

Now my question is:

1.is theos always translated as " a god" whenever there's no definite article preceding it?


2. Are Christians Polatheist or Monotheist?

Thank you

Sir, my response to Q2 ,

The Christianity taught & practiced by Jesus Christ is strictly monotheism, similar to Judaism.
Jesus answered, "the first is ' Hear O Israel, Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah (Yahweh)" Mark 12:29. Deut 6:4.


That's the reason Jesus called Jehovah (Yahweh), his God & Father, " the ONLY TRUE GOD.
John 17:3. Exodus 6:3. Psalms 83:18.
Trinity , (the triune god )is counterfeit Christianity.
Shalom.

Gruni1234:
Young Sir, I would like to ask some questions, I will be glad you can answer me and not ignore me.

From your speculation, you said because theos lack definite article it should translated "a god"

Now my question is:

1.is theos always translated as " a god" whenever there's no definite article preceding it?


2. Are Christians Polatheist or Monotheist?

Thank you

Sir ,Gruni1234,

1) It is not speculation, But, SOLID FACT.
KJV Bible was translated from the Textus Receptus ,16th century manuscript.
Acts 28:6 (word for word transliteration to English):
" They said god him to be" (in other words , they said he is god".

Acts 28:6 kJV Bible...
"...they changed their minds, and said that he was a god"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1

1B).
"... they changed their minds and said he was a god" Acts 28:6 (NIV)

"... they changed their minds and said he was a god" Acts 28:6 (CSB).

Different Bible versions has virtually the same rendition.

https://biblehub.com/acts/28-6.htm


"....they shouted, this is the voice of a god, not a man". Acts12:22. NIV

"....And the people gave a shout, saying, it is the voice of a god, not of a man"
Acts12:22. KJV.
https://biblehub.com/acts/12-22.htm

The various Bible versions confirmed the fact
" a god" is the proper rendition because the grammatical construct is the same with John 1:1.
The grammatical construct of the original language manuscript as well as the context determines the placement of indefinite article.
"a god or divine or godlike" , any of this is appropriate.

2) The Christianity taught & practiced by Jesus Christ is monotheistic , just like Judaism.