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johnw47:
@bold, you false jw cap believe Jesus wounds and scars are a dishonor to Him,
they don't come any more evil than you satans mob, that's for certain

@underline, Jesus never sinned, He was neither buried in dishonor or raised in dishonor

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

U are making a fool of yourself, peddling half truth ,"he was neither buried in dishonor or raised in dishonor".. What has Christ burial got to do with his dishonored body with various wounds & marks of abuse?
Christ was labeled a. "criminal" and was executed along with 2 other criminals. John 18:28-32.
He died in dishonor & was raised in glory. 1 cor 15:43,44. Make U no twist am.

johnw47:
and that's also how you wolves in sheeps clothing appear, modest in speech and attitude, wanting to appear as a lamb, some of the time,
but of course some false jw's speech and attitude shows your true colors though:



see your lies

a christian not always being mild in speech and attitude
is far far better than a false jw's idiotcy and habitual lying

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

false jw's are among the peoples Jesus was talking and prophesying off there
they are an org. of false prophets and more
later or tomorrow i will post some of false jw's false prophecies

Everyone who viewed this thread is already aware that your other 4 fingers have judged & condemned U.
Because U no fit disprove all the scriptures that contradicted your flawed doctrine , u dey hide behind flimsy excuses.

LordReed:
LMFAO! I came because I had a feeling this already debunked hoax is what you would present as the " by scientists "proof. Oh my days, you guys are so fucking gullible.

This is hoax that has been propagating since at least the late 80s. It is not real so stop spreading fake news.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_to_Hell_hoax

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-well-to-hell/

Confirmed fairytale . Let's leave the OP to his man made fable
. Make the guy dey deceive himself. Lol

johnw47:
the same word "theos" is used for the Father
so according to you false jw onej the Father being called God(theos)
is connected with a god, or like a god
and the Father has godlike qualities, attributes of a god
the Father is "a god"

but not so oh mumu man who loves to lie and change what God says, which is calling God a liar

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God(theos), and the Word was God(theos).

many bible verses show the Word to be God, i will post some if you ask, laugh

mumu post of serial liars everywhere. Greek
theos basically means god / gods,goddess.
The Greek language does not distinguish upper case & lower case , as it is in English. Mumu people, theos is god.
Translators of the Bible into English changed theos to god/ God where appropriate.

John1:1a - in the beginning was the word
John 1:1b- the word was with the god (that's how it is written in Greek)
( John 1:1a/b , there is definite article "the"
John 1:1c - the word is god (no definite article there precedes "god", as it is in John 1:1b.

Therefore, indefinite article "a" must precede "god". Hence, Acts 12:22, 28:6,John 1:1c is
" a god." That's the rule of Greek grammar Your KJV knows this , but stuck to falsehood in John 1:1c.

The oldest Bible far older than any English Bible , the Sahidic Coptic Bible in John 1:1c reads. "a god".

"Every one who believes that Jesus is the Messiah has been born from God (Yahweh) and everyone who loves the parent (Yahweh) loves the child" - 1 John 5:1.
But , umu iberibe upgraded the child to usurp his parent by fire by force.
Lol
Una stupidity no go end.

Hairyrapunzel:
This one wants us to think his NWT bible is the true translation. Bible written by people who predicted that the world was going to end in 1975. People with false prophecies.

People that believe that Jesus Christ came invisibly in 1914 and chose their publishing company as the one true religion.

People who because their leaders wanted to be of the anointed remnant on earth introduced overlapping generation in 1995 so that they (the leaders) will be eligible to go to heaven when they die.

People that believe that world will soon end and their jehovah will slaughter all non jws because they didn't pay allegiance to a publishing company.


People whose doctrines are assumptions and speculation based and seen only in watchtower magazines.


You really think we are daft and stupid to believe your assumed translation of saying the word is a god?


Think again.

Your sickness done upload.
IBERIBEISM enters "play" mode.
Stupidity steeped in delusion, bigotry & anti JW virus=.
Mumu for life.

Gruni1234:
First of my dear Friend, if I'm a Trinitarian or Unitarian doesnt really matter to me if I become a Christian. What matters to me is I follow the precept of the bible and the bible alone. If the bible tells me My God is a truine God so be it. If it doesnt so be it. I dont need anyone,group or organization to tell me how to know God.I have a brain to think and I've gone to school enough to understand English, what,how and when the bible means.

Your fellows are doing a poor job defending their beliefs , they say one and then change it to mean another. I am a witness to this, I can read and write and know logic. So what you say doesn't really matter to me. I see the way zodiakzax deals with you in verbal assault which I'm against but it seems it could just be The right means to explore given how you just attacked me.

Now get this right as your other colleague got it wrong.I want you to know most atheist do not believe the bible is fabricated, we only don't believe there's a God. Christians turn to Scholars, Atheist scholars who are very educated in the Greek language for council, they help in the Greek text and language as to what it means or not. These scholars mostly accept John 1:1 as the word being divine, and as divine means God. Your assertion that it's "a god" clearly misrepresent the verse. Many Atheist greek scholars accept it to be God not "a god" does that make them a believer that God exists? Get your facts right Young Sir.

Gruni1234:
Yes my dear. It is, the appropriate should have been God or divine. No one had the right to assume it was a smaller god. I have done enough search into that when OneJ asked me to, and from all angles including Atheist greek scholars, the word was divine, that should be left alone as it is or as God. You become a polytheist which your very religion is against. Polytheism is the believe in many gods. So if you say the word is a god, you them say there are two gods.

Gruni1234 is not being honest.
Many scholars agree that in John 1:1 "the word is a god" is accurate because it is the same Greek grammatical construct with Acts 28:6, 12:22,. Other scholars hold a different opinion. That's actually what "John 1:1 Wikipedia" said , but U came to NL to twist the facts.
Intellectual dishonesty.

Let's see if the evidence supported your claims.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/ english/divine

Divine, definition
1. "Connected with a god, or like a god".

https://biblehub.com/greek/2304.htm

theios - divine
divinity, deity
( Latinnumendivinum)
not only used by the Greeks to denote the divine nature, power, providence, in the general, with out reference to any individual deity"

In other words that verse actually means that Jesus Christ has godlike qualities, attributes of a god.
John 1:1, " the word is a god, (NWT) is accurate.

OneJ:
Komot that your lie lie ,corrupted KJV version jare.....

Let's consider these examples:

1a. This house was built through me.
1 b, This house was built by me
Both sentences are not saying exactly the same thing.
(1a) tells us that the house was built with joint effort or a partnership.
(1b) is saying that one person alone built it.

https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm
"God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3

NLT,GNT.NASB.CSB.ESV.WNT.YLT.ISV.GWT.HCSB.WEB.NIV etc.
"And although the world was made THROUGH. HIM the world did not recognize him " John 1:10.

"DIA AUTOU meaning THROUGH HIM
is a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; THROUGH."

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm

"Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation..." (Aramaic Bible in English)

" The Lord (Jehovah/Yahweh) created me first of all...." NHEB
Prov 8:30
"I was a skilled craftsman at His (Yahweh's) side, His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His prescence"
" Christ is the wisdom of God" 1 cor 1:21,24.
The truth is crystal clear.

@ brocab, the SERIAL LIAR (& his crew) ;
who said. " the word Jesus Christ wasn't created and has always been"

Prov 8:22
"Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation" (Aramaic Bible in English).

"Giving thanks to the Father (Jehovah/Yahweh) who... brought us into the kingdom of the son He loves,.... the first born over ALL CREATION."
Col 1:12-15.
This truth has no duplicate.

That's the ogbunigwe that blows the trinity to pieces as well as the NL posts of the trinity crew with their twisted, LIE ,LIE interpretations of the holy scriptures

Gruni1234, Thomas called Jesus "my Lord, my God" yet the holy Bible confirmed that Jesus himself was created by Yahweh /Jehovah.
Therefore, in consonance with Psalm 82:6, John 10:34-36, Acts 28:6, Acts 12:22, Jesus, " the word is a god" (John 1:1, NWT, Sahidic Coptic Bible, that's the authentic rendition).

Your trinity friends have entered one chance.....

They will come here to vent their frustrations ,resort to name calling & insults rather than accept the truth.

zodiakzax:
Jehovah witnesses are stupid and ignorant, they follow and believe in different gods, they are mentally weak and very silly... I challenge anyone who wants to defend them.. hypocrites

OneJ and his crew we will follow you since you've decided to run away like little "girls"

Keep barking out loud.
Your stupidity is indefensible.
zodiakzax & mumu virus na 5&6. #inseparable.

zodiakzax:
You are stupid.. go and answer the questions I asked you.... a kid kid like you trying to.explain scriptures.. you think we are joking here or what? Go to your mummy and papa...stupid little kid...

keep barking out loud.
The symptoms are obvious.
Your mumu virus no get cure.
The truth of God's word the Bible
has confirmed your stupidity.

johnw47:
the Word Jesus Christ created the angels and everything that was created, there is nothing that exists that He didn't create

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

without the Word Jesus nothing was created = Father never created anything without the Word Jesus,
clearly showing that the Word Jesus Christ wasn't created and has always been

Komot that your lie lie ,corrupted KJV version jare.....

Let's consider these examples:

1a. This house was built through me.
1 b, This house was built by me
Both sentences are not saying exactly the same thing.
(1a) tells us that the house was built with joint effort or a partnership.
(1b) is saying that one person alone built it.

https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm
"God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3

NLT,GNT.NASB.CSB.ESV.WNT.YLT.ISV.GWT.HCSB.WEB.NIV etc.
"And although the world was made THROUGH. HIM the world did not recognize him " John 1:10.

"DIA AUTOU meaning THROUGH HIM
is a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; THROUGH."

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm

"Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation..." (Aramaic Bible in English)

" The Lord (Jehovah/Yahweh) created me first of all...." NHEB
Prov 8:30
"I was a skilled craftsman at His (Yahweh's) side, His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His prescence"
" Christ is the wisdom of God" 1 cor 1:21,24.
The truth is crystal clear.

Barristter07:
the problem with unintelligent people is they are so absorbed in their ignorance .

The Greek word at John 1:1 is Theo's .. Yes or no ?

You asked if I agree with Darby and not NWT at John 1:1, but I replied that Darby doesn't contradict NWT because at Act 28:6 darby also translate Theo's as " a god " , same thing NWT did at John 1:1

That proves a god is not a wrong translation unless Darby is wrong at Act 28:6

zodiakzax guy dey showcase him stupidity ,serial lies & unrivalled mumu.
Trinity doctrine fry him brain for breakfast.

Hairyrapunzel:
Since you say Jesus is a god you should be able to tell us if he is a true or a false god because you claim there is only one true God.


Is Jesus a true or a false god?

Psalms 82:6 , did Yahweh call his sons "false gods?"

John 10:34,35 did Jesus call them "false gods"?

Did the scriptures (Acts 28:6, 12:22) call both men "false gods?"

The truth is always bitter- Jesus is a god.
Accept the humble pie.
Arrogance & undisguised hatred for the truth are duz U no good

@zodiakzax, U just dey rant up& down like rabid dog,to showcase your mumu.
Sottayy u dey twist my posts.
The question u dey fear continues to haunt U.
"How did Yahweh born the mountains?
the question no concern your mother.

Your point (1) U started with a lie "Yahweh did not beget any child in any spirit realm" but eventually validated the gospel truth that Jesus Christ is not Almighty Yahweh to condemn your mumu doctrine. U wrote, "Yahweh created everything ... through his son"

2) U know say Yahweh "HE IS NOT LIMITED IN ANYTHING", yet your stupidity fry your brain sottay U deny the truth that YAHWEH born the mountains.
Ode ! Lol.

Your point (2) shows the flaws in your understanding of Bible truth.

" The promises was spoken to Abraham and to his seed (his only begotten son Isaac, Heb 11:17,18) the sculpture does not say "and to seeds" meaning many people (other children begotten by Abraham), but. "and to your seed" meaning one person, who is Christ" (Yahweh's only begotten son , the anointed Messianic king). Gal 3:16.

Christ is Abraham's seed (Gal 3:29) " therefore, God (Yahweh),your God (Yahweh) has set you above your companions by ANOINTING you ...."
Heb1:9,13

Yahweh's only begotten son, "first begotten", Abraham's seed, anointed as Messianic king.

Heb 1:5-9,13. 1cor 15:24-27.

"He is the only one of his kind," (https://wol.jw.org) just like Isaac was the only one of his kind among Abraham's many sons and daughters.

zodiakzax:
You see how stupid you are? Where in the whole scripture did it say Jesus was begotten via creation?

And did Mary have a husband before getting pregnant? God is all powerful isn't he? Does God need a wife to bring forth something? You see how stupid you are.. you always.shout Almighty, Almighty, Almighty yet you don't believe he's almighty.


Guys you see, you.see how foolish he sounds? Gruni123 you see how block headed these guys are? Didnt he just say Paul didnt tell any Angel that he's begotten? Show me where in job1:6 that's says angels were the Begotten sons of God. I am waiting for this


My friend you are contradicting yourself here and there... You said Abraham has many sons yet Isaac is the Begotten Son hence begotten here doesn't mean born by birth correct?

So it cannot be first and foremost since Ishmael was the first son of Abraham..

Isaac was begotten because he was a unique son correct?

You see how ignorant you are, if begotten means first and foremost then Isaac can't be the Begotten Son of Abraham since he wasn't the first. It is the uniqueness of Isaac that counts.


This guy is so dumb, you said


"Heb1:5-7 ,Paul referenced the fact that Yahweh never spoke those words to any angel."


Thank you now we agree that Yahweh NEVER TOLD ANY ANGEL HE IS BEGOTTEN. So I put it to you that your organization has made a fool out of you and others by telling you that Jesus is an Angel... you see why I said you guys are stupid?


But he contradicts himself again

He said " Is Jesus Christ (a spirit being in heaven before he to the earth)), an angel in heaven before his earthly sojourn? Yes."

But you just said he was not an angel since God didn't say to any angel that he's his begotten son...
You see how silly you sound? ... confront them and they will expose themselves to you...


You said he was among the sons at the meeting in Job, ,

who told you he was among the sons? Answer


Bunch of idiots....

1) Matt 3:16, " this is my son ,the beloved", zodiakzax does statement refer to U?

Paul said that statement in heb1:5-7 , emphasized that Yahweh has anointed Jesus Christ to occupy an exalted position as king, no other Angel had that privilege.
Don't twist & distort its meaning with your stupidity.

2) Your mumu brain dey see Mary for Heb 1:5-7 whereas that entire chapter 1 never said anything about Mary.

Paul spoke about Yahweh ,Almighty & Supreme, who appointed Jesus as heir to Yahweh's throne.
Two distinct spirit beings ,not distorted and upgraded to one being, another solid hammer against the trinity mumu.

3). In v9 "... therefore God (Yahweh), your God (Yahweh) has set you (Jesus) above your companions by anointing you..."
My question for U....
zodiakzax , who are Jesus " companions" in v9?

4) Your statement. "you see how ignorant you are, if begotten means first and foremost
Isaac was begotten then Isaac can't be the begotten son of Abraham...."

Thats proof that your stupidity knows no bound & U are corrupted with mumu virus.
Your LIES are in fact legendary.

5) Your stupidity and LIES can not twist the true meaning of begotten, that is
1a - birth .
1b- created

Heb11:15-17 said Isaac is only begotten son because he was the promised seed .
Isaac was among the begotten sons & daughters of. Abraham.

Yahweh has begotten myriads of sons in the spirit realm but only Jesus Christ was chosen as his only begotten son because he was the anointed Messianic King.
That's the point that Paul emphasized in Heb1:5-7.
Let it sink into your God-given brain (if it still exists) , bereft of mumu virus.

zodiakzax:
He said Yahweh made, created Jesus ..this shows how stupid and ignorant you are, you think quoting dictionary will bail you out...fools..... when it says ALL things were created through Jesus and For Him. , So God created Jesus through Him? ...I've never met anyone as stupid as you folk.. You keep your brains in your anus...

well let's see the meaning of the words into details:

Make:

to produce something, often using a particular substance or material:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/make


cre‧ate:

to make something exist that did not exist before

https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/create


My friend don't for argument sake look and sound stupid.. anybody in his logical mind will not say born is create, or that make is born

GOD MADE HUMAN BEING.. and let us make man in our image.... so what substance did God use to make man? Dust of the ground.. how did he make the woman, out of Adams ribs... why didn't God call man to being? Why didn't God create man out of nothing like he did the light? He said let there be light and there was light...


Create Is to make something exist that did not exist before, meaning to make out of nothing. God created the earth and the heavens, God created Light and from that substance he made a greater one and a lesser one.

Born is to come into existence by birth...

SERIAL LIAR.
The word "BORN" has dual meaning.
Born also means "bring into existence, create> a new nation was born with the revolution"

zodiackzax, how was " the new nation born with the revolution?

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/born

How did Yahweh born the mountains? How did Yahweh bring forth the earth and the world in Psalms 90:2?
" If. an idea is BORN, it starts to exist"
But zodiakzax go dey search for the woman wey conceive am for belle.... .
Mumu for life.....

U be CORRECT WAYO MAN.

OneJ:
Verbal somersaults , twisting and distortion of the holy scriptures litter your posts
What else
U can't prove shishi .....

Your Father na C.E.O, he come make U General Manager (GM), so your Father go dey under your authority because U be GM, issorait.
Keep up your delusion & cherish your mumu lies.

The serial liar no fit give "robust reply" like him serial adulterer daddy G.O & pastorpreneur.

Hairyrapunzel:
Just like David and Ephraim are Yahweh's firstborns.

Both were created by Yahweh who brought forth Jesus Christ his son into existence.

Gruni1234:
Good day to all of you.


Now, Hebrews was clear and I have read that myself about God calling NO angel the Begotten Son of God. Your good book says
Jesus is made better than the Angels, the writer now continues to tell us more, "For unto which of the angels said he at any time " thou art my Son, today have i begotten thee? This was a rhetorical question, he said which of the angels? Who amongst them did he begotten? And again which of them said he at any time, I will be to him a Father and He shall be to me a Son?Another rhetorical question that answered itself. He continued to say when he brought in the firstborn into the world, he saith, And let ALL the angels of God worship him.if He says let ALL the angels worship him, isn't He talking about all? He continues to distinguish between the Son and Angels. So Sir, as a logical thinker and an educated one I know when A is A and when B is B. I can understand for myself what I read. Here it clearly says Jesus was not an Angel. If you still hold on to the belief that Jesus is an Angel when your very book says otherwise then that's your problem Sir. Maybe you don't want to acknowledge their mistake, and that's what corruption is, when you clearly sees A and everyone knows it's A then you say it's B. It's a shame really. So that was why it took you time to say He was the Begotten Son.

@ Gruni1234, zodiakzax et al:

begotten is past participle of beget.
I don't need to bore U with the meaning of beget. Jesus & Adam are the sons of Yahweh, begotten via creation. Yahweh has no wife.
Isaac was Abraham's " only begotten son" (Heb11:15-17), does it mean or imply that other sons and daughters were not begotten by Abraham?
The point is first & foremost, Isaac was begotten by Abraham other wise it is impossible to be his Father's only begotten son. Like U said, we move from point A to point B.

Heb11:18 says Isaac was anointed as Abraham's seed, therefore, his only begotten son, which is a reference to his favoured status among Abraham's sons.

In the same vein, Jesus is first & foremost, Yahweh's begotten son , from heaven Yahweh "brings his first born into the world", Heb1:5-7 ,Paul referenced the fact that Yahweh never spoke those words to any angel.
Paul affirmed that the statement was specifically made to only Jesus Christ, the anointed king by Yahweh to sit down on the throne that Jesus called "my Father's throne" in heaven.
Rev 3:12,21.
Angels are sons of God, Yahweh's begotten sons (Job 1:6. 2:1). Jesus called himself the son of God ,a fact revealed by Yahweh (Matt 3:16,17. Matt 16:13-17).
Jesus consistently confessed he was sent by Yahweh his Father ( John 3:16. 5:36. 7:16 12:48-50), just like angels were messengers for Yahweh (Heb1:14. 1 kings22:19-22)
Is Jesus Christ (a spirit being in heaven before he to the earth)), an angel in heaven before his earthly sojourn? Yes.
He is definitely among the sons of God slated for that meeting in Job 1:6. 2:1 , that Satan came to gatecrash.

zodiakzax:


Another stupid one.... Go and laugh at your friend who quoted this verse, and also laugh at the writer who said Born instead of create... ... why is he not able to boldly tell me that Jesus is the Begotten son of God... stupid jokers.... scared little "girls"

People are reading, of course you will never admit anything, but you see on writing for OTHERS TO SEE..

Gruni1234:
Things are getting interesting. Like i said before Barristter is struggling, please make sure to answer all questions addressed to You, I know how zodiakzax feels. Barristter also my advice is be on point and as learned person stay on a verse which explains itself. Good example zodiakzax used was the offspring of David thing, I'm to assume then that the bible contradicts itself? Well if it does then the bible itself is fake and not worthy of my time. I'm learning interesting things, but as a learned person I will do more research into that since zodiakzax didn't specifically say it does.

Barrister07, from the beginning of your debate with zodiakzax you held a very strong point that Jesus was a son of god just like angels are sons of God. You were asked repeatedly whether Jesus was the Begotten son of God, you were never specific in your answering. Now that you accept Jesus is the Begotten Son of God, then indeed Jesus cannot be an angel since the Book of Hebrews says NO ANGEL was begotten of God. It is quite clear that that doctrine is false and must be removed.


Surely born is not the same as create. Born is bring forth out of pre-existing substance whereas create is to bring forth out of nothing.

Your mother gave birth(born) to you. She did not create you. To say she created you is nonsense since that's not the case.


I am currently reading more about the doctrine of the Jehovah witnesses on who Jesus Christ is/was. I will post my find when I'm done. And like I said I will not be biased. I have started John 1:1 and it's getting interesting already.

Thank you.

Born, definition
*Past participle of bear.
1a. brought into life by birth.
1b. brought into existence, CREATED. >a new nation was BORN with the revolution.

Gruni ,zodiakzax, brocab, Johnw47,, who is the father and mother of the " new nation born with the revolution?"

The word "born" has dual meaning, that is, birth or created.
INDISPUTABLE FACT.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/born

"Before the mountains were born,
or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God"
Psalms 90:2.

These questions dey hang for una head:

1) How did Yahweh born the mountains?

2) How did Yahweh brought forth the earth and the world?

3)How did Yahweh brought forth Jesus Christ, his son?

These questions have ONLY one answer:
Yahweh CREATED
1)the mountains.
(2) earth and the world.
(3) Jesus Christ his son.

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/make_1
Make , definition
1.create/ produce
2. cause to be formed

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/make

1. to cause to exist or happen, CREATE
2.to bring into existence
Verb , make
3.make=create
synonyms> beget , bring forth, generate.

Jesus did not exist until Yahweh brought him into existence ( created, made, generated, brought forth) his begotten son.
The bitter truth is crystal clear.
Remain with your mumu or press exit mode, the choice is yours.
Shalom

Imogenn:
Hi

I met this guy three months ago. We’ve been casually dating, he’s very calm, nice and he presents himself to be a very God fearing guy.

However, there’s some things that I’m not too keen about that I would like to share, and I’m wondering if I should continue the relationship or break it off as these could be signs that it may not work.

1. He’s a yahoo boy, he’s been into this for the past 11 years and this has been his main source of income.
2. He’s from edo state, some of his family members practice juju, although he is a born again Christian as he claims to be. I’m from Ekiti, I think there could be a tribal conflict.
3. He smokes everyday, which I don’t think I will be able to deal with long term. (Although he has promised to stop)
4. I live in the USA, he currently doesn’t have his papers so he is unable to do a lot of things. He married a lady to get his papers in 2012, (arranged marriage, not a real one) the arrangement didn’t work out in his favour, so he’s still on it till now.
5. He has been physically abusive to two of his ex’s, which he told me about. He also cheated on his ex that he was with for 10 years due to the distance. ( she’s in Nigeria)
6. He has tattoos on his body, which I’m not too fond about.
7. Most of his friends are heavy drinkers and smokers. His best friend cheats significantly on his wife.

I know we’re not perfect, and we all come with some kind of baggage. I’m a young God fearing lady of 24, and I just believe that this may be too much for me to handle.

He’s a nice guy, and he’s told me he loves me and I can see it in his actions. He was honest enough to tell me everything about his past, but I don’t know how to process all this information.

I don’t know what to do, but I believe God is warning me with all these signs. Am I being too judgemental or should I slowly drift away?

Pls consult Usain Bolt for great sprinting tips. U need it . very vital for your well being

zodiakzax:
Do You know why I love Barristter07? he is smarter than you lots , he carefully and masterfully plans his lies, now you and Captivator are just destroying him, fools

I will answer you shortly, I have visitors..

But I have you on record...

Verbal somersaults , twisting and distortion of the holy scriptures litter your posts
What else
U can't prove shishi .....

Your Father na C.E.O, he come make U General Manager (GM), so your Father go dey under your authority because U be GM, issorait.
Keep up your delusion & cherish your mumu lies.

[\quote author =zodiakzax post=73346492]


About Abraham and his begotten son Isaac,

I said

Monogenes : begotten

Beget is to procreate or generate 

Isaac was Abrahams begotten Son, Abraham brought forth Isaac, Abraham generated Isaac. He asks how did Abraham beget Isaac,
My answer

through sexual intercourse of course, and I said BUT ABRAHAM DID NOT CREATE ISAAC. 

[b]
Ignoring that He asked a rather stupid and irrelevant question, is Isaac created?

To answer that:

Isaac was Abraham's begotten Son and not Yahweh's begotten Son, Abraham brought forth Isaac, Abraham generated Isaac. ABRAHAM DID NOT CREATE ISAAC. YAHWEH CREATED ABRAHAM SO YES YAHWEH CREATED ISAAC. Using the same analogy

GOD BROUGHT FORTH THE SON, GENERATED THE SON, BEGET THE SON. GOD DID NOT CREATE THE SON.YAHWEH IS NOT CREATED SO THE SON CANNOT BE CREATED.[/quote]zodiakzax your LIES & verbal somersaults are like Siamese twins. Let's see....

A)
https://yourdictionary.com/bring-forth
Bring forth definition
*Past participle: brought forth
2. to give birth
3. to CREATE, generate, bring into existence.

B)
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/ english/generate
Generate, definition
1. to produce or bring into being, CREATE
Synonyms for generate
Produce, CREATE, make

C)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ beget
1 to procreate ,as the Father
to cause to exist.
Synonyms for beget
CREATE, cause, generate,produce
*Begotten- past participle of beget.

Yahweh CREATED (generated, made, beget, produced) Jesus Christ, his "first begotten", first born of creation.
Yahweh caused Jesus to exist via creation.
(Col 1:15. Rev 3:14,. Prov 8:22).
For that reason, in heaven and on the earth, Jesus called Yahweh. "my Father and my God". John 20:17. Rev 3:12, 21.

Zodiakzax & your trinity crew (modern day Pharisees who upgraded Jesus to God), the rug has been pulled off your feet, stop grasping at straws.
U are standing on quicksand.
U either sink or press exit mode to receive sense.
Shalom

zodiakzax:
..just a simple verse and all this round about.....


So if EVERY KNEE IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH MUST BOW TO JESUS AND CALL HIM LORD, WHY THEN ARE TOU SAYING HE IS NOT THE LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH? IT PLEASES YAHWEH THAT EVERYONE INCLUDING HIMSELF SHALL AKNOWLEDGE THAT JESUS IS LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH.

Mumu post.

Mr Twister , that scripture ,Phil 2:10 never said "including Yahweh himself"
V10 says " to the glory of God the Father." Proof of Yahweh's supreme authority.
For instance, if the Kabiyesi of your tribe gave U a highly exalted appointment in your Community, will the kabiyesi prostrate for U ?
1 Cor 15:24 is a record of events that transpired in heaven.
U read am, yet U no get sense ?

zodiakzax:
Mr oneJ you made a fool out of yourself here, when exposed you never replied, but how have the mouth to talk for someone when you your self has issues to resolve, shame on you hypocrites, why do you want to remove a stick from another's eyes when you your self has one in yours.

All you had to do was to say, sorry I made a mistake, instead of Jews I said Pharisees, no one is perfect, the same way Gruni1234 pointed out to you that you made a mistake in the verse in your Joseph Pharoah disaster, which surprisingly you apologised for. Why can't you just do the same here bruv, yet your pride keeps showing how foolish you are. Tatime sorry for my words you guys still havnt proved that you are not stupid.

All your verbal somersaults have exposed U & your mumu trinity.
U are simply hanging on to straw ,in a desperate bid to save face.
When JWs show U the truth, be humble & learn from God's word the Bible.
Any Jew who doesn't believe in Jesus Christ (is not Christ's follower Matt 19:21), he (Christ) views them as Pharisees.
"For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees & the teachers of the law,you will certainly not enter the kingdom of God" Matt 5:20.

U were either a Christ follower or a Pharisee.
No sitting on the fence.
The Pharisees collectively plotted the killing of Jesus Christ. (Matt 26:3,4).
Abeg go rest jare
Lol

zodiakzax:
,

Yeah come, come and bail him out, come and support Barristter07 make a fool of himself, the one that argues based on Assumption, come and support him, come and make fools out of your selves...


I Praise you Father..... not i praise you Lord, He simply said Father is the Lord of heaven and earth, I'm asking WHERE IS IT THAT SHOWS THAT JESUS CALLED THE FATHER MY LORD OR MY MASTER? SHOW ME... YIU ARE USING A VERSE THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT, THE VERSE DOENST PROOF ANYTHING FOR HE MENTIONED FATHER NOT LORD.


At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man [b]the Father, [/b]save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Matthew 11:25‭-‬27 KJV

JESUS mentioned the Father, and everything is about the Father, where's is My Lord or My master? show me.

I simply want to see where it is that Jesus called the Father My Lord or My Master.

Pls kwantinu to stew in your lie lie & mumu.

johnw47:
the psalmist said referring to Jesus Christ "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever"

Father God said referring to Jesus Christ "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever"

the psalmist and Father God said Jesus throne is forever and ever
and the psalmist and Father God called Jesus "God"

you false jw onej, say that is "lies & forgeries in the holy scriptures"


2Pe 1:11  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

above, Jesus kingdom is a everlasting kingdom, which means His throne is for ever and ever as well, just like Father God said in heb 1:8 below:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.


Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


you false jw falsely call God's word "lies & forgeries", when it's false jw org. that does lies and forgeries to the Bible,
in your love for changing God's word you call Father God a liar
they don''t come any more evil than you false jw onej 


in your love for doing lies & forgeries on God's word you also call the Saviour of the world "a god"

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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"The revelation of Jesus Christ which God (Yahweh) gave him..... ". Rev 1:1

In heaven, Jesus calls Yahweh , "my Father".
REV 3:21
" To him who overcomes, I will give. the right to sit down with me on my throne, JUST AS I OVERCAME AND SAT DOWN WITH MY FATHER ON HIS THRONE"
Jesus sits on YAHWEH'S throne. His Father owns the throne.
For your mumu mind, U think U are wise but U are the crown king of FALSEHOOD & FOOLISHNESS..

zodiakzax:
how does it mean my Lord

At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Matthew 11:25 KJV


JESUS called Him Father, and He said The Father is Lord of heaven and Earth. Jesus is also Lord of heaven and earth. I asked again where did He call the Father My Lord or My Master?

Lord of heaven and earth means master of heaven and Earth. I have explained so let's do continue....



Seems we are getting no where with this argument, you are to provide the verse that says that Jesus called God My Lord or My master as he calls him Father. You are providing a verse that Jesus calls The Father and said the Father is the Lord of heaven and earth. simple question, complicated answer


How did we even start this argument, please build your case again from the start about david my Lord, not son thing again to refresh my mind. Since its obvious you can't provide a single verse to support your claim.

Matt 11:25
"At that time Jesus said, I PRAISE YOU, FATHER, LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned , and revealed them to little children"


Lies , twisting and distortion na virus for your blood
zodiakzax !!!!!!!

zodiakzax:


Liar, the bible verse in John 5:18 that it was the JEWS NOT THE PHARISEES...

Were ALL JEWS PHARISEES? No

Who is a Jew?

a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins to the ancient Hebrew people of Israel.


Who is a Pharisee?

a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity.


Bible is clear when talking about Pharisees and Jews . JOHN 5:18 SAID JEWS. You were clearly mistaken, accept it and stop you stupidity. Stop arguing bruv, you will only show more stupidity...

The matter in John 5 to chapter 10, shows that Christ contended with Jews & some were Pharisees.
Zodiakzax was not there when those events took place. Many Jews who opposed Jesus were Pharisees, they never believed that Jesus is the son of God.
Pls bring proof that no Pharisee was in that crowd.

Every unbelieving Jew (anyone against Jesus) is a Pharisee,know it today.

johnw47:
Crysthaniel

christians quote God's word
you false jw python man quote wikipedia
you believe wikipedia over the bible
but then you also believe that rainbows could be pythons, a little smile

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
^^^ Father God anointed the Word God

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Wikipedia gives exposure to your lies & forgeries in the holy scriptures U are sharing to deceive gullible people
Mr Twister,
The son sits on Yahweh's throne, don't twist it there.
Jesus said the throne is for Yahweh his Father(Rev 3:12,21) & "therefore Yahweh, your God anointed. thee (Jesus) with the oil of gladness above thy fellows" (companions, sons of God, ( Angels) Heb 1:8,9& Ps 45:7
1 chr 28:5. Luke 1:31-33

johnw47:
Crysthaniel

christians quote God's word
you false jw python man quote wikipedia
you believe wikipedia over the bible
but then you also believe that rainbows could be pythons, a little smile

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Psa 45:6  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 
Psa 45:7  Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
^^^ Father God anointed the Word God

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Mr Twister,
The son sits on Yahweh's throne, don't twist it there.
Jesus said the throne is for Yahweh his Father(Rev 3:12,21) & "therefore Yahweh, your God anointed. thee (Jesus) with the oil of gladness above thy fellows" (companions, sons of God, ( Angels) Heb 1:8,9& Ps 45:7
1 chr 28:5. Luke 1:31-33

johnw47:
it's very simple except for the blinded who of course have not the Spirit
if some cannot understand they should at least believe the Bible
but you fales jw's neither understand or believe God, and change what He says

God the Word(Spirit) became man(flesh)
the Word(Spirit) is God
the man(flesh) is the Son of God
Jesus is both God(Spirit) and man(flesh):

the Father is also God, and false jw's cannot understand that, or anything, of course

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The satanic spirit of falsehood , confusion& contradiction dwells in U.
The word ( one spirit being) was with God (a spirit being), two distinct spirit beings can not be the same spirit being except U get room at Uselu/ Yaba.
Mumu brain.

That's definitely not Yahweh, the ONLY TRUE God.
The head of Christ is God" Yahweh his Father (1 cor 11:3)
Jesus had gone back to heaven to live with Yahweh when Paul wrote that scripture.
U no go fit twist 1 cor 11:3. Rev 3:12,14,21.
"begotten of the Father" means created by the Father,Yahweh.
Mumu brain glued to mumu doctrine.