₦airaland Forum

Warri _Pikin: I had always wanted to avoid this civil war debate largely going on between Igbos and Yoruba.
But Chimamanda mentioned something i had always had in my mind.Which is that Nigeria always knew it would defeat Biafra because it had more weapons,soldiers and the entire international community, so why then do you need to starve Igbos on top of it? I don't know who advised that policy,but it was a wicked over kill.
It is even more painful that in the end, Biafrans were defeated purely by military capture of all their towns and their airports. So why were those children starved to death?

Exacta mundo. I've always wonder. Another question that I've always wondered, if you Nigeria has more weapon that the Biafran soldiers, you know automatically you have the advantage. Why go after the civilians and shoot at the civilians as oppose to the military in an effort to subdue the military. You already had more power over them so why try to reduce their power by taking a stupid, unnecessary, evil, route? There is a difference between a war and being flat out evil.

odumchi: Two young boys posing with their day's hunt. Ahaba (Asaba). Circa 1906.

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This is just wrong. I'm not sure if those boys positioned the gorilla's arm like that or it just happened to be like that but it just wrong.

pat077: why do u always emphasize on issues relating 2 d anioma people? And who told u ppl 4rm asaba & ibusa are proud 2 be associated wit d igbos?

I don't know who or what you are but don't ever mention Asaba again.

ndu_chucks: You are wasting your energy and time on irrelevances as shown in your diatribe of a post above. You seem to lack the capability of getting the big picture. Your unnecessary effeminate emotionalism is off the mark, below is an example of a poster that gets the big picture. Read the post and think.

Please dude

I'll say it once more "Their story is similar to the stories of Delta, Enugu, Anambra, Lagos, Ondo, Middle-belt, Rivers, Ghana, etc farmers/villagers whom have accused the Fulani of terrorizing their community. All this people have no connection with each other, some are miles away from eachother yet their accusation correlate with eachother and their culprit are Fulani Herdsmen. Incase you've never heard of something called criminal pattern, that right there is a criminal pattern. I got everything I need to make a verifiable, justifiable conclusion the community is telling the truth. They got eye witnesses of an entire village, they got testimony from an entire village, plus the criminal pattern of the fulani, and what do you have to counteract their story "a criminal or a local wore a fulani attire and committed the crime"

A minute ago you were asking me to provide you evidence that the community knew their culprits were Fulani due to them saying it is not testimony enough for you. Now because a statement supports your close-mindedness and need to hide from the reality, you make a statement with no verifiable proof. Since I'm not conversating to the other guy, I'll ask you. Any evidence to support the Journalism is out to paint fulani bad? Rewind few months ago, during my first weeks in NL, there was a thread about a crime that happened up North, the community accused the Igbo despite no name nor any sort of evidence to back it up. You were one of the people to accept it as fact. Fast forward to recently thread about Anambra peeps been the highest in Asia jail despite no names, no evidence whatsoever other than a saying from a police officer, you again were one of the people that accepted as fact. Now return back to now, you scream foul because its about Fulani. LMFAO. Once more I'll say this: These phenomena extends to Ghana, let me guess the Ghanaian journalists are out to get Fulani too right? Let me see the excuses you've made so far: you went from the local are the ones committing the crime and blaming the fulani, claimed to have proof of a false fulani, when asked for it, it came out to be a false statement. Then you moved on to their is no way a fulani can r@pe anyone even though many communities have narrated about rape. Then you moved on to the villagers statement is not good enough for you. Now its the Journalist are adding in Fulani to the mist, the villagers did not say anything about Fulani. I wonder what the next excuse will be. You've sparked my interest for reals, I really want to know what your next excuse will be/

ndu_chucks: I suspect that you are Igbo, you exhibit their kind of stubbornness. Please focus on the specific issue at hand. Where is the conclusive evidence that the criminals in this specific case, are Fulani herdsmen? The police do not have this evidence, the locals have not provided it, you yourself do not have any evidence. I am unwilling to convict any Nigerian without a shred of evidence of his/her crime. By the way, if anyone including a Fulani herdsman is caught, charged to court, and convicted of this crime, that criminal should rot in jail.

For now, we have no criminal in custody, so why vilify hard working nomads who feed you people beef instead of going after and arresting real criminals?

Mschewwwww. If I'm Igbo, how the f2k does that concern you? How the heck did that even come into this? Irrelevant.
Once more listen to yourself and tell me if you think you are making any sense. If a lion is attacking your house, are you going to the police or animal shelter and tell them a cow is attacking your house? or are you going to report a mf lion is attacking my house? What sort of justification do you think you are making? The community narrated what it is that is terrorizing them in their backyard (i.e: the fulani herdsmen. No matter how much you try to spin it, it is the FULANI HERDSMEN that did it. Shikena). This Nigg@ is talking about do they have prove to support it. Yes they have proof. There eyes, ears, brain, that natural senses that teaches them how to survive. An entire village cannot gang up and make up a lie about a set of people. Noone is stupid enough not make notice of what is terrorizing them. On top of that, an entire village, population pass most likely 200, have the same people narrating and scared of the same sh1t they actually went to the state government begging them to help them, sent elders to the police station begging them to help them and you are here talking about any evidence. Even if this people caught the fulani herdsmen, you would still be making some form a excuse. Remember the enugu incident? When they caught the fulani in the Enugu attack and killed the guy, you still accused them of attacking an innocent man. I can go and get a quote right now for you. I'll continue saying this: Their story is similar to the stories of Delta, Enugu, Anambra, Lagos, Ondo, Middle-belt, Rivers, Ghana, etc farmers/villagers whom have accused the Fulani of terrorizing their community. All this people have no connection with each other, some are miles away from eachother yet their accusation correlate with eachother and their culprit are Fulani Herdsmen. Incase you've never heard of something called criminal pattern, that right there is a criminal pattern. I got everything I need to make a verifiable, justifiable conclusion the community is telling the truth. They got eye witnesses of an entire village, they got testimony from an entire village, plus the criminal pattern of the fulani, and what do you have to counteract their story "a criminal or a local wore a fulani attire and committed the crime".

ndu_chucks: @One_Naira, without a single arrested herdsman and evidence that he committed any crime, I'm afraid, I'll have to stick to my point. What proof did the eye witnesses provide to conclusively support the idea that the criminals are Fulani herdsmen? Wearing Fulani attire is not enough to conclude that one is a Fulani herdsman.

With due respect, for stubbornly insisting that Fulani herdsmen committed this crime without proof, Okwute Palestinians in Gaza piafuka gi isi.

mo ti bu ekpe fun

As I said, if this was a one act thing I probably believe your story over there's but there story has been narrated so many times by many communities in different states in different occasions. To add more salt to it, this is equally happening in Ghana in case you weren't aware. The fulani attacks on herdsmen and village are also happening in Ghana. I don't know about the raping but the attacking, stealing, etc is also a problem in Ghana. You cannot say the Ghanaian local are also wearing a fulani attire to commit the criminal act and then blaming the fulani. Everybody is wearing Fulani attire just to commit crime. Abeg waka go, learn to live with it when one of your own commits a crime. Judging how this is a phenomena, the possibility of them lying is slim to none. The possibility of you lying is high.

ndu_chucks: Oga, I don't have time to educate you on the impostor issue, google is your friend. I will not engage in unnecessary analysis which have no bearing whatsoever on my position either.

First off, I googled your statement the answer came out none, zero, zilch, nothing, I can take a screen shot of the google post and provide it right now for you, therefore I came to you that made the statement to provide something to back it up. I should have know it was just another empty statement on NL. I don't even know why I bother anymore asking people to back up what they say.

ndu_chucks: Here is my position: We do not have conclusive evidence that the criminals in question are Fulani herdsmen, fullstop. In the absence of such evidence, it is irresponsible and bigoted to state that Fulani herdsmen perpetrated the crime. If the police cannot show us the arrested Fulani herdsmen and the evidence of their crimes, it is unwise and bigoted to assume that the ra pings were done by herdsmen, locals, Ogbomosho armed gangs, or Igbo criminals.

I reject the notion that Fulani herdsmen ra ped anyone in the area while noting that you sir, are free to believe whatever you wish or choose to be bigoted if that's your preference.

Absence of evidence? Eyewitness and testimony from an entire village is an absence of evidence? On top of that, the people went to the cops are not youth but elders. Men who are more aged therefore more wisdom than anyone in the village and yet you still call it "absence of evidence and false accusation" Mschewwwwwww. Story teller. It's bigoted to tell you, una need to stop with the excuses anytime one of your own commits a crime. Excuses that sounds so false, not even good excuse at that. When your own commits a crime, learn to live with it.

ndu_chucks: It could be the locals, or other armed robbers and criminals who come in from surrounding areas. We have documented cases of impostors in both in the SW and SE, attired like herdsmen to perpetrate their crimes. What I am saying is that without conclusive evidence, people should not be accusing a whole ethnic group in the area of these crimes. That is irresponsible and bigoted.

The law enforcement agencies should do their detective duties and stop leaving such important functions to 70year old locals.

No offense but this sound far-fetched even for you. First of, I would like to see the documented article of the so called imposter in the both SW and SE. Second of, Of all the excuse you can come up with, this is the best you got? Just to molest a woman, they have to wear a fulani attire to do so. Rethink that over and over again and ask yourself this why? Aren't they going to get the same insult, attack, etc if caught so why would they wear a fulani attire to commit a crime that is notorious in all of the entire country. Also ask yourself, fulani attire isn't the only ones sold in Nigeria. There are Igbo, Yoruba, Edo, Ibibio, etc attires so why only Fulani attire. Comeon even you can admit, your excuse sounds so far-fetched. If it is only happened once or twice in SW or SE I'll probably believe you but this is a phenomena that is happened in so many states in different occasions. There is no way in he11 criminals or locals are the ones behind it. I don't know why anytime there is a thread about a fulani that committed some kind of crime, una would try to push it off to the local or a random criminal. When your own do something wrong, accept it. Everyone has bad apples in their group.

ndu_chucks: This campaign of calumny against the Fulani herdsmen by these locals is getting old. People who should be holding their leaders accountable for lack of law enforcement and security continue to shamelessly point their fingers at herdsmen. We've seen similar behavior in the SE where impostors commit crimes while wearing Fulani attire in a poor attempt to cover their crimes.

The problem is these locals or the police do not have any herdsman in custody nor have a iota of proof that herdsmen committed these gruesome ra pe of a newly wed. Pray tell, how did the septuagenarian determine that the armed criminals were Fulani herdsmen, simply by the clothes they wore? Does he not yet know that the criminals among them have started to impersonate these herdsmen to cover their crimes?

This is like accusing Abriba warriors of ra pe and murder simply because some craftful armed robbers and criminals decided to perpetrate their crimes while wearing Abriba regalia. Nonesense and ingredients!!

You really cannot believe it's the local doing all the criminal act while wearing a fulani attire.

Ricky_Ross: We already know these things before now nah?
Anyway Tiwa Savage na fine girl, shes Nigerias own BEYONCE

Nigerian own gini?
Nigg@, you are on your own. Tiwa Savage is beyond average

Mad Cow: https://i.imgur.com/fAROT.gif

Nigg@ WTF? You trying to kill someone with laughter?

Who is he again?

Nigg@ please. Of all the men that woman go date, na you you fit think she go take.

Abeg where is my cold water, make I wake this nigg@ up.

Ikengawo Thank you for the pictures

As for the rest of you all, at least for the ones arguing.

What is it? Can you Anambra and Enugu peeps tell us what we can do to get you people to STOP fighting. I can't remember how many times I've seen the two states in question arguing over some bs. Please what is it? What happened between the two communities? Ogini kwa?

To Anambra peeps
I have been on NL long enough to have witness you people calling unaselves "the strength of East. The brain of East. The business mogul of East, etc, etc". The thread about Onitsha heading of to Anioma state, I saw you people narrating how without Onitsha, the East is nothing. You people have made some boastful statement and noone have asked you to stop. They let you do it because it is not that important. Why are you huffing and puffing that Enugu did the same thing you people are notorious for doing on one thread? What differentiate their "pride of east" with your "strength, brain, business, etc, etc of east". It is okay for una to boast but you won't let other's do so as well. I try my best to defend Anambra peeps on NL, I try my best to stop people from attacking una but you people are making it very difficult task. Learn to respect others. (I'm not addressing everyone on these. The ones I'm addressing know themselves)

To Enugu peeps
What is it with attacking Anambra people by calling them criminals, ritualist, etc, etc during una bs? It is disgusting to even know you people think these way of your own brother. Anambra might attack your city but they do not go around calling una names. Grow the f2k up on that. Just like they got criminals, you equally do too. (I'm not addressing everyone on these. The ones I'm addressing know themselves)

@ Abagworo
I had so much respect for you. To see you following chino footstep right now is just sad. SMH!!! That boy sure have corrupted so many people.

R.I.P to Jonathan's brother.

The rest of you people are disgusting people. A man died and this is what una are saying. SMH

I was going to address Baby Mama until I saw some hypocritical @ss people up in here. The same set of people that were licking and kissing Agbotean butt months and years ago are all of a sudden going against him and seeing ika as Igbo now. I can't be the only one that find this sh1t funny.

The joy of Africa. Lmfao. Even China sees us underneath them. Mschewww. What a shame, a great continent destroyed to this point

Roflmao. what a nation? Corruption and greedness

Abeg nwoke should inform us how much oil he wants. The @ss kissing is unwarranted.

tpia1: lets allow other african countries besides nigeria to claim these people nah?

what's your fear?

Am i claiming them? wtf?

bokohalal: Do not go there. Edos/Binis were NEVER slaves!

You must be kidding right? If you honestly believe that then i urge you to go read history of bight of benin which strenches from modern day Benin to sw. After doing so, go read Benin slavery trading.

ogugua88: Eze Promoe, you have another task lol.

In all seriousness, One_Naira, I don't know the kind of phone you use, but I have an Igbo app on my iPhone. I think the dialect is of Imo (I'm from Anambra), but I still find it helpful. There are visuals with proper accent marks, as well as pronunciations.

Thank you. Just went to play store and googled Igbo. They even have an Igbo translated Bible. Wetin person no go see?


Random question to everyone, out of curiosity:
If the dialect of the app is in Imo, would it be alot harder to learn since Imo state Igbo is one of the harder part of Igbo?

icon aus: It is amazing that the article mentioned igbo and yoruba then an inferior tribe yoruba made claim of the discovery and dropped igbo . this sis a clear case of inferiority complex . Seeking relevance where it matters not . It is up to the yorubas to prove their worth in Nigeria and uplift the country instead of claiming carribeans .Whether igbo is spoken there or not , it does not improve our condition in nigeria where igbos reside . This is a discovery that people should comment freely, objectively and maturely without making it bigotry . This is clear of yorubas always seeing igbos as a threat even where unnecessary as in this thread . Probably is likely that other nigerian languages ( minority) are spoken there . Some people should grow up.

I know there are some ibibio elements in Dominican Republic. I won't be surprised if there are some Bini elements in some Caribbean, Canadian and American nation as well seeing as they were equally in demand as slaves.

I honestly cannot stand when people chest-beat over the most ignorant stuff. There are elements of Yoruba in Cuba, Brazil but not the entire Caribbean nation. Similar to the fact, there are elements of Igbo and Akan in Jamaican patio, some Haitians still contain Igbo elements within their pidgin. Equally the same for some Ibibio words are found in Dominican Republic, etc, etc, etc. Slaves kept some of their language, bits of their culture and many that are tracing their ethnicity as of recent are learning the language of tribes they believe they descended from and some opening places to celebrate those tribes. Equally the same way they have an oyotunji village in south carolina, the same way they have an Igbo village in Virginia. The same way they have a Zulu village in some south american countries (Idk where though, I just read it one of their articles), etc, etc. SMH @ some people

Sucks for me. I'm a visual learner so this would help me a bit but not so much. I wish someone would make a video on how to write and read Igbo.

all4naija: Nonsense! Some of your comments don't make sense at all!

You are entitled to your opinion they say.
I stand by mine, you stand by yours.

Ha biko kwa nu. I was not blaming nor pointing fingers at anyone. I was just giving input and trying to explain to afam about what usually turns a "pro-igbo" anioma into a "I'm not Igbo" kind of person. Yes to SE being called fake-igbo is nothing to get all bent over about and it's nothing to worry yourselves over but to SS Igbo, that word holds a lot of negative meaning. There are some strong enough to take it while there are those that aren't. It kinda similar to how many of una get all bent out of shape when Anambra peeps speaks of their self-made superiority to the rest of Igbo clan and how they are the father of Igbo people. Some of una are able to take that insult while some are unable to do so thus lash out against Anambra people.