₦airaland Forum

Obiagu1:
@ EzeUche,

I'll one day be an Igbo leader and all these bulls**t will end.

Being an Igbo leader is no mean feat. You need a lot of brains and less brawn to lead Igbo. Even Ojukwu, with all his military background, was reluctant to go to war. He tried everything he could to avoid war. Igbo respect him because they know he did his best within the limit of his age and life experience. He was a young man of 33, but he was wiser than old men.

Obiagu1:
@ Ivynwa

This thread wasn't about war, it's just a recent digression probably from the last 2 -3 pages.

This quote from Dede1 is where the war thing came in but it was still within thread topic until some of my younger brothers took over :

I shall go out on the my limb to advocate that Ndigbo MUST maintain close relationship with the Ibibio, Ogoni, Ananng, Atama, Ekoi and few Ijo of eastern region. My allusion was informed by the events transpired before, during and after Nigeria-Biafra civil war. There were majority of people from these ethnicities that stood tall and firm with the mainstay of Biafra. Such personalities included but not limited to Kogbara, kobani (Ogoni), Okilo, Opigo (Ijo), M.T. Mbu (Atama/Ekoi), Effiong, Asoya, Akpan, Bassy and Udofia (Ibibio/Annang).

I am not sure the way to Opobo must go through Ogoni, Annang, Ibibio or Ijo. There were Ikot Abak and Igwe Nga. Although some revisionists would want us to believe that Igwe Nga is also Ikot Abak (Abasi). Traveling from Aba to Opobo will reveal that both sides of the roads do not belong to Ibibio or Annang people. Also traveling from Obiehie (Obuehie) junction along Aba-Port Harcourt road through Akwete/Ndoki/Azumini/Ohambele/Akirika/Igwe Nga to Opobo reveals the track to Opobo does not exclusive fall to Ogoni. Also, from Obigbo/Afam road through Umuagbai to Opobo is not exclusive domain of Ogoni.

I do not think Ndigbo had to negotiate its way to the Atlantic ocean in case of war-driven disintegration of Nigeria. Alaigbo is not landlocked as goofy punks would want us to believe.  However if Alaigbo is landlocked, Ndigbo had no better option than to fight their way to the sea.

That is why I say that we must remain focused on what we need. Why fight for something you can get without firing a single shot?
No one in his right senses would deny Igbo access to the sea. That is why I was happy that we have documents proving Igbo presence in those areas before colonization.

EzeUche22:
Now we are singing the same tune again my brother!

All I need to do is get you to agree on the MIGHT MAKES RIGHT philosophy when dealing with the Ijaws and we can be a united front!

We are a united front. There is no chance of a division in Igbo ranks this time. Remember our goal is the same, we disagree on strategy, that's all. Ndigbo have already tried some aspects of my strategy and failed. We can try yours next time. Of course we must keep all options on the table.

Ivynwa:
@Ezeuche and all
    Your thread is a good but delicate one, don't you think? The non Igbos like Ziddy and Bkbabes that kicked against the thread do have a point. I am an Igbo but it just ain't right digging up the wars of the past and how it should have been fought better. That is not just "so yesterday" but a little bit an affront on the dignities of the other tribes that fought that war. Talking about war, haven't we all heard that wars are now obsolete? Which international community? Even the U.S have tired of war, the Iraq one just ended some days back. The terrorist, talibans and suicide bombers too don tire sef. What is in vogue is we humans living together in harmony and love to the extent that we are looking past the tribe of whoever it is presiding over our country to behold the true qualities that makes the person and how good the person presides over us.
   Should we continue this Hausa, Igbo, yoruba, Ibibio, Ijaw etc differentiation forever? If yes then the only thing that can bring us all peace should be each tribe having a country of their own, for then and only then can our heart be at peace that the presiding person is of the same tribe as we are. I mean isn't it high time we stopped preaching against tribalism and still legally practising it in the politics and leadership of our country through this regional "Hausa will rule today" and "Igbo will rule tommorrow" thing. This goes to show that we can never integrate and I still strongly believe that this country of ours needs to be broken into some smaller parts(not from the tribal sense), just parts that are enough to enable resources reach the millions of people that make up our population. Let us remove this oil (that many are clinging to) from the equation and we would have been perhaps 4 or 5 different countries excellently growing on their own but No! we all cling to oil without making much progress, I don't even see the money from the oil when many are hungry and poor and there are no jobs for the youth. Let us all other Nigerians leave the oil for the deltans/rivers and go make sweeter countries for ourselves, the same thing goes for the muslims up North if they can't tolerate other religions and have to keep killing others of other religions then they need their own country too (Ghadaffi sure had it very right). I mean we need to begin to make sense and leave comfortably in a society free from segmentation and demarcation because we believe differently religious-wise and speak different languages that had us classified in tribes. It blows my mind that our skin colour are all the same yet we can still see all these differences.
   I don't mean any disrespect to all liming on this thread but it will be fairer to other tribes here in NL if we are discussing how to improve the lives of Nigerians as concerned Igbos and not how the war wasn't fought well enough(for what?) and bemoaning when and when are other Nigerians going to give us the Igbos chance to sit on the presidential seat (for what?). A country that has agreed to be united irrespective of tribe should not be concerned with "which tribe is ruling"? and "when will my tribe get to rule"? If not so then where is the U in the UNITY?

Nne I also want to be the Pope.
Does it mean it will happen? HELL NO.

So lets be realistic. No need for pontifications. You need to go and read up on Nigeria's history. Anyone who quickly forgets the past will most likely repeat the mistakes of the past.

udezue:
EzeUche, and Igbo will be fighting that war squarely on their own because they went on their own to make a useless pact with Fulani North who are not known to live up to their promises. Now do u see where Igbos are heading with your strategy?

Lets examine an alternative scenario.
Igbo supports Jonathan for 2011 and 2015 (cos he is going for a second term ). He finishes in 8 years time.
The north takes over and complete their own 8 years.
The south west (cos we blew our chances in 2015 ) takes over from the north and complete their 8 years
The north takes over from south west and complete another 8 years.
Now, lets add the years up:

8 + 8 + 8 +8 = 32 years.

Bros I can tell you that Nigeria cannot even survive past 2015 if the north reneges.
I don't think anyone wants Igbo mans trouble in Nigeria. The north is not stupid. They understand Nigeria and want to keep it one. That is why they are making the statements.

Solomon227:
IBB has never honored his words. The records are there 4 u to see. He is saying all what u want to hear and unfortunally some are gullibly beleiving him. IBB killed, maimed and lied for 8.2 years beating any Nigerian leader records. U guys calling for IBB dont know what u are toying with. This guy represents Lucifa in Nigeria and like I always do I will cont praying for any1 that tries to bring the Devil back to the thrown.

Iff IBB really killed innocent people knownly and intentionally and u people know and still want him back, may the agony, pains, lamentation and sadness of the families that have lost their dear ones be visited on all the Devil's supporters. May they never know peace like IBB denied us peace between 1985-1999. May d true IBB start doing what he likes doing best with Big B1,ferari, Depilot and every other deliberate disciple of the Evil one

Back to sender!
Nna na wa o! Since when did IBB become more evil than Obasanjo? And I mean really.

Under IBB, I was proud to be a Nigerian because my president defended Nigeria's territorial integrity. He kept Bakassi, sent our troops on peace keeping missions (though I don't like that, but it gained us some respect in Africa), threatened war against South Africa because South Africa was encroaching on Equatorial Guinea, and generally boosted Nigeria's image in Africa through his smarts and swagger. Under Obasanjo, our nation lost all -strength, prestige, territory and integrity even with oil prices at $150/barrel. IBB did all he did with oil at under $20/barrel.

So, by a long shot, he remains the only capable hand I have seen in this race so far.
Anyone who curses me for supporting him will bear the curse on his own head. 

If you are afraid that he may want to die in office, then, do something about the idiotic structure of the country that makes every goat want to die in office. All our presidents want to die in office. How is that an IBB issue?

Please spare me all these nonsense talks.

EzeUche22:
My very own father fought valiantly during the siege of Onitsha so you are using only antedotal evidence. Yes, the Ohafia/Abam warriors are known far and wide, but we were not in the leadershjip positions, of course we could not tap into our true potential. 

The biggest lesson of Biafra is that in times of peace, we should prepare for war, and in times of war, we should prepare for peace. We should never have invaded the midwest region and we should of focused on the Niger Delta. Not pacifying the Eastern Ijaw was our BIGGEST mistake. We should of handled Adaka Boro when we had the chance.

I cannot fault the bolded. I think that the "Adaka Boro issue" should have been dealt with thoroughly before the war started.
Okay I'll say one more thing. The Biafran leadership lost sight of the strategic picture before the war started. It is good to be "flexible" at all times because that makes you unpredictable. Our leadership was too rigid and predictable. They were courageous of course, but too fixed. The Ijaw was not Biafra's biggest headache if we did the right things first.

I still recall the first gulf war and all the diplomatic attempts by the US President George Bush senior to get Saddam Hussein to withdraw peacefully from Kuwait. That effort lasted for more than 6 months. At the same time of diplomacy, the senior Bush was busy building international alliances. When he launched "operation desert storm", he said I paraphrase "I want to tell Saddam Hussein, that no nation can stand the might of the international community". By then an armada of over 70 warships from different countries was already in the Persian gulf. The rest is history.

The Ijaw "issue" was like a fly in the Biafran ointment. It should have been removed before the war.

udezue:
The North will not hand over to any Igbo come 2015.[b] Honestly I am highly disappointed with OnlyTruth and EzeUche. Are u guys this gullible? [/b]The North na King makers? U see until u southerners and Igbo quit thinking the North na the Alpha and Omega u will forever treated like slaves. Look at how insolently the North is dangling some chicken drum stick in our faces like we are some hungry puppies and u see nothing wrong with it. Why can't the Igbo contest now? So the North tells you when you should run and like servants u say yes sir. You are no different than the Yoruba and Ijaw who for a while have made it a culture to suck on Northern balls.

Udezue,

If not that I know you well, I would have suspected your intentions. You mean you don't know Nigeria again?
All these nonsensical talk of "middle belt" is not fooling me one bit. Just wait until elections day, then you will see. The north is ONE, no matter what they say now. Our history proves it, and I don't see how the so called middle belt will achieve anything in Nigeria without other northerners. They know this. Informed southerners know this as well.

Believe me, you are the one being naive here.

The middle belters fought against Biafra more than the core north. In my book, the north is ONE.

So, yes, the north are the king makers, and anyone who doesn't like it should fight to secede from Nigeria.

excanny:
These so-called cyber analysts who have never set their foot in Nigeria. You talk as if Nigeria's democracy is that mature. You think this place is the US or the UK.
You really have no clue of what the north is like. How can you, when you only know Nigeria from the maps.

You have no clue of the geographical imbalance of the north and how their people reason. In 1999, OBJ lost elections in all 6 SW states, including in his own village. Yet he won the elections. If you even subtract the SE and SS votes, he will still be on the winning side. So what are you saying that the north are not king makers.

Just like bros ONLYTRUTH said, if you dont like it, get your acts together for a secession, maybe you can pull it off.

Double GBAM!

Agibecky:
Atiku and IBB are desperate.
They want to dangle this carrot to deceive the Igbos to support them.

The next president of Nigeria will not want to leave office until after two terms.

The PDP is an EVIL POLITICAL PARTY and only fools will vote for the PDP.

And we will be there to take over when they leave.
Who are people trying to deceive here? It has been 40 years since the end of the Nigerian civil war. There has not been an Igbo president. You guys want us to wait another 40 years?
You must be smoking some strange ganja.

EzeUche22:
Onlytruth,

Then I call into question why the Igbos from Nnewi have hijacked the leadership of the Ndi Igbo. There is a need for a change in leadership then, no offense to you Nnewi Igbos.

We need a new shift on the way Igbos think. Why not allow the Igbo clans who understand the ways of war and diplomacy. Yes, I am saying the Aro, Ohafia, Abiriba and Abam Igbos should lead the way. For far too long we Igbos have been pushed around, yet people are still screaming diplomacy.

The time for diplomacy is over. We must look for our own interest. From the realist point of view, another groups gain is our loss. The Ijaws gain is our losss. It is as simple as that.

And you discuss my Ibibio roots. Remember that the Ibibio have remained a stalwart allies of the Ndi Igbo. The same cannot be said of the Ijaw. As long as they honor Adaka Boro who fought against us, there can be no peace amongst the Igbo and the Ijaw. This is a blood feud. Do you think I lost sleep over Odi? I seen it as retribution.

I am not aware that Nnewi folks hijacked Igbo leadership. All I said is that we are still among top Igbo leaders.

Secondly, I remember the account from my father who actually fought in the war too. He says that when the war was brewing, the Igbo puffed about the same Ohafia/Abam warriors. When the actual shooting war started, those folks could not do much to save Biafra.

For me, the biggest lesson of Biafra is NEVER to fight EVERYBODY. You will lose. Biafra fought everybody. I don't want to repeat that mistake.

And  YES! Ndigbo should support the north for 2011.

I know that kids are fighting and screaming anti-north sentiments, but we are still in Nigeria and whether anyone likes it or not, they are the king makers in Nigeria. If you don't like it, prepare to fight for secession.

Ndigbo should support the north in 2011. At least the north has made an open commitment to support an Igbo candidate in 2015. A commitment is better than no commitment. We hold them to their commitment for whenever they leave office. That is Nigeria. Live with it!  

afam4eva:
I wonder what inspires you to type at times. Do you know anything about ken Nnamani? I that man becomes president then i'll throw my Nigerian passport into the Atlantic ocean. I come from the same village as Ken Nnamani, so i know a whole lot about him. And who the hell is Ralf Uwechue. is that not the Ohaneze leader? How does he fit into this equation. It's only Pat Utomi and Chukwuma Soludo that have what it takes to become a president. Though i can manage Chibuike Amaechi.

I am inspired by things you may never understand. How is that my fault?

I mentioned people who have demonstrated competence in leadership. Yes Uwechue is one of them! [b]Nnamani [/b]is one of them! He may be from your village, but he is not your village leader. He is a national leader. There have been many national leaders from my town, but we never even see them in town meetings. Why are you making it a local thing?
Frankly the only person I can't properly attest to his leadership ability is Pat Utomi. Others have demonstrated leadership before.

Abagworo:
@ezeuche.as you are related to ibibio,so are some of us related to ijaw either as maternal home or inlaws.you seem not to understand many issues.what ijaw groups and some igbo groups did was a survival strategy.rivers state was created with claims of granting autonomy.those included saw the war as needless since they already got a state by peace and their safety could not be guaranteed by the weaker biafran side.

Captured my thoughts exactly.

Anyone who thinks that I am a coward because I support Igbo "understanding" with the Ijaw, is the biggest fool on this thread.  If you don't know my stand on things, please take time to read my past posts.
What is wrong with our people these days?

I am DETERMINED not to repeat the mistake of 1967 -70.  That is even a no-brainer.

Not to beat my chest, but the previous Biafran effort was led by some of the people from my town (Nnewi), and we are still among top Igbo leaders even today. If you think we are weaklings then you need to go find out about us more.

Tact and diplomacy is NOT a sign of weakness. In fact it is a sign of strength. All these puff won't give anybody any advantage. 

Have you ever wondered why the US has not massively invaded Cuba and sacked the place?
Well, that is the lesson for the day.

Those who are angry that the Ijaw is now so powerful in Nigeria must also stop ridiculing the idea of Igbo presidency in 2015. To put it differently, we must support the north for 2011 irrespective of whether they reneged on 2015 or not. At least the north made an open commitment to support us in 2015. Jonathan or anyone else has not.

You can't just hate everybody. You've got to work with somebody.

My Igbo candidates for 2015:

(1) Kenechukwu Nnamani (South east)
(2) Sulivan Chime (South east)
(3) Charles Chukwuma Soludo (South east)
(4) Ralph Uwechue (South south)
(5) Pat Utomi (South south)
(6) Chibuike Amaechi (if he is Igbo ) (South south)


We can work with any of these 6 men.

ezeagu:
Enough of this. Who's ready to create the Republic of Aleebo (Ala Igbo)?

Did they serve Abam warriors Kola nut when they 'visited' them?

When I was at UNN, I heard that Atta of Igalla was a menace to Nsukka folks back in the day. Whenever he came calling, he was given "Kola" (Virgins) for his troubles.

Anyone with info on this?

Ibime:
Nobody is keeping anybody in Nigeria. We sef want comot for here. We are waiting for the second coming of Biafra or any Southern alliance that is unified and militaristically capable, not ragtag army holding wooden guns and retreating from day one. Should that time come, Ijawland will seal the deal cos our crocodiles are versed in the art of war.  

Well noted and welcome. That is what I want to hear.

Forget about your crocodiles though. Dem get crocodile catcher these days o!

Ibime:
Import and Export has never been a problem for the Igbo. With seaports in Calabar, Abonnema wharf, Okrika, Lagos and potential seaport in Onitsha through the widening of the Niger from Akassa through Ogbia and Aboh, I dont see the thirst for Alaigbo to unlandlock itself.

Lets come to arrangement like in Palm oil days. You guys handle production and we will handle clearing and forwarding.  

You better identify with your neighbor. This your quest to keep us in Nigeria will end up consuming all of us. Loosen up more.
You gain nothing by keeping Igbo in the Nigerian prison. If a war comes, it will consume locals (Igbo, Ijaw, Ibani, Kalabari, and whatever minorities in the East).

I believe that everyone in the East should share a common destiny. Splitting hairs won't pay anyone in the East.

So, yes, we will come to an agreement, a reasonable agreement.

ezeagu:
I disagree, I think you can clearly see the border towns. The mixture doesn't make a difference because many European nations are mixed with each other, yet they have strong national identities. If you disagree with me, then you must agree that there is no clear boundary between Ika and Edo lands . . . which there is.

You'll just start an unnecessary war and the people already bunkering the oil will make sure the war is lengthy. The lands should be left to those who own them, wasn't it you that said that it does not matter that Opobo was once owned by the Ibibio? What the Igbo need to do is work out something with the Ijaw concerning the Bonny and other rivers, that way you won't get a surprised blockade from Ijaw militants. Igboland still has plenty of land in Ebonyi and Enugu and even the other states. The cities haven't even been well planned, how big is Hong Kong? How big is mountain riddled Taiwan? T[b]he land below Igboland it self is small and there are a lot of swamps houses cannot be built on there[/b].

So is Ikot Abasi historically Igbo? Even Arochukwu?

I personally believe that we don't need those lands. They are fine just the way they are with their inhabitants.
My only problem is with people who ally with foreigners to stab Ndigbo in the back claiming we lack sea access.

I will say it again: The Igbo and Ijaw share a political destiny -just like the Hausa and Fulani. I don't know why you are determined to split hairs.

I don't think it is practical, believe me.

@ezeagu and Obiagu1,

I understand your mindset and share in your quest for fairness and justice and ultimate truth. Those are Igbo CORE VALUES. My greatest happiness is that there is a history (thanks to the British!) which says that Igbos intermingled HEAVILY with all those tribes facing the sea. In a land where there is no hatred, jealousy and undue fear, all those lands would identify with Igbo; but that is not what we have.
We have even some Igbo denying their lineage, so how do we expected Igbo permeated minorities to identify as Igbo? That is the point.

Until we have a clear and focused strategy to keep the East together (because we should and must! ) then, all these talks about justice and fairness will eventually go up in smokes.

ezeagu:
I understand, but we have to face reality. The old tactics are no longer an option. These towns you call Igbo are partially Igbo because they also contain a high amount of Ijaw and other ethnicities and there are Ijaw villages on Bonny Island. Whatever majority the Igbo had before should have been used to secure some beach, but that obviously wasn't their priority back then.

But Okrika and Kalabari identify with Ijaw. The Kalabari are Igbo through their mothers, and you know that that doesn't count in most of Africa.

You see why I posted my points earlier -that minding those borders would be like splitting of hairs bearing in mind the history of Eastern Nigeria.

I am yet to be proven wrong.

Once in a while, one stumbles upon an amazing progressive feat in Nigeria. This is one of them.

Great site!

ezeagu:
Okay, say that Bonny and Opobo are Igbo, how will you now connect them to the rest of Igboland when Ogoni Kalabari and Andoni separates them?

Thank you ezeagu!

That is exactly why I posted this below and asha80 attacked me for it, but I stood my grounds:

Ordinarily, one would not fault the bolded words. But we are dealing with a peculiar problem (sort of). You can make that argument if there had not been a Nigeria/Biafra war which Ndigbo led and lost. That fact alone led to about half of Igbo peoples denouncing their lineage. So, that argument is not only impractical in this context, but plays into the hands of the victors/revisionists. The case of Bonny Igbo being railroaded into speaking Ibani in schools is just one. There have been several others.
One of the attributes that distinguishes a nation/tribe/people is their ability to keep accurate information about themselves. Such information gathering and maintenance is key to the survival of such tribe.

Normally, this topic should not even arise at all, after all, we are supposed to be ONE people by virtue of our history and heavy intermarriage. This topic shouldn't even arise at all. But we have a situation where our neighbor keeps trying to tell us that we have no sea access, even when we have information which proves that they were recent immigrants to those sea access lands. How else do we explain, for instance, that a people who migrated to areas bordering with, and were frequented by a huge tribe, have been systematically gnawing at the neighbors lands even while retaining the neighbors language of trade, only to turn around to claim a different tribe?

If the Ijaw share a political destiny (as they should) with the Igbo, why would anyone remind them how they came?
Is it our fault that European slave merchants brought them, or that the Oba of Benin was a mean dude and they had to flee from him?
So, like I've said before, we are all Easterners and must necessarily share one destiny. But, when anyone tries to be mean and stab Igbo in the back for whatever reasons, then, we owe no such persons any kindness.

If left to their own devises, even some Ngwa people will claim not to be Igbo, because we still have Nigeria with her civil war issues. That is what we are fighting here.

The fact remains that the history of Eastern Nigeria is so intertwined that trying to draw boundaries there is tantamount to splitting of hairs. The British understood this very well. Unfortunately, the Nigerians FAILED to understand it.
The British left it as EASTERN NIGERIA. They had a well researched and documented reason why they did that. We've shared some of that on this thread.

mens dept:
My dear these are traits found among responsible people. Looking at what you posted, I can perhaps generalize the Arabs, Indians, Chinese, and Europeans as having these traits. As for Igbo, maybe before the war. So i[b]f you are trying to REMIND Igbo that this is how they once were as a group, or ought to be, then I salute you[/b].

Let me use one analogy to demonstrate what I think. Assuming a gold bar is stolen and buried under the ground, lets say for 50 years, what is the value of that gold bar whenever it is stumbled upon and dug up?

Answer: Whatever is the price of GOLD.

That gold can never turn into silver, or brass, or, iron, or any cheaper metal.

Igbo have not, and cannot change really. No matter how long the lies, manipulation and marginalization, the Igbo will remain the same. If you doubt me, take a look at Nigeria today, and tell me which tribe is ahead of Ndigbo despite losing a war, and our lands and mineral resources stolen to empower other tribes?

In any sphere where Nigeria is gaining international acclaim, you must see an Igbo person there.

The last point that stuck out from this paper page I re-posted (copied from Richyblack) is that given the right environment, the Igbo will produce for exports.

This observation was made in 1913, it remains true even today.

Igbo attributes summarized:

Strong individuality
Observant
Reflective thinkers (double emphasis )
Rapid actors (we don't just talk )
Remarkably keen and true sense of justice (double emphasis )
Determination to get justice (tripple emphasis )
Distinctly warlike (double emphasis )

The bolded is the most distinct attribute of Ndigbo. We not only love justice, we are determined to get it!
That is who we are.

The most unbiased information about Ndigbo, captured by a British 97 years ago (before all the revisionism began).

Dede1:
Before anybody casts stone on ChinenyeN, he or she must understand that Ngwa is nothing more than Ohunhu and Isuama trivial classification of Igbo people. The source of my historical knowledge only allowed me to understand that Uratta, Asa, Ndoki, Eche and Ikwerri were brothers of the same mother who migrated southward from the valleys of Udi hills and plains of the Rivers later known as Niger, Imo, Urashi, Qua and Anambra. The word Ngwa is derived from “Ngwanagwa” (horry).

It will amount to irresponsible ignorance for anybody to think that either Ikwerri or Ngwa is ethnicity. Also, it is unfortunate that few shameless Ikwerri people who shout about Ikwerri ethnic nationality do not understand the meaning of Ikwerri.

You meant "Ngwangwa or Ngwa ngwa" (hurry).

asha 80:
Taking it personal will not make any difference.Initially when Chinenye was making those claims you are talking about i was also a bit riled up but i was curious enough to seat back and digest where he is coming from and his growing up experience to understand that the real issue is his mindset is a bit like our grand fathers and even our father's who sort of viewed each other differently.Though i really disagreed with him in this thread

Okay which other ngwa person have you seen talk the way he talks?Do you know the number of ngwa people that post in politics section let alone nairaland?What is the difference between him and that Onicha girl on culture section.

That does not make my comment nonsensical.

I understand your point @ bolded, but ChinenyeN is not an illiterate; in fact, he is quite very educated and makes cunning comments which can have serious ramifications if left unchallenged.
I would have completely ignored him if he were semi-literate.

I would admit that because this is an internet forum, you cannot tell anyone what to say, however, other non-interested readers should not be left with a false impression or information.

You cannot change your ethnicity to suit your schemes. That is dishonesty of the worst kind.
Other Ngwas should rein ChinenyeN in. Period.

Meanwhile I'm moving on.

asha 80:
Onlytruth has the habit of making nonsesical comments once in a while.

Not sure it is entirley true though even though i feel civil war is a better word.If you really mix with a few people around the disputed axis you will understand.

So what is nonsensical in my comments? Isn't it the same thing you just observed here? Biafra or civil war,what is the difference?

Please clarify yourself before I take it personal.

beneli:
A lot of the posts on this thread have been most informative, prompting at times pauses for reflection on the politics and the fears that have shaped Nigeria, post-Biafra. But now and then, some comments interlace these well thought out posts and leave a bitter taste in the mouth. The bolded, for instance, is one of such distasteful comments.

@ Onlytruth, on what do you base your assertion which I have highlighted? I ask this not only because I find the comment patronising, as it insinuates that the Ngwa as a group [/b]are kept by somebody from exercising their freewill, but also because it almost whiffs of ignorance by stating that some Ngwa would rather not be Igbo if given the choice by whoever decides for them what their identity must be.

As an Ngwa man, I find the bolded to be divisive and actually offensive, given that it's coming from somebody who should know much better.

My comment was informed by [b]ChinenyeN who has spent much of his time on nairaland trying to prove that Ngwa is a distinct ethnic group. If you choose to turn a blind eye to his comments, why do you suddenly wake up to mine? I said "some Ngwa", didn't I?

I stand by my comment 100%.  

People cannot change their ethnicity whimsically. That is dishonesty.

^^
And that brings me back to the British again!
I have often wondered how the British came to create the regions. Now, after reading some of these pre-colonial accounts of the peoples of Niger delta, I can now understand why the Eastern region came about and the factors that shaped it. I used to wonder why the East did not go beyond Bayelsa state. I can now understand why more.