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PoliticsRe: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Onlytruth(op): 9:16am On Apr 15, 2010
^^
Also, because every rational person understands that leadership is NOT about one person, that is, a leader leads many, it is naive and childish for any person to judge a leader purely from his own personal position. That is narcissism because you are focusing on yourself only. I personally have not gained anything directly from Ikemba's leadership, but I know that  millions of eastern families would not have returned safely from Kano after the first wave of massacres against Igbos in the north in 1966. The story is the same in many other areas of Igbo life up till today.

The Apo six murder that kept Ikemba awake at nights did not have the same effect on the other so-called Igbo leaders. I don't even think they gave it a passing thought, 'cos if they did, the story would have ended differently.

Ojukwu is only one man and can only do so much as the interview here reveals. For you to continue spewing rubbish because you personally lost something to Ojukwu's leadership style is infantile.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Onlytruth(op): 9:03am On Apr 15, 2010
bilymuse:
Ojukwu is nobody hero, the guy is a fraud
Mr bilygoatmuse,

I want you to consider one point; you are NOT IGBO, so, how can you possibly be fair in your assessment of Ojukwu as a leader of Ndigbo? How does his business with us concern you, except that you are dying of jealousy?

Mind you that since the end of the Biafran war, Ojukwu has never claimed leadership over areas outside of Igboland for fear of being misunderstood, which was partly why he could not save Saro Wiwa from Abacha's noose.

So, I wonder how Ojukwu's position of leadership in Igboland concerns you.
Secondly, if you are Igbo (which I strongly doubt undecided), or even an easterner, I am throwing down a simple gauntlet to help test your honesty or the veracity of your point, and that is:
Go to any public place in Igboland where you can find a sizable number of people, example are Aba markets or football stadium, Onitsha, Enugu, Nnewi, Owerri, Abakaliki, Nsukka or Umuahia or Arochukwu, and shout at the top of your voice,
"Ojukwu is nobody hero, the guy is a fraud".

I guarantee you will not live to tell the story. And if God forbid the popular crowd gets to know your family home in Igboland, be rest assured that it will be bulldozed and cleared away before the next day.  cool

I dare you to try this and come back to report your experience here. If you don't do that, then you are a phony and a charlatan, an enemy of Ndigbo.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Onlytruth(op): 1:34am On Apr 15, 2010
Some are still waiting for Ikemba's memoirs but I'm really not one of them. Ojukwu lives and breathes his memoirs!
His life is very much before our very eyes and any Igboman who is unencumbered or uncompromised realizes that the man is second to none in the history and leadership of Ndigbo.

I still state that I have not seen any other leader so loved and cherished in Nigerian history as Ojukwu, and that loyalty and followership is not for free. He has paid and continues to pay his dues for Ndigbo. Igbo are among the most difficult people to lead. Yet, Ojukwu cannot go to any part of Igboland without stopping the traffic involuntarily.

The challenge is for us young leaders to study him and understand what makes him tick, what informs his single minded service to his people. Why is it hard these days to find leaders like Ojukwu?
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Onlytruth(op): 8:19am On Apr 14, 2010
This is why I will love this man till death. The man is ONE AND ONLY true leader I have seen in the whole of Nigeria in my lifetime so far. Peter Obi seems to have some of his humility and virtues, but truly there can only be one Ikemba Nnewi, Dike di ora mma 1 of Igboland.

We the young and emerging leaders must copy this man!  cool
PoliticsOjukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Onlytruth(op): 8:15am On Apr 14, 2010
Why did you say you won’t allow him to present himself again for an elective post?

I think he has done his bit. There comes a time in every man’s life when you just need to find the nearest beach, find a deck chair, sit by the ocean and reflect. I think he is at that stage in his life. He has done nothing but live and breathe the Igbo course. Sometimes he would hear of some injustice somewhere and he would stay awake all night, trying to find how it can be redressed. I remember the situation of the Apo six. He would wake up at night and say to me ‘whats happening, have these people been found, what are you gleaning from the media. Any time an Igboman suffers any form of injustice, it makes his blood boil, even in situations when he feels helpless. At such times I simply pray to God that he does not have a blood condition because he see him so agitated. At such times, I also tell him to stop knocking his head against the brick wall. I think he has sacrificed everything including his family. There are things he ought to have done but didn’t have the time to do because of his struggles. Now, I think that whatever time he has left should be used for his family, to nurture the family and let other people carry on from where he left off.

You are the closest person to him and I want to know whether people will ever get to read his memoirs

Like you and everybody else I also keep my fingers crossed. But I can tell you that he has been writing but slowly though. Some times he wakes up, remembers an incident and then writes. One thing I know is that he is not writing the account in sequence, he puts down incidents as he remembers. At the moment, there is a group currently showing very strong interest in getting him to complete and publish the memoirs. But I do not know how soon that will be. And it is something that we all really need to see, to know what really happened or more importantly how his mind was working at the time, his fears, anxieties and aspirations, what he wanted to achieve and why he took some of the decisions he took. A lot of people still do not have a real grasp of those things and we need to get into the innermost recesses of his mind to know them.

But is he really working on it?

Yes, I know for a fact that he is working on it but at a snail speed.

You still look trim and fit, how do you manage to keep this fit.


Do you know what it takes to run this house, run my NGO, run my law chambers? There are so many things I am doing that some times I don’t even have time for lunch. I think I am overworked. I don’t think it has to do with any beauty routine. The work is enough to keep me trim. We have a swimming pool that I only use when my kids come on holiday and I join them there occasionally. I have a gym which I rarely use. But when I get the opportunity I walk around the compound for health purposes but strictly speaking, I don’t have a beauty routine.

You said your parents were opposed to the marriage but what we know is that it was your late father who was opposed to it?

I think it will be unfair to say that it was just my father that was opposed. My mother had her reservations also, just that she had a different style of showing it. Mothers being what they are, they would hardly cast their daughter adrift completely no matter the circumstance. They don’t want to come out openly and deny or lambaste you. Mothers always try to nurture. But my father was left with the tag of being the chief opponent of the marriage. My mother had her reservations and to tell you the truth, as a mother I would do the same thing.

Right now I am the proud mother of a 12 year old daughter. Even if she was 25 or 30 and comes to tell me that she wants to marry a man twice her age, I would still refuse. Yes I know your next question, yes I did it but that does not make it the usual pattern. Its not conventional and it can only be handled by somebody who is mature and wise beyond their years. And I tell that I support my father’s action. He did the best thing any parent would do for his child. It would have been disappointing if he gave his support without any form of resistance. Basically he did the right thing. My mother had her reservations too, just that my father's own was more prominent because he was more domineering. But the truth is that it was his resistance that has largely helped to make this marriage successful.

Really?

Yes. Because my husband then had to be very careful. He knew that if he didn’t treat me right and things didn’t go too well, he would have my father to contend with. And my father also gave me a crucial advise which I have always cherished. You know we were living in Lagos and my father told me that if I ever had plans of raising kids with my husband I must ensure that we come back to settle in the east. My father had this very strong sense of identity of where he comes from which was why he insisted that my kids be born and raised here in the east. It was his advice and one that I would ever treasure and it was the best decision I ever took.
When did you eventually come back to live in Enugu
After our wedding we moved to Abuja, After a few years we now came to live in Enugu.

Do you agree with people who say that the Igbos have neglected Ojukwu?

It was said that the Igbos neglected Zik, Okpara and Akanu Ibiam. But before you can substantite that statement you have to look at Ndigbo as a people. We are republican in nature. So its hard to determine the level of love, adulation and respect the Igbos give to their leaders. But in all fairness I think that Ojukwu has been luckier than most Igbo leaders. I have been with him to so many parts of Igbo land and I am moved to tears by the kind of reception he is accorded. I have seen a whole market dismantled just to get his car to pass in the tick of massive traffic. I saw youths dismantle a market just for his car to pass. When you go with him to a place like Aba, the reception is better seen than described. So I think the Igbos love him tremendously and they have shown it to him.

Take the Anambra election for example, the other candidates had so much money and support from the centre. But Peter Obi had virtually nothing, he was like the under dog. Yes he was governor but don’t forget that he no member of his party in the state House of Assembly. But he had one man and this man had only five words to say; This is my last wish. How many other people could do that and get the kind of response Ojukwu got. People came back from all parts of the world in response to that call, though some of them were disentranchised and so could not vote. They have shown him love. They love him and see him as their treasure. Of course if there is any one that can come up boldly to berate him in the newspaper, it would be an Igbo man but they still love so much. As for neglect, well do not forget that his father was the first millionaire to come from Igboland and the first African to enter United Kingdom without a visa, yet his son is such a simple man.

Ojukwu can live in a card room box. Even if it an old, haggard looking 504 car Ojukwu would enter and be driven to his destination. That simplicity is the greatest bond between him and Peter Obi. Peter would come here to visit us like any other Person, yet people who are not even governors would come with a convoy of seven cars. He is very modest and frugal man. You would see him queue up at the airport. If you permit him he would travel on the economy class. Both of them are alike because they consider themselves first and foremost as servants of the people. They do not brazenly display the paraphernalia of power. Peter Obi certainly does not do that. His popularity with the populace is phenomenal. He may not have that with the elite who thinks that he should defer to them but he defers more to the masses. In that light Peter Obi and Ojukwu are very much the same.

If you go to Peter Obi’s house he would refuse to serve you champagne. I think the highest he would probably give you is red wine or stout. If you ask him he would tell you that he knows the cost of champagne because he trades in such commodities and knows their astronomical cost and thus considers it rather criminal to drink such stuff randomly. He says people can do that in their houses if they wished but he would do no such thing in his own house. His style is not usual and he is a very principled man. Many people do not like the fact that he is very frugal administrator. He is a hands on person who could step in and do things himself. If you visit him he will be serving you by himself in spite of the retinue of staff. He is unassuming and his people like it. You cannot believe his level of simplicity.

That’s the bond between him and Ojukwu. Do you know that Ojukwu never handles money. As I talk to you he probably does not know the colour of one thousand naira note. People administer those things for him. Ojukwu is so contented with whatever he has. As long as there is water to drink he is fine. You know before we moved to this place, we were living in a very small house and he was happy there. To a very large extent he built this new house because of me. I was the one who told him to get a bigger place and he would say no matter how big the hose is you only get to stay in one room and just one bed eventually.

I tell you for two years this house was completed and furnished yet Ojukwu did not move into it. He considered it too big. I actually tricked him into moving here on the night of a Good Friday. I just told him to get into the car for an outing and that was how I brought him here having moved some things to this place earlier. We left the old furniture in the former house. He was raised in affluence but he has little or no regard for anything that connotes wealth. I think such people are very rare to find, people who are willing to divest themselves of the paraphernalia of wealth and power. Somebody once said that it a great man to be little. I never really understood the significance of that statement until I came to live with Ojukwu. If Iwere asked to chose three words that would define him by way of an epitaph I cant do batter than saying that he was a simple man

Read whole interview here
PoliticsNuclear Nigeria? by Onlytruth(op): 11:31pm On Apr 13, 2010
Nna na wa o!  shocked shocked shocked

I came across this BBC news; this picture drew my attention. Knowing that Nigeria is one of the most disorganized countries in the world, could it be true that there are nuclear materials (or weapons material) in Nigeria?
If true, they should be removed, ASAP! WTF! shocked


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8618915.stm

PoliticsRe: Goodluck Ebele Jonathan For President! (Vote Now) by Onlytruth(m): 11:13pm On Apr 13, 2010
adamabdul:
i will not vote for GJ,not even as vice president.And i dont and wouldnt care what the polls(above)will be afterall it is in this same site that i saw charles soludo winning Anambra election
Exactly why I called this poll childish. I've learned from that Anambra election.
PoliticsRe: Goodluck Ebele Jonathan For President! (Vote Now) by Onlytruth(m): 8:25pm On Apr 13, 2010
cantell:
@Onlytruth,
The large nos of people who support  IBB are mainly fraudsters,International thieves, looters, drug pushers,arm dealers & a few importers/Int. Businessmen.
Which category are you in? I mean minus importers/Int. Businessmen - cos you're definitely not in this category.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin lmfao!
Chei! Nigerians!

How can you say that about me. C'mon its not fair now.  cry

I am an immaculate, "unbuyable" and indefatigable defender of my beliefs in political and social justice.  cool

. . still rolling on da floor.
PoliticsRe: Goodluck Ebele Jonathan For President! (Vote Now) by Onlytruth(m): 7:14pm On Apr 13, 2010
Normally I would vote for Jonathan, but the Nigerian politics I know discourages me at least as far as 2011 is concerned. OBJ may still be pulling the strings behind Jonathan and I don't trust OBJ at all. angry

The north wants power back and there is nothing anyone can do about that. That is the issue. In a different scenario (without a "ruling region"wink Jonathan would emerge president next year.

Nigeria was mortally wounded in 1967, and things have remained the same ever since. I don't expect things to change until Nigerians start understanding this fact.

So, since I know that power is going up north next year, I would vote for IBB because only him understands these things and is bold and courageous enough to take them on. I can't see any better northerner yet.  Give me another northerner with a proven record of understanding Nigeria better and I will switch to him. cool

Meanwhile I'm not casting my vote here because I think it is a childish idea.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan, Obj Have Hidden Agenda –braithwaite by Onlytruth(op): 8:34am On Apr 13, 2010
I haven't taken enough time to study Tunji Braithwaite to know whether he is capable of making dubious allegations. All I know is that any allegation of an OBJ maneuver trips off my alarm bells.  shocked

Could Jonathan be an OBJ proxy?
Painful as this may be, I gotta know the truth.

I also think that they are unnecessarily dragging the name of the US into messy Nigerian politics without any justifications. Nigerians should learn to solve own problems and stop accusing foreigners blindly.
PoliticsJonathan, Obj Have Hidden Agenda –braithwaite by Onlytruth(op): 8:32am On Apr 13, 2010
[size=14pt]Jonathan, OBJ have hidden agenda –Braithwaite [/size]
Written by Kunle Oderemi

EMINENT politician and other personalities, under the aegis of Nigerians United for Democracy (NUD), in Lagos, on Monday, urged Nigerians to be vigilant against perceived moves by former President Olusegun Obasanjo to have third term in power through the back door.

According to them, the former president was trying to achieve it through his supposed proxies like the acting president, Dr Goodluck Jonathan and the former chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Mallam Nuhu Ribadu.

Dr Tunji Braithwaite, the leader of National Intervention Group (NIG) said one of the ploys being employed by the former president was the speculated attempt by Jonathan to return Ribadu as EFCC helmsman.

The revolutionary lawyer condemned the reported secret talk between the acting president and Ribadu in the United States (US), describing it as “an unholy romance of Oba-sanjo protegees hell bent on reactivating the buried third term agenda of Obasanjo in a new fashion.”

A statement by the spokesman of NIG, Mr Kintoye Branco Rhodes, quoted Brathwaite of condemning the alleged schemes by Jonathan to nominate Mallam Ribadu as his Special Adviser on Corruption and questioned the rationale for dropping all the charges against him.

“For the benefit of the doubt, the current leadership of the EFCC is more experienced crime buster, which, in all circumstances, has surpassed the record of Ribadu by available facts,” the statement read.

Braithwaite said all legitimate means would be deployed by Nigerians to frustrate the agenda of the clique.

He, therefore, warned the United States government against dabbling into  the internal affairs of the country so as not to provoke Nigerians.

“Yes, the world is now a global village, but nonetheless, we should be wary of international meddling in our internal affairs,” he warned.

He disclosed that the NIG had already proposed the setting up of a regime of peoples’ courts throughout Nigeria to dispense justice.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/3950-jonathan-obj-have-hidden-agenda-braithwaite
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 12:14am On Apr 13, 2010
Kobojunkie:
I am not speaking of that one though. All the men in that picture have taken turns at the seat. This new picture is probably going to blessed by people like you willing to vote out of hate for your fellow Nigerian.
I don't vote out of hate. I vote out of survival instincts (first law of nature). You would at least accept that a man is entitled to that. No hard feelings. cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 12:07am On Apr 13, 2010
Kobojunkie:
No, Abacha was not in the picture.

I am speaking of a picture that was probably taken in 2007.
NO, I am speaking of the picture taken in the 1960s. That picture is more incisive.
In that picture OBJ and IBB were playing draft while Abacha and Danjuma looked on.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 12:00am On Apr 13, 2010
Kobojunkie:
Older than I am in internet years? Probably but I doubt you are in actual years, from your comments so far.


Nigerians oooh!!! Short-term memory issues ooo!!! I still say, your hate for Obj might be what he needs to get his circle complete. Continue thinking you score one against the Yorubas when you vote IBB. Remember the picture with IBB, Yar adua and Obj in it? Think who will be rejoicing with you when all three men in that picture get a go at the presidency coutersy of your hatred for your fellow Nigerian who just happens to be of a different tribe.
Yes I remember the picture! Abacha was also in that picture and nearly killed OBJ in his jail.  grin
That picture is so deceptive because even Danjuma and OBJ don't speak to each other now.
IBB is the most detribalized  of them all.

And Yar adua was NOT in that picture!
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:57pm On Apr 12, 2010
Anyway as I was saying, I will vote for IBB if he picks a VP I can trust. I will not be blackmailed by duplicitous characters with questionable morality.

If OBJ was good, IBB must be better. cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:37pm On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
What? How old are you again?

So, all the yorubas who suport him are what then? I don't get the reasoning above. You presume to speak for a whole tribe neglecting the fact that all you seem to be doing is speaking out of ignorance yourself?

I am not going to get into tribal nonsense with you or anyone. At least try to show the Yoruba's that you yourself are not bitter by being less bitter in your retorts.
So you know how to write Yoruba but turn resolutely ignorant when you write IGBO. That duplicity is what I hate most in commentators here. You better repent.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:27pm On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
Well, @Onlytruth, I  think about 6 posts prior, I explained how it is OK for you to claim the man but just do not bring all IBOs into your shell. Ibos do not all subscribe to the cheap delusion that the devil is better than  . . . .  Many of them, some of whom I am quite close to, are actually very intelligent individuals who strive for the best no matter the situation. That  you are willing to settle is your lot, not that of the Ibo tribe.
Believe me, the moment you sit down, calm down and pick up your Nigerian history 101 or Nigerian politics 101, when you finish it, you would begin to see my point. Mind you that every people have a leadership. It is not by coincidence that you have few leaders and majority being led. What I see is what a potential leader sees.

You may not believe it but I want Nigeria to work. Nigeria will NOT WORK with the continued marginalization and scheming out of my people from Nigeria's leadership positions. It will not work. It can only lead to disintegration.

That is why I am more virulent in my hatred of OBJ than you could ever begin to understand.
Nigeria is the only country where you anthropologically find the Igbo, unlike other major tribes. So, my stake in it is HUGE. Therefore I will not allow myself to become a minority in a country I should be a majority. No Igbo with enough political sense would argue against my position.  cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:12pm On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
NOPE! Only you are going to give us a list of all those who make up that group above, assuming you are still not referring to the general Ibo populace, You still DO NOT speak for that group either.
Whatever! I know of only ONE tribe with a semblance of that name NDI IGBO also called IGBO. Anything else is an aberration.

Meanwhile don't derail this thread!

I'm sticking with the devil called IBB. cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:07pm On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
NO YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR[b] IBOS [/b]here. You speak for yourself but in a deluded way think you speak for ALL Ibos. I don't need to hang myself when I can easily respond telling you you lie when you say that.  smiley
Yes, I do not speak for IBOS, I speak for NDIGBOcool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:06pm On Apr 12, 2010
Anyway, back to my message. IBB is not the worst that can happen to me next year. I see far worse possibility!
I remember one guy from the north saying that Yar adua would be worse than Shagari even before he won the elections. People waved him off with things like Yar adua's masters degree. We now know better.
Until I see someone with a better proven record of fairness from the north who can surpass IBB, I'm sticking with this devil.  cool cool cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 11:00pm On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
First and foremost, I did not attack your person there. I simply wanted to get it through to you that you INSULT the intelligence of ALL IBOS out there when you presume you SPEAK FOR ALL and KNOW WHAT ALL[b] IBOS[/b] think in this, and that is a fact. I have gotten the inputs of other ibos in this. I even presented your logic to them to understand if they agree that your experience is typical to other[b] ibos[/b] who lived through the Babangida regime of the late 80's/early 90's. In my previous post, all I did was convey their reactions to your own claims. No Personal Attack here! just letting you know, and understand YOU CANNOT go around generalizing, thinking you are doing what you are for all ibo land.
Do you read your own posts before posting on here?
Excusez moi! Speaking for self is not same as coming in here, generalizing and presuming all of Ibo land shares the same brand of delusions you do. The average Ibo man in the streets of Aba would likely fight you for thinking you understand ibo land with the way you spew the stuff you on here about[b] iboland[/b].  They do not all immediately jump to spewing tribal trash when the road to Uzuakoli collapses for the umpteenth time, or when erosion claims another inch of the road to uturu, and the governor refuses to do much about it yet again. The people do not think all think federal government when faulks road floods up for the 100th time in their lifetime. Many of them know that the problem is right there where they are, and so please stop assuming you speak for even these intelligent folks.

Now on your personal opinion of IBB, like I said earlier, I will accept that it is yours but please STOP/Desist from assuming all IBOS think as you do.
I think I have already achieved my aim here which is to expose people like you. You cannot even hide your contempt for us -IBOS this IBOS that.

YES I SPEAK FOR IGBOS HERE. Go hang if you don't like that!  cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 6:08pm On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
No, please stop. I KNOW IBO People and they do not all think as you do. In fact, anyone who really understands ibos knows for a fact that once you leave a certain village, and move to another, chances are you get a completely different point of view. Please STOP RAMBLING thinking you speak for all Ibos. In the time I have been conversing with you on this particular thread, I have consulted six ibos who think you an idiot for presuming you speak the mind of all Ibos when it comes to IBB.

If you really are ibo and love ibo people, then you will know to stop bringing down a whole tribe by claiming they all subscribe to the same brand of delusions that you do.
What I hate is personal attacks, but I won't let it derail me.

First, stop calling[b] IGBO[/b] people IBOs. I know you've been warned severally by other Igbos here but you won't listen because of your contempt for us. Please try for once. cool

How do you even come off thinking I speak for Igbo people? What are you smoking? huh huh huh angry angry angry

I don't speak for Igbo people, I speak for myself! cool I only happen to be Igbo, and am watching the strategic pictures of Nigeria. There is no paddyman for jungle. Nigeria is a jungle and I have to survive in it! I don't have the luxury of dreaming. IBB understands Nigeria. He is better than all those from his side of Nigeria (most of who have no clue undecided like Yar adua) about Nigeria's core issues. He is diplomatic and courageous enough to effect needed change at the center.
PoliticsRe: S’east Speakers Back Iwu For Re-appointment by Onlytruth(m): 5:51pm On Apr 12, 2010
kwende:
IGBO MEN NA WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
MONEY DON CHANGE HAND
Here you go again. Does it occur to you that they may actually be doing their own "Nigerian politics"?

Personally, I want Iwu to go because he should have resigned when OBJ wanted to use him to steal elections in Nigeria. But saying that these guys were paid is childish and pedestrian.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 5:44pm On Apr 12, 2010
It is pure stupidity for anyone who knows me here on nairaland to suggest that I support IBB because of personal gains. You guys still have a lot to learn about Igbo people. We are not all for sale, you know undecided. If we are, OBJ will still be in Aso rock and Andy Uba will be the governor of Anambra state.

Normally, I would prefer a NEW and BETTER candidate from anywhere in Nigeria, but our history warns me against that. We were all here when Obasanjo came out of jail in 1998 hungry and dusty and clinching a bible. We all shouted for joy when he emerged president because we believed that jail must have changed the man. Alas we were wrong! In under a year, he was already scheming to undermine the congress (both houses)!

Those who said that Igbos controlled the senate presidency under him- NO they didn't! It was Adulsalami Abubakar organised transition which allowed the zoning in the PDP. So 1998 -2007 was not Obasanjo's zoning. It was PDP's before he came on board. While he was on board, he sponsored the impeachment of three Senate Presidents -Okadigbo, Enwerem and Wabara. Only Nnamani survived because the north were then determined to stop Obasanjo's schemes.

Why is OBJ still being discussed? Because he still basically dictates what happens in PDP. An IBB presidency will stop all that.

So that is why I'm adopting (strictly my personal views) the notion of the devil I know is better than the angel I don't know. I am watching the strategic political scenarios. I don't watch pedestrian things.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 9:15am On Apr 12, 2010
^^^

You know, I really don't think these people understand the details of why Igbo would support IBB. I would give them one example. Under Obasanjo's political marginalization schemes, the Igbo (arguably the single largest tribe in Nigeria) was schemed out of the four top political positions: President, Vice President, Senate President, Speaker of the House of Representatives. Notice that our peers in Nigeria -Hausa and Yoruba, never missed those positions. Obasanjo could only allow us a humiliating "Deputy Senate President" position. An Ibrahim Babangida presidency could never have allowed such idiotic marginalization. He is not moronic like OBJ. The gorilla called OBJ is even scheming for more Igbo marginalization (I won't give details here), but any Igbo who was properly suckled by his mother would put his/her eyes down to observe things for himself/herself.
Nigeria is a bed of injustice, and my people are at the recieving end of it.

IBB can help us change that.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 8:45am On Apr 12, 2010
006:
hahahaha @ Onlytruth, we came up with the same answer. wink
Says we are feeling the same thing bro! wink
These guys don't understand. cool
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 8:44am On Apr 12, 2010
006:
I don’t speak for all Igbos, but I know the general opinion of IBB in Igboland, so I can tell you authoritatively that they like him.

Well, for me to vote for IBB is out of frustration. None of our leaders have done the right thing including the big hope OBJ gave us about census and national ID card, all were not to be.
IBB is the only one so far who has talked openly about true federalism and state/regional police which I staunchly believe in and which Emeka Anyaoku advocates for as well. What can I say? All our leaders are criminals and a devil you know is better than an angel you don’t know.

And I ask you, who do you prefer?
Exactly.   undecided undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 8:41am On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
No one said you need to pick between IBB and OBJ. What are we going to get next? Someone trying to compare Obj or Yar adua with Abacha? Please AIM HIGHER for crying out loud!!

Like I told the other person, DO NOT pretend to speak for all ibos. If you personally love him, that is fine, but DO NOT pretend to speak for all Ibos.

How can a man who DENIED you democracy after a 'free' and 'fair' election give you true federalism? How can a man who essentially removed all qualified leaders from office so he could install his Northern muslim brothers and make his office as powerful as can be give you true federalism? How can a man who polarized the nation more than any other leader before him did, give you true federalism? Come on, that is absurd. Where do you people get these things from?
Let me tell you, IBB tried to balance Nigeria in state creation during his last rule. That is part of why Igbos love and trust him. He is the only candidate so far to have even said anything about restructuring -State Police, true federalism. No other candidate has even had the guts to mention these topics. If they did, please tell me who did. undecided
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 8:13am On Apr 12, 2010
Kobojunkie:
I have been here long enough to know that the above is a lie from you @OnlyTruth. You of all people openly admit to NOt believe in a Nigeria. So how can you look for a solution to Nigeria when you proclaim you do not believe in Nigeria?
grin grin grin grin grin

Look, I believe in a Nigeria that works. I don't believe in the one that does not. I also hate an unjust Nigeria, even if it turns out to be "heaven" for some, not for me.

No, seriously, how old were you? Why in the world would anyone in his right mind ponder such? What makes Wole Soyinka president material? Why does it seem that as soon as someone becomes known to us, even if the person has an appalling record as a record, or none even, we start clamoring to have that person installed as a leader? Who in his God given right mind would think to have Wole Soyinka as a LEADER, let alone a president? See me see wahala oo!!! lol
If you think that my belief in a Wole Soyinka presidency in 1998 was infantile, then your opposition to an IBB president today is (for lack of a better word) naive.


[b]After restructuring? [/b]Pray tell how you are going to come about this restructuring, and serious rectifications of which you speak of when you are advocating we re-install a past leader with an appalling record as president in our new and fragile democracy? Utopia? Where??
Yes, after restructuring! I don't see any other person capable or willing to do it from the north. You would even be most naive to assume that the north will not get back the presidency next year.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 7:48am On Apr 12, 2010
^^^
You may not believe it but I'm actually looking for the solution to Nigeria's problems.
You cannot have a carnival in the middle of a war. What you do first is stop the war, then you can throw a huge party.
Most people here are thinking like I was in 1998 when I was wondering why Wole Soyinka could not become president. Instead it was a criminal in jail called Obasanjo that was dusted up. That was the real Nigeria then, this is the real Nigeria now. We do not have a system that can produce an Obama. Not yet. After restructuring and some serious rectifications, we will then have an environment for that. Right now, it is utopia.
If you cannot follow this logic, I cannot help you.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 7:38am On Apr 12, 2010
stiyke:
I wont waste my morning discussing with you, your logic defies reason. You are damn right!! i will shut my father up if he acts or reasons or speaks like a teenager.
He whom the gods want to destroy, they first make mad. You are a symbol of everything wrong with this entity called Nigeria.
Thank you, my son! lol!  grin cool

You spotted the problem correctly. Only I didn't start it.
PoliticsRe: I’ll Run For 2011 Presidential Polls, Says Ibrahaim Babangida by Onlytruth(m): 7:11am On Apr 12, 2010
stiyke:
@kobojunkie, save your strength, dont argue with teenagers.

@Onlytruth and your like, "Just shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up !!!!"
You are the teenager, trying to shut up your father. undecided sad

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