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ifymadu:
My dear, I'm just tired of the kind of childish comments coming from nairaland, what do I even expect from a gathering of children still under mummy's roof. They really don't understand what it means to be raped and the trauma such victims go through, people here just trivialize everything as if all is a joke. I really salute the courage of Timi and wife, this is something that must have been eating them up for a long time. I pray they go through this healing process and come out stronger and better. Rape is a very terrible crime and must be treated as such.

I doubt the bolded will be the case.

This is definitely going to be box office quality.

bendike:
Even if all you say is true. She was bellow 18 and therefore a minor and not responsible for what ever happened. Under the law it is a criminal offense.

This is the irony of the entire episode.

Its been 20 years plus.......

Why now!

What could have triggered all this having let sleeping dogs lie all the while?

What is the motivation?

The real big question I would prefer answered is

'What does the Dakolo lady REALLY want?

Is this not beyond an attempt at seeking healing?

Ladyhippolyta88:
How can sharing your trauma with the world be a mistake? They risked it all to come out in the open if this is proven to be a lie then she and her husband have much to lose. So they must have thought about this before coning out.So I would not downplay this allegation.
Me self ba spectator.

Madam, I am of the opinion that there is more than meets the eye.

Remember that we are stage is still set in goo old Nigeria. Nothing is beyond us.

This incident supposedly happened many years ago.

Please I am only trying to be objective. I do not claim Christianity or indeed any religion.

I have nothing to do with Onyinbo (As a matter of fact I only get to hear of him when he features on nairaland FP).

I also have nothing against the Dakolos I really do not know them but something is definitely not wholesome about this entire thing).

Nigeria is a funny place and so are the events here. Observe closely and without prejudice and you will see the undertones clearly.

I assure you that there is more than meets the eye. I can feel it.

I took a long and hard look at the accused guy and I must say that he does indeed look like a player but accusing him of rape may perhaps be taking it a bit too far.

Even as I type this, I can imagine how many women in his congregation would willing tango with him in return for whatever. And he does have a lot to offer having developed and improved himself to this rather 'ENVIABLE' level.

Just my thoughts though.

Again, I patiently await POSTERITY as the ultimate judge.

Ladyhippolyta88:
This comment of yours is truly silly.
Try not to be insensitive it takes a brave and supportive man to do this.
If she is a victim of rape then you have no idea the trauma this woman must have pass through no need justifying nonsense.
Only an idiot would try to trivalise rape and it's victims.

I beg to differ Madam.

I cannot make many words at the moment. I am just using my tongue to count my teeth.

I do however consider this a very sad mistake and a serious sleight of hand on the part of Timi Dakolo/wife too.

I will nonetheless prefer being a silent spectator as I know that this is just act One; Scene one.

As ALWAYS the truth will prevail ultimately.

jackslow:
I have the following items for sale
1) Gas cylinder 12.5 kg with gas still in it ....10k
2)6 by 6 bed frame with a bedside drawer 48k
3)6 by 6 unbranded mattress 32k
4)big drawer with dressing mirror 29k
07017607723 they have been used only for about 7months

Does the cylinder come with regulator and hose?

I am offering 6k for just the cylinder and 7k for cylinder and hose.

I am sure I will need a truck/taxi to convey it to my residence from wherever you may be residing.

Abidec76:
iyanaipaja lagos

Whats the offer for just the rug and the fan?

Happy workers day!

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4. The initial capital outlay is anywhere between 45,000.00 and 4,500,000.00

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8. It is important that you note that this is no get rich quick scheme. it is a traditional selling model with long term rewards perspective.

9. Gross profit is anchored on a minimum of 10% per cycle and a cycle could last anywhere between one 1- 3 days and a max of one week.

10. This is no pyramid scheme or multilevel marketing experience. You do not need to canvass/recruit other prospects but to sell directly.

11. A very well designed and and efficient marketing plan/strategy is already in place and it has been tested and trusted and adopted.

12. Finally, this model can only work effectively [/i]within the densely populated towns/cities within the South West [i]as far as Ilorin/Offa.

I suppose I have provided as much information that will help you decide if this is a business to consider or otherwise.

Remember, all you need is a trial experience with an amount not exceeding Twenty Two Thousand five Hundred Naira (22,500.00) only after which you then objectively decide the trajectory you wish to follow.

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If we had just 10 Oyedepos' in this country who needs a national government?

In more advanced climes he would be revered as a National ICON.

Even his worst critics will doff their hats when reality dawns as they visit the CU.

My father, British trained at all levels, retired as a professor in a Second Generation National University and always rated all private Universities as substandard. As a member of the council, he visited CU together with his colleagues and there he knew that Khaki is definitely not the same thing as leather. Indeed, Oyedepo is iconoclastic.

i would have expected the government to adorn him with the highest national honour by now.

But what do I know?

lifenajeje:
Onyxx I know u are quote busy ....am still waiting for my bread..if I know ur bakery I can always pick it up cos I move around a lot .

I have no tenable excuse for this lapse. You are always on my mind. You will receive a call tomorrow and an arrangement will be made for you to pick up the bread on Tuesday morning at Agege or Ogba.

Thanks for your understanding this far.

I also tied calling you for several weeks myself. No response and sometimes no connection at all.

joshuaudom:
So when you call someone once or twice and the person and the person did not pick the call or return your calls, to you it means that you have been cammed. You never thing of anything else that could happen.

This scam mentality is not allowing us to move forward like other nation.

skarlett:
Seriously Boeing should put off unveiling anything that even resembles an aircraft for the next one year at least

I couldn't help but respond to your quip!

Simply hilarious.

Your very apt post is indeed 'skarlett'.

Kudos.

Finally, if there is anyone interested in setting up a specialized bread distributorship within Lagos and indeed the entire country you may kindly indicate here on the thread and I will guide you accordingly.

If you handle it well the specialized bread investment can give you over 25% of your investment on a weekly basis.

In other words, your 100,000.00 investment can give you 25,000 on a weekly basis without fail if of course you are willing to commit and persevere.

Today, I wish to advise those who intend to go into bakery ownership in the long term.

Please understand that this is my personal perspective and drawn from my observations in the industry.

If you have the interest of owning a bakery in the future I strongly suggest that to make it easy for you consider the following steps.

Avoid a theoretical Consultant. In the majority of cases a consultant is a failed baker. The best consultants are usually the ones who are currently running a profitable bakery; this is an index for identifying who you should hire as your bakery set-up Guide. Alternatively, get a job in a bakery no matter how lowly the position and salary and then observe keenly and with resolute exactitude how the bread process works. Ensure that you LEARN and UNDERSTAND the various stages that constitute the process, raw materials,recipe and very importantly also play around with the raw materials and configuration.

If you spend one year in the job and also draw a lot of theoretical back-up from the Internet especially Youtube videos you should be ready to launch out on your own.

Another option is to adopt the business angle. A lot of bakeries fail because they have absolutely no clue whatsoever about how bread is marketed. They bake the bread and then are at a total loss as regards how to get it to the consumer. A very good option for the business minded entrepreneur would be for him to identify a new bakery that has appealing products, register as a distributor and start selling bread.

Two things will benefit him from this angle;

1. He will learn the ropes of bread distribution.

2. He will build a robust database of customers who will constitute his own initial customers when he sets up shop.

Feel free to drop your questions here and I will consider it an honour to attend to it. You must however understand that it could take some time before I respond. I am really very busy at the moment especially with having new products coming up.

Another very obvious reason why bakeries close prematurely is the copycat nature of our business environment. Someone has a little or a lot of money. He decides or is convinced by another that the bakery business is the bomb. Without an iota of interest he heads there and after a cursory analysis most times with the aid of convoluted self-acclaimed consultants he ventures into investing in an area he has no knowledge whatsoever about.

He rents/buys a location, acquires and installs the supposedly required equipment (often at a seriously over-invoiced cost in favour of the consultant) and thinks he is ready to rake in the money.

He then decides to hit a home run by recruiting his baker and of course prefers to poach a baker from an already existing and apparently flourishing bakery. He offers the baker a mouth-watering package with promises of regular reviews in tow. The baker then resumes and all they do is to replicate the recipe of the bakery that is flourishing and then try to compete in the market.

No ingenuity and definitely no originality.
All you do is replicate the same product in the same environment seeking of course to ‘steal’ some customers from a respected brand.

Is it therefore surprising that the business collapses in a short while?

In my opinion, in order to succeed in this business one has to consider carefully what you are putting out there in the market. Just producing the same recipe is nonsense. That is why you see some new bakeries flourishing.

In Abuja NEXT bread sold within the NEXT supermarket confines attract very good patronage and the reason is not far-fetched. Ditto for Grand Square in Alausa, Barcelos in Ikeja GRA, Roban bread from Roban Stores and the ubiquitous ’Shoprite bread’ to mention just a few.

Pricing is a psychological issue. If you give a certain level of value I can assure you that you can sell so much bread you yourself will be surprised. Whatever you are offering should be a product from a well thought out process hinged on originality, ingenuity and appropriate value.

Never follow the Jones when starting your bread. Consider doing something new and different and then if you strike the right palate chords and adopt an effective marketing model, you should coast home with significant profits that will justify your investment.

lifenajeje:
Thanks for the mention @ cooking

Is ikotun part of civilised Lagos ?

If not I don't mind picking up this bread from civilised part of Lagos oh

Am already salivating thinking about the bread

Okay. Ikotun is great area.

We really don't sell our bread there but we are considering appointing a distributor there for the various brands we have.

If you can post a phone number here today (I will copy it and you can delete it subsequently) i will arrange for you to have the bread sometime this week. Our dispatch rider will call you and deliver the bread either there or somewhere close.

Ikeja, Egbeda, Agege, Dopemu are options.

One of the greatest causes of premature closure of bakeries and abdication of the business is a poor understanding of the business.

In the majority of cases, people just jump into the business without a proper study that unveils the gray areas of the business.
This is of course a very common streak among Nigerian businesses but I daresay it is very prevalent in the bakery industry.

People just assume that just because there are so many people in our towns then there has to be need for more bread and bakeries.
The same applies to the sachet water business. There are so many people in both businesses now that the ROI (return on investment) is now taking 4 times the period it used to unless........the business is set up by someone who knows what he is doing.

To worsen matters there have sprung up all manners of Charlatans claiming to be Consultants who are supposedly knowledgeable in bakery set-up and management. These sweet talkers arrange very short and peripheral bread making seminars and charge humongous amounts and yet give absolutely nothing in return.

And your guess is as good as mine as per the predominant gender populating the classrooms; women.

They pay so much and are given absolutely nothing in return.

Finally they are cajoled into making large investments in baking equipment and from a preferred vendor too. If you know you know.

Over 99% of these attendees who venture into the business fail woefully and guess what the investment is flushed down the loo.

One very important index in deciding if you should hire a consultant is to see what he is doing in the present. Never rely on past achievements and academic laurels. You will be a victim of a very smooth scam. Baking bread is a very serious business.

Making money (profit) from a bakery investment requires a business mindset and this begins with the first decision of how the training and skill is acquired. As a rule of thumb, never engage a bakery set-up guide who is not currently running a bakery. I daresay that I have come across 14 consultants in Lagos alone and none of them runs a successful bakery.

Some of them are even right here on Nairaland.

Mark my words; a really good baker does not usually have the time to develop, market and execute seminars. At best he may invite you to learn right in his bakery.

There is nothing that compares to a practical learning experience.

It is for this reason that Doctors spend more time in a teaching hospital.

I will mention something here. The Igbos have perfected the art of apprenticeship. Be you an illiterate, SSCE holder or a Graduate, one common streak runs through; you must understudy a the business you want to deal in for many years before branching out on your own. and this is done in the shop and atmosphere that is similar to what your day to day experience will be when you start your own.

Bread making requires the same approach. No point investing 5 Million Naira in a business without intending to sit down and bake it yourself.

Of course you can adopt an investors approach if you have the funds as you can hire experienced hands to run your bakery for you in all facets. Many money bags do this with a significant success.

Any body, consultant or not who advises you to invest 10 Million Naira in a bakery and then allow others to run it in your absence is doing you great harm. Sprint away from such a fellow. If you must adopt that model you need at least 50,000 - 100,000 dollars to ensure that the business takes off on an even keel and becomes successful in the shortest possible time.

This is the hard truth and it is drawn from experience.

ImaIma1:
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My case is even funny. I didn't just drop my surname. I also dropped my middle name and answer his first name as my middle name...lol.

Not funny at all.

Indeed that is how it should be.

But then, I am not surprised, your moniker did you in. It exposed you completely.

You come from the part of the country that truly understands the concept of marriage.
And you are likely to remain married till death and you almost always get your way in
all things but without as much as a confrontation.

Indeed you have been taught well and some of you graduated 'magna cum laud'.

Bravo!

Always looking for something to argue about.

What manner of contemporary sophistication are you exhibiting?

And some men are even supporting it simply to appear socially correct.

Margaret Thatcher was an iron lady ruling UK for many years with her husband
Dennis Thatcher in the background and it didn't make her ineffective or unsung.

Winnie Mandela thrived on the Mandela brand and and refused to drop the name even after the divorce.

And who says accomplished women do not change their names after marrying.

At the peak of their careers the under-listed women married and adjusted their names to reflect their new status
without any qualms;

1. Ifueko Omogui (FIIRS)

2. Abike Dabiri (HOR)

3. Hilary Clinton.

It is only a deep seated emptiness that manifests in the pushing for some of these unrealistic positions.

You need to wake up and realize that certain standards have been developed over the years and arguing about it doesn't just make for progress.

One day we may be advocating that beyond retaining their maiden names all the female children should bear their mothers maiden name.

Such baseless and avoidable confusion.

Do you really understand what a name represents?

If you love somebody enough and TRUST his love for you and see him as your PROVIDER (and here does not only connote a material sense) and PROTECTOR then you will consider yourself priviledged to be immersed in his life warts and all.

connkg:
Welcome back.
You'll need to give lifenajeje a loaf of bread for his perseverance...

Welcome again.

Okay, ifenajeje, please send me a location within civilized Lagos and be assured of the best coconut bread roll your palette has ever tasted.

We can do this as soon as you are ready to take delivery.

The bread is packed as a dozen of rolls and it sells for 1000.00

You can then describe your feeling here on the thread.

This weekend I will deal with the the myth about the profitability of otherwise of the bakery business.

A cursory visit to the Alaba International market in Lagos will reveal that a large proportion of traders are involved in the sales of Industrial kitchen Bakery equipment.

This alone tells you that ther is a huge demand for bakery equipment. It also goes to emphasize the fact that the bakery business is probably more profitable than what people know about it.

I mean it wouldn't just make sense for Importers to import so many industrial ovens and other equipment without knowing that for sure all will be sold. Bakery equipment sales is big business and it will remain so for a long time to come.

On the other extreme we also find out that a lot of bakeries are closing down and some of them just after operating for just a few months. When this bakeries fold up. it dies with a lot of unfulfilled dreams and aspirations. Then follows the desire to recoup the initial investment as much as possible and this is usually a herculean task.

As a matter of fact it is rare for you to get back 50% of the initial investment.

Even here on Nairaland, you have a number of adverts seeking buyers of equipment belonging to moribund bakery investments.

Most of these equipments are in the most pristine of conditions and only require proper servicing and installing. As a matter of fact I have bought several used equipment from Nairalanders and those equipment were simply wonderful. Remember that if you buy the right specs of equipment, some of them are designed to last as long as 20 years so buying a fairly new equipment that has only been used for a year at 50% (it can be that low depending on a number of variables) of the cost is a very good deal.

The purpose of this piece is not to discuss equipment be it new or used. This is only a preamble to the main gist which has to do with the why and wherefore for the regular collapse of bakeries in Nigeria.

lifenajeje:
We are waiting

I will resume this weekend.

My keeping you in suspense wasn't deliberate.

But I think I can spare some time this weekend.

Keep a date.

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Fancyteemah:
Nairaland family I greet you all, I'm an architect by degree and experience, but currently unemployed. I've tried all possible to get a respectable job to no avail and private jobs are not forthcoming, the ones I've done have not been paid for. This Architectural field has a lot of female prejudice because a lot of employers and prospective clients just assume that you are incapable of producing quality designs like the male counterparts and this is what I have been facing for years...I'm very skilled at 3d rendering, AutoCAD, ArchiCAD and the use of Photoshop for Artistic presentations. Please I need help getting a job and I'm currently in Lagos. Any suggestions will also be appreciated.

Do Architects still build models or has everyone gone the Autocad/3D way?

I am considering making a model.

lifenajeje:
Chief..trust u are good ...I know u are busy pls don't forget to update " demystifying the bread business thread"

Cheers.

I am indeed very busy but I haven't abandoned nor forgotten the thread.

I have set myself a deadline and that is that I will conclude thread before end of February.

Kindly bear with me.

Many thanks!

omoayeni1:
I still have everything intact since my wife said it’s cant handle the machine, the machine is still with my cargo company,yes am selling together mixer and the baker
30k mixer 250,000
9 trays of baker 750,000

UnlessI am mistaken Sir, the picture of the oven above does not reflect a 9 trays oven. It looks more like a 6 trays oven.
The conventional 9 trays oven has three decks with 3 trays per deck. What you showed up there shows 3 decks but it looks more like only two trays can be accomodated.

Secondly I advise that you review your prices downward and better still conduct a survey in the bakery equipments market to compare what prices are being offered for these specs before taking a stance.

Perhaps I could be convinced to buy if the prices were more attractive than what is published above.