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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 4:49am On Aug 27, 2020
@Ligxy @NaijainCanada @Aig842 @Mamaroon @SlowlybtSurely @einsteino @sollie123 @40manlappy @yokus @Silversurfer1
Thank you all for your good wishes. Amen! I believe God will see us through.

@Ethelia, thank you. Has been kinda slow but we will get there. It has been only 3 weeks, with 2 weeks of it spent indoors. I have registered my kids in school which is good, so they will be starting in the first week of September with the others.

Calgary is beautiful!


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 3:43am On Aug 27, 2020
I’m due to arrive first week of September and Calgary is my ideal destination an an oil and gas professional... but most flights destination is to Toronto. So I’m thinking Toronto atm.

What do you think? Do you think it’s a good idea?

Any similar quarantine options available in Toronto?

For those that just arrived Canada; how did you show quarantine plans? How did you get to your destination? I would imagine I’d have to drive myself to keep away from others. No? How to you show plans for medicals and groceries as stipulated by IRCC. All suggestions are welcome please.

Is there a WhatsApp group of oil and gas professionals to join in Calgary or Toronto or wherever? I would have to start job hunting soon enough.

Any other suggestions on how to make my landing smooth and quarantine easy would be appreciated.

Hello. Which carrier is bringing you to Canada? Hope it is a reliable one to avoid my kind of experience.

You can book a connecting flight from Toronto to your destination. When we arrived 3 weeks ago, we took Air Canada from Toronto to Calgary. We had to wear our masks. All travelers do. Do a google search on arriving Canada, there is an online form you have to fill. Or you can download the ArriveCAN app and fill out your travel information and quarantine plan there. You have to do this 48 hours before your trip. We were given the same form on the plane when we landed. They will ask for it before you leave the airport.

You needed to be able to provide the details: address/accommodation, phone number, how to get groceries, etc. It is one of the conditions as you are not encouraged to have physical contact with ANYONE while you are on quarantine. We had our friends help us rent an apartment before we arrived. They helped us find a place, then we signed the lease electronically and made advance payment. Our friends would also shop for us and leave it by the door, we have not even seen them till now, even though our quarantine is over, lol. You are going to receive calls everyday from Alberta Health (I think) to ensure you are abiding by the rules. They will ask you questions like: if you live with someone who did not travel with you, do you have visitors, do you have a balcony where you can get fresh air, how you get your groceries etc.

The whole aim is to minimize the spread of the virus. You also have to monitor the news. After we arrived, there was news about flights that landed in Canada that had covid-19 cases. Thankfully ours was not one of them. (Link: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/another-group-of-international-flights-land-in-canada-with-covid-19-patients-1.5067157)

Boost your immunity by taking Vitamin C, Vitamin D and Zinc. I did this for the whole family. Then use your hand sanitizer often, use disinfecting wipes where you need to and always, always wear your mask. I brought more than one set of mask for the family, thankfully we needed it because out 24 hour journey turned to almost 48 hours.

Safe journey. You can ask me more questions here if you need to.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 10:46pm On Aug 18, 2020
Just found these articles online. This is what would have happened to us if we went for a refund. They have a whole lot of reconciliation to do. Wamos Air abandoned the passengers they were supposed to take to Lagos from Newark, so 7 Star is in a mess.



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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 12:37am On Aug 18, 2020

Forgive me for prying but I thought one needed to be in Canada for 2 out of 5 years in order to renew their PR? Where you and your husband travelling back and forth in the intervening years?

You are right. We have 2 years + left.
Travelling back and forth, no.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 5:56pm On Aug 13, 2020

Really! Ladies aren’t allowed to create threads or what exactly is surprising you? I’m genuinely curious.

Funny. I get that a lot. People always think I am a man, guess it’s in the way I write.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 5:54pm On Aug 13, 2020

oohunt IN THE e-FLESH!!!! Congratulations

Thank you.
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 5:52pm On Aug 13, 2020
We checked ET, it was very expensive and the journey would have taken 52 hours.
KLM/Air France we even went to their office in VI. They had a list and was reluctant to add anyone to the list because they had not received approval to fly in August. It was at this time that the announcement that the Nigerian airspace would open in October. Lol. I was not going to wait till October.

I was also part of a WhatsApp group, people from the group actually left in June and early July. The group was dissolved after the early July flight. Then we booked Egypt Air. Most airline websites would not allow the payment to go through if they are not operating. Their website did and we thought they would fly. They eventually cancelled.

Also heard about the Cotonou -> Calgary route. Didn’t think the road trip was going to be good for children. Alone, I would have done it. But not with children.

I would advice anyone who wants to travel to go for Air France. They have a flight leaving every week, Thursdays. They did not respond to my emails. Not sure why. But they will be more structured. And yes, they demand for covid-19 test. 7 Star/Wamos did not.


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 7:39am On Aug 13, 2020
The story of my return to Canada.

Hello all, you may know (or not know me). I started this thread 3 years ago when I wanted to understand what it was going to take to live in Canada. We had our soft landing in 2017 which I shared.

So, our decision was to finally migrate in the summer of 2020. By then, my daughter will have completed her primary education. And then covid-19 struck! In the mist of the chaos, the fears and global uncertainties, we maintained that it is still a good decision to move. We have spent close to 3 years in Naija. It was going to be now or we lose out completely.

Canadians and PR holders were exempt from the Canadian travel ban. We started looking for flights in June, even though the Nigerian airspace was closed. We learnt about the evacuation flights and searched for ways to get on one. We contacted the Canadian embassy in Nigeria. They told us that they no longer organize flights because (1) of the shelter-in-place enforced in Canada (2) they heard the Nigerian airspace was going to open “soon”. They told us about a flight organized by a third party company known as 7 Star Global Hangers. We reached them and booked to leave on the 31st of July at 12pm. And so our journey begins...

7 Star is a Nigerian company who partnered with a Microfinance bank and Wamos Airline (Madrid) to evacuate stranded Nigerians to USA and Canada. We got to the airport on the 31st and joined the queue outside the airport. Only to be informed after about 45 minutes later that the flight (Wamos Air) had not even touched down in Lagos and that the flight has been postponed. The most annoying thing was that we contacted 7 Star the night before to confirm this flight, and they said that everything was okay. We also learnt that there was a WhatsApp group and that most people knew that the flight would not make it. We did not have reliable information about why this flight was postponed. Other people at the airport told us they said 4pm and another said 10pm. We had to make several phone calls to our contacts at 7 Star, 2 ladies, who did not know what was going on and could not give us any definitive response. Later in the evening, I called another number I found on their flyer, the MD of the microfinance bank. He told me that there was an issue with the payment between 7 Star and Wamos Air. Wamos refused to leave Madrid until they receive their full payment. This issue was due to scarcity of forex. Our flight has now been postponed by 4 days. Imagine! So, we went back home.

It took my persistence (and that of my husband) to get added to that WhatsApp group. The only 7 Star staff that could add us had issues with her phone. This plus the fact that she could not read or respond to frustrated passengers did not help matters at all. At this time, I did not have any faith in them or in the new date. But my husband was more patient than I was. He maintained that we should wait! Left for me, I would have demanded a refund. But a refund from a Nigerian company also has no guarantees. They can decide to refund you 1-2 week later….by that time, we would have lost out completely if the flight eventually leaves Nigeria.

So, came Tuesday the 4th, the flight was postponed yet again, to Wednesday. Reason: Wamos, USA/Canada need the full manifest of the passengers. So, 7 Star received ticket payments and did not have detailed information on its passengers. We were asked to send our information to 3 different email addresses over 2 days. We did. It was obvious that the first 7 Star email address given to us, was not working or not being monitored. Several passengers had to step in to help this process. I heard someone say that he actually went to the 7 Star office to help them organize this list. There was even a suggestion to have the manifest stored in excel sheet with data captured using google forms. We did that, but 7 Star rejected it, reasons best known to them. The energy in the WhatsApp group was so discouraging & demoralizing because people were frustrated, impatient and did not trust 7 Star, some even said it was scam. Thankfully it was not, they did not have their act together at all!!

On Wednesday, got to the airport early among the first 20 (I think). We were supposed to be over 300 passengers. Route: Lagos > Toronto > Newark and then Newark > Toronto > Lagos. (Their flyer when this was advertised is the reverse, the flight was supposed to originate from Newark).

We got our luggage screened. And queued up. After about 30 minutes, the queue stopped moving. Then the queue kept getting longer and longer because they had only one staff checking the passengers information: passport, visa/PR, payment confirmation. We learnt that they were using an old manifest and not the updated one, they could not find some people’s names. Trust us naa, people who were at the back crowded around the guy and there was no queue again, it was now how smart, or how loud can you shout. We are forced to queue else, they wont attend to us. This time, we are in close contact, social distancing gone out-of-the-window. There was this lady, her voice was the loudest, yet she came from the back. Anyway…

It got to our turn, they checked our passports, PR cards and payment receipt and were are allowed to check in our bags. When we got to the gate, we were happy to see the WAMOS AIRPLANE! We are finally going to fly today. Little did I know that the journey has not even started. I knew that we were not going to leave at 4am because of the long queue outside and also because the check-in process was not organized. I already prepared my mind to be patient. It wasn’t long and they asked us to board. Families with children first thankfully. We went in, sat, sent messages to our loved ones…and waited……………….from 3am till 10:50am when our flight eventually left. Why?

Wamos refused to fly. 7 Star boarded some passengers whose names were not on the manifest they sent to US & Canada. US and Canada needed to okay everyone first before they leave. There was a lot of back and forth. Wamos also tried to get the passengers off the plane, the pilot told us their bags have to be removed. Wamos called some names, the people did not bulge. At a point we were told (through WhatsApp group) that there were some passengers who had paid, whose bags have been check-in and were not allowed in. The rest of us who had been waiting for more than 5 hours had to agitate for them to take us out of there. Eventually, those people who were left out were allowed on and we left.

We got to Madrid 4-5 hours later. The Madrid stop was supposed to be 1 hour, to refuel. But instead, we were told that we have to alight, identify our luggage and then go into the terminal. We did this in batches of 10s, then entered a bus that drove us to the terminal. Here we waited and Wamos issued another boarding pass to all of us MAD -> YYL. The wait here was 10 hours.

We boarded the flight and slept off for 7 out of 8.5 hours. Everything was smooth once we landed in Toronto and made our way to Calgary. We had to cancel our previously scheduled flight from Toronto to Calgary. We were lucky to get on the next available flight without waiting.

I tried as much as I can to sanitize. But I can tell you it was not 100%. We had our masks on the whole time. The longest we have ever worn a mask.
We are currently observing our 14 day isolation. I am grateful to God that we are healthy, and may it continue this way, in Jesus name!!

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 6:39pm On Jul 27, 2020
Hello everyone!

Someone is landing in Toronto on a chartered flight. Final destination is Calgary. Will it be problem if they enter a local flight from Toronto to Calgary?
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 7:38pm On Mar 13, 2019

Alright Ive thought of a good first project . A while ago I had to develop a simple plagiarism detector. It compares two (text) files and computes a similarity percentage. This was all done in Plain Java now I want us to create a web application with a front end where users can upload two text files themselves and the app generates the plagiarism score.

The source code for that is here 'github DOT com/preciousO/Plagiarism-Detector/tree/master/src' .

While I work on creating our environment , feel free to take a look at the code and let me know if you have any questions e.g how the code works , choice of data structures etc.. I've tried to ensure the code is optimal from an algorithmic POV but of course suggestions to improve are welcome( I believe one way would be to use some ML to ensure better results but I think for our purpose this works) .

NOTE : there are some simple text files and synonym file which I used as a test , feel free to update the synonyms file with more content and try out different text files. Again let me know if you find any bugs.

In order to keep this thread from being derailed , let me know if you want to join by sending an e-mail to 'expressentrycoding@gmailDOTcom'

There is a list of things I need to do to get us started ;
Create an architecture diagram for the app
Planning on hosting the code that computes the plagiarism score on an AWS lambda
Host the front facing web app on AWS
Set up a public repo where the project will be hosted and add Continuous Integration , Code quality check e.t.c
Set up an Agile board where we can track progress

Once all this is done , we'll divide what needs to be done based on areas of interest and pick our tech stack . Theres gonna be a lot of relatively simple front end stuff e.g home page, result page , error page so lots of learning opportunity. Theres also gonna be back end work to process the uploaded files.

Not sure when Ill be done my part as Ill mostly only be working on it weekends but Ill let you guys know when that is .



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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by oohunt: 9:41pm On Jan 26, 2019


Hello Guys,

It has been ages!!! Glad to see part 2!!!!!

I have not logged into Nairaland in a long time. I have been busy building my business. (Story for another day)

I saw some questions about whether I am in Canada and I wanted to answer that I am not. We visited ... according to my last comment but it has been a big debate between myself and all my family members on whether or not it is a great choice and the right time. The good thing is that I still have a year+ to pack my bags.

I wish I can promise to read all that has been going on but the truth is that I may not have the time to do it.

I hope this thread has helped people, and I wish everyone who has embarked on this courageous journey the best of luck.

May God bless you all!


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 12:16pm On Jan 31, 2018
Hey guys,

I am back again reading up but had to skip some pages cause of time.

So, we are back in Naija after the short landing. It was alright. I did not see all of Calgary to make an overall judgement. All I saw was white everywhere. The layering up helped a lot and I was not as cold as I thought I will be. We spent minimal time outdoors though.

We were able to get the basics done: SIN registration, health card registration, opened bank accounts with TD. Hubby tried the knowledge test for driver's license, failed the first time (because of one point-painful) but passed the second time. For me, I was not ready to fail o. I took vcole's advice - doing all knowledge and driving test when we return in the beautiful summer time grin.

Em, I decided to take my kids for a walk one day, being bundled inside the house for days. So, we layered up 4 layers! As we stepped outside, it was windy. It was -12 that day. I decided, let's go right, up the hill with the wind on our backs. We got to the top of the road, kids were sniffing, with emergency catarrh and I said, okay, let's turn back. grin grin grin that was when I understood the wind! grin It was biting!! My 7 year old enjoyed it!! It was exciting to her. But the younger one, hmmm, I had to carry her, put her on my shoulder so the wind won't blow on her face. This walk took a total of 6 minutes. grin I felt better when I got indoors. Will I do it again, sure!
What amazed me the most was days later, when the temperature increase to 6 degrees, we celebrated the warmth. Amazing how the body adjusts!

Hmm, I do not want to cause a big debate but, the cost of living when converted to naira is not a small money. I already knew that from all the knowledge I gathered from this thread, I was just not ready to calculate it. It all boils down to, is it worth it in the end? Yes, yes and yes!

Next step for me now is to find a good elementary school.

Please can you guys advice me on which areas to avoid in Calgary. Someone has mentioned NE. Does this mean the whole NE??

Thank you!

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:37am On Jan 31, 2018

I mistakenly booked myself for a training at fort saskatchewan some years ago too (Jjc thingz)..I was able to cancel it when i realised how far the town was from Calgary.

Ah, Ajibola!?? Wow!
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:35am On Jan 31, 2018
So cos of confusion yesterday, I found myself in Fort Saskatchewan (the story get as e be) I live at Edmonton

If only my Oga knew that his wife don turn indigene for Canada, he go dey respect me wella, lol.

Fort Saskatchewan is quite small and village looking. Looked like an industrialized area. So those not sure of where to go and like small towns, Fort is for u smiley

When I realized I was a long way from home, fear come dey catch me and I started imagining all sorts, like police pulling me over and arresting me for not having an ID (forgot my wallet at home) I imagined the vehicle breaking down on the highway with no help and me and my pikin will be stranded then Oga will finally catch me that I no Dey house, lol.

I wonder what town I’d find myself “mistakenly” soon.

Love your sense of adventure!

I want to be like you when I grow up! grin


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:18am On Jan 31, 2018
Thanks to the person that introduced freetones here.

I purchased a number and opted for unlimited calls to and from US/Canada.

Just today i had my first phone interview with a Canadian employer. It was successful but unfortunately the job is starting too close to my landing date next week. Am suppose to meet with the manager and suppose to receiving some further training prior to the start date.

Another employer just contacted me for interview. Hopefully this one would click.

For all those hoping to get a job before leaving... its very possible. Package your resume... apply via indeed, job bank etc

Am landing Ontario next week. Any landed Nairalander with connect to IT jobs... please hook a brother up

Well done!!!

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:08am On Jan 31, 2018

All this talk about racisms only makes me lol

I will state categorically that racism is the least of issues that will stand in the way of a success driven immigrant. I'm saying this as a black man who has lived in Canada for several years now.

Come here, develop and demonstrate your skills, become so good in what you do that you cannot be ignored. Doing this alone, you will find that you do not even have time for all the talk and propaganda from race hustlers (people who actually have an interest in fanning the embers of racism for their own benefit) you will also be far removed from whatever stifling concerns such things might present. Not saying it doesn't happen at all.

As has been previosuly stated by others, ethnic discrimination is just as rampant if not more, back in Nigeria.

Personally, ish like this doesn't even come up in my radar, I have lived in and visited several cities in this country and never had any negative experiences in this regard. I also have friends from all races, whites, asians, blacks, hispanics, arabs etc. For the most part Canada is a welcoming place.

This is the least of your worries if you know what you are here for.

Thank you for the positive words!


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:01am On Jan 31, 2018
Cold beautiful day in Calgary today.... I just love the seeming desolation in the landscape...

My! THAT is what I did not like about Calgary...well, the much of it that I saw during my short landing.

I love that city view, with modern buildings, high rises! Give me modern!!!!


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 1:12pm On Jan 17, 2018
Hey guys. I have a question.

Can someone adopt a child after receiving their PR cards?
Travel / Re: Canadian Express Entry/Federal Skilled Workers Program-Connect Here Part 3 by oohunt: 1:08pm On Jan 17, 2018
Hey guys.

I have a question.

Can someone adopt a child after receiving their PR cards?

Any one? Please?
Travel / Re: Canadian Express Entry/Federal Skilled Workers Program-Connect Here Part 3 by oohunt: 10:33pm On Jan 16, 2018
Hey guys.

I have a question.

Can someone adopt a child after receiving their PR cards?
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 6:27pm On Jan 04, 2018

I am considering setting up a day care business there. what do you think? I am in the process of incorporating a business name
Any heads up?

Hey @Ballerz

Are you still going ahead with this?

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:28am On Jan 04, 2018

Ouch I guess so then

Oh boi, sorry ma cheesy
Which aspect of IT are you into? What qualifications and certifications did you take along with you to Canada.

Well, I will say that I need some guidance as to which area of IT to focus on in Canada.

I currently run a consultancy that designs websites and provide digital marketing services in Lagos.

Certifications: ITIL, MCSA, OCA (Oracle).

Qualifications: BSc Computer Science, MSc Web Technologies and Security. Haven’t used my ITSec though.
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:00am On Jan 04, 2018

I am afraid you misunderstood oohunt
He is an IT professional but he never said he is currently working in Canada.

That’s correct.

I am also a she.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 1:51am On Jan 04, 2018

I thought you're an IT professional currently working in Canada?

Lol I am not o. What gave you the impression? I only just landed.
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 1:47am On Jan 04, 2018

Pls can you mail me the full details on this Akinquazim@gmail.com

All the details you need are here. You have to read up from the first page.
Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 6:07am On Jan 03, 2018

I'm also an IT Professional, Networking to be precise. I really don't have issues working in Naija but reading stuffs on this section makes me twice either to go or remain here. What necessary certifications do you think I would need to come to Canada, thanks

Can someone help with this question please?

In my opinion, you have to do your research, find out which jobs are being advertised and where you can fit in. But it will also help to get some guidance from current IT professionals in Canada. I was going to ask the same question. It has been discussed in the beginning but that was in the first 30 pages or so and there were no specifics.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 11:14pm On Jan 01, 2018
Welcome Oohunt! Happy New Year Family!

Thank you @Nogen and Happy New Year to you too.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 9:50am On Jan 01, 2018
@oohunt, I've been meaning to mention you on here as it's been a while you posted. Welcome to Calgary in advance. As advised Burlington coat factory. Get thermal wear for yourself and the kids. So layer up. Like a singlet, thermals, shirt, sweater then jacket with a hat. Thermals or fleece lined tights, pants and fuzzy socks then winter boots. This week has been cold in Calgary and as salford1 says when you land it'll be warmer but iunno if it'll be as warm for you. Lol!

Thank you @vcole, @salford & @drhopeful.

I got some good winter boots and jackets from Burlington. Very helpful info thank you. Also went to Costco and Walmart but Burlington had the best. For thick sweaters, I got good ones for the kids in Costco. Then in Walmart for myself.

We have now landed! Flight took 4:30 hours from Houston. The landing experience is just like what have been discussed here: after the first customs queue, we picked up our bags and was directed to secondary inspection area. After about 25 mins they attended to us. And they said welcome to Canada! We are now Landed!!!

We had our first contact with the -32 degrees when we headed for the car. Our host was there to pick us up. Ha ha ha, rude shock!! @vcole, we had only 3 layers. Now I know. I must get thermal wear for myself. Everyone had one except me. And I thought UK was cold! No one will find me outside in this type of cold. Lol.

Let me deal with the cold and dryness first. I will be back to update you guys on other stuff. I am still jet lagged. It is almost 2am and sleep has vanished from my eyes.

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 1:54pm On Dec 30, 2017
Hey guys.

The day has finally come. Decided to make a soft landing on the 1st of Jan and then plan for the migration next year.
I have not been to the thread for a long time so I have a lot to read up. So forgive me if I am repeating this.

So weather.com says Calgary is currently -25. Hmm. I am bracing myself mentally. But men, it is not funny o. I am currently in Houston (it IS cold at 8 degrees) and will like to at least get some warm clothing for my girls (7 & 2). I know some people have suggested getting warm clothing in Canada but with this kind of extreme weather, we cannot enter Canada anyhow.

Your suggestions on what and how many layers to buy and where to buy them will be much appreciated!


Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 6:03pm On Oct 21, 2017
COPIED. This may help someone.

"josh's Post" *** A MUST READ for ALL APPLICANTS ****

« on: November 23, 2009, 10:49:35 am »

Dear Friends,

The following is a copy-paste of only 1 of 3 posts* by user 'josh'. It is a Must Read by all of us. As the great guy is busy now-a-days and his 'dil se' write-up might go into oblivion; Thus, I'm taking the liberty of reproducing it here :

*For the original click:http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/this-is-how-you-succeed-in-canada-t29170.0.html

This is how you succeed in Canada
November 17, 2009, 11:09:04 am  
Author:  josh

Hear is my story...  take the time to read it, if nothing you might at least save a few pennies and a couple of sleepless nights.

I have been a silent viewer on this forum, I have read a lot of arguments and I appreciate the zeal of most people. The positive approach some people have displayed in spite of all the negative and discouraging information is really inspiring.

I have been in Canada for over 25 months now, migrated from India, to quickly answer some of the biting questions in your head....

1,  Am I doing well---Yes I am, maybe not as good as I would have liked it but I am happy.
2,  Was I doing well back in India--- Very well.
3,  Am I happy to have made the switch----No doubt about that.
4,  Did I have to struggle and go through hard times----- Very very hard times, I've had to hang on by my tooth and claws.
5,  Would I do it again---Damn sure I would.

6,  Would I go about it in the same way that I did----NO, This post is to help you guys avoid the same mistake that I made and to give something back to people like me 25 months ago, I would have NEVER been able to do it without the help of many good hearted people, God bless em. 

So here is my story......

But before that I just want to mention that I have met a lot of immigrants, some who have done well some not so well and others worse. The common line among all the immigrants were certain qualifications and these are a must according to me and my experience if you have to succeed, if you don't have these qualifications then you will be putting yourself in deep trouble.

At the risk of sounding dreadfully dull and at a horrible effort at instigating motivation here are the qualification you need to have:

a,   Determination... If you are not absolutely determined its a waste of time.
b,   Perseverance...The heart to go on in spite of all odds, never failing to loose the strength to take another step, NEVER NEVER give up, its your life and you cant give up on it.
c,   Hard work....Try to be the best in whatever you do, don't work hard because you have to or because you are being watched just work hard coz you WANT to. Even if you are polishing shoes and if you are the best in doing that you will achieve glory someday. NOT BORN TO BE A MEDIOCRE attitude.
d,   Good Heart.... A good heart to help people in need, may not just be financially (if that is not possible) but a kind word, a passionate hug, an encouraging line to any fellow in need. A genuine good wish and prayer from someone thankful can even move the Heart of GOD.

So, my story then, My God, its just starting, even I am tired already. I'll make it short.

Got my visa after a long and painful wait...Quit our jobs, my wife and me (first mistake, will explain later) scooped up all our savings, got our children out of school with appropriate planning so that they don't miss out a year. Did our lil research, said our prayers and got on the plane. Landed in Vancouver, some website told us that this was the worlds best place to live and raise a family (mistake number two). Checked into the hotel and began house hunting, looked at all the nice neighbourhoods and selected a house based on our budget (third mistake) so far so good, we thought. Put our kids to school and began the mammoth task of job hunting ( 25-30 days and 2000 dollars down).

Me wife and me are well qualified and based on our experiences we made absolutely wonderful resumes and started applying ( fourth mistake). Amazing responses, calls every day but that was that, stopped at calls after realising we don't have any Canadian qualification or experience. We were not too worried initially but as time passed it started to get a little uncomfortable( down by 3 months and 4000 dollars). We then started trying to get help and advise from the locals, mixed responses, very conflicting as everyone were from different circumstances. We then had to downgrade our resumes (as one of the refusal feedback was that we were over qualified) and start applying, still luck eluded us. Every dollar spent was like fire in the belly growing hotter. Five-six months later we were desperate and ready to take any job that was available to us. A month later, my wife got a job and few weeks later it was my turn to get lucky to get a job.

These were not nearly ideal jobs that we were hoping for but some income was better than nothing. It killed me to see my wife doing data entry who was working for ICICI bank back in India and managing a whole branch and had won many awards for being the best run branch , just typing away 8 hours a day. I never really had the courage to ask how she felt seeing me flip burgers when I had 120 employees working for me at Hewlett Packard back in India.

Though both of us were earning still we were not able to make enough money to stop digging away from our savings. The house rent, bills, travel to & fro to work, food and the most expensive of the lot, child minders for our kids, to pick them up from school and take care until my wife gets back home. I was working over time, nearly 12 hours a day but could not sustain ourselves, we then switched our plan and I took up night shift and weekends while my wife worked in the day, I would wake up cook and get the kids back home and put them in front of the telly and pass out on the couch. I was ready to leave for work and would be waiting at the door to rush out to get the train, sometimes I must admit, with wet eyes while walking to the train station.At all time, I tried real hard to put a brave face for my wife and my two little angels, one kiss at the door everyday was all the interaction I had with my wife. That and kisses from my two little angels is what kept me going.

Even though we had figured out a way to save the child minders costs we were just making enough to live a very limited life. My children deserved more time from us, at least from one of us. I dint want them to grow up without that. I forced my wife to work only part time, moved to a smaller house, took up work for 12 hours every night, 6 days a week. I could not miss a single days work, no work no money. Life seemed a little better for a while, at least for my wife and kids.

When all seemed in control ( at least better than a few months ago ) another blow (forgive me for saying that but that's what it seemed like at that time), I was hardly with my wife a few times since we started working and she was pregnant for the second time ( we had twins the first time)  in spite of all the caution we had taken. The irony was, we had to try for almost a year the first time around to get pregnant.  If that was not all, it was twins AGAIN. The odds of that happening, twins twice, was 10 million to one or so I was told. This was about the time when I could sense my wife giving up. I could not imagine how we could afford the expenses of additional two babies in our present circumstances.

To cut it short, we had to go through more hardships, we had to move again and again until we were in what one would call a single room apartment.

Was this what we left everything and came here? Was this the life in Canada?
How could we have been so wrong in our assessment?
Are we losers and should go back home crawling like one?

BUT WAIT NO, I thought,

If I we had the luck of having two twins which is very very rare then we surely should be blessed. And I will not let all the sacrifices my family and I have made go for a waste, I did not want my kids to see their father give up when I have always told them never to give up. I was even more determined to move on.

Things turned around, of all the mistakes that I made I had done one thing right, I had really put in my best at work, nobody could do stuff in the kitchen like I could. For most people out there this was just a job, for me it was food in my kids bellies and the last straw of hope in keeping my dreams alive.

I got so many appreciations and management started noticing me, My work was perfect no matter there was someone watching over me or not. As a matter of fact I used to perform even better when I was not supervised. the management quickly saw this and moved the night shift supervisor to another branch to save costs. There was no impact on the business even though I was all alone in the kitchen all night. It was barely any time I was made a supervisor and I had enough money now and did not have to work 12 hours and 6 days. But I did, as my wife had stopped working coz of her pregnancy, we took this opportunity to get her to study and get some certifications in her line of work which were recognised in Canada. She came out with flying colours as she was twice as smart than any certification she sat for. She scored 100% in every damn thing.

We had two healthy little angels again, within four months she started applying with the Canadian certifications and she got a decent job, within a very short time her employers realised her potential and moved her to a different role with more responsibilities and more salary as well.

She did not eat for two days until I agreed to quit my job and stay home with my kids and take up some kind of studying myself. The first few days after I quit I slept for 15 hours every day,  it seemed like heaven as I had not had so much sleep in many months. I then started studying at home and taking care of the babies while my wife worked. She was getting paid more than what we had earned collectively so it was fine.

I finished a few certifications and also got decent job. We both feel that we can grow in the companies that we are currently in because of our experience and knowledge and also the effort we have put in to get so far.

We have now moved a good two bed apartment and got ourselves a second-had Ford Mondeo, and now we can see the light at the end of the tunnel and any hope of realising our dreams.

Now let me talk about the mistakes I think I made and what I would have done differently if I had to do this all over again.

1st Mistake -,   Quitting both our jobs. My wife was working for an Indian Company( ICICI) but I was working for a global company (HEWLETT PACKARD). I should have tried to get a internal transfer, Global companies do hire from within. I agree that it would not have been easy but I am sure not as difficult as what I went through. I might have had to go down several levels and wait for maybe a year or two which is still a worthwhile thing to do.

If that was absolutely not possible I would  then quit my job leave my wife and kids behind and go to Canada myself.

2, Mistake -   Trying to settle down with out first getting a job. If I am alone I can get a temporary accommodation and be more flexible to move where ever there is opportunity, even move to different cities, with family it is not possible. this will also keep my costs very very low.

3,Mistake -   Unless you related to tourism and hospitality industry don't go to Vancouver. Calgary is good for people in oil industry but as a 
general rule of thumb there are much more jobs in Toronto that any other place. There are many immigrants there , right, but this is not entirely bad as the employers in Toronto are more used to the Immigrants and are less biased compared to other places. 
4, Mistake -   I expected to get a great job, like the one I had back in India right away. This does not happen with 99% of the people. You cant just pick up from where you left unless you have some kind of Canadian qualification or internally transferred from within your company. 

As soon as you land get yourself some/any job that you can land yourself in and ensure that your monthly expenditure is less that what you earn. Yes you might have to compromise a great deal on where you live and stuff. Make sure you spend as little money as possible from your savings. Immediately get into some kind of course/certification in your line that is recognised in Canada, use your savings for that. Don't waste even one day.

Make sure once you have secured some certifications and you are looking for a job that is in your line of work. You would already have a job, however bad but a job nevertheless. All your focus should be to get a job in your line of work and not towards getting a little more money, this is because if you get to do something in your line of work you will naturally do well.

Once you have set your foot in and fairly confident its time to get your wife..... NOT KIDS, just wife. I know it can be very difficult to leave kids behind but you will have to make some sacrifices to ensure that you do it the right way.

Now that your wife is there, just get her to do some part time work focus entirely on getting Canadian qualification in her line of work.

Always remember there will be totally unexpected things that will come up ( my wife's pregnancy for example ) and make sure you have put away some money for emergencies, however little, something is better than nothing.

Only get a permanent family home when you and your wife are working, in your respective line of work and the get your kids. Things would have been a lot easier if I had done it this way rather than the way I adopted.


Please feel free to ask me any questions that may crop up, I wish this was helpful and God bless you all.

Thanks for sharing this here. I remember reading this story somewhere and was terrified. That was one of the reasons I started this thread. There is nothing as good as researching and planning ahead. Even better, here on nairaland, we have the luxury of contacting people (fellow country members) who's had first hand experience. At least, when you are making the move, you know what to prepare for, plan ahead, not get into trouble and have short cuts.

On this note, I will like to appreciate every single one of you, who have opened your heart to share your personal experiences. You will never know the number of people (families) you have encouraged, improved their lives, guided to make the correct decision.
May God shower his abundant blessings on you and open up doors of favour for you in Canada!

May Canada be green for us as we gain wisdom!!

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Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 8:07am On Oct 10, 2017
@oohunt please land before your medicals expires. Otherwise your copr would become invalid. You would not have the option of repeating your medicals. That option only applied to the fsw pre-express entry era when often times applications were still being processed while medicals expired.

Congrats freeradical

Good job glitteringstar!

@ballerz you wan use laugh kill me @gender writing. cheesy

Travel / Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by oohunt: 2:18pm On Oct 07, 2017

I have met a couple who used this route and these folks are not a nuisance. They are just looking for better opportunities. No be everybody fit go the EE route. Some can never pass the IELTS or cannot even near WES. Some don even buy their own house, drive Benz 2017 - Husband and wife and living comfortably well.
Another (Ghanian) runs an African shop. The guy can market choi.... "If you cook my Iru" He owns his 2,000 sqm shop in Toronto fully paid. House checked. He is planning to open another store in Brampton. No be one way enter the market. And since the country is passionate and accommodating to all... They cannot try this with Mama Charlie country, they will throw you back to the wolves and sharks.
This route is for the lion-wolf-iwin hearted. It is a 50 - 50 Chance. They are risking it all like a blackjack game.

I understand this and to be honest, we are all doing the same this just the way they are doing it is different. This is where the concern comes in. But then another Youtube video I watched stated how the men had bundles of cash, more than one mobile phones, gadgets, and were well dressed. Which also tells a lot about them.

Most of all, my heart goes out to the children. Canada is in for a huge change!!! Population growth, diversity, more businesses ..more!

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