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Olugbenger: yeah,get a BIBLE!

an assertion cannot prove itself, the bible cannot prove itself

Olugbenger: Then how do u explain the case of extremely intelligent humans who know of salients facts and proofs contradicting the existence of GOD but still choose to believe in HIM?or do u guys speak against the mind of billions of people all over the world who still hold their opinion affirmative?
Humans make these facts/points through their own understanding and are prone to errors....shortcomings.
ur point of the non existence of GOD(s) is only valid if it can be supported with DIVINE facts just like HIS existence(the truth) is backed with...
Remember LOGIC is above human reasoning!

most people believe in God because most people are as brainwashed as you are.

you saying

Olugbenger: ur point of the non existence of GOD(s) is only valid if it can be supported with DIVINE facts just like HIS existence(the truth) is backed with...
Remember LOGIC is above human reasoning!

are you saying that it is only God that can prove his own non existence?

how does that sound like logic to you.

JIL: Not the least surprised. The bible talked about this.

people used those verses some 1000 years ago, people will still use them some 1000 years to come, no difference

ekenedegreat: dis is satan himself decieving pple. God forbid!!

how do you know satan can type? i actually think you are the devil

Olugbenger: logicboy...
I read through your posts...
You are someone who claims or think about yourself as being intelligent or clever than others....
you should know this....with all clear facts....
YOU are actually very dumb for not believing in the existence of GOD!

actually, you are dumber for believing in God

kmcutez: Ok. That means we did not come from him then. Even when kids misbehave, the parents are usually blamed for not raising them properly.

yes but the xtians always protect their God, their philosophy is contradictory

Logicboy03: Calm down......I dont believe in abiogenesis and neither do I believe in god.


What I do know is that the proces must support evolution

why are you guys debating abiogenesis.

Dont get it wrong, abiogenesis is different from chemical evolution.

chemical evolution is life from non life, abiogenesis is life from inanimate matter, like life from decaying organic matter

abiogenesis has been proved wrong by pasturization, chemical evolution has not been TOTALLY proved right or wrong so it is a logical possibility for the evolution of life

Logicboy03: The art of woo woo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=830dAt8Q4sA

WLC is a complete perv. He even claims that if some evidence proves xtianity wrong, he will hang on to that imaginary friend of his called holy spirit. the guy is disgusting

rhymz: Like seriously, you of all people believes that there actually existed a Paul that was a Jesus fellow Hunter until he him self was converted by Jesus. You believe that crap? Like seriously you do believe such a confused person realy existed?
Unless you have not taken time to study the so-called Pauline epistles to realize those actually are works of some unknown religious writer with very evident hellenistic influence. If you observe, the epistles are in total contrast with the so-called Canonical Gospels, they discuss mostly pagan concepts and philosophies. Whence come the concept of a dying God whose death and ressurection brings atonement of sin to followers. These concepts exist way before christianity started. That is mostly what the so-called epistles discussed. It obvious the writer did not intend for such theology and concept be used for some christ Jesus as it is apparent the writer did not know who the christian Jesus is or was. It is highly probable that the epistles were originally books of some other religious order or the writer deliberately produced those epistles to rival the jewish religious order through stealing their concepts and infusing their own prevailing religious concept at the time. Paul is just a pabrication like the Jesus character, all unproveable mythological hogwash.

you are good

ckkris: The US Constitution was made secular in order accommadate freedom of speech and worship, especially to accommodate people like Logicboy, Ifeness, etc. You'll all agree that atheist nations imprison and kill anyone that's theist.

atheist nations give freedom of worship

poopli: can i join?

yes then

youngchopper: bro if ur from nigeria try and visit benin. Seeing is believing. I rest ma case

i have visited them to confirm before, nothing spectacular.

martinseme: when two servants of the same master meets themselves they surely would recognize themselves, mr ooman i though you call your self and an atheist why do you now try to defend mr pagan 9ja since you abhor worship,,,my message of salvation also applies to you,,,repent now and worship only GOD WHO MADE YOU IN HIS OWN IMAGE AND LIKENESS,,,,do so while you can

really.....does that still work, does that still scare people. You think that after writing that, i will fall on my knees and start praying, think again. God is seeking to exist in you because he doesnt have a physical or spiritual existence, GOD IS A PARASITE.

I retain that people have the right to worship anything they want to worship

Logicboy03: If the evidence comes out, I will believe.



What Annoys me is that Deepsight and Anony will never agree that their God is an impossiblity which they believe in without evidence.


Anony's God- spaceless, timeless, matterless- a scientific impossiblity. He keeps failing to show how he kn ow htese things about God.


Deepsight's God- creates the world from nothing and then f4cks off

what is science but to see first and then believe

ckkris: I should know, not you. I don't even bother about all the trash a lot of people think is religion. If the Holy Bible is not the most powerful book on earth, why then are its antagonisers so worried. The satanist Voltaire declaired that in 100 years the Bible would become irrelevant, but within that 100 years his house was converted to a Bible House.

Voltaire's problem is his problem, not mine. Atheists speak mostly against xtianity and Islam because they both have the highest number of converts, thereby keeping people in delusional slavery, hence the need to speak out.

youngchopper: op do u believe dat satan do exist? Even native doctors knows dat there is God. There are powers on earth. If u search deep in u. U will knw dat there is God and christianity is real. Av u heard about blood money? In ur dictionary does it exist?

those who claim to do blood money kill people and then sell their body parts to hospitals in malaysia etc, no spiritual implications. the same way native doctors believe in devils is the same way you believe in Gods without proofs, none of them exists.

Logicboy03: Mind you, I dont believe in any god.

What I have a problem with is anyone claiming to know how first life came about especially theists with their Gods or atheists with some abiogenesis woo woo.

Your chemical evolution is a possiblity...aliens could have put the chemicals and the catalysts for life on earth.....it could have been spontaneous.......all of these are possiblities hat need evidence before I believe they happened

I just told you abiogenesis is a wrong conception, we know this now but the philosophies behind chemical evolution and not the proofs yet, confirms it possibility. Further research will prove this.

Logicboy03: To be honest, DeepSight's deism makes more sense than your life from nothing.


We dont know how the first life came but we know that life came from life. To say life came from nothing or some inanimate matter you dont know is fallacious without proof.


Unfortuantely Deepsight's God must be designed with complexity more complex than the complex design that we are made of. Which there is no evidence for




Or did I get your position on first life wrong

oh, logic boy, you dont want to do this, davidylan, deepsight, etc only ended up with abuses and never a single premise of rebuff when i presented it to them because they can't understand it.

Are you sure you are up to this?

abiogenesis is wrong, but chemical evolution is never wrong.

Logicboy03: Dont fall for it Deepsight! Anony knows an impending slaughter when he sees one.


He wants to hamper your ability to question his failed notions on God and love and moral authority.


Please read;

https://www.nairaland.com/1202716/cowardice-christianity-re-cowardice-atheism

deepsight has a very crude knowledge of God. People are not deists anymore this days but deepsight hung on to the concept thinking life from non life is impossible.

ckkris: No need to defend them Jews, when over 100 million Arabs can't even raise a dogs whimper against 5 million Jews, they can surely trounce their enemies. Another evidence that the Bible is 100% accurate.

the bible is never 40% accurate, it contradicts itself in so many parts.

SimonAndal: And seriously, you guys should go to bed. You're seriously creeping me out. Y'all vamps or som'n?

dont worry, we wont eat ya

striky,get engaged in "Faith: What It Means To An Unprovable concept of God for the religious."

get engaged in "Faith: What It Means To An Unprovable concept of God for the religious."

Faith according Heb 11 v 1 is the confident assurance of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen.

Now, striky, i wrote you a phrase you havent been able to refute, FAITH IS NOT MATH, MATH IS NOT FAITH. Science never believes in anything by faith but by math. Even though we don't see somethings yet, things like energy, protons, baryons etc, we can work them out, we can quantify them, so we believe they exist, untill we can observe otherwise.

(first premise)On the contrary, believe in God is never irrefutably quantifiable or is God observable. The only evidence for God has always been design, but design is not enough for a person to claim full right over a product, the claimer has to have full patent over it that will serve as the EVIDENCE of ownership. The design we see in nature can be perfectly explained by evolution and as also by creation BUT Evolution has mathematical proves (the full patent), creation only has faith (claims).

(second premise)Since the definition of faith is CONFIDENCE ASSURANCE AND EVIDENCE, which is lacking in proving the existence of a God, Faith has therefore self-destruct, it has self-disproved the existence of any God. According to the definition of faith, there must be CONFIDENTLY ASSURED EVIDENCES, WHICH IS LACKING IN religion, Christianity. Therefore, i conclude that the definition of faith has helped disproved the existence of God, what do you think?

striktlymi: My call?? Nah...you are d boss!

ok, i will engage you in a new thread, watch out and be prepared

never expected anything better from xtianity or islam anyway

striktlymi: Right back at you!

still waiting, its your call

Ortarico: I agree it was a hallucinatory experience, he heard his voice directly and in clarity (Act 9:4 &5) and submitted himself. Formerly he thought he was helping GOD as a religious fanatics and got converted. If you were him, you would have wanted him to show himself in person. Stiff hearted generation, you're just like your ancestors (Acts 7:51)!

do you agree or disagree, get your facts straight

the Flying Spagetti be praised now and forevermore. Amen