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DONT start this mundane topic again.

according to the transcript which i downloaded, the evolutionists AND ATHEISTS won. GREAT NEWS

actually, people get money from killing other people by selling their body parts to malaysians and brazillians instead of donating their own parts. there is no spiritual implications at all

christemmbassey: if you can't diftiate btween christemmbassey from christembassy is it the OP you will understand? IN CHRIST IS HID ALL THE TREASURES OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE. Just accept Jesus and give ya life a meaning.

u r the dumbest a$$hole in history

Segeggs: If @logicboy doesnt believe in a god,why then does he carry atheism on his head?simple,he serves d god of atheism.if u dont believe in a god,leave those dat believe alone and stop luring them to your side

there is nothing like "god of atheism", that is what atheism means in the first place, the believe that there is no God. too much illiterates on nairaland.

Sicozone: You claim there is no God because you dont see him? Why not stop breathing cos u can't see the air!!!......i really pity you atheists,ur foolishness will only lead you to where u never believed existed,God even said it in his word,he said my People die because of lack of Ignorance......Mehn,u guyz go get a life

solidified air can be seen and has been seen, just because you dont know something doesnt mean it hasnt been worked out

Logicboy03: Wrong! I he had at least 3 ex christians that have left their faith because of arguments here. They replied me on threads long ago. However one example is on the logicboy effect thread. Will look for it.

great

tobechi74: atheist need theist. Theist need atheist. Its mutual

you cant be so sure of that. i disagree with the "need" word used

Miss Ope: Seriously... Logic boy and the likes... Deserve being hanged to death....

are you a Jew?

lepasharon: not surprised,he is oyinbo what do you expect

do you mean that only oyinbo have the sense to think and reason that there is no God? well think again.

travelxpat: Hmmm for you to know that God exists,you will be dumb for 3 weeks in real illness that will defile solutions.bedridden for 3 weeks and untill you agree in your heart within the 3 the weeks of your forth coming tribulations and agony that God exists then you will be free .you can start the count from next week monday,ensure you enjoy yourself to the fullest,it might be your last or the beginning of your discipleship class in a bible believing church.

you just expressed how grisly your God is

christemmbassey: @ all atheists. You guys wanted logic and sense knowledge and the Op gave it to you, why complain? Emptiness and foolishness of atheists reiigion exposed.

if what the OP posted sound sensible to you, then you are really truly senseless. stop bearing christembassy, pastor chris will never think the way you do.

thehomer: No, I'm asking if he agrees with that assessment. So far, he has tried to evade responding.



Firstly, the God under consideration is the God of the Bible.
God is a moral agent because he supposed to be sapient, he is supposed to care about humans and he can do something to affect humans.

I disagree, the God of the bible CANNOT be a decider of morality and a judge of goodness because HE IS NOT A DISINTERESTED ARBITRATOR

striktlymi: Good evening ooman,

I guess you mistake my object for arguing whenever I decide to engage in it. I am not really concerned about 'winning' an argument and I am really less concerned if I or my opponent is being 'wooped'. However, I prefer to see a situation where two adults try to reason out a topic and try to understand each others point of view.

Opening a thread just for us to exhibit our ability or inability to argue appropriately sounds like a very fruitless venture to me. However, if a thread seeks to understand a point of view then I might just oblige you.

Thank you!

You are just right. debating a matter should not be based on win/lose but finding the truth of a matter. we must all learn to be TRUE SEEKERS OF TRUTH.

Get it on then.

@ OP very true

ekenedegreat: op, u 4got 2 add d fact dat... Atheists re likely 2 end up in hell, If care is not taken.

actually, hell is just a place in children's tales. It doesnt have an actual existence and if it does exist, then hell will be the liveliest place to spend eternity, with strippers and musicians in it, am sure you will agree with that. Heaven will be so boring

akin emma: mr man,can you prove your acclaimed evolutionary theory for us?You claim man evolved from monkey but if someone call you a monkey how will you feel?if you feel sad,then it means you are denying who you are.Just to let you know,i am wonderfully and fearfully made in the image of God.Take it or leave it.One day you will stand before the God you are denying his existence now and you will curse the day you decided to be an atheist.Repent before it is too late.

Damn it. EVOLUTION NEVER CLAIMED MAN EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS. dont be silly, we are all modern animals ok, our ancestors diverged some 2mya. Get some education before you spit rubbish out on the internet.

Micro evolution is observed daily, the differentiation into black and white people is one prove. and if you want to talk, get either deepsight, davidylan or chukkynwob down ok?

striktlymi: #Always shying away from the truth.

you say am shying away from the truth when all am doing is preventing another fruitless debate. If you think you want to get it on, open a thread, call me in and i shall deal with you mercilessly.

and mind you, one can observe MICRO EVOLUTION

This write up is as dumb as it is silly with only one aim in mind, TO MAKE EVOLUTION LOOK AS STU.PID AS THE GOD CONCEPT IS. The writer and the poster has no sense of what evolution is all about, they are already flawed in their creation account and are seeking to flaw the theory of evolution too.

Everything written here has been undoubtedly produced by a non thinking worshiper of a kind of God who thinks that Faith is the same as Maths. There is a difference between being able to calculate something you cannot see and only having faith that something you cannot see exist.

All atheist and evolutionists should ignore this already hackneyed obsolete write-up. It heads no where.

Just a thing to think about
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JUST AS THERE IS NO COLD BUT ABSENCE OF HEAT

NO DEATH BUT ABSENCE OF LIFE

SO, NO EVIL BUT ABSENCE OF GOD

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This write up is as dumb as it is silly with only one aim in mind, TO MAKE EVOLUTION LOOK AS STU.PID AS THE GOD CONCEPT IS. The writer and the poster has no sense of what evolution is all about, they are already flawed in their creation account and are seeking to flaw the theory of evolution too.

Everything written here has been undoubtedly produced by a non thinking worshiper of a kind of God who thinks that Faith is the same as Maths. There is a difference between being able to calculate something you cannot see and only having faith that something you cannot see exist.

All atheist and evolutionists should ignore this already hackneyed obsolete write-up. It heads no where.

Just a thing to think about
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JUST AS THERE IS NO COLD BUT ABSENCE OF HEAT

NO DEATH BUT ABSENCE OF LIFE

SO, NO EVIL BUT ABSENCE OF GOD

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kinda agree with ya

ayswags: and how is it too late

you will not even have the consciousness to know whether its late or not. Death is the end of everything

ayobase: It will be DISASTROUSLY too late for you....my chance is 50-50 and urs is 100-0!

I'm a better player buddy!

Go listen or read urself again, your post is based on assumption, no one SIMPLE fact!

Jesus Christ was around some years back, and he was seen going into heaven......abi u think sey Bible na AROKO!

"I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father, except through me"

Human beings, we found it very hard to be under submission...always looking for reasons to justify acts!

whatever that means but if it means the bible is lying, then yes

Neddivine: the poster is a hardened God hating,God rejecting satanist who has openly declared himself in so many threads and railed unimaginable grievous curses against the Most High God.Satanists make compulsory blood sacrifices,drink human blood to acquire satanic powers and donate human beings thru road accidents and other means to kingdoms of darkness.Now,how can such be THE BEST PEOPLE TO EVER EXIST.

I AM NOT A SATANIST.

I AM ONLY FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT OF PEOPLE TO BE SATANISTS.

There is nothing wrong with satanism. it is just a cult like the xtian or muslim cult, what i dont understand is why the illuminati, freemasons etc have to be secret when xtians and muslims are overt.

everyone has the right to worship whatever and whomever as long as they dont impose their religion into science and government.

kpozite: Don't preach atheism to Nigerians because we will not listen to you.
We want someone to attribute things to like what we do not understand. Why stress yourself to know more about when you can say ''God is wonderful'' and go on?
We don't want to work harder to succed, we pray and wait upon God.

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With the present economic situation in the country, many live on the hope that one day God will change their fortune.
In as much as atheism will solve some of the problems we have in this country, Atheism requires a high level of intellectual activity which Nigerian will not want to engage in (not because of inability to do so though). That is why I quite agree with Nos 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9.

It is for this stupi.dity that we preach atheism, God cannot help you build your country. dont be silly.

that is the power of evolution and not some God somewhere

What is an Atheist?

An atheist is a person who does not believe that any gods exist.

Why don't you believe in God?

There is simply no more evidence for Jehovah than there is for Zeus. Christians find no reason to believe that Zeus exists, so they do not believe in him. For the same reason, I do not believe in Jehova. God himself is more than welcome to share an honest conversation with me. Until he does, I have no reason to trust that anyone is a reliable spokesman for any god.

Don't you want to go to heaven?

I do not believe there is a heaven. But even if a real heaven did exist, and for some reason a god chose who went and who didn't, if that god is a good and noble being he will judge me for my value as a human being, and not for my belief in him.

How can you turn your back on true happiness?

I cannot imagine being happier than I have been already. I live a very fulfilling life, and am filled with an abiding love of being and thinking. I find love, reason and a practical, humble approach to life to be more than enough for me.

How can you trust sinful humans, ignoring all the good god does?

It offends me that an invisible god is given credit for every good thing that happens in the world, while every evil is blamed on humanity. There is much evil in the world that is not the fault of human beings, such as ignorance and disease and droughts, and most of the things that are good are entirely the product of human love, effort or genius, such as friendship and vaccines and even irrigation pipes.

Not all human beings are evil. We all possess great potential for good. Yet a god could do so much good in the world that is not being done, such as warning innocent children when to stay away from danger, or preventing too many people from being born, or turning all the weapons in the world into flowers. Surely a loving god would do these things, and more, just as any wise and compassionate human being would if they had the means.

And so, when a doctor saves someone's life, we truly owe our thanks to the doctor, and the society that made her education possible. It is insulting to both when a god is thanked for something that he could have done himself but didn't. If a loving god really existed, we would not need doctors in the first place.

If there is no god, then where do you think the universe came from?

I do not even know if the universe had a beginning, much less what may have started it. No one knows. Inventing a god to do the creating only leaves open the question of where that god came from.

So why be moral?

I dislike the kind of people who hurt me or lie to me or who are insincere or inconsiderate. Thus, if I were to be like such people, I could not escape disliking myself. I could never do something that would make me the sort of person I hate, because I could never be truly happy if I hated myself, no matter how hard I tried to rationalize what I have done. But this also means that to truly like myself, and thus to be truly happy, I must be the sort of person I really like, and I like people who are honest and principled and who care about others. So I strive to be like the sort of person I see to be good. I have also found that virtue earns stronger and fonder friendships, and secures the trust of my neighbors, and both of these things are essential to living a good, full life.

What do you think happens when you die?

I see that the brain is what gives me existence, and I depend on its health for my ability to think and survive. When the brain dies, I die, and when the brain ceases to exist, so do I. I do not find this to be sad. We all enjoy everything we experience, even when it doesn't last. I love life deeply, and as death would end my experience of living and loving I do not want to die. But I do not fear death, because there is no reason to fear the end of fear itself.

What about all the people who experience god?

There are people in the world who experience the essence of Buddha, who remember past lives, who truly feel the power of ritual magic in their lives, or who walk with the spirits of their ancestors. There are so many different experiences I do not think it is wise to arbitrarily assume that any one of them is truer than another.

I have looked all over the world, and I see Buddhists are mostly in Asia, Hindus mostly in India, Muslims mostly in the Middle East, and Christians mostly in the West. The idea of god, and all the assumptions of our respective religions, are taught to us as children. That Americans are mostly Christian is more likely the result of Christianity being taught there, and not the result of that religion actually being true or superior to any other.

Haven't Christian values done much good in the world?

I know that people have done much good in the world, whether they were Christians like Martin Luther King Jr., or Hindus like Gandhi, or atheists like Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Honesty and compassion are good values anywhere. They are not unique to Christianity.

So what do you believe in?

I believe in many things. I believe in the potential of humanity, in the power of reason, in the comfort of love, and in the value of truth. I also believe in the beauty and joy of human experience, and the nearly unlimited power of the human will to endure almost any hardship or solve almost any problem.

I believe that faith can mislead people into falsehood, and that we need reason and doubt as necessary checks against our capacity for error. I believe that we need to allow our fellow human beings to make choices for themselves and to live the life they wish to, in mutual peace and goodwill.

I believe that political negotiation and compromise -- fuelled by an honest measure of respect for different opinions, beliefs and lifestyles -- is the only way the world will find universal peace and goodwill, and that using the scientific method is the only way the world can arrive at an agreement on the truth about anything.

I believe that it is better to preach the gospel of "be good to your fellow man, and love each other as life itself," than to preach the gospel of "believe in our religion or be damned." For it is better to be good to each other and to build on what we all agree to be true, than to insist that we all think alike.



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We need humanity more than religion

it doesnt matter what type of marriage any god wants, what matters is what kind of marriage you wish for

OLAADEGBU: This thread is to highlight how science confirms the Bible and not the other way round. It is science that had to keep updating itself to conform with the truth of the Bible which is inerrant and infallible.

Modern Science in an Ancient Book 
by Henry Morris, Ph.D.

"Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this?" (Job 12:9).

The book of Job is one of the oldest books in the world, yet it contains numerous references to natural systems and phenomena, some involving facts of science not discovered by scientists until recent centuries, yet recorded in Job almost 4,000 years ago.

A good example is in 26:7. "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."  While ancient mythologies may imagine the earth to be carried on the shoulders of Atlas or on the back of a giant turtle, Job correctly noted that it is suspended in space.  The force of "gravity" is still not understood, and it is quite reasonable to believe that God Himself holds it in the assigned place in His creation.

There is a reference to the rotation of the earth in 38:14. "It is turned as clay to the seal."  This speaks of the smooth turning of the globe to receive the sun's daily illumination.

"The springs of the sea" are mentioned in 38:16, even though it has only been discovered in recent decades that there are springs of water emerging from certain parts of the deep ocean floor.  The fact that mountains have "roots," consisting of rocks of the same nature and density as the mountains themselves, is noted in 28:9.

The infinite extent of the stellar heavens, contradicting the ancient pagan notion of a vaulted sky with stars affixed to a sort of hemispherical dome, is suggested in 22:12. "Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!" (see also Isaiah 55:9, etc.).

There are many other scientific insights in this remarkable book and no scientific errors.  The logical conclusion, as our text says, is that "the hand of the Lord hath wrought this." HMM

Your title was "science confirms the bible" yet your post was filled with bible verses.

I think your title should be "the bible confirms the bible", that sounds more like it.

what is wrong in being a satanist?