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striktlymi: Oya guy choose one: Atheism, Deism, Pantheism, Omnitheism, Agnosticism etc and stick to it, I am getting foncused man.

Duh!!! aren't you the one claiming am religious??

If atheism is my religion then so is everything I do diligently, including s.ex and romance and flirting

Ignorance is a disease.

When some xtians have been possessed by the holy spirit, they start saying nonsense.

^^^^guy, grab a biochemical textbook, its not L&R amino acid, its L and D. its not left and right, its dextro and levo. As in dextrorotatory and levorotatory.

natural selection selects the L in most organisms and because some organisms use D amino acid (google that if you doubt it) there is no doubt that life started as a mixture of such.

Chondrites are meteorites, your very intelligent brain should interprete that means amino acids form in protodisks.

what we dont know now we will know in the future, that's if you dumb xtians stop whining and let us concentrate on evolution.

striktlymi: I believe you get the point...

You are no Pantheist...

I believe when I say am a pantheist, you understand I mean am an omnitheist, meaning I believe in all Gods, since I do my businesses diligently.

Emusan: Then, whta is atheism?
And what support atheism claim; no God?
because evolutionist, atheist, humanist derived their stand from materialism



I never knew you can come to a conclusion with this your post (You of all atheist and you can so brag as if atheist have answer to all quetsions). I knew you choose to ignore that thread because you don't have a valid answer.

Life evovle spontaneously from where? Air, land, sea, moon e.t.c
you deserve not to be an atheist with this your reply

Remember you said something about life in my thread title "Information-evidence for a creator" which I told you not to derail the thread. For you to say "very soon atheist will produce life means you must have known the origin".




I can see you make sense by not knowing where life originated from.

concerning of origin of evolution of life, we know that amino acids can form spontaneously, so is simple sugars, fats and uracil. we also know that RNA monomer can form. This is proven by chondrites and montmorillonite vesicles so soon, we will crack the origin of life.

I cannot tell you anymore now.

dont worry, enjoy your delusion while it lasts, because when we finally crack life, y'all will become speechless.

drinking water is a religion since you cant prove that the water you drink always is 100% pure

striktlymi: Hallo Musky...

What 'is', is different from what 'can'...

Deism in it's pure form 'is' not a religion, but 'can' it become a religion? The answer is YES!

If a Deist goes about his Deism like ooman goes about his Atheism then that Deist is into religion.

How exactly do I go about my atheism?

I do my things just the way a serious minded person would go about his business. Remember that whatsoever your hand find doing, do it with all your power and might.

if atheism is my religion, then evolution, music, research, reading, debates also are my religion.

heck am a pantheist.

hisblud: something does not add up. Is ooman either folaky or musketoo? First of all the reply by emusan was to FOLYKAZE not ooman and i asked musketoo why he defends atheism while his signature is agnostic and in comes ooman defending that its his signature? Did someone notice this? Musketoo = ooman or ooman = FOLYKAZE?

did you lose your specks or is the holy spirit come on you or something more, are you mad??

I quoted emusan who quoted my signature, I didn't quote you

dumb nut

Pastor AIO: That's in your definition of religion. No wahala. However you realise that you are excluding (some forms of) Buddhism. What would you call buddhism according to your definition?

I would like to make a collection of all the definitions of Religion that are out there.

Only 3

belief in Gods

Worship of Gods

An important interest that influence your life. eg your career.
Oxford Dictionary

note that in the third meaning atheism is not included because then, being a teacher, a pastor, a footballer, a newscaster would therefore be different religions too.

Pastor AIO: So do we now take our morality from the behaviour of animals.

he is trying to tell you morality occurs in all social species.

we got our sense of morality from our ape ancestors

Pastor AIO: I don't think that the theory of evolution says that we are any more advanced than other animals. We are all adapted to our niche environments, we have all, every species, evolved to adapt to it and continue to evolve. If by advanced you mean the species that has changed the most from an initial state then probably bacteria and viruses are the most advanced species on the planet.
In other words, it's not like we have evolved from apes, or are an advanced ape. Rather Us and Apes have a common ancestor we have both 'advanced' from that common ancestor in different directions.

right but what is this ancestor you refer to if not another ape.

We are all Apes, simple.

the above is nothing but common sense. I love your logic, but this doesn't make atheism a religion.

a religion has a system of gods who get worshipped, we dont worship things, at most, we study them.

Emusan: You're not a scientist an you claim to be an atheist "atheism is the acceptance of reality.....by ooman" through what? Through Historical science. No wonder you argue blindly. Then you really make it clear that atheism is a religion.

Childish question,
*who created God?
*Is God outside the time?
*Where God get His own life? Bla bla bla. When you've been told many times that God is a self-existence being, omni-potent, omni-scient, all-purposeful, omni-present, highly intelligent. I know whenever your arguement is being retorted you people begin to ask these childish questions.

The presupposition of atheist is there's no God or supernatural being who's responsible for the universe existence which has been disproved by Intelligent Design (ID) movement though they didn't attach it to the God of the Bible but they conclude there's an intelligent supernatural designer responsible for this universe i.e great spirit, braham, Allah, God, gods e.t.c whereas the founder of evolutionism didn't ask this type of question before he draws his conclusion that "there's no God" he only said so because of his assumptions theories about the universe. To call yourself an atheist and asking these childish questions means you believe there's God you want to see Him/show Himself to you to get some fact from Him.

erhm guy, for your allusion to my signature, people become atheists for many reasons, not just for science and evolution..

in fact atheism predates modern evolutionary theory by Darwin so shut up there.

we say life spontaneously evolved, you say god is uncaused. shouldn't common sense tell you that we are all saying that a design does not need a designer, the difference is just the design we all refer to.

you claim that the most complex, perfect, infallible, omnipotent, omniscient, omnifiscient, sovereign spirit does not need a designer

but

we claim that a falible, imperfect, ever changing world does not need a designer.

so who makes more sense??

my dear, I think atheists and non atheists do.

striktlymi: Not until you give me a reason to stop calling you olodo!

because you have no base on which to claim that

striktlymi: Olodo!

Did anyone force you to an Atheist?

not someone but something, evolution.

do you not know all that decisions are influenced by external factors??

dumb xtians - give me a reason to stop saying that - its almost become my signature.

but still ...... dumb xtians

[quote author=Da-ny-ell]Who else could have revealed this 'truth' to the op?[/quote]non else but the holy spirit

striktlymi: Tired of this dance...

Bottom line: You goofed...

#Enjoy!!!

keep saying that and enjoy it if it makes your sunday complete and if you are too proud to learn.

Billyonaire: I speak from Experience, and experience is more than mere sensations.
When I said, I was atheist for about a decade, I mean it 100%, and at this moment, people still believe I am. I personally do NOT buy the idea that the "Islam 'Allah'" or the "Christian 'God'" are one and the same thing. I doubt everything about 'miraculous' birth of Jesus and the 'clandestine' ascension to the 'sky'.

But that does NOT mean that I doubt existences of other energy beings. Cos I have seen things in dimension beyond the third. That does NOT fall within the scope of Atheism, which denounces the existences of anything immaterial (gods and spirits). In my quest to know more, I realized its simply NOT WISE to be stucked in a state of disbelief, when there is an EVIDENCE OF astral existences. Atheism is a formatted State of mind, it needs spirito-cultivation.

what are the evidences of spirits that you talk about.

striktlymi: Hope you know that it aint bad to say: I goofed in my first comment...

ask and you shall be given, seek and you shall find - jesus

you know what to do.

striktlymi: Another post that screams: OLODO!!!

immorality in action

striktlymi: You seriously talk about understanding when you didn't even realize the extent of your own post?

exactly why I asked that question.

you know, it's not bad for you to say "ooman, pls explain to me"

striktlymi: Olodo!

An Atheist is the one begging for respect in the OP!

yea because xtians lack morals

Logicboy03: Ooman! Generalizations get you no where....







Now that's better

OK, let me rephrase: anyone who believes in 6 days creation, sun standing still, talking snake is too dumb for me to take seriously or respect. ╮(╯_╰)╭

striktlymi: Hope you know what it means to say the "whole population"?

hope you understand how that applies to evolution.

dumb xtians

striktlymi: 'Man is born free but walk about in chains...'

No absolute freedom for anyone...even the slave masters were also restrained...

yea so don't tell me man was created free.

dumb xtians

xtians are too dumb for me to take seriously or respect

Deep Sight: You miss the point, kind sir. No one has said that survival of the fittest means intra-species war (although in human history it often has, and still does). What is asked, rather, is simply if the act or acts of taking lives are thereby morally wrong?

The acts of taking life are morally wrong. We run in the face of morality to survive.

Deepsight: . . . And therefore is not morally wrong? No?

never said that

Deepsight: Why should I be concerned about the survival of my species, and not simply about the survival of myself and my family and those I choose to be concerned about. If anything, I could argue that my species have been very bad for the health of the earth (extinctions, global warming, the threat of nuclear warfare, etc) and seek to decimate them and live in primitiveness with myself and my family. Why is that morally wrong?

You obviously don't know the effect of what is called bottleneck effect. If your species becomes decimated, the species will lose variations that makes it survive as a species. Extinction is certain. Man has caused the extinction of over 35% of animals this way. If you do that to your kind. You will all sooner or later die, extincting your kind.

Deepsight: You need to address yourself to the question: why is it morally wrong to kill your fellow man? If we live in a competitive world, and are merely highly developed animals, there surely is no moral wrong in conquering your fellow man to survive, and in fact this happens everyday through wars, conquests, colonization, corruption, oppression, stealing, and the like.

Because killing your own kind does not favor your own kid's survival. Never because we were instructed not to.
It's simply because of that. Black widow spiders kill and eat males after mating, they make up for this by giving laying larger amount of eggs. so you may do whatever you like, as long as you make up for it.

Survival of the fittest is always at work. In an exam, only a few will pass. You do not need to kill to be part of those who will pass, you just need to study better.

so survival of the fittest does not necessarily mean kill, it also means survive where others are dying, succeed where others are failing.

after giving honor to whom honor is due by praising the Flying Pig above, can some one tell me how UCTG that makes dna up translate into '''HELLO MY CHILDREN. THIS IS
YAHWEH,THE ONE TRUE LORD. YOU HAVE
FOUND CREATION'S SECRET. NOW SHARE
IT PEACEFULLY WITH THE WORLD'"
with punctuations and capitalization.

that's 1, 2 is that DNA cannot be creation's secret, the origin of the universe will be best considered creation's secret.

kambo: In eden adam / eve were free but
restrained frm touchg d tree of
knowledge of good n evil.

you cant be free and be restrained.

_^_^_total rubbish