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Christianity EtcRe: The Improbability Of God by ooman(op): 10:19pm On Jul 01, 2013
Uyi Iredia: There is no 'nothing' as such, for if there was truly 'nothing' it could not be thought of, if 'nothing' can be thought of it is something. Put simply, there was always something. It is from this something from which all things in the material world springs. This something is God. QED.

All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
- Max Planck
We are under no compulsion to assume that what is behind causes in nature is a conscious mind. Natural observation itself disproves intelligent control in nature. This is why evolution is so successful.

If we assume a "Mind" to everything we know, then what is behind this mind?
Christianity EtcRe: The Improbability Of God by ooman(op): 10:17pm On Jul 01, 2013
Deep Sight: Nobody says this: this is not and has never been the position of any theistic school of thought. Theists say that something - God - has always existed, and not that it popped out of nothingness. It is in fact atheist scientists, who have argued (via virtual particles and radioactive decay) that something may pop out of nothing. An alarmingly iidiotic position, of course.
You are disappointingly wrong. The theistic school of thought is that all things there is must be made. Stupidly removing God from "all" things there could be. If God is, then according to the theistic school of thought, he must be made. This therefore self-mutilates the whole of the theistic school of thought.

Whatever is out there(outside the universe) cannot be a conscious entity because consciousness is a very complex process. Consciousness does not just pop into existence in all forms of matter.

The theists and deists now, must therefore believe in myths and fairies and miracles so that their assumptions can add up to something they want to believe.



Deep Sight: It could only be.
Funny, coming from someone who advocates that nothing comes from nothing.


Deep Sight: This is the nihility of your brains and reasoning faculties: and worse, of your intuitive perception.
When a 5 years old reads this, he/she can tell whose intuition is worst.
Christianity EtcThe Improbability Of God by ooman(op): 5:02pm On Jul 01, 2013
What are the chances that God could pop into existence from nothing to make everything?

What are the chances that the first cause was uncaused?

This is the nihility of God.

Forget Jesus, forget Mohammed, forget God and let's get on with life.

Its been a long time, but am not back. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: More On The Existence Of God by ooman(m): 12:14am On Jun 30, 2013
What a dumb logic. Does a knife require you to spend your whole life worshiping it?
Christianity EtcRe: The Gulibility Of An Ex-christian Atheist. by ooman(m): 1:40pm On Jun 23, 2013
cold: Yep true,i was a devout Christian for many years. Living by his word,never questioning because i was made to understand his ways were not our ways. I prayed without ceasing,diligently payed my tithes & offerrings,endeavoured to read my Bible everyday & the other pamphlets & Bible commentaries. Watched tele-evangel programmes,even touched the TV screen more than once as instructed for prayers. Sent monies to keep such tv programmes alive because according to them,keeping such programmes on satellite was an expensive venture.
Then on one quiet night,whilst praying fervently like the prayer warrior i usually am,it hit me! I've been talking to myself. It was my epiphany moment. All these years i've been sold a dummy..gosh ((facepalm)). Suddenly the picture became clearer,everything began to fall in place,i could see clearer now. The Bible turned out to be one big fraud & God..oh well just one big joke. We've all been trolled...
1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was in Hebrew.
3. It had no references.
4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjects.
10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
17. No record of working well with colleagues.
Wow...what an experience. Am thrilled. The thought just came to you? Like suddenly? Doesn't happen that way for most atheist. You must have been thinking about it.

Am an atheist too so no hidden agenda here. I think we are doing great.
Christianity EtcRe: obadiah777,strictlymi,frosbel,alfaselter,pagan9ja,can u prove dis by ooman(m): 1:21pm On Jun 23, 2013
even chimps dream, and some people still think personal experiences and dreams are reasons to believe in a god? silly delusions. God worship is forged in intellectual laziness and aparthy towards finding answers.
Christianity EtcRe: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by ooman(m): 9:31pm On Jun 14, 2013
The New Atheist Movement is something I can never associate with. As long as the gullible ones keep their delusions to themselves, why should I not want to tolerate them? I am simply an atheist, there is nothing more to that.

No man can live in isolation and variation is needed for evolution. If there are no believers in myth, evolution would become a truism. I think its OK for people who doesn't understand nature to ask questions. Asking questions and finding answers is how we will evolve intellectually to treat future problems and survive as a species.
Christianity EtcRe: Interesting Videos On Evolution/creationism/spirituality; ETC by ooman(m): 9:15pm On Jun 14, 2013
People read secondary school level introductory biology, then they come on the internet to speak rubbish about evolution.

Any one know how dogs came to be? By artificial selection from wolves. Now that is evolution, all the proof in one sentence, in one single species.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians, Muslims, Atheists - Pls Hell Is Real! by ooman(m): 8:49pm On Jun 14, 2013
Oh hell, here I come again. I have been in a supernova for billions of years before I was born, I felt nothing. When I die, I shall return to thee and in thee oh hell, I shall feel nothing.

Hell, a place of salvation, where people with reason spend eternity, the only place worth spending eternity. Rather than worship a God forever and lose my reason, hell has become my salvation from eternal slavery.

Oh hell, to thee I come, take me and make me a part of you. Heaven is no place for reason.
Christianity EtcRe: Science Confirms Life After Death! by ooman(m): 8:23pm On Jun 13, 2013
Emusan: Yes it will be physical. You can see your love one's, feel sad or happy, you can still sing e.t.c but no power of reasoning on your own and no power to control yourself because you're not the owner of your SOUL.
@bold: i'd rather rot in hell than lose my reasoning power.

and you contradict your own bible by your second sentence, Rev 21v4 says"he will remove all their sorrows.....there will be no more ....sorrow, crying or pain.

so you cant feel sadness in your little utopia
Christianity EtcRe: Science Confirms Life After Death! by ooman(m): 8:10pm On Jun 13, 2013
Emusan: I've said that I will create a thread title "Where is Ooman?" man it has been a long time.

No you can't view spirit under microscope as you can't view evolution too?

Thank God this time around is "all most" not "all" are creationist. Chech the link provided Michael Roll is a rationalist and freethinker, do you think he will accomodate christian in his research?
Atheist will never try it because it's against their religion.

Get the clue about the thread human has spirit and the spirit in human exist after death including mad man.
the bold shows your ignorance, if you have seen variations in organisms, then you dont need a microscope to see evolution, that's it. its the phenotypic expression of genetic changes and change is evolution.

I know no one, rationalist or not, in his right state of mind, that would want to find a spirit with physical calculations and fields. Their research is destroyed right from the beginning, nothing true and logical can come from it.

just one question: can the spirit run mad? if yes, then we have spirits, if no then we dont.
Christianity EtcRe: Science Confirms Life After Death! by ooman(m): 4:01pm On Jun 13, 2013
Emusan, you never cease to amaze me. So your spirit world is now something I can see with my microscope? Oga oo...

btw, we all know that almost all the so called scientists you list are Christian creationists. I see no reason why any atheist evolutionist would want to go into spiritual research.

and for the op, if consciousness is spirit based, why does mental diseases cause madness and other impairment?
you need to read more biology.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheist Pls Can U Help In Explaining This by ooman(m): 9:30am On Jun 12, 2013
Have you thought about fat weakening poisons, fluid or gaseous that could have been used to weaken the guy. The skin is permeable to fat & some selected substances.
The guy must have doped to have started the fight.

Just a little closer to things around you and you will understand how nature works and that no god control it, because god cannot exist. Gods are too complex to be uncreated. Spirits are too immaterial to be conscious. Let reason rule your every thought.
Christianity EtcRe: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by ooman(m): 8:12am On May 31, 2013
^^^you must be left to drown in the ocean of delusion in which you are already willingly swimming.
Christianity EtcRe: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by ooman(m):
cosmological journals tells of moon formation, just google origin of moons.

moons have water but in condensed forms.
some moons are more than 50% h2o in solid forms. I take it you understand liquids cant exist in space because of the lack of heat and gravity.

rocks and other planets are not sent off from the sun. the sun contains hydrogen that get converted to helium through fusion releasing heat and light energy that makes life possible. sun and other planets formed from the same matter, debris from a previous supernova, particules around the protodisk formed planets and asteroids. pls google solar system formation to read more. new solar systems forming have been observed, and since your god finished his own work in genesis, then its a lie, genesis never happened, if it did, then new stars wont be forming because Gen2 from 1 says everything was finished and completed.

you are still wrong concerning your cosmic ray-atmosphere saga.

and your bible is certainly wrong too, the sun would kill all life forms if its exist in the sky as Genesis claims

the only truth I know is that there is no god
Christianity EtcRe: Temperature: Evidence For A Creator 3 by ooman(m): 3:00pm On May 29, 2013
Emusan: Base on the theory of 'Haby'
above, it's not possible for atmosphere
to form under huge amount of cosmic
ray of the sun because earth's
temperature is lesser than that of the
sun (atmosphere formed in the process
of earth cooling).
if the atmosphere can't form under cosmic rays, how then does it survive under cosmic rays?
what you are saying is that liquid can't form at 300000c but it can survive at 300000c. that isn't true.
so its either the atmosphere could form, which it did, or the atmosphere does not exist now under the same cosmic rays.

moons are rocks from planets sent off to space by meteors. use google to learn before spitting nonsense next time.

and if you think that your bible is right by saying the sun and stars are in the earth atmosphere, set there by god, then good luck.

u always try to seem intelligent but the more you try, the less intelligent you are, mostly because you are trying so hard to prove an impossibility - the existence of a creator.
Christianity EtcRe: God Is Not An Assasin by ooman(m): 7:59pm On May 25, 2013
If god is not an assassin, why did he commit multiple genocide, murder, infanticide, human sacrifice etc as recorded in the bible?

I know of no worst assassin than yahweh.
Christianity EtcRe: After You Believe - N T Wright... and more videos by ooman(m): 7:56pm On May 25, 2013
I know what hell is about; its a place in your retarded puny brain.

There is nothing interesting about genocide, infanticide and human sacrifice.
Christianity EtcRe: JAMB Finally Turned Me To An Atheist - Chijioke Eze by ooman(m): 5:58pm On May 25, 2013
bottom line is both still do not believe in god.

God is a conscious being, his absence is the proof for his absence, that is the evidence of the absence of god.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does An Atheist Believe Happens After Death? by ooman(m): 5:47pm On May 25, 2013
I see nothing in xtians but people who claim to be moral supporting and siding with genocides and infanticides of the maximum magnitude known to man.

The bible has made people see nothing wrong with murder. It has been said that its religious wars that will end this world, I have no doubt.
Christianity EtcRe: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by ooman(m):
I'd rather go to hell.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does An Atheist Believe Happens After Death? by ooman(m): 5:36pm On May 25, 2013
Ihedinobi: Abeg shift! You tink say na just to type? If I took you on on the above now, you'd start yarning nonsense.

For instance, what made any of the actions you attributed to these people evil? Your hurt feelings? Make we hear word bo!
did an organism with human hormones say this or is this poster a rabid cannibalist?
Christianity EtcRe: Genesis 30 Verse 37-39 by ooman(m): 5:05pm On May 22, 2013
ATM,can I cash from you?

Before you can understand that verse, you have to drop all dogmas. Its pure genetics mixed with ancient thoughts.

Now do you want me, an atheist, to genetically explain it to you?

Note that I will say some things are not correct, and ofcourse they aren't.

So be prepared to get intellectually working.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by ooman(m): 4:54pm On May 22, 2013
Ihedinobi: Why then are you getting your pants in a twist because of them?
shocked shocked why do you continue to irk me?

do you not know that Africa will not succeed if these strange gods remain on our land?

am complaining about the god myth because directly or indirectly, it affects me and millions of innocent children.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by ooman(m): 4:28pm On May 22, 2013
Ihedinobi: And how could He have done any of the things that piss you off so much if He never existed?

Again all you do is prove that your intent on that thread was to rile up Christians further justifying JeSoul. Keep doing it, man!

smiley
still irking me!

This is the message I hope your tiny brain will comprehend:That those stories are myths and not worthy being taken seriously!
Christianity EtcRe: The Biggest Question Of All by ooman(m): 4:03pm On May 22, 2013
Emusan: You have changed from "deluded" to "dumb" only God knows the next word.

I remember in my thread titled "Information-evidence for a creator" you said vividly "I should stop bring God in debate with you, that what is your business with Him" but without equanimity state of your mind camped around a section that talks about God 24/7.

It really clear about you what HISBLUD his saying, so stop hiding under the works of science and continue to preach your religion.
I said no such thing as you quoted, I couldn't have written such dumb English.
Christianity EtcRe: The Need by ooman(m): 7:26am On May 22, 2013
plaetton: What is the difference between the cravings for narcotics? and the cravings for god?
shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by ooman(m):
Ihedinobi: Ok. Let's do it your way. Supposing I actually agree with you, have you stopped being an atheist/non-theist?
The Flying Pig is a God open to all. It doesn't matter if you are an atheist or a theist. The Flying Pig does not discriminate and He is not jealous.

Its takes a nonfunctioning brain to continue to worship yahweh after debates with me.

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