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striky, got it for ya on emusan info thread ![]() |
striktlymi: No I can't...it's almost like getting addicted to heroin man...got to have the 'stuff'...a sourcer ![]() 1 Steady Carlos Slim $73.0 billion Increase 73 Mexico Telmex, América Móvil, Grupo Carso agnostic 2 Steady Bill Gates $67.0 billion Increase 57 United States Microsoft agnostic 3 Increase Amancio Ortega $57.0 billion Increase 76 Spain Inditex Group agnostic 4 Decrease Warren Buffett $53.5 billion Increase 82 United States Berkshire Hathaway atheist 5 Increase Larry Ellison $43.0 billion Increase 68 United States Oracle Corporation agnostic 6 Increase Charles Koch $34.0 billion Increase 77 United States Koch Industries agnostic 7 Increase David Koch $34.0 billion Increase 72 United States Koch Industries irreligious 8 Increase Li Ka-shing $31.0 billion Increase 84 Hong Kong/ Canada Cheung Kong atheist 9 Increase Liliane Bettencourt $30.0 billion Increase 90 France L'Oréal irreligious 10 Decrease Bernard Arnault $29.0 billion Decrease 63 France LVMH Moët Hennessy • Louis Vuitton irreligious 11 Increase Mark Zuckerberg $20.0 billion Increase 25 United States Facebook Atheists ![]() |
striktlymi: Is this your archive? https://www.nairaland.com/1280067/need-athiest-freind/2#15587872just cant resist, can you? will have to log off to get it ![]() |
refer here Emusan: Mr ooman, you always make me laugh including big b.ang, cosmos.@bold - I didn't bother correcting you in that thread because what I wrote was obvious enough, how you misconstrued it still beats me. Anyway, am African, Nigerian and whatever. @fallacies 1. It is very wrong to use human language and computer language systems to define "information" in nature because human language cannot replicate itself, nature does. 2. If every information must be passed down, who passed down god?? 3. This same information scientists have discovered that meaningful patterns can arise spontaneously in nature which can be deciphered into meanings understandable to humans. Therefore, confirming that DNA can start as a simple pattern, which it did, since evolution means progression. 4. If something material cannot create something immaterial (destroying evolution according to you) then something immaterial cannot also create material (destroying god concept). Since both logic destroys one another, we are left with nothing. So from your logic, nothing should exist, but nature exists. So which is true? Materialism (evolution) or immaterialism (creation). To answer this we look into nature and what we observe is that there is actually nothing immaterial in nature. Lemme start by using your analigy of software - Software (immaterial eg god, spirits etc) can only make softwares. Softwares CANNOT make hardwares, destroying creation of material world by spirits, god etc BUT Hardwares (material - mass and energy so evolution) eg processors, ic, etc are used to make softwares (immaterial information) and so DNA can evolve from mass and energy and it in fact did Therefore, creation was wrong and evolution is true. This also do suggest that an immaterial god, spirit CANNOT exist since software cannot exist without an hardware. So, if there is any single chance that god exist at all, he has to be made of material stuff or he does not exist. So information can and do come from materials Thoughts are only delusions of brain network which can be terminated when the brain networks are obstructed. In other words, you can only think intelligently when your brain functions right. So, since thoughts are delusions and so is everything that exist within its vicinity - gods, spirits, miracles etc are all delusions too. All this inferred from your logic. I will stop here for now. |
Proffdada: Nope it needs the designer,just as nature has its Designerthat makes it certain that information and motherboard analogy does not apply to dna |
great....thanks |
Emusan: You're my boss nah!just one question... can the motherboard of a computer self-replicated?? |
striktlymi: Can we have the evidence that supports your claim of the 98% successful people thingy?do you feel threatened, Striky, why does this matter so much #looking for the link in my archive........ |
striktlymi: Hehehe...the spoil button aint so pretty eh?until you paint it with gold. ![]() |
Ihedinobi: Lol. Didn't read the rant. The guy is an obnoxious person to discuss with so I won't go out of my way to engage him again. But then, should he wander into my path sometime...Actually, if am truly unpleasant to you as you claim, you would rather run away from me than allude to me. If indeed am obnoxious, dont refer to me at all, holy one. ![]() |
striktlymi: ...this young son doesn't even know that one can work without achieving results.and this old man, full of experience doesnt know that faith makes no difference |
striktlymi: Nope!!! Because I don't have time keeping up with the dribbles of a 'Ramos'...i said am speaking from personal experience ![]() |
musKeeto: ^^^^only if they can prove to me that it is a lie that FAITH - WORK = FAILURE WORK - FAITH = SUCCESS Therefore, FAITH = USELESS |
wiegraf: Ah, good troll, assuming this refers to my logic, don't get ahead of yourself. I might be many things, including a sometime proud troll, but I don't toss around strawmen.sorry to quote you but those three bolded are actually jokers i find amusing. Their level of intelligence is less than that of a 2 years old |
striktlymi: Lol!!!because all others are irrefutable. Am speaking from personal experience too man. |
striktlymi: Nice evangelizing man...your flying pig would be proud...actually, my claims are supported. Mark of Facebook was a Jewish God worshipper until Facebook, now he is a self professed, PROUD atheist among many others |
Proffdada: Ooman you r really scared of hell n trying to console yourselfscared of hell, ha.....you missed it. On the contrary, i would rather go to hell than spend eternity with monster yahweh. Satan my God already promised me a great kingdom where i can do as i like, not paradise where all you do is sing holy holy holy to a monster and his illegitimate bastard ![]() |
Look, Ken Dont let this deluded clowns who believe in god make your life even more miserable than it already is. Faith in yourself, in your abilities and in your strength is the right application of faith, but a fact remains - faith in god is an abuse of faith, it is a condition of hysterical faith, just like too much of drug equals drug abuse, having faith in an invisible skydaddy, who let things go wrong for you in the first place is also an abuse of faith. Now that you are still alive, that means you are strong and fit to survive, believing in a god encroaches on your survival, god is like a parasite that kills and makes one miserable, just as you have experienced. The awareness of god does nothing good to man but gives us a fake sense of security in time of trouble, it gives a false sense of assurance when things are not certain, and you know what that leads to - complacency - it makes you accept bad situations all in the name of faith and hope for good times, your life will only become wasted as it is evident already if you continue to believe in god. Drop your faith and look into yourself only, this is the only way to success. Remember that 98% of all successful people in the world are either atheists or agnostics Peace |
Emusan: Are you kiding me?olodo, but you are the claiming immaterial exist as information and that is what i subscribed to. dna as information (immaterial) exist, in a sense, but it remains material and was not sent |
coputa: @ooman, you argue based on sentiments....you have no concrete to support your belief..,dnt just be a blind disciple..THINK ! ! !i dont just have your time enjoy your delusions man! |
Proffdada: I can't disprove you being a blasphemist not an atheist. All other atheist I've come across don't throw insults at God they think is non existence.or probably the evils the bible contains is what am exposing |
Mylove55: [ooman]miracles are liesMiracles are lies, they are not real |
hisblud: is nature immaterial or material?Both |
Proffdada: That's good, you've got a godYour problem seem to be that you are content with the fact i have a god Am an atheist and that is certain My flying pig is just a god you cannot disprove |
miracles are lies No god nowhere |
The ignorant base the evidence of their god on their ignorance Ooman |
Proffdada: better let's go back to the topicyea, do lets How do you do with the fact that many thousand gods exist and of all these, my Flying Pig is the only true God ![]() |
ijawkid: Ooman na just pure ashawo......you nka all of us na ashewo, abi you wan talk say you never do am before? |
Proffdada:IGNORED |
Emusan: Go back to the OP/post and read the message about materials and immaterials/about the question wiegraf asked "who pass God information".nature itself is information! |
hisblud: Artificial intelligence can be term artificial information which is a mimicking of real information in man. Now according to ooman, if the material can create the immaterial, is it the machine (matter) that created the software(immaterial) controlling it? No its a higher intelligence that put the 'software' in the machine. Extrapolate to information in man(matter), who put the information in man? Definately a Higher Information aka intelligenceyea, who put the information in the higher intelligence?? |
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