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Emusan: Mr ooman, you always make me laugh including big b.ang, cosmos.

Anyway is not new to me anymore once you can say in one of your post that you're not an African later in your post you're claiming Nigerian even from Yoruba.

Hope you've gone through the website very well and what are the falacy in the post you want to point out?

Ihedinobi: Is the above different from how I defined time to Lb at https://www.nairaland.com/1254148/why-idea-god-fraud/10#15260954 as evidenced below?



About your theory of inexistence outside time, there is one little problem.

If time is a sequence of events such that it marks their evolution and/or devolution, it is essentially a line.

Now if something could process every event of this line at once, that is, address itself to every point on this line simultaneously, would its overall or net operations be measurable in periods? If so, please demonstrate how.

Lovethywilbedon: so this is how you cowardly avoided answering the simple question, atleast you should have HONOUREBLY said that you dont know. So you have known now that "all that happens in life are not physical and humans are not behind everything". okay I will ask you another question, I hope this time you will become man enough and answer the simple question. Now those things that happen which no human is behind, eg THE ROTATION OF THE EARTH, WHO IS BEHIND THEM? PLEASE be man enough.

striktlymi: Hmmmm....

Emusan: Yes very right. Do you want to tell me most of your post aren't copy and paste or you carried out the experiment yourself?

Waiting....

ayenny02: WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE STORY IF U HAVE ANY PROOF TO BUTTRESS IT PLEASE BRING IT OR ACCEPT IT IF THERE IS NO CONTRARY PROOF TO BACK IT

The Night Journey – Al-Isra’ and Al-Miraj

Al-Isra’ and Al-Miraj (the Night Journey and Ascension) refer to the miraculous journey that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) experienced. Unlike what some people claim, that journey involved both the body and soul of the Prophet.

On that night, Jibreel came to the Prophet and told him to circumambulate the Kaaba seven times. At the Kaaba, Jibreel told him that he (Prophet Muhammad) was going to Al-Aqsa Mosque, wherefrom they shall both ascend the seventh heaven to meet Almighty Allah.

Prophet Muhammad started his journey of ascension from Al-Miraj Rock. In company with Angel Jibreel, he reached the seventh heaven within seconds. Today, a spacecraft traveling at a speed of 7,000 KPH takes three years to reach the nearest planet


Almighty Allah says,
“Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things). We gave Moses the Book, and made it a Guide to the Children of Israel, (commanding): “Take not other than Me as Disposer of (your) affairs.” O ye that are sprung from those whom We carried (in the Ark) with Noah! Verily he was a devotee most grateful.” (Surah Al Isra’ 17:1–3)


It is narrated on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:

"I was brought al-Buraq Who is an animal white and long, larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place his hoof a distance equal to the range of version. I mounted it and came to the Mosque (Bait Maqdis in Jerusalem), then tethered it to the ring used by the prophets. I entered the mosque and prayed two rak'ahs in it, and then came out and Jibreel brought me a vessel of wine and a vessel of milk. I chose the milk, and Jibreel said: "You have chosen the natural thing." Then he took me to heaven.

Jibreel then asked the (gate of heaven) to be opened and he was asked who he was. He replied: "Jibreel." He was again asked: "Who is with you?" He (Jibreel) said: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" Jibreel replied: "He has indeed been sent for." And (the door of the heaven) was opened for us and lo! we saw Adam. He welcomed me and prayed for my good.

Then we ascended to the second heaven. Jibreel (peace be upon him) (asked the door of heaven to be opened), and he was asked who he was. He answered: "Jibreel;" and was again asked: "Who is with you?" He replied: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" He replied: "He has indeed been sent for." The gate was opened. When I entered 'Isa b. Maryam and Yahya b. Zakariya (peace be upon both of them), cousins from the maternal side. welcomed me and prayed for my good.

Then I was taken to the third heaven and Jibreel asked for the opening (of the door). He was asked: "Who are you?" He replied: "Jibreel." He was (again) asked: "Who is with you?" He replied: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" He replied: "He has indeed been sent for." (The gate) was opened for us and I saw Yusuf (peace of Allah be upon him) who had been given half of (world) beauty. He welcomed me prayed for my well-being. Then he ascended with us to the fourth heaven.

Jibreel (peace be upon him) asked for the (gate) to be opened, and it was said: "Who is he?" He replied: "Jibreel." It was (again) said: "Who is with you?" He said: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" He replied: "He has indeed been sent for." The (gate) was opened for us, and lo! Idris (peace of Allah be upon him) was there. He welcomed me and prayed for my well-being (About him) Allah, the Exalted and the Glorious, has said: "We elevated him (Idris) to the exalted position" (Quran, Surah Maryam 19:57).

Then he ascended with us to the fifth heaven and Jibreel asked for the (gate) to be opened. It was said: "Who is he?" He replied: "Jibreel." It was (again) said: "Who is with thee?" He replied: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" He replied: "He has indeed been sent for." (The gate) was opened for us and then I was with Harun (Aaron) (peace of Allah be upon him). He welcomed me prayed for my well-being.

Then I was taken to the sixth heaven. Jibreel (peace be upon him) asked for the door to be opened. It was said: "Who is he?" He replied: "Jibreel." It was said: "Who is with thee?" He replied: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" He replied: "He has indeed been sent for." (The gate) was opened for us and there I was with Musa (Moses peace be upon him) He welcomed me and prayed for my well-being.

Then I was taken up to the seventh heaven. Jibreel asked the (gate) to be opened. It was said: "Who is he?" He said: "Jibreel." It was said: "Who is with thee?" He replied: "Muhammad." It was said: "Has he been sent for?" He replied: "He has indeed been sent for." (The gate) was opened for us and there I found Ibrahim (Abraham, peace be upon him) reclining against the Bayt-ul-Ma'mur and there enter into it seventy thousand angels every day, never to visit (this place) again. Then I was taken to Sidrat-ul-Muntaha whose leaves were like elephant ears and its fruit like big earthenware vessels. And when it was covered by the Command of Allah, it underwent such a change that none amongst the creation has the power to praise its beauty.

Then Allah revealed to me a revelation and He made obligatory for me fifty prayers every day and night. Then I went down to Musa (peace be upon him) and he said: "What has your Lord enjoined upon your Ummah?" I said: "Fifty prayers." He said: "Return to thy Lord and beg for reduction (in the number of prayers), for your community shall not be able to bear this burden. as I have put to test the children of Bani Israel and tried them (and found them too weak to bear such a heavy burden)." He (the Holy Prophet) said: "I went back to my Lord and said: My Lord, make things lighter for my Ummah." (The Lord) reduced five prayers for me. I went down to Musa (peace be upon him) and said: "(The Lord) reduced five (prayers) for me," He said: "Verily thy Ummah shall not be able to bear this burden; return to thy Lord and ask Him to make things lighter." I then kept going back and forth between my Lord Blessed and Exalted and Musa (peace be upon him), till He said: There are five prayers every day and night.

O Muhammad, each being credited as ten, so that makes fifty prayers. He who intends to do a good deed and does not do it will have a good deed recorded for him; and if he does it, it will be recorded for him as ten; whereas he who intends to do an evil deed and does not do, it will not be recorded for him; and if he does it, only one evil deed will be recorded. I then came down and when I came to Musa (peace be upon him) and informed him, he said: "Go back to thy Lord and ask Him to make things lighter." Upon this the Messenger of Allah remarked: "I returned to my Lord until I felt ashamed before Him."" (Sahih Muslim, Book #001, Hadith #0309)

ezme: Do you know how much the US spends on teflon vest for its marines every year? Contact your Egbesu priests, I will draft the proposal. We will contact the US government and make real money,We go rich pass Tompolo. If the US no ready we can go to war torn zones where there is a ready market.

ijawkid: What about many persons who have been shot with ak 47 rifles and no penetration.??......guess you would call that magic ba??.....

bolaino: lol, you remind me of the famous british atheist richard dawkins, u sound like him, but u guys are somewhat dogmatic in your assertion that there is nothing supernatural about this world, and that's where I think u guys have it wrong,

I don't believe in a God, but I believe that there is vortex of energy that surrounds this universe and it can be finetuned by a group of beings, to do a specific thing at a specific time, and this energy can be used for good or for evil, who knows, it could be a branch of science that we've not been able to explain or have knowledge of, but till we have proper grasp of this form of science, I will refer to it as the metaphysical.

Emusan: Thanks, what if I include the source, will you border yourself to open it even if you open it your next repsond will be it's a Christian site.

Have you deleted google on your system?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab2/information-evidence-for-a-creator

greatgenius: there you go putting your tail between your legs.. you come to thread shouting there is no God-- a belief that the majority of people do not share--.. I ask you to open a thread to state your reasons-something you claim you have done a couple times- and all of a sudden you developed cold fingers? ..

What is one more thread going to do..or perhaps you are afraid...you brought the topic of God not existing up and am only asking you to state your reason ... Or you suddenly have no idea why you made that statement..

BTW if you so wishes you can state your reasons for your belief here on this thread so you can hopefully shatter my beliefs as you claiming.. I m waiting ..

Ihedinobi: If you want to explain what "time" means and how "nothing" can exist outside it, you've got my full blessing.

greatgenius: of course no religious person will be wise enough.. they are in the same boat you're in- lack of understanding of what and who God is.. The only difference between you and them is you foolishly due to ignorance believe he exists not .. while they believe she exists but have no idea who she really is but only know him through the lenses of their pastors and ministers..The ministers who also still have no idea or refuse to..

Oh BTW you have not done nothing.. you have only ridiculed Christians for their ignorance.. not the same as proving there is no God..

Asking for a prove of God means you have no idea of what or who the ALL THAT IS is.. again open a thread and state your reasons why you believe there is no God..

And what exactly does Solomon "leaving" God- if there is such a thing - to do with God does not exist..the folly of a young atheist..

Omexonomy: No matter how hard we try to show you God you will chose to close ur eyes to it by arguing and insulting. I wish you well bro.

greatgenius: ^^^^ why don't you open a thread and tell me why there is no God.. might be able to help you on your ignorance...I understand religion makes people agnostics and rightly so but claiming there is no God solely based on your experiences with religion is very un-intelligent...

Open a thread and state your reasons why you believe there is no God and let's discuss

hisblud: Hmm to the bolded... have you searched all KNOWLEDGE of all TIMEs to come to the conclusion or its merely because of your non conviction?

wlex8: Are you 100% sure there is no God

Is your assurance from your personal experience / observation / research

Are you very conversant with all that exist in the physical and other dimensions

Lets hear your view. Thanks

davidylan: We didnt ask for your help, neither are we interested in leaving the bubble. thanks for trying but no thanks.

I wonder why you are desperate to help us learn "anything".

Reyginus: Fixed.