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Ihedinobi: Do you really think that true Wisdom is foolish to a smart guy?

It depends on what you call "true" wisdom. Do you mean wisdom that we must take on faith? then that is no wisdom at all but foolishness.

There must always be confidently assured evidence for everything man believes in. Wisdom of God lacks evidence!!

okeyxyz: True!! The wisdom of God is foolishness to man because it is beyond the realms of evidence. It doesn't make sense to man's scientific systems. It is not against science(as science is expression of god), but transcends science.

There is no wisdom that is beyond the realm of evidence. If there is one, it is utter foolishness.

Emusan: You said you're not against christian but most of your statement is God did not create the universe, Bible is copy from somewhere, this & that.

I will ask you this again the centripetal & centrifugal forces that makes planets revolute the sun, where do they come from? Because if they just exist in the universe that means scientist theory is not yet complete and I have never read it anywhere that sun generated any force.

matters behavior change in different environments. they do not come from anywhere, they are inherent in matter.

you too have not answered my question - where did God come from.

Image123: cross check the meaning of the word 'roots'.

maybe you need to do that.

Image123: my God of course, what did you think? All the best laws find their root in His Word.

Pathetic rubbish. All the laws in court came from the secular Romans and Greeks. You think we are talking about sharia law or the 10 commandments here? Religious laws are immoral.

christemmbassey: the cow is very comfortable with eating grass. So dont complain.

yep and the cow never needed your God. I dont too.

and am not complaining, its you begging me to worship your God.

nlMediator: Let's stipulate that the Jews copied the Eblas and that Ebla civilization long preceded Adam and that I need to do some reading. Now, can you answer my simple question: The Persians, Hindu and Greek have similar stories: Who did they copy from? From each other? From the Eblas?

Genesis is not just similar to the Ebla docs, it in fact contains the Ebla docs and since Ebla docs are older than the Bible. The Isrealites copied the Eblas. This is what archaeologists have proven true with proofs.

mayor23: Ooman, pls xplain dis..a woman allighted from a car where she left her husband and 2 kids. Wen she crossed d road she saw and handed a beggar a certain amount.
Immediately she disappeared, d husband sighting wat hapend from afar, crossed d road and created a scene, some passerby startn beating d beggar. D beggar said he should be handled gently and said d woman was in front of d kidnappers that he cant do anything about it. Wen they were about taking him 2 d station, he said for she to come back, d husband must kiss him, after little commotion, he kissed d beggar and they both disappeared leaving the kids as orphans and youre saying charms and juju are not real. This happened 2 wks ago btw

Pathetic nonsense!!

Archaeologists think the Jews copied the Eblas. Ebla civilization is older than Adam himself. So shut up and do some reading.

christemmbassey: its the life that the christian has, u can never taste until u've bcome a christian.

I'd rather suck the brea.st of a mad woman than taste Zoe.

I dont want your Jesus. I dont need your God.

davidylan: there is earthly wisdom and there is spiritual wisdom. I believe christembassy was refering to spiritual wisdom

I will work towards getting spiritual wisdom when and if I become a spirit. now am material and will spend my time on material things.

christemmbassey: look the best way out of these ur foolishness is to accept Jesus odawise ud continue to live like Nebucadnezar, though human but lived and ate grass in the bush 4 7yrs because he had cow heart. U can shortened this ur cow life by acknowledging God, he will remove the cow life and give u Zoe. a life of meaning and purpose. Its ur choice.

who or what is Zoe?

christemmbassey: oh u have beliefs? Is belief logical or scientific? Mr atheist/nontheist.

look, if u r having a bad day, dont take it out on me. Drink a cold water and get some rest.

christemmbassey: 'wisdom is profitable to direct, the bible says "my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" hosea4:6. All the things u copy and paste cant make u scientists. Real scientists recognise God thats y they are inventing and innovating to advance humanity. Who is a fool? The man who lacks knowledge, if u dont know God, u cant know anything else.

Davidylan, are you in support of the last sentence.? So I can reply.

davidylan: would it also surprise you to add that a good majority of them are christians?

Nah!! Its not about what the majority think. No one can deny that intelligence does NOT control nature but randomness along a gradient of change. That is what I base my beliefs on.

davidylan: I'm not sure i get his point. If his claim is that nigerian scientists have not contributed to scientific advancement and rely mostly on outmoded ideas in ancient textbooks then i would argue that should be reserved for "scientists" in nigeria...

Yes there are "labs" in secondary schools but most are relics from the 1950s.

while that is true. This christembassy guy need to be told that 77% of black doctors in the americas are Nigerians according to AIT cable TV.

And a Nigerian made the fastest processor in the world- forgotten his name, will check my archive and post it later and many more.

davidylan: I do not live in nigeria so obviously he cannot be talking to me.

He is partially right. A lot of the noise making "scientists" here have probably never seen a lab in their lives.

Don't deny your identity. You are Nigerian and that is what matters. Who says I also live in Nig.

There are "labs" in Secondary schools, to say they have not "seen" a lab is overstatement.

christemmbassey: mosquito bros how far, long time? Naija atheists claim logic/science and got nothing to show for their 'profainity',they can not even copy a simple tech and can put us out as a producer. The only thing they are very good at is obsolet science literatures to engage in endless ozonto and etighi dance.. Imagine ooman n d other onioks d2mbridge going back n forth with evolution nonsense.

I understand knowledge means nothing to you.

davidylan: Are you any better? You're just as scientifically clueless.

Hey Davidylan, christembassy is talking to you too. he is having problems with Nig scientists not atheists.

striktlymi: You don't know my God!

well in knowing him, I have to analyze him and see him. if not, he ain't getting into science classes.

turnstoner: Simply ignore me.

Exactly what every one should do to you.

christemmbassey: naija atheists are the worst, with all these their copy-copy outdated and discarded sense knowledge, nigeria is yet to produce a wheel barow talkless of a bicycle, all una science na for Nl una dey copy and paste, when u guys going to realize ur foolishness and shut up, onioks decambridge.

if Nig. atheists are worst, then there is no hope for Nig xtians and muslims.

turnstoner: If you had presented the post as the archaeologist's, I'll go tell it to the archaeologists, but this is your post and am telling it to you:

The book of Genesis didn't lay the foundation of Science.

Perhaps you didn't know that your favorite big b.ang came from the bible and that medieval scientists and Francis Bacon, father of scientific method all thought the Genesis 1 started the rush of science.

Now who are you that I should listen to you.

turnstoner: But your evidences do not add up.

Go tell that to the archaeologists who are atheists themselves.

turnstoner: I spose it matters what you think eh?

It matters what the evidence says not personal thoughts.

The Eblas are justified no matter how ancient they are.

turnstoner: Every mythology starts with a beginning; so dont get hung-up on beginnings!

Sorry but only the Eblas got the cosmos right. Archaeologists never deny this, so it doesn't matter what you think.

thehomer: Silly claims like what? Like the Christian God doesn't exist?

Like evolution is a guess! Do you also think evolution is a guess?

Am outta here then.

The Eblas got a universe with a beginning right.
There is no denying that. These people were wise, just like the ancient greeks that laid the foundation of civilization for us.

Its is about respecting the ancients and never about what you all personally think.

Its not about the Bible, Its about the Eblas whose document were recorded in the bible.

turnstoner: But there is no mention of the Big bang or expanding universe in Genesis

but it does mentioned that it has a beginning, if it does, the next reasonable thought would be it is expanding, which is proven.

The ancients are pretty wiser than we think.

turnstoner: Sorry @ooman, your last two paragraphs do not add up:

You say they got it right.

What exactly did they get right?

that the universe had a beginning. that the universe is finite in contrast to 19th century steady state cosmology that even Einstein believed until he was shown that the universe expands.

the big b.ang seeds from the bible and was postulated by a xtian.

turnstoner: Now I know you are a mad man. Probably frothing around the mouth.

You posted a thread yesterday claiming that the book of Genesis was a plagiarized work;

https://www.nairaland.com/1231831/genesis-great-work-plagiarism

and it fits perfectly. Genesis is only an hypothesis of the ancient never spiritual. There is no God.

striktlymi: Now you are not thinking like a scientist...I guess the non-theist has taken over.

Science neither discards nor accepts what it cannot prove

well I just gave you religious reasons why those two cannot be merged. It will be a disrespect to your God.