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striktlymi: There is actually! Some of the hypothesis scientists came up with started out as simple beliefs.

Dont tell me you also think hypothesis are guesses or beliefs.

an hypothesis is an unproved deductive reasoning based on observation. it has nothing to do with personal beliefs.

there is nothing like simple beliefs in science. all hypothesis are backed up by observation and when proven becomes a theory, like the theory of evolution!!

thehomer: Evolution is a fact.

so what's your point then all this while??

Ubenedictus: hehehe, that is if you consider "the love of God" an "issue".

what is the love of God??

striktlymi: Delusion is not my thing!

Then stop deceiving yourself. we all know there is no room for faith in science.

okeyxyz: At last you've landed, And therein lies the confusion and misinformation. You have just described the secular notion of love, and it's not just secular people who think this way; most christians do too, and ultimately they lose the god-debate.

Now God's own love is: To choose, to prefer or to Invest in.

With this insight you'd understand passages like:

FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES(Hebrews 12:6 )

Know then in your heart that as a man disciplines his son, so the LORD your God disciplines you(Deuteronomy 8:5 ).

Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit(John 15:2 ).

You see..,
Just like you'd manage a business you invested your hard-earned money in.

Pathetic nonsense!! How can you possibly know "God's own love ".Do you know the mind of God?? Love means one thing and I have defined it. If your God is found wanting, as he is, then he is full of hate or he does not exist.

Emusan: Good, so matters has brain to aligned other planet in an orbit to revolve the sun and kept them in their orbit. Ooman you need to do some research again because planet revolving the sun in a perfect arrangement which require a knowlegable and great skills, if not for God how this would be?

God is a non created self exist being. I know you need God to come down and explain how universe was formed and other things but I'm sorry He can't because of (our) sinful nature but He will if and only if you submit yourself and believe He is a superior God over everything.

I said you should disprove this, the universe came out of nothing according to the formation of the universe by scientist, True or False?

Look, you need to do some cosmological reading. I dont have time to lecture that there the word "nothing" does not exist in the cosmos. there is always something simple, unconscious everywhere.

simple geography should tell you how planets stay in orbits. you should know that some asteroid and meteors skid off some of which fall to earth as meteorites and shooting stars. the universe is not as good as you think.

musKeeto: Come one, should be obvious now..



Though I'm still not sure that was waht deepsight meant...

what do you think?

Deep Sight: X - X + X = X; Therefore . : . Resolve X.

X = X.

Resolved.

I understand you quite well.

x is not equal to x because we are different.

Ihedinobi: Nnaa, lekwenu dis my guy o! How is he to define love when it is you who has decided what God would do if He really did love us?

Ok. I dont have time for this prevarication!!

Love-an intense feeling of CARE and affection for another person.

So if God really cares for us and does not WANT us to go to hell
1 he wont create hell
2 even if he created hell-he would make sure he EXPLICITLY showed himself to EVERYONE without doubt.

musKeeto: You do realise that the first rains didn't fall till Noah's time...

You do realize that only Gen. 1 made sense and only the first verse of it and it doesn't belong to the Jews but the Eblas.

striktlymi: He is already there!

Oh poor thing. You are only deluding yourself. Sorry!!!

striktlymi: Good afternoon ooman,

Don't tell me you are still arguing this!

Have no choice

christemmbassey: an atheist in other fora but nontheist in Nl who have some beliefs and doesnt believe in God. This is my 1st time to see some1 suffering from mad cow disease. Its a shame that the atheists cant even help their kind..

your lack of comprehensive brain function is alarming.

Charism: if you didn't want to help him you shouda let him know, instead of pretending

are you sure you have your brain on? he told him the only way he could post the video.

^^^^^ done.

striktlymi: Thank you but I am disappointed in manmustwack! I reported the picture you put up there with the hope that it would be hidden but he came here without doing a thing. It's about time we keep our beliefs or lack of beliefs to ourselves and do our jobs.

ok, let me help ya.

I will remove it because of this thread.!!

striktlymi: Take your debates to some other thread!

This thread is not for that!

OK

striktlymi: Passion week is a period set aside to commemorate the suffering and death of our Lord Jesus Christ. It reaches its zenith with the celebration of the triduum of our lords passion which starts on Holy Thursday, when it is believed Jesus was sold off to the Romans by one of his own (Judas) before he was put to death on Good Friday, through Holy Saturday and then was raised from the death in the early hours of Easter Sunday.

and you have no proof for all this things. I thought it is only in evolution does words like "it is believed" "could" "would" and others get used. I dont know they are used in religion too.

ijawkid: Cool??..hmmmm.........your not taking nonsense has ostracized our field marshal logic boy off the religious section....

The truth is bitter!

davidylan: You cannot dialogue with a man determined to destroy you.

You can beg for mercy.

okeyxyz: You keep going on about "love this.." and "love that.." But I ask you a simple question: What is love? Then on that basis we can discuss what should be expected or not expected from love.

I think you will be in the best position to define love. Then we can discus the bold

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what happens during passion week?

okeyxyz: And what do you understand by God's love? Do you just take man's\secular definition of love and then force god to conform to such?? This still boils down to god's wisdom being foolishness to man.

Well i understand God's love just like God himself understands it. I know God to be love. Such a person, who himself is love, should not be so elusive when man needs love.

ijawkid: ....hehehehehe.....we need hÍm to balance the forces here.........I'll enjoy the fresh air for now but we need to find that guy.......

Erm bÙt we got a new worry worry Ín da house......sir OOMAN.....the belligerent homo sapien...

hey guy, am cool headed. I just wont take nonsense.

okeyxyz: So you prove my case then? The wisdom of god is foolishness to man(only scientific opinion).

Nope, i only told you that the wisdom of God is foolishness to God himself if it lacks evidence.

Image123: duh, i already did.

so why the mix up?

Deep Sight: Let me just add that my prayer for every man who subscribes to the virgin birth myth is that one, day, his own wife or intended wife will present him with such a story, namely, that she is pregnant when he has not touched her, and that an angel appeared to her with that same story as to the pregnancy.

Their reaction, will determine the extent of their "faith".

End of.

davidylan: Not really. You're the one constantly coming around to a section that is devoted to a God you hate. I wonder why considering there are a million other sections you could be on. No one drags you here.

Nope, you got that wrong too.

I have fruitlessly requested for Atheist section, but Mods said we should post here. So pls, drop the self flattery.

Besides, i also use other sections, but there is none as controversial as Religion section, which is why am here often.

nlMediator: In other words, you have no intelligent answer to my question(s)? Shocking!

Because your questions do not show intelligent thought. Disgusting!!

okeyxyz: A scientist who is an atheist limits all his beliefs to pure science(wisdom of man). He does not see the influence of any being or factor beyond
what can be physically tested. He does not comprehend a supernatural until it is comprehensible within his scientific system. Thus the wisdom of god is foolishness to him.



You have to comprehend god first before believing. Your faith has to be based on the principal understanding\wisdom\power on which every other wisdom\power is derived. That is why god has a value system that worshippers must conform to. How can there be a value-system without understanding. Now faith is the belief that this principal value system rules/lords over all other value systems\powers.

If the significance of the death and resurrection of christ is not comprehensible to a person, then such a person CANNOT be a christian.

If God truly loves man, he wont be so elusive, so pls drop the preaching!