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Rhymeyjohn: hence, your fetus in your mother's womb was no better than an adult pig. hmmm, i salute the intellectual ingenueity of the atheist.looking at what you posted earlier, you are an embarrasment to logical reasonong.

I know you are angry because I exposed your God.

I never said anything about pig and human but abortion.

I dont care what you think about me.

^^^People need to understand that Dawkins is a Darwinist and in Darwinism its all about survival so if a fetus hinders survival or comfort of women, it can be aborted without guilt.

He should tell bokoharam to stop bombing.

Emusan: Those inexplicable things is where the graetest widsom of God lies which makes Him superior over everybody.
Saprophytes are just organism in which they also have ENERGY yet they die. Is there any comparison between energy and LIFE?

If I may ask how do you believe universe was formed?
I created one tread this moring you can read it "Almighty God is the creator of the universe no dispute"

Thank God those stories was true, so you believe God parted RED SEA, Naoh built an ark, God created Adam & Eve Sodom & Gomarah was distroyed with fire by God e.t.c
Resurrection & miracles you mean is a formulation or what? Like I said I'm not a pastor but late last year God used me to performed a miracle. I total disagree with you on that because if I was not the one it happened to I won't have believed.

You obviously misunderstand me. I said creation, resurrection and other miracles-that include the flood, adam and eve, Noah in fish and all others- they are all myths because they lack proofs.

Concerning God using you- we all do some extraordinary things daily. Its not Gods doing. Its our doing.

I know I will be swallowed alive for this but BIOLOGICALLY Dawkins is right. A fetus is not a human in a technical term and so can be aborted if the carrier wants to.

Even God killed a baby according 2Sam. 12v15 simply because the baby was illegitimate. So if women too abort babies because they are illegitimate or unwanted, they have only behaved like God.

Yooguyz: are you among us who are you?

Am not a xtian but am not against xtians. am a nontheist.

Emusan: I read it well well but it questionable too think about it then if energy is eternal why human bodies rotten? Because I know this energy present in us.



Good of you because even scientist and physics can not prove it. Then ask yourself where centrifugal and centripetal force came from or do they really exist as the way they described them?

So far is inexplicable you should know that there is higher force that beyond any proved forces.



Thank God yuo're not african, but the statue that white man usually buy from africans is for what?





I will answer yours even though you didn't answer mine.

I havn't wrote any and I will never write one it's God's word my own is to meditate in day and night.

I havn't but I usually feel Him within me everyday because of my sinful nature but with 100% assurance that I will see Him in heaven but you won't see and feel ENERGY after your death.

I will be there when I die.


Good but not experiment because that one can't find God. God is a spirit and if you want to see Him you need to engage yourself in some spiritual activities. I prayed and something supernatural happened.



It is true but you understand the one I'm talking about.

Let me ask you this please if you cannot provide the answer it is better you find a true church not just church (I mean the one that spoil christians name) to ask for forgiveness and begin to serve God.

All the stories in the Bible do they really happen or is just a fallacy?

Tell me the truth.

sorry but most of what you wrote are inexplicable, but for those that are: the human body rotten because of effects of saprophytes.

For the bible stories, they truly occurred because there are many archaeological proofs. But creation, resurrection and other miracles cannot be proven, so, just like every other myths, they are just wishes and fictions.

chukkynwob: Are you seriously saying that hypothesis is the same thing as guesswork?

I personally addressed this question on page4, I don't care why you guys are bickering but I care for science.

Are you seriously replying that scumbag? he's not worth it!

wiegraf: Wtf are you not kneeling down? Sharrap while you're at it I said. And why comment on that post, or did you miss where I stated it was beyond you?

You need some OT style bulala. As for the bold, you perhaps do need to go back in that direction....

Need to leave now. Kudos

edits

lol

pls just make sense out of that yourself!!

musKeeto: Nope. Your foolishness made Pyguru realise his life wasnt as bad as he thought it was.

WOW. Am so glad my "foolishness" SAVED a life. Can you imagine that. This news made my day.

Man, seriously, am glad you finally made sense out of that "foolishness" and decide to continue living. I hope all those abusing me see this

musKeeto: WHEN would you accept that you totally missed the Op on that thread, our dear spick and span, good samaritan wannabe atheist?

I NEVER DENIED THAT I MISSED THE OP. CHECK MY APOLOGIES BELOW

ooman: sorry if i miss the OP, but i am contending the fact that death increases entropy.

https://www.nairaland.com/1229655/atheism-suicide-other-randomness/1#14823298

ooman: I am sorry if i have lost the OP, but i refer to 2nd law of thermodynamics and that law is infallible, no matter what you think, atheists and theists alike.

https://www.nairaland.com/1229655/atheism-suicide-other-randomness/1#14823316

ooman: sorry if i missed the OP. i immediately referred to the effect of death on the environment, according to the second law of thermodynamics.

https://www.nairaland.com/1229655/atheism-suicide-other-randomness/1#14823488

ooman: once again, sorry if i miss the op

https://www.nairaland.com/1229655/atheism-suicide-other-randomness/1#14823535

Now did you not read those

wiegraf: I didn't notice this particular brand of foo.lishness earlier. Now I'm mad, genuinely.






It seems for some magical reason I suppose only ooman knows, the laws of thermodynamics do not apply in closed system. First the second, now the third. Moving on..



Do note I never said it could be reached. I'm asking if it could reach just to point out the rather obvious. Work is zero? Then entropy is zero. For work to be zero, temperature has to be absolute zero. As absolute zero cannot be reached...

I hope I don't have to f34343g spell everything out to a PHD...

Anyways, our hero's brilliant response was;



Let me just quote you again, to highlight your RANK FOOLISHNESS




YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A FU43475G SCIENTIST FFS WTF KIND OF SUNDAY SCHOOL GAVE YOU A PHD?? WHATREUAOEEBF JKSADHFRB AKJKNFRASAEF

Bleep you...FOUCK YOU FOUCK U FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....RRRRRRRRRRRRWQEAD

Jokes aside, really, FOUCK YOU

Jesus Christ. What the hell is written above

This is totally pathetic. I couldnt make a sole sense out of it.

Could you just write like you were thought in your KG years? That would be better than the gibberish above!!

wiegraf: The other post wasn't for you (clearly beyound you). This one is

Kneel the fouck down, shut your eyes and raise up your hands. Think about what you've done while you're at it....

blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

davidylan: By the way... try and address ooman's point of how you achieve zero in a closed system.

He hasnt been able to do that. Am still waiting too!

musKeeto: Lol, u still dey here? I find it hard to believe that all this began from a thread on suicide..

are you regretting?

wiegraf: https://www.nairaland.com/1230274/striktlymi-davidylan-right-wrong#14828126

ok, i tought it was in this thread.

Notice LB's quote:

MacDaddy01: [/quote][quote author=]"Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics."

This shows more a misconception about thermodynamics than about evolution. The second law of thermodynamics says, "No process is possible in which the sole result is the transfer of energy from a cooler to a hotter body." [Atkins, 1984, The Second Law, pg. 25] Now you may be scratching your head wondering what this has to do with evolution. The confusion arises when the 2nd law is phrased in another equivalent way, "The entropy of a closed system cannot decrease." Entropy is an indication of unusable energy and often (but not always!) corresponds to intuitive notions of disorder or randomness. Creationists thus misinterpret the 2nd law to say that things invariably progress from order to disorder.

That was relative to his posting that quote!!

thehomer: I think far more Christians here don't have a clue about how science works.

It is general, but making silly claims when one lack clue isnt the way to go.

chukkynwob: Dear Ooman,
I've been a way for awhile I was surprised to see this thread but without further ado let me get straight to my point,

Personally,I have always advocated meaningful conversations where we can agree to disagree like civilised people(that we are),therefore I feel it is inappropriate to insult Logicboy( he can be annoying) or anyother poster because in the end insulting people will not make them to suddenly accept your position in an argument.

My only word for you my dear NL pal is to AGREE TO DISAGREE; even if your opponent in the argument is adamant to reason and logic, a 3rd party reading your comments might make sense of the viewpoint.

Just kiss and makeup with Logicboy and other wonderful atheists on this board.
Cheers

Personally, i never got in a strop. I only had problems with his claims. Calling thermodynamics pseudoscience is never what i would accept from anyone irrespective of if they call themselves atheists or theists. Again, he said evolution is a guess. These comments bug me. I'd rather abandon nairaland than leave those silly comments untreated!!

davidylan: lol good point.

yep

davidylan: Man... ooman sure cleaned the clocks of many here!

Imagine someone talking about zero in a closed system... oh dear!

I sure did!!!

davidylan: i would rather watch paint dry.

lol

davidylan: Again another who simply comes with bluster and no point. Where have i made no sense? Can you exactly show me why and how it is wrong?

Wonder why alfamann is finding it so difficult to show us where we have not made sense... perhaps he himself understands nothing of what is discussed here. As usual he just wants to abuse anyone who is not an atheist.

These NL atheists have the lowest level of moral and morale of all forums i have been to. Rather than address the OP they love to derail all threads with invectives. They are so comfortable wallowing in their ignorance rather learn something.

Am sure most of them just had a bad childhood and they took umbrage at God.

nlMediator: You did not catch the point. There was neither allusion nor plagiarism. The Ebla, like every other human, descended from Adam. They told their (creation) stories as they recollected it as it passed on from Adam down the line. The Jews told theirs, as they recollected it (I'm not mentioning God to make the point clearer to you). So neither is copying from the other. It's like your grandfather had several sons, including your father. He tells them a story about the family. Your father tells you the story he heard from his dad. Your uncles also tell their children what they heard from their dad. Some of your uncles and cousins wrote their story down. Years later, you write down the story your father told you. The fact that your uncles and cousins had the story and wrote it before you does not mean you copied from them or even knew their own written accounts of the story existed. So, you need to drop the plagiarism charge.

are you saying God appeared to the Eblas first, because the Jews will not take that likely with you!!

chukkynwob: Actually a hypothesis is an educated postulation from past experiences and observations,a guess is based on nothing.

Albeit hypothesis are still guesses though

Acceptable from someone who understands hypothesis are deductive reasonings.

Not acceptable from someone who think the whole of evolution is a guess (LB) which he said here - www.nairaland.com/1231387/twenty-questions-atheists-struggle-answer#14846240.

davidylan: the truth is both of you are equally clueless at this point. His claim that entropy does not increase in a closed system... is not true... infact just by looking at statistical probabilities, the likelihood that entropy will increase in a closed system is by far higher. Cases where entropy decreases in a closed system is very low (one of the situations where this might be true is in situations where there is significant gravitational force).

With regard to your response to him, frankly it was incomprehensible gibberish.

As far as muskeeto is concerned... it appears discussions that have more to do with science are so far above his pay grade that he is simply left with adhominems. I doubt he could define entropy if he didnt have the internet. But of course i leave you all to your fruitless shenanigans.

Hi, for the bold. Notice the only thing I contended is Gain and Loss in a closed system-which you confirm to be a good point. Where did the bold come from then?

his failure to grasp spiritual matters doesnt still mean he is not intelligent!! Remeber the bible said Wisdom of God is foolishness unto man.

^^^ just because you guys dont agree with Dawkins doesnt mean you should deride his intelligence

Reyginus: Guys please let's stick to the thread.

we ARE sticking to the thread. Someone was trying to denying his blunders

Ihedinobi: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen , being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:2 KJV

But my child be warned: Thre is no end of opionions ready to be expressed. Studying them can go on forever and become very exhausting! - Eccl. 12v12

So if you most of you are not up to the task of research, it is you that is without excuse!!

musKeeto: So 'I don't know' is now a sign of being unreal and unintelligent.. Men, get the 4k out of here..

You really need to grow up, and stop being so emotional about everything.
What is your problem, seriously? Get out of that bubble, man... Life's harsh. Deal with it. Not everyone will agree with you. Even davidylan used to mock you when you first joined NL.

You're being a silly a55 nigga. Someone just has to say it.

Did you just tell me life is harsh?? Did you not know that before you decided to commit suicide.

Wondering why you are still alive, perhaps you met Jesus already!

Emusan: Alright
But you believe the universe was not created by God. If God didn't create the universe then who created it? Since you claim nothing about evolution. The major problem you atheist have is that you keep on hammering "ENERGY cannot be created" yet you don't believe God exist. How then ENERGY came into an existence?

Did you read that energy cannot be created, so it doesnt need a creator. its eternal.

Energy is the simplest form of existence. I believe that such a simple form can be eternal than believing that a complex God simply popped out of nothing. If nothing comes from nothing, where did God come from?

Emusan: Thank you, so the centrifugal and centripetal forces that occured in the space that makes planets obey the sun (I use obey because they perform their duty by not leaving their orbit). Why not Earth, Jupiter or Pluto that other planet revolute? because you believe in forces, why the same force didn't make them revolute themselves or was it the sun that is producing these forces?

sorry but the above is inexplicable. I can't make anything out of it!

Emusan: You've not answered my question. The atom or atomic particles you're talking about where do they come from?

combination of energy. Energy does not need a creator, it is so simple that it is eternal!

Emusan: I'm not an herbalist but I leave in village before my brother charm is real and God is real.

Like am not African too. Look guy, free yourself from fears. There is nothing like charms and juju. Its just us.

Emusan: Any time topic like this came up I usually ask you, how many experiment/research have you carried out on your own to disprove God existence, have you travelled to the moon, have you been at the depth of an ocean? I believe all your quote are people's work which you never knew the secret that behind it.

well i can ask you the same thing. Have you written your own Bible? Have you seen God with your own eyes? Have you seen Jesus? Have you ever been to heaven?

What experiment did you perform to make you think there is a God?

Emusan: Truly some people wrote Bible but I went on to do more findings and I discover there was God. I'm not a pastor, I was born into christian home but I did personal research.
If I begin to tell you, you won't believe me but miracles happen and real.

Why wont i believe you? is it because your hypothesis are unbelievable that you even doubt another person would believe along with you? That is pathetic!

Emusan: If it's true then I advise you carry out a personal findings before it will be too late. Remember, most things Bible prophesied are happening now!

Actually, most things predicted by Nostradamus and other pagans are also happening. So pls, drop your predictive prophecies and get a personal life. God worshiping is a waste of time.

enilove: It makes sense because hell is a spiritual place filled up by spirit beings but located in a physical world called earth(material stuff).

Prov15:24 "The way of life is above to the wise ,that he may depart from hell BENEATH ( in the ground).

That is, the earth,which is physical, is where the hell the spiritual place is located. A material stuff is like the ground where hell( spiritual) is located & can be used to detect d spiritual stuff also.

If the physical or material stuff can accomodate d spiritual stuff,then the material stuff can locate the spiritual experience easily.

so now, you are saying hell is a physical place filled up by spirits? how does that make sense?