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Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 4:23pm On Mar 20, 2013
Striky, do know that angry comments does not necessarilly mean angry feelings? It might be didactic!
Christianity Etc › Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by ooman(m): 4:09pm On Mar 20, 2013
From wikipedia (abiogenesis) - More on number 4 - Eigen's hypothesis
In the early 1970s, the problem
of the origin of life was
approached by Manfred Eigen
and Peter Schuster of the Max
Planck Institute for Biophysical
Chemistry. They examined the
transient stages between the
molecular chaos and a self-
replicating hypercycle in a
prebiotic soup. [53]
In a hypercycle, the information
storing system (possibly RNA)
produces an enzyme , which
catalyzes the formation of
another information system, in
sequence until the product of
the last aids in the formation of
the first information system.
Mathematically treated,
hypercycles could create
quasispecies , which through
natural selection entered into a
form of Darwinian evolution. A
boost to hypercycle theory was
the discovery that RNA, in
certain circumstances, forms
itself into ribozymes, capable of
catalyzing their own chemical
reactions.[54] However, these
reactions are limited to self-
excisions (in which a longer
RNA molecule becomes
shorter), and much rarer small
additions that are incapable of
coding for any useful protein.
The hypercycle theory is further
degraded since the hypothetical
RNA would require the
existence of complex
biochemicals such as
nucleotides which are not
formed under the conditions
proposed by the Miller–Urey
experiment.
Sol Spiegelman aimed to find
the simplest life form by taking
advantage of evolution's natural
selection process. His new life
form, Spiegelman's Monster ,
had a genome with just 218
bases. Manfred Eigen built on
Spiegelman's work and
produced a life form with just
48 or 54 nucleotides. [55] M.
Sumper and R. Luce of Eigen's
laboratory accidentally
discovered that a mixture
containing no RNA at all but
only RNA bases and Q-Beta
Replicase can, under the right
conditions, spontaneously
generate self-replicating RNA
which evolves into a form
similar to Spiegelman's
Monster.
Christianity Etc › Re: Twenty Questions Atheists Struggle To Answer by ooman(m): 3:58pm On Mar 20, 2013
Chemical evolution for number 4 -
Sidney W. Fox also
experimented with abiogenesis
and the primordial soup theory
producing a number of reports
between 1964 and 1988. In one
of his experiments, he allowed
amino acids to dry out as if
puddled in a warm, dry spot in
prebiotic conditions. He found
that, as they dried, the amino
acids formed long, often cross-
linked, thread-like,
submicroscopic molecules now
named " proteinoids ".
In another experiment using a
similar method to set suitable
conditions for life to form, Fox
collected volcanic material from
a cinder cone in Hawaii. He
discovered that the temperature
was over 100 °C (212 °F) just 4
inches (100 mm) beneath the
surface of the cinder cone, and
suggested that this might have
been the environment in which
life was created—molecules
could have formed and then
been washed through the loose
volcanic ash and into the sea.
He placed lumps of lava over
amino acids derived from
methane, ammonia and water,
sterilized all materials, and
baked the lava over the amino
acids for a few hours in a glass
oven. A brown, sticky substance
formed over the surface and
when the lava was drenched in
sterilized water a thick, brown
liquid leached out. It turned out
that the amino acids had
combined to form proteinoids,
and the proteinoids had
combined to form small, cell-
like spheres. Fox called these
"microspheres", a name that
subsequently was displaced by
the more informative term
protobionts. His protobionts
were not cells, although they
formed clumps and chains
reminiscent of cyanobacteria.
They contained no functional
nucleic acids, but split asexually
and formed within double
membranes that had some
attributes suggestive of cell
membranes.
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 3:26pm On Mar 20, 2013
Any fool can say anything about nature but for an eediot to say laws of nature are pseudoscience is alarming.
Christianity Etc › Re: Huxley I Need Your Urgent Assistance. by ooman(m): 3:22pm On Mar 20, 2013
I will upload excerpts from his books later.
Christianity Etc › Re: Huxley I Need Your Urgent Assistance. by ooman(m): 3:19pm On Mar 20, 2013
Ihedinobi: Ah, but it is your reason for thinking so that I'm enquiring after. I am not ignorant of the man himself. I am ignorant of your reasons for considering him very intelligent.
Well, did you think that it might be because of his achievements? Anybody cannot simply achieve what this man has achieved without really being intelligent. Success is what separate folly from wisdom. The man is successful, he is intellectual, same as Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are.
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:43am On Mar 20, 2013
Yooguyz: you are still an athiest then
Yep but not on nairaland. These fools who call themselves atheists are bugging me. I can't bear this foolishness any further on nairaland. Even the bible makes more sense than nairaland atheists.
Christianity Etc › Re: Huxley I Need Your Urgent Assistance. by ooman(m): 9:37am On Mar 20, 2013
Can I convince you his intelligence? No. But you can decide for yourself. Check him up on google, follow wikipedia, all his achievements are stated.

In my own opinion is Dawkins intelligent? Very.
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:16am On Mar 20, 2013
^^^^you know, the problem with you is that you can't figure out the difference between chemical evolution and darwinian evolution.

Your quotes are correct, but YOU misapply them always. You always place A where B applies. Go back to school, they will help you and if not, then go to a mental institution.

This is the last I will say to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Omni-present? by ooman(m): 7:46am On Mar 20, 2013
shol: Mr Ooman I'm sorry I don't understand what you're tryna say, do you mean God actually wanted the fruit to be eaten? And by PLANS WORKING. What do you mean?
well watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_a6RjR_AHY
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Omni-present? by ooman(m): 12:02am On Mar 20, 2013
God was hoping on man eating the fruit for his plans to work, so he put the man and the serpent together!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Huxley I Need Your Urgent Assistance. by ooman(m): 11:20pm On Mar 19, 2013
^^^as a xtian, you would find the God delusion disturbing. Its against all forms of spiritually. If you are scientific, you will find the blind watchmaker interesting.
Christianity Etc › Re: Huxley I Need Your Urgent Assistance. by ooman(m): 10:45pm On Mar 19, 2013
Ihedinobi: Dat one na talk. Talk is cheap, my friend. smiley
have you read the book?
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 10:10pm On Mar 19, 2013
AND AFTER ALL THESE, A FOOL STILL DARE TELL ME THAT LIFE IS IRRELEVANT TO THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS??

THIS IS TOTAL INSANITY!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 10:05pm On Mar 19, 2013
Without the second law, there can be no evolution - so says - http://2ndlaw.oxy.edu/evolution.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 10:01pm On Mar 19, 2013
and from more reasonable sources:

To summarize this important conclusion that is known by very few who are not chemists: Energetically, the second law of thermodynamics favors the formation of the majority of all known complex and ordered chemical compounds directly from their simpler elements. Thus, contrary to popular opinion, the second law does not dictate the decrease of ordered structure by its predictions. It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously.

Also, to repeat a caution: The foregoing only describes energetic relationships [size=20pt]involving the second law[/size]. It does not mean that most complex substances can be readily synthesized just by mixing elements and treating them in some way. [size=20pt]The second law has nothing to do with pathways or procedures of synthesis – only with energy and its tendency to spread out/disperse.[/size]

Most complex molecules may require the expertise of one or of many chemists to put them together in a laboratory. [size=20pt]However, so far as the second law of thermodynamics is concerned, not only water but cholesterol, DNA, the anti-depressant in St. John’s Wort and millions of other complex substances contain less energy than their constituent elements. Therefore, thermodynamically, their formation from those elements would be a spontaneous process, energetically favored by the second law.[/size] AND THIS IS ORGANIC EVOLUTION. EVERYTHING THAT EVOLUTION STANDS FOR!!!

http://2ndlaw.oxy.edu/evolution.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:57pm On Mar 19, 2013
Thermodynamics is a compound of two Greek words, therme (heat) and dunamis (power). How come this never includes living systems?
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:50pm On Mar 19, 2013
after all my attempts. I have nothing more to say to these fools.

When ever those i directed my OP to replies, i shall come back.
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:49pm On Mar 19, 2013
and even more diagrams for the children

Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:47pm On Mar 19, 2013
EVEN MORE ILLUSTRATIONS FOR THE EEDIOTS

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Suicide... And Other Randomness by ooman(m): 9:40pm On Mar 19, 2013
wiegraf: Ok, ok. Just don't jump. We'll miss you, truly
IGNORED
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:36pm On Mar 19, 2013
yet another illustration.

If only the illiterates hiding as atheists will understand!

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Suicide... And Other Randomness by ooman(m): 9:35pm On Mar 19, 2013
wiegraf: lol

Anyways, in order to work I have to be seriously entertained by one thing or the other else my brain will fail to concentrate, hence procrastination. You, good sir, are just about providing enough entertainment. I might actually start working soon. Thank you
can you just shut up??

Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:31pm On Mar 19, 2013
MacDaddy01: I actually read part of the paper you gave.

They actually try to interpret evolution from a thermodynamic view- not the other way around.


This is what you simply fail to understand
interpret evolution from a thermodynamic view means that interpret life as a result of thermodynamics, which is everything i have said which you fail to grasp.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Suicide... And Other Randomness by ooman(m): 9:29pm On Mar 19, 2013
wiegraf: You really do need crayons, picture books (preferably with stories feature miracles), etc to grasp this.
blah blah blah of a pig!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Suicide... And Other Randomness by ooman(m): 9:25pm On Mar 19, 2013
wiegraf: Eya, your intentions were honest. You thought someone was suicidal, someone who went out of his way to state he wasn't so in anyway whatsoever btw, then just posted the first thing that came to your mind. It's a little like this, even if not exactly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor



Your case was not malice, but you get the point (I hope). Anyways, that's no excuse to say something so spectacularly vacuous as most other people wouldn't do the same in similar situations. Btw, I had to mention muslims before you realized the scope of your folly. You no try for them...at all.

Perhaps you should stop and think before you post? It helps. For instance, if I wasn't replying so quickly I would have noted that your eating other life to sustain yourself sort of illustrates entropy. Sort of. You eat the your meal, convert the poor dead whatever to energy, you've now switched from one type of order (dead meat) to another (energy/matter that you would use). You cannot convert that energy back into the meat. You could try, but not without loosing/expending resources which are lost irretrievably. So even if you were a supa-dupa scientist, whatever process used would involve you expending energy/matter irretrievably one way or the other. So the end result? Overall entropy always increases, or overall disorder if you like. Eventually everything will become essentially useless. This isn't the best way to put it probably, but it will have to do until I have more time to come edit it.

And don't get so depressed, you now sound suicidal. Do you need a hug? Even if it all seems pointless and what not remember that you could always set goals for yourself. You don't need god to do that for you, after all, he used the same tools you possessed to set out goals for you; consciousness? Don't you have people you want to help smile? Don't you have religionists you want to troll? Things you want to do, eg better humanity's lot? Think about that before you jump off a cliff.

(random: I wonder if I have to stress assuming in this case as well...)
yawns, absolute nonsense. Got no time to read this c.rap. There is nothing sensible that can come from a person who think that entropy equals order.
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 9:04pm On Mar 19, 2013
^^^^ actually, i am used to your unintelligence, it is no longer alarming!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Striktlymi, Davidylan: You Are Right, Am Wrong. by ooman(op): 9:02pm On Mar 19, 2013
musKeeto: Cry-baby... Evolution must have worked a little too hard on your lacrimal glands... As for your brain, it's more like a revolution... Something spinning wildly and out of control...
you know, guy, you can kill yourself if you want. There is no room for dummies who are tired of life.!!!! NL will be better in your absence and your death will make no difference!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 8:58pm On Mar 19, 2013
Life is the manifestation of the second law of thermodynamics, it is totally disappointing, absolutely insane and totally incomprehensible for any eediot to claim that life is irrelevant to the second law of thermodynamics. I will not accept this insanity for any reason.

Attached is another document, upon all other i have provided that explains the second law. Titled "life as a manifestation of the second law of thermodynamics" in my sig
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 8:53pm On Mar 19, 2013
MacDaddy01: grin grin grin

There are at least two fools on your title of the thread.
sorry but there no fools but anyone who think that life is irrelevant to the second law of thermodynamics when in fact, life evolved because of the second law of thermodynamics.
Christianity Etc › Re: Striktlymi, Davidylan: You Are Right, Am Wrong. by ooman(op): 8:47pm On Mar 19, 2013
musKeeto: Glad we made your sig... smiley
SMH
Christianity Etc › Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by ooman(op): 8:43pm On Mar 19, 2013
MacDaddy01: huh

Why would I deny that? Is it wrong? Could you simply explain why it is wrong?
i have no time for foo.ls

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