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ufotunang:Its a win win for everyone because LFC will be getting back the 25million dat was used to buy mane from Southampton plus extra 17million! Mane will finally get a new challenge at German! I really wish him well! He will always remain a legend at Liverpool! |
DavSagacity:lol! I will take that as a compliment! But please try next time to get your facts right instead of relying on half baked theories and spurious claims that are unfounded! Once again leave beer parlour gist! ![]() The internet is free! Comprendo? |
ufotunang:Oga let's stop this narrative! This is the 21 century and you can get info well from the internet! If there is any country where they look down on black players its actually the country he might likely be heading to which is Germany! However,what was the agreement that was made with Bayern Munich despite his age...a whooping 375k a week! That's the handiwork of his agents and not colour or where he comes from! Now let's come to the bone of contention! Liverpool offered him a 3rd contract and it was the responsibility of the agents to negotiate a better pay for their client! Since mane earned 100k from his second contract extension,negotiating an amount above 200k would have been impossible considering his age! If the agents had negotiated atleast 200k in his second contract,it would have made sense to demand above 250k or more in the 3rd contract! However the damage was done in the second contract when his agents failed to negotiate a better contract! Chamberlain got a better pay because he signed a long term contract and his agents negotiated better! If I were mane,I would have sacked his agents after accepting a 100k per week in his second contract! But it seems mane was not too bothered or the money conscious kind of player and didn't want to drag negotiations any further hence he told his agents to accept the salary! |
Two glorified ancestors! Is God not great? |
AreaFada2:Totally agree! |
Cognitivereason:You are entitled to your opinion! However Every point I have made is verifiable! Cognitivereason:You are still missing the point and tagging mine emotional which is normally a tool used in trying to deflate the clueless nature of buhari! I have no problem with repairing refineries but the timing of the repair is my problem...why 2022? This is a president that had 8 solid years to repair refineries and he suddenly realized that after spending so much on a subsidy he had initially denied existed he now feels the best time to repair the refineries is towards the end of his time as president? If he had done this in early enough like 2015,he would have also done the repairs in Kaduna and we won't need to do the waiting game with a dangote refinery! Cognitivereason:There is no difference oga! We are not talking about the past! In fact buhari has actually done worse than both presidents put together! The reason why buhari came to power is due to his acclaimed ability to fix the economy and insecurity not to resort to blame game of past leaders which has been d bane of his administration! That's why he has gotten nothing right so far! Fixing the refineries like I said would have not only taken care of just LPG but aviation fuel and diesel! If he had done this earlier,we won't be having this discussion but he choose like you to waste a better part of his administration to resort to blame game not knowing that such does not fix anything! Cognitivereason:Can you even read what you just put up that NNPC were working on getting 2.5b dolls after 7 years? So NNPC used 7 years to look for funds to fix refineries that they had once said was beyond repair? This narrative cannot hold water oga! Are you aware that FG has so far borrowed 19trillion from CBN only during buhari's tenure? What stopped FG from borrowing then from CBN knowing how critical and imperative to tackle the issue of importation of finished products! Is this not the height of ineptitude from him and his foot soldiers? Please use another catchy excuse...this one is dead on arrival! I am sure making this assertion would have come as a shock to you! lol Cognitivereason:It takes 8 years to process a 1.5b loan and yet he gas so far borrowed 19 trillion from CBN right from his first term in office? What a joke of an excuse! Once again your argument is dead on arrival! The President had 8 years to process 1.5billion to repair just one refinery! You are obviously the glorified joker! Getting funds is not rocket science! If he had the willpower and the intelligence, this would have been processed in months not 7 years! yet he has borrowed 36 trillion and none was used to fix refineries! Oga your argument is flawed and dead on arrival! Cognitivereason:So let's assume without conceding it takes 2 years to process a 1.5billion loan which is identical to the amount that is currently used to repair the pH refinery....if buhari had started in 2014 ,the repairs of refineries at phcity would have commenced by 2016 or 2017 and possibly be concluded by late 2021! Are you insinuating that it took your baba 7 years to process a 1.5b dollars loan yet he had gotten the senate to approve more than 4 different loans above 5b dollars before his 7th year in office? You can now see the apparent folly of this terrible inclination of yours Cognitivereason:So in 2022,you are still on the issue of blaming past presidents despite spending 8 years in office! What manner of cluelessness is this? Why was he elected in the first place? Was it not because he said he had the wherewithal to fix the refineries? Or was he not the one who said he will fix refineries in his first term in office? If a person is hired in a firm to fix a problem done by his predecessor, will such person apply 8 years using blame game as an excuse for none performance? He will simply get fired in his 5th year! You made a hilarious argument that it took buhari time to process a 1.5 billion loan because other avenues were blocked but the same administration had avenues to borrow between 10-15billion dollars as early as 2015 and 2016! So far buhari has borrowed 19 trillion alone from CBN and 36 trillion in total....not from 2022! Based on your hilarious web of lies spiced with a poor taste argument cum excuse,it will take your daddy 8 years to process a 1.5b and another 8years to process another 1.5b for Kaduna refinery! I know you are trying to defend his incompetence because you are obviously paid to do so but pls do not disconnect your cerebrum while carrying out this responsibility! Cognitivereason:Ohh please trash that argument! Do you know how much buhari has borrowed from world bank as at 2015 and 2016? Did buhari not enable the then Governor of Edo Adams oshimole to process a humongous loan in dollars from world bank? When did buhari start processing loans from IMF? Did that happen in 2018? Oga go and update yourself with a better excuse! Cognitivereason:The more you make this benighted argument the more you sound like a sinking man gasping for water! So the idea of repair was conceived in 2014 but the actualisation started in 2021/2022! 6 years of idea processing and 7th year to actualized! This is a definition of slow motion administration! No wonder it has been filled with shocks recently! Chai....I had to laugh before replying! Nice try oga! Thank God he is leaving! We are done with his ineptitude and sloggishness which you are finding hard to defend! Cognitivereason:Oga you have no concrete or better argument! Stop defending the ineptitude of a glorified failure! I guess the funds used to purchase the tucano jets also took him 8 years abi? Chai....I almost forgot you are paid to defend him but please do so intelligent! You are so far performing poorly! Cognitivereason:I had to skip through most of the pile of stale blame games because its obvious your daddy clueless spent most of his administration blaming the past rather than focussing on what he can do! Bottom line is you don't need 8 Years to borrow 1.5 billion! A serious government will even get the funds as early as 2016 from world bank or IMF and it takes nothing as long as you have a collateral in place or foreign reserves but everyone knows that buhari spent the better part of his first term blaming his predecessors forgetting he will be judged by his input in the promises made and not by the vibration of his blame games which is no longer usable! And please save your blame game in case another ancestor like buhari manages to get to aso rock...this is 2022 not 2014..so far it has not helped the economy or reduced insecurity which is another area that he has failed woefully but that's a topic for another day! ![]() |
Prenonjebose:Its not for the management to give him what he deserves but the ability or capability of his agents to present a better pay for their client based on the current value of the player! When mane came from Southampton,he and his agents signed and accepted an 80k per week contract....they still had another opportunity to push up his wages to a bigger pay but agreed on a 100k per week despite being red hot in 2018! If I were mane,I would have sacked those agents! The agents are the key to a better pay! That's why salah's contractual talks with LFC have not reached a conclusion because salah's agents are asking for more than 350k which LFC cannot risk esp considering salah's age! The bottom line is the agents are the key to a better pay for their client! |
frog12:Smh |
frog12:Okay! Now go and rest! |
frog12:Guyman you are prolonging an argument that should have been done! Like i said for the umpteenth time,if he is unhappy with his pay,either he negotiates a better pay or he leaves..Its as simple as that! |
frog12:Once again i have shown you african black players that earn huge pay....Whatever Pulisic is has no consequence on the bone of contention! There are african players earning less but there are somme earning more...Just the same way there are white players earning less while others earn more! The key is the capability of your agents to negotiate better based on your value! Like i said,your prevarication is in poor taste and is totally unnecessary! Try again! |
frog12:Atleast you finally agree on what i have been explaining! My only comma is your insistence on this victimisation...If you are good,you are good...If mendy's agents signal that mendy is available,you will be shocked by the amount of top clubs that will want his signature! The club business is purely based on your value and the capability of your agents to get a better negotiation for you not your skin colour or continent! |
frog12:Oga these whole epistle you are spewing is baseless and unnecessary! Your argument was that mane was undervalued and earned less because of his colour and continent! I showed you black players that earn huge pay and you labelled them foreigners and i now gave you black and african players that earn far more....A wise guyman at this point should have accepted that he goofed and live to fight another day but you now attempted a poorly conceived tact to prevaricate which ended up making zero sense! Your pitiable attempt at being evasive is in poor taste! |
frog12: ![]() Busted Oga U have no argument joor! U said no black player earns better pay because they are black like charcoal and i showed you! Whether Partey came from Atletico or Abumeyang from Dortmund is immaterial! I have given you the black players that earn big pay! The fact that Abumeyang is from a less fancied africa yet earn 400k proves my point that Mane has very poor agents not because of his colour or continent! I could have included African players like Mahrez and salah or Hakimi but you will say they are too white..! Guy die this argument its riddled with inconsistencies! |
frog12:You are still missing the point and i am not surprised because most of your yarns are normally beer parlour gists! De gea earned less than 150k when he first came to United but a contract extention by his agents gave him a high pay to swelled to 325k! If Mendy believes he should be earning more he knows what to do! Stop with all these victimization mentality! If a club does not meet his value in terms of monetary terms,the agents can start signaling for other clubs about his availability in the transfer market! Simple! |
frog12: ![]() Oga no worry...I will give you african players who are black earning higher pay! Keita 150k per week Kelechi Iheanacho 155k per week Aubameyang 400k per week Thomas Partey 250k per week Should i still go on or are they white? ![]() If i even go way back to the time of the Toure brothers or the drogbas or the Geremi njitaps or Eto....they earned 250k and above! Jota is an average player yet he scored 15 goals in the EPL and was ahead of Mane in the goals table? Your eyes dey pain you? Guy man you nor get talk abeg! |
osazsky:I am simply trying to let you know that contrary to your half-hearted attempt to give LFC some knocks,these players became the fulcrum of the team when the time came! Meanwhile when will Mancity your beloved club get a single UCL trophy despite all the funds paid for the recruitment of overinflated players and manager? ![]() Abi them carry 'almost' swear for mancity? ![]() |
frog12: ![]() If you dont know jota please go and check his stats He scored more goals than Mane this season..Fact! Ohhh please stop all this pile of balderdash.If mendy is not happy with the 50k,his agents can meet the management to negotiate a better deal and contract which is what happens to all players in their first contract! If the club does not agree,his agents can start looking for another club for him with a better pay now that he has a better value...This archaic inclination will not fly! |
osazsky:So Keita who earns 180k is european abi? A black player Pogba who earns 300k per week is white right? Balotelli a former LFC player is darker than Mane and yet earned 264k per week at Liverpool! Jota is white and european but earns 90k Rashford is a black man but earns 200k plus in a week Sterling from mancity is a black man but earns 300k per week Makalele,Drogba,Jerimie who had played for Chelsea Fc and earn huge pay must be from europe abi? I am shocked that you are swallowing this pile of rubbish about african players! If i dey preach sermon you dey spit errors! |
frog12:Guy stop this victims mentality about making everything about racism! There was nothing like strong arm tactics from the management...on the contrary,the agents are the ones with an advantage...If a salary is not agreed on,the agents start looking for another club for their client because they stand to benefit more with a higher pay...This is public news...this is why salah's contract has prolonged to this point despite earning 200k! You speak without facts...A former LFC player Balotelli was earning 264k per week and he is darker than Mane! Jota is an european player and he is white yet he earns 90k per week! You have been yapping endlessly about Mendy forgetting that Arizaballaga's agents negotiated a very high amount due to his valuation and long term contract.....Mendy earned less not because of Chelsea but because of his agents! Once again you will not go anywhere with this black mentality...or always feeling its a white against black matter! Drogba is african and black but earned huge pay during his playing days at Chelsea! Jeremi Njitap is an african and played for Chelsea and earn more money per week than some super stars in Chelsea! |
frog12:Is virgil van dijlk a white player? Is Mohammed Salah an european player? Diego Jota is white and european and yet he earn 90k per week! Diaz is a south american like fabinho and yet he earns 56k per week! Guy man please dont bring in racism here! Most of your yarns are purely borne out of speculation and beer parlour gists!! The issue of mane has nothing to do with his colour or his continent! Just like what some one rightly said,Mane came to Liverpool from southampton after agreeing to an 80k per week fee...His agents then proceeded to a higher pay and contract in 2018 which was an opportunity to upgrade but only agreed on 100k.....However chamberlain agents negotiated and got him a better and higher pay though it was based on a long term contract! The fault resides with the agents who failed to negotiate a better pay for mane... Whatever you see any player earning is based purely on the negotiations from their agents and not the acclaimed selfishness of the club management! |
DavSagacity:Your info is false and borne out of emotions! Thats why i labelled it a beer parlour gist or better still an unverified yarn! |
frog12:Is virgil van dijlk a white player? Is Mohammed Salah an european player? Diego Jota is white and european and yet he earn 90k per week! Diaz is a south american like fabinho and yet he earns 56k per week! Guy man please dont bring in racism here! Most of your yarns are purely borne out of speculation and beer parlour gists!! The issue of mane has nothing to do with his colour or his continent! Just like what some one rightly said,Mane came to Liverpool from southampton after agreeing to an 80k per week fee...His agents then proceeded to a higher pay and contract in 2018 which was an opportunity to upgrade but only agreed on 100k.....However chamberlain agents negotiated and got him a better and higher pay though it was based on a long term contract! The fault resides with the agents who failed to negotiate a better pay for mane... Whatever you see any player earning is based purely on the negotiations from their agents and not the acclaimed selfishness of the club management! |
Yinksy09:Not for too long.. Age will surely catch up with him! He will be fortunate to still play and complete two seasons at Bayern before being replaced by a smallie! |
frog12:Football age ohh...have you seen Mane at 18? Mane is not Ronaldo who is still actively playing at 37 Do you know Keita's football age is 25 despite playing for three clubs in europe before coming to Liverpool? |
macho44:Nice one bro! Explicit and concise! |
osazsky:When Torres left for Chelsea,Suarez stepped up When Suarez left for barca,Coutinho stepped up when coutinho left for barca,Salah and Mane stepped up When Mane leaves,others will step up to the responsibility! Its could be Nunez or Jota or Diaz! Soldier come and soldier go..the prison will remain! In a good club system where recruitment is spot on and players are properly managed under a class coach like Klopp,no player is missed! Interestingly,it was after Coutinho left that Liverpool won our first trophy under Klopp! |
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ufotunang:Make una dey get una fact right before una make comments nah....chai nairaland! He expressed his desire to leave despite Liverpool offering him a new contract! Should Liverpool force him to stay @ 30? |
holluwizzy:@ 30 years? Na wa for una ohh |
Slynation:Guyman you too much! Most of the people here talk without facts...More like beer parlour gist! Why would someone say mane was underpaid because he is an african and black...what a preposterous statement! Is Keita from europe? |
But one mentally deranged nairalander said only Men rape and she asked for proof well here it is! |
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.if buhari removes him and appoint someone competent(maybe from is region as he is more familiar with) ..am sure people like u will wail fulani wan take over.. I can remember when mele kyari,maruwa,sadiq abubakar , bawa amongst others were appointed..Nigerians wanted to vomit blood...those guys now are probably the best to head their various post..especially dat of the NNPC,airforce and NDLEA..
? jota is just an average or below average player that can not control the ball. even if you think jota score more this season, mane is a legend goal scorer. jota ko, joko ni