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dangermous:
So Charly Boy was given a panel too

ROFL
His father was a Chief Justice

tpia:
let me post here so aloy emekraze can contribute.

Im no go show face unless he sees tpia posting on Igbo thread.

This girl you have to admit that you're crazy about emeka.

bawomolo:
Would this committee talk about the Biafran invasion of the Midwestern region? What about the murder of Hausa traders in the Midwestern region.  This thread seems to be centered around Igbo's being victims while the Ijaws should come and beg for forgiveness.

There actions centered around what they thought was best for their people.  I won't argue with that.  They gambled and lost just like Ojukwu. Selfish yes but it wasn't betrayal.  The invasion of the Midwestern region knowing there were no hausa soldiers in the region and region's neutrality is an ACT OF BETRAYAL

You are going way off tangent here.
Someone started a thread on Igbo and Ijaw reuniting and we're saying that the actions of Ijaws up to stolen property has to be addressed for that to take place.
If doing what was best for them is agreeing to take over property belonging to their hard working cousins as compensation then I believe they're now reaping the fruits.

Crude Oil:
Igbos themselves are not even united.

I wonder what that means?
Is there a united tribe anywhere and what are the signs of unity?

naijaking1:
All the questionable historical facts about who and what is Ijaw make little sense given what we already know. This thread was started with a reference to Adaka Boro day celebration, but when you read the article, you find it difficult to pin-point any error or mistakes Boro might have made in his attempt to get even with the Igbos.

No Ijaw person has pointed out that Boro and his colleagues were very poor students of World history, because they should have known that from the Grecco-Roman period to Afonja and the Yoruba king in Illorin, betraying your own people to outsiders never pays off.

@Ibime and others, please address the itemized questions I raised on page 1 of this thread. That is more relevant that all these questionable historical and genetic facts you're suddenly releasing.

Of all the questions, the most burning one is: why did the Ijaws need any form of promise, agreement, or even settlement by other tribes in Eastern Nigeria before they could join in defense of their home land 100%?
Were the Ijaw people blind-sighted by sibling rivalry with their Igbo cousins? Why were they just so gaullible? The Hausa man came down from Kaduna and promised you that if you help him defeat your brother, he would compensate you with his houses and property in Port Harcourt, and they foolishly, gaullibly, and childishly fell for it! Meanwhile Igbo houses in Kaduna and Lagos were safely returned to their owners.

My father built a house in Port Harcourt with his sweat, tears and blood, after the war, the house was occupied by one of the laborers who was close to my father and who knew that he had came from the mainland. The most disheartening aspect was that this Ijaw man refused to release my father's house back to him, and he had the government of the Diette-Spiff for support.

Slavery, genetics, and history are important, but there're more current issues that show the difficulty in normalizing Igbo/Ijaw relationship.

The guy Isaac Boro was an Ijaw hero and a  big fool at the same time.
Here was a student at Nsukka who sought to liberate the Niger Delta and fought against federal forces and was overpowered,a brave man obviously.
Yet during the Nigerian/Biafran war he was stupid enough to have been convinced by the Hausas and Yorubas to fight against his own cousins (Igbos) in a batallion led by Adekunle and the same adekunle and his men murdered him in cold blood.

Back to the abandoned property.
My dad said that before the war,most of the homes in PH were owned by Igbos,everyone spoke Igbo there and that Ijaws worked mainly as labourers and maiguards.
But they were just too glad to betray Igbos with the promise of acquiring Igbo properties if the war was lost by Biafra.
How foolish.
Most,  if not all Ijaws have some Igbo blood in them from intermarriage from way back.
It's not uncommon that any Ijaw man you meet today will tell you his mother, grandma  or great grandma or pa was Igbo.
Greed is a horrible thing.

bawomolo:
betray what, what made you think Ken Saro Wiwa had allegiance to the Igbo, that's like an Egun man accused of betraying Yoruba people. shit doesn't make sense. I find it amusing most Biafra Apologists love to place the failure of Biafra on other southern groups as if most of these groups shouldn't look after their interests.

are we talking about the same man that came on his hands and knees to an ohaneze meeting before he was sent to the great beyond?
go and read

Wind don blow,we don see chicken bakassi!

which one be oje la muon?
wetin be muon?
na Calabar you dey speak abi na Igbo?

Ndipe my brother,you don lose ya job?
this hypothetical question sounds real o
Our God is able

na you talk am

tamme:
Please we will make our own nation,
igbos your wahala is too much

look at this slowpoke
Go and tell that to Col Effiong and the many other Cross riverians that fought and died for Biafra
ewu

asha 80:
I wonder why we are disturbing ourselves.Most guys in the present southsouth want nothing to do with igbos so why bother?

Exactly ma point.
The Igbos in south south  after the war denied they were Igbos and turned their local govt areas into tribes because it was uncool to be from a "defeated" group
Until they need someting from Nigeria and find out the Ijaws will kick them in the groin and they remember to come to Ohaneze and try to identify with their God given roots.
Let everyone answer his fathers name abeg
let's live in peace,that's all

tamme:
How about Yoruba men that marry igbo girls.
does that mean igbo and yoruba's should unite? ewu
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-238608.0.html

see you're already speaking Igbo
The unity has already started
The rest of Nigeria calls you Igbo in case you don't know
Go to Lagos,they'll call you omo Ibo
You better wear the unity with pride ma dear

tamme:
@Osisi

Efik and Ibibio people are not going to unite with igbos, neverrrrrrrrrrr
my people will never

My brothers are already marrying and making babies with many of your women anyway
so we have united already
at least on king sized beds

HeatFusion:
Of what sense does it make to continue to hold on to the past, esp if it damages  the country as a whole?

If all Nigerians still"holds on to that memory" as you do, then I gladly anticipate the fall of Nigerria.

It's easy to call it a memory
I have an aunt that spent over 25 years in probate court trying to get back her late fathers property stolen by Ijaws after the war.
She just recovered it a few years ago
There are many who were not that lucky.
Igbos that fled western and northern Nigeria got their property back after the war yet their next door neighbors called Ijaws stole their hard earned sweat because a rogue governor declared it abandoned.
All Igbos know this history my dear.

Secondly,when Odili the then Rivers state governor wanted to campaign for presidency.
It was the same Ijaw people that maligned him and reminded him he was an Igbo man and thereby couldn't represent the SS as a presidential candidate.
They hate Igbos
We couldn't be bothered by them
we don't need them
they need us

We are not uniting anything.
we only need to leave peaceably with one another period.
The so called abandoned property stolen by Ijaws  and their opportunistic tendencies after the fall of Biafra is still fresh in peoples minds.
Who was the Ijaw leader that betrayed Biafra only to be murdered like a common criminal by Nigerian troops.
You can't unite with people you can't trust.
and people who have innate hatred for your people despite the fact that many of their ancestors are Igbos are not the ideal folks to be uniting with.
The only group of people Igbos should be uniting with if it comes to that are Akwa Ibom and cross river folks i.e Anang,Eket,Ibibio,Efik etc.
We have lived peacably with no betrayal on either side and intermarried for years and have a whole lot in common including looks and festivals

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=239065.msg3516302#msg3516302 date=1235607491]Pls I dont know, say it? your scared? [/quote]scared?
ROFL
stay tuned

You won't escape your own "assasination" bid

tpia:
geez, some Naija guys take the cake for being the worst mannered, utterly immoral things ever to walk this planet.

Is it any wonder they have bad reputations in every country where they're known.

Yet they have this huge swollen ego thinking they're the cream of the crop- this attitude is especially pronounced with the worst eggs among them.

will you then marry a naija woman?
Please take my brothers how you see them.
They are also trainable

Tpia it's obvious there's something between you 2.
It'll be good for the nation jo
say yes

another good Igbo one

is Chai!

o ga di egwu!
O ga dikwa kpo kpo !

I told you people that that comfort of a winch has just one purpose on NL
To post crime news from the SE and SW
Have you seen him contribute anything anywhere else
he doesn't even make comments on his own threads
He can only copy and paste and we all know he's some deranged Ijaw MEND reject from Sagbama named mohadana and pilas 2 years ago

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=239065.msg3516285#msg3516285 date=1235607182]huh? Many Okrikas, kalabaris, igbanis can speak igbo? yes we all know that
so what are you trying to say?[/quote]I'm not trying to say anything you don't already know or sense

Abagworo:
this thread is meant to be on how we should all support Goodluck Jonathan,Orji Uzor Kalu,Peter Odili and Chibuike Amaechi for presidency in 2011 and not about our origins.we should form a formidable force and end the divide and rule amongst us being promoted by nigerian state.

Any Igbo man that denies his Igbo roots like Odili and co will not be supported period!
I'll rather vote for an Ijaw man named Andrew Simon-Hart that's proud of his Ijaw heritage than an Ikwerre man that denies his God given roots

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=239065.msg3516252#msg3516252 date=1235606614]

How did slaves make non-slaves speak their (slave) language?

Lmao thats so easy, intermarriage and trade
apart from the language what else? What other similarities?[/quote]and how come Igbos don't speak Igbani ?

That was why I asked the original question.
Who has ever heard where a few slaves caused a whole community to start speaking their language even hundreds of years later?
Or were these slaves more in number than the indigenes?

I lived in PH and most Opobo,Bonny and Okirika people of my parent's age spoke fluent Igbo
Infact they conversed in Igbo amongst themselves

Mi ye ma ibim ina!! oo

Eastern Ijaws--igbani(opobo and bonny) people, Okrika, kalabaris can speak igbo, [b]because of the presence of igbo slaves during the slave era[/b]the native people.majority of the people speak Ijaw

give me a break
Is that what they teach you guys?
How come they don't speak Efik and Ibibio,were all the slaves in Ubani (Bonny) Igbo?
How come Americans don't speak Igbo,Yoruba and Ijaw if slaves had that much influence on a language of a people such that 300 years later,Igbo is still the dominant native language there.

wasn't jaja of Opobo an Igboman from Imo state area?

Ibime:
Opobo speak Ibani, a dialect of Ijaw.

Ibani just means Bonny (anglicised). There is no difference between Opobo's and Bonny people. Jaja just moved Ana Pepple house from Bonny Island to Opobo and made a new tribe. This was only 140 years ago so there is no divergence between Opobo people and Bonny people in language or culture.

many of them speak Igbo too.
and say ike m for myself
when ike means buttocks in Igbo

Their quarters are riddled with illiteracy and polygamy
And their women start procreating from the age of 9
why won't an illiterate 9 year old produce countless almajiris and almajiresses between the age of 9 and 45 ?

tamme:
thats no excuse, Nigeria is not the only poor country in the world
do we see pple from Ghana, South Africa and senegal doing this stupid act! NO

Nigerian men change

Who is this ignorant individual
So there's no yahozee and crime in Ghana?
Get Nigerian men off your lips before you get stricken with leprosy

Fhemmmy:
Inasmuch as i will not like to group them all together, cos i so much blv there are some of them that are sweet and nice, however, i think something got to be done, and this is all the reason why i think thunder for fire might be a great idea, kill me i kill you God no go vex, or better still, we will ask for forgiveness

I understand.
But how can Cele and Cherubim people be fighting and then they turn around and start killing Methodists?
That's what these Muslims do
One sect is fighting with another and before you know it,they face a common enemy called Christians
This has to stop.