bawomolo:

what makes you think we are loosing sleep over fools who call a preacher Daddy?

and yet y'all carry your ricketty legs in droves to threads where such things are being discussed huffing and puffing.
I hear you indeed.
The jet has already been bought,you can now choke on your periwinkles

MrCrackles:

Fraud and Brainwashing in the name of the lord!

crack cocaine be quiet
don't let me open the can of Islam here,you won't survive it o

can a local govt actually move a mad woman with a baby to live with the alleged father whether he likes it or not?
unbelievable.
but if it's his,let him handle it
it looks like the sex has cured the woman sef
now that she's been delivered of baby Sunday,they should try for Friday his younger brother

The noisemakers can all shut up.
Only the redeemed church congregants should have a say in what happens in their church.

Jetting Out To The Glory Of God
Written by Terver Atsar
Sunday, 22 March 2009
Jetting Out To the Glory of God

Terver Atsar


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A big storm has been generated across the nation with the recent acquisition of a private Jet by the Redeemed Christian Church of God. Many commentators have sought to find fault with the idea of such an expensive acquisition in the face of global economic downturn and the generally high poverty level among the followership of the church and the nation at large. The impression has also been created that the Jet is meant to boost the private comfort of the General Overseer of the Church. A further error is being indulged by suggesting that the General Overseers of the modern churches (Redeemed included) ‘extort’ the members of the Church through false threats of damnation in Hell-fire if they fail to forfeit 10% of their income(s) to the church and that such non-taxable monies are collected and converted to the personal use of the church leaders.

It is not difficult to understand the anger of the ordinary man struggling to survive on meagre resources available to him when he looks around him and sees some fellow human being with two hands, two legs, and two eyes e.t.c just like himself, surrounded with all the good things money can buy. And a not unusual reaction here in Nigeria is to regard such people as either thieves or cultists or both. Such sentiments are further accentuated when the subject personality is a religious leader. Against this background one could sympathise with those calling for ‘Daddy’ Adeboye’s head.

But beyond this, there is no iota of justification whatsoever to begin to rain abuses and invectives on him. Some have even attempted to question his anointing and opined that he should have used the money to feed the poor or to develop infrastructure or better still he should have donated it to motherless babies’ homes. In fact every commentator seems to have a ‘better’ alternative use to which the money should have been put except this ‘bogus ‘acquisition.

I have no idea how the Church raised the money to purchase an aircraft but my submissions in this piece are based on the assumption that the money was sourced through offerings, tithes or freewill donations from members since these are the known channels through which the church is financed. At any point in time if these assumptions become null, for instance if it turns out that the church embarked on an illegal or corrupt practice to acquire this jet then all my conclusions below would become a nullity and I will swallow my words.

The Redeemed Christian Church of God has a very strict policy on appropriation of funds, which requires that money must be spent for the purpose for which it was collected or donated. Therefore corruption and misappropriation of Church funds could be ruled out. If the money for instance was donated by a wealthy member for the purpose of acquiring this craft, the policy of the church does not allow for the money o be diverted to other purposes like feeding the poor or building of hospitals as many a commentator have suggested.

And I happen to know that the Church has not neglected the poor as being portrayed by critics. Offerings are collected monthly for the orphanages. There is a welfare department of the church that cares for the needy. The church also has a Prison visitation ministry. And the Prostitutes are not left out. A wing of the church reaches out to them and attempts to rehabilitate those who are willing to quit the profession. The Missions arm of the church also goes out to the most remote rural communities to preach the Gospel. They carry along foodstuff, clothing, and drugs for the villagers. The church has taken the Gospel to the most hazardous and hostile societies where Islam is a stronghold. All these attract huge financial commitments for which the society has should commend the Church instead of condemnation.

The impression that Pastor Adeboye has acquired the craft, as a status symbol is as erroneous as it is uninformed. Here is a PhD holder who does not even bother to put that in his name. Whereas we have several Bishops and Rev.Dr.Prophet Lagbajas in town the man simply remains ‘Pastor Adeboye’.

For starters, ‘Papa Adeboye’ (as he is fondly called by adherents) does not own the Redeemed Christian Church of God. He is neither the Founder nor the Sole Administrator of the church. The man only joined the Church in 1973, 21 years after the formation of the church and became the leader when the Church was 29 years old after the founder died in 1981. He is only serving a life term in the prison of God as a chief shepherd of His flock. None of the assets acquired by the church (including this jet) is his personal property. To accuse him of materialism or worldliness on account of this is way out unfair.

Even if we assume that he is going to be the sole passenger of the aircraft, (which is most doubtless not the case), has he not paid his dues? Unknown to many of the unkind commentators, this is a man who left a lucrative teaching job with a PhD to take up a (then) ‘undignified’ job of a preacher at a time when the Church (RCCG) had less that 40 parishes with a congregation of less than 10,000. It is not unlikely that many of his colleagues at that time had ridiculed him on account of his religious ‘fanaticism’. No newspaper at that time had considered his sacrificial action a news material.

At the RCCG camp where he stays, there was a time when that place was a thick swampy forest. There was practically no (human) sense in driving 46 kilometres out of the beautiful city of Lagos to stay in a bush camp in the name of religion. At a point he and his wife were sleeping on a bench on that camp. But he believed God wanted him to do just that. And thank God he obeyed. Many of the editors who now take pleasure in casting slurs on him could not have jettisoned their jobs in humble obedience to the voice of the great invisible God.

When he unveiled the almost impossible vision of taking the RCCG to all the nooks and crannies of the earth, I believe many people considered him unserious. Even some members of the Church deserted him when he broke the then tradition of the Church of using primarily the Yoruba Language for ministration. He introduced what is called in the RCCG circles, the ‘Model Parish structure’ where the English Language is used and some worship practices liberalised without compromising the standards of the Bible.

These reforms catapulted the RCCG from a hitherto unknown congregation to a global church with over 10,000 parishes in all the continents of the world. Over one million worshippers attend a Yearly Holy Ghost Congress, which began on the beach of Lekki in 1999 with a theme ‘Divine Visitation’. Indeed since then God has visited the Church in amazing ways. The Holy Ghost Congress remains one of the largest religious gatherings in the world today.

It is important to note that all these achievements did not allow the dangerous virus of pride to settle in the GO’s head. He remains one of the few Christian leaders of his status that can still wear local suits whereas he could easily afford to buy the choicest coats in the world. An epitome of humility, he remains a good model in holiness and blamelessness, which has endeared the congregation to his ministry.

The millions of Redeemed adherents who support the ministry with their time resources are not ‘brainwashed illiterates’ like most commentators have sought to portray them. To the contrary, the church is full of highly educated and exposed men and women with many occupying prestigious positions in virtually all the sectors of the economy. This accounts for the stupendous wealth of the church.

And acquiring a jet is among the least impossible things that God can do for the Church. The Church (not Adeboye) needs that jet to facilitate their evangelistic drive, which has gone global. With the jet, the church can move their materials and missionaries to any part of the world according to their programmes and plans without depending on the flight schedules of commercial Airlines.

Those who believe in God and his power know that it is a small thing for the ‘All-Sufficient-One’ to provide a ‘mere’ jet to his faithful servants. Am sure if you ask papa GO now, he will tell you that God has just started and that he is praying for the time when the Church will own an Airport and not just the Aircraft. After all the Earth belongs to the Lord and the fullness thereof. If we believe that nothing is impossible with God then we should not doubt the sincerity of his servant when God does the ‘impossible’ through him.

The time has come for the church to wake up and occupy the position God designed it to occupy. The church is supposed to rule the world and not the other way round. Interestingly this is not the first private jet in the Nigerian Airspace. Several Banks and oil magnets own private aircrafts but this has not generated much furore. Why have we not compelled these Banks and Oil Operators to divert such monies to social welfare as part of their corporate social responsibility?

God is not averse to working with the rich. The Bible is full of rich men who also used their riches to the service of God. Abraham was a very wealthy man. And he was the father of faith. Had Abraham lived in today’s time, he would have acquired many jets.

It is true that Jesus lived a lowly lifestyle, choosing not to build a house nor own property (because he said his kingdom is not of this world- John: 18:36) but he did not disapprove of the rich in his company either. Joseph of Armethea who later buried Jesus was a very rich man and a disciple of Jesus.

Yes Jesus fed the poor but he did not eliminate hunger from the streets of Nazareth. The poor and hungry will continue to be around for a while. Not buying that jet would not make the poor members of the church or society richer and acquiring it has not made them poorer either.

Having taken the time to ‘exonerate’ Papa Adeboye from blame in his private capacity, the same may not be said about the sensitivity of the Church as a body to the times that we are in. Even the Bible says there is a time for everything under the sun. It is apparent that the timing for the purchase of the Aircraft may have seemed inappropriate due to the prevailing meltdown in the global economy; an issue that has featured prominently in the analysis of most commentators. The impression of insensitivity of the Church leadership to the harsh economic realities that confront the average church member seems to be the take-home message of every observer.

And then there is the issue of excessive parking and maintenance charges the church would incur on the craft. It does not seem to be an economically wise decision. Commercial airlines incur such expenses but as investment which they easily recoup from their passengers. This is not the case with private aircrafts. The chances are that the church membership may now be exerted the more in order to take care of the craft to ensure that it continues to fly to the glory of God.

@ oyb,worlds largest religion by what statistics?
una don begin lie again?
I fear una o

Office toyota corolla you say abi?
una get official car and you're talking
You people are really enjoying
that your little man cute no be small.
I'm sure he got it from his mother

Let the enemy of the gospel always be put to shame.
He shall  stumble and fall.
The Lord will always raise a standard against him.
He shall come against the man of God one way and flee seven ways.
Destructon shall be at his door.

AMEN! My sister, And may God grant all the TRUE Pastors in Nigeria the grace to remain in HIM to the shame of their enemies who are eagerly waiting for them to fall from HIS grace


and so shall it be in Jesus' name

Exactly!
how dare she?
women of nowadays,so disobedient.
I not only wash my ogas clothes right after a manicure
I also clip his toe nails,scratch his back roll up his balls of garri and feed them to him.
Then I kneel beside him and watch the boluses go down his esophagus until they land in the stomach then after that I burp him and say
Nna anyi,what else must I do?

The enemies shall come against Pastor Sunday one way but they shall flee seven ways in Jesus's name

funmi stay there and laugh
You'll get married someday,you better start early to train the man if he doesn't have it in him to take care of kids.
No one is born with nurturing skills innate in them
If a woman can learn to take care of kids,so can a man
Or else you'll be dragging 3 to 5 screaming kids all over the place in your Toyota Highlander
You won't find it funny then.
You'll get wrinkles on  your wrinkles before you know it
worse than the lines on beccomerich's satellite pics
no amount of mary kay foundation will help you
ROFL

419

Ebony-Silk:

@topic
I wonder why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They expect the woman to take the kids with her anywhere she's going. Not bothering to consider babysitting their own kids.

Some Naija men are just pure lazy it's not even funny.

Babysitting your kids has nothing to do with your muscularity.

It actually brings the babies/kids and father more closer together.

Some naija men need to stop acting like cavemen. Seriously

yes o some husbands are just so inconsiderate
and you'll see these women at babyshowers and bridal showers chasing 3 little kids all over the place and looking all mad
What's the point of going?
why can't a woman enjoy a few hours of owanbe and eat her goat meat in peace with her fellow women every now and then without some toddlers clinging unto her wrapper and driving her crazy.
When I go such places,I go alone o
no kids.
I don't want to die young abeg

whitelexi:

Polygamy has been around for a while, where it works - it definitely works. . . In other places however, greed and jealousy turn it into a complete failure. It wasn't rubbish in the days of old, it still isn't rubbish in some parts of the world today. If planned well it certainly will work, and although nobody who has experienced western education and civilization wants to go in that direction [myself included], many would kill to be in one.

It seems the only way to contain man's desire for multiple relationships, and woman's quest to know man's every move

You have absolutely no right as a man to tell us how good polygamy is
Let the women,who are the ones getting done,say so.
Let the kids who are the products of the the wonderful world of polygamy tell you so

This topic has been discussed several times and the consensus was that polygamy was an idiotic thing to do
I strongly agree.

Atreus:

Recently i've begun to wonder whether there's truly anything like rape. To start with,many women today need a lot of help. They dress provocatively,wearin little slips of nothing that leave nothing to the imagination. They wear tight tops with half their boobs spillin out,they wear rily tight pants that show off every shapely contour of their luscious backsides. They tease us,tempt us,errythang 'bout them is a bloody invitation. Their clothes,their strut,body language,errythin's an invitation. See,the problem with u women is that most of u confuse sexy with slutty. U can b wearin a cocoa sack n stil b as sexy as hell, on the other hand,u cld b wearin next to nothin n still have the sex appeal of a flat pancake. Its all about the carriage. But u dont knw that. U constantly sell urselves,and when some guy takes what they so blatantly offered,they scream rape. The sad truth is that many of those raped got what they were asking for,and even worse,some of them were active participants in their supposed 'rapes'. Most of 'em got what they deserved,and i feel no sympathy for such ones.

Let me educate you little brother.
Any time any man forces himself on a woman without her consent,it is called rape.
period.
You cannot excuse it
You cannot condone it
There is absolutely no justification in this world for a man to touch, grope or have carnal knowledge of any woman uninvited.
I won't bother addressing provocative dressing because it didn't start today.
Our forefathers and their wives ran around covered in palm fronds.

Rape is not a crime of passion.
It is a saddistic,selfish crime of power and subjucation.
It has absolutely nothing to do with love.
It's impossible to claim to love someone and inflict them with untold pain that could last them a lifetime.

Do you know that women have committed suicides,ended up in mental institutions because of rape?
Do you also know that some have gone on and lived in shame with poor self esteem the rest of their lives for being violated in such a way
do you know what poor self esteem can do to a woman?
Statistics tell us that most prostitutes and women who settle in abusive relationships were raped as some point in their growing lives.
This is no subject to be trivialized my brother.
one in three women at some point are victims of rape or sexual assault
That's a huge number.
One out of every 3 female responding on nairaland could be a victim.
Think about that
Do you have a mother,sisters,aunts, female cousins,daughters?
One in three,I say
This is no laughing matter

If you forget everything I said,please always remember this phrase,I used prior and I repeat

There is absolutely no justification in this world for a man to touch, grope or have carnal knowledge of any woman uninvited.

compressor:

It beats me too as i had a very funny experience.I had a friend who claimed that a colleague of mine raped her which i really doubt cause the lady is very fat and never screamed or showed any resistance when the guy invited to his room from my room and had sex with her.How could one have raped a big girl like that.

what do you mean?
only skinny girls can be raped because big girls can fight off a rapist?

The woman is still serving time at London's Holloway prison.
They should wait till she's done and deported.
why are they looking for her when OBJ,Atiku,Orji Kalu and IBB,Iyabo,Madam Etteh and several others are walking free.

sorry o I was confusing the mistresses.
It's Amaka,Iboris mistress that's in Holloway

Chioma should be at Okija

Tumfulu

David I wish you understood Igbo
I would have said,hapu onye ara Old park  anunwa ka o gbara oto gbaba na Ogbete market

Nigerian men are too gra gra
una own too much

Oil in Oru?
soon to be Njaba state

*Hauwa*:

ebony yeah, he got them good lips

Ebony-Silk:

Not only the lips. . . .see the body.

Just imagine what it can do

get a hold of yourselves ladies
stop slobbering over Ikomi

ezinne1212:

I don't believe this , we need proof! I don't think things are that bad yet, please!

where is beccomerich?
he may have a satellite photo to prove it

Pataki:

WOW! I must make that place a point of call. Who knows, they just might come in handy.

buy them extra butter too.
chei so girls don cheap like this ?
$400 popcorn and pure water and they'll start following you?
let me warn my brothers

I wish I were a man

shame on any Igbo parents especially living in Nigeria that refuse to teach their kids their language in the name of modernisation.
Modernisation my calloused feet
Spoilt and smile4kenn,you ought to sue your parents for that injustice 
You were born in Lagos and so what ?
TOH has spent most of her life in the USA and can curse you out in Yoruba
what makes you Igbo when you speak Yoruba and English and not your mother's tongue?
Can you even get to your father's compound unaccompanied?
I almost want to shed tears for you two
what a big shame

JustGood:

Although I didn't end up in one, I dont really see anything wrong in it as long as both parties dont mind.

I dont like people who castigate what others do in the belief that whatever is practiced in the west has to be God's will for mankind. How wrong!

I have seen lots of Asian arranged marriages that are like heaven-made marriages.
Each to his/her own

You haven't seen enough.
Many of them are loveless robotic marriages where the choice of the people involved meant nothing
Imagine meeting your husband as a veil is being torn down on the wedding day.
God forbid.
arranged marriages are barbaric
The guests and the matchmaking aunties go home at the end of the day and the poor bride is stuck with Abdullahi,his body odor and his 14 fingers

will you like an arranged marriage? many of us marry through arrangement and it works most of the time thn the one you meet by yourself that you claim to be in love with. why?.

Please speak for your self and your fellow cattle rearers with 9 year old wives in northern Nigeria.
We southerners don't belong in the same locomotive as you folks.

Make we no dismiss this Mr Becomericch just like that o
he may be our future head of state
You heard it here

mr become abeg remember me
Minister of women and child welfare
Lolo Osisi Virginia Odinkenmelu