₦airaland Forum

Agbegbaorogboye:
That's not how it is Bros. The Constitution states that the states should maintain a joint account for the federal allocation. That's why when Buhari tried to pay LG accounts separately, he was taken to court by NGF and judgment went in their favour

What do you mean by joint account? There is nothing like that in reality. What we have is a state government-controlled account into which the federal allocations (state and LGs) are paid. It's not a joint account because the LGs are not signatories to the account and they don't have a say in how the state gov chooses to allocate or use the funds.

And Buhari attempting to pay the LG funds into the LG accounts should tell you the LGs used to have their own accounts for direct federal allocation payment.

The PDP in their evil desire to rule the country for 60 years brought us to this point. The APC government has been working hard to change that.

blancsn1:
I recently returned from Abuja by road and along the way the group I went with conducted a research which is yet to be released to the public but I have a few pointers as to how this election will pane out clearly in the Western North Western and North Eastern state we visited.

I know this might hurt but I want Obidient to know they need more work done, they probably need independent analyst to conduct research as to the electability of Peter Obi. Without beating round the bush our research findings concluded Peter Obi is not expected to record up to 10,000 votes in any of the SW NW NE NC state aside Lagos Abuja Benue where he will surpass that threshold comfortably.

Work need to be done in other state n am telling you a lot of work. Hopefully Peter Obi will not be another Maduka That Alex reporter chop his money with so much social media noise but he only got 2K vote in the election before he was rushed backed to the United States make he no go get cardiac arrest from the street wey dem run am.

Attached is Anamabra Guber election result, Maduka Godwin is number one on the list. Peter Obi is projected to score similar vote across the SW NC NE NE state with exception of state such as Lagos Abuja n Benue.

Another team covers the research in the SE n SS n yes he will have considerable vote over there 10,000 votes in almost all the state there with the hint I received.

For Obi in SW, it would be JAMB-like results... 120, 150, 200, 240, etc.

Agbegbaorogboye:
What I'm hearing is the accounts are for the igr not for federal allocation. Is that correct?

Federal allocations go to the state and the state disburses to LGs/LCDAs accounts.
Before the PDP changed it, LG funds were going directly into the accounts of the LGs from the FG. When the PDP came, the two (state and LGs funds) were lumped together and paid to the states with the expectation that the states would in turn disburse to LGs as required and oversee the the spending. Remember the infamous withholding of the Lagos state's allocation. It was the LG part of the funds that was withheld by OBJ over the LCDAs creation by Bola Ahmed Tinubu (the then Lagos state governor).

zionstaar75:
I will never vote a Muslim Muslim ticket ever even with a gun to my head.Atiku is not even an option,u gerrit??if u don't then fogerrit

It's a Nigerian/Nigerian ticket. There is nothing like a muslim/muslim or muslim/christian ticket. Don't be a religious bigot. Religion won't solve any of our problems as a nation.

AstraDroid:
It is Obi or No more Nigeria.

The reason is because the elites have had their ways and have taken all our oil wealth as their family estates. Then the Buharist in Nigeria, Niger, Chad and Sudan have also had their time, enough time have robbed the oil wealth, bankrupt and deleted NNPC and erase the books to cover their stealing and register a baby nnpc.

Now, it is time for Indigenous Obidient people from all tribes, who have remained obedient until now.

Nigeria will burn if the next election is rigged against the people's choice.

I pity you... Many of you will die for nothing if you jump out to protest or disturb the peace after losing in Feb.

oneMalik:
the assault has begun !

let the attacks continue .

that's what they brought upon themselves !

there's no monopoly of madness .

Omoooo see adjetives !

una don die well for this man hands today .

Bro you need to have a dictionary beside you to appreciate the depth of that piece from Kperogi. Very strong adjectives which appropriately describe the scumbags called Obidients.

zionstaar75:
u are just confirming what he wrote with this response. Thank God I'm an obi supporter not Obidient,they irritate even me that is supporting obi and if they keep this up they'll be Peter obi's downfall sadly. Everyone is tired of them as it is

Can you imagine? Still unfortunate you're Obi supporter though...

Agbegbaorogboye:
You mean Lagos does not operate a joint account? This is the first time I'm hearing it

All LGs and LCDAs in Lagos have their separate accounts. A local government chairman in Lagos doesn't need to go cap-in-hand to the governor for approval and funds to execute a project.

God1000:
This is utterly preposterous and disrespectful to me in particular.

You're a zombidient? Too bad man... a supporter of an incompetent candidate is definitely incompetent. A candidate that can't put together an inspiring manifesto together.

Kwanza:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02TccNKkzQzjnX2umVhs6fKw8nq8B8i9ahhUtt6jCZ2jUbxEABmo49xJhGw3camzkJl&id=47904265

I couldn't agree any more

Larryton:
What a master piece! I can't wait to witness the renewed hope!!

Sincerely, I haven't seen something like this in the history of electioneering in Nigeria. Let the Lagos boy bring to bear the brilliance of Lagosians on country.

Dsalvo:
Bro, how is Tinubu their poster boy? Nigerian politics is national because you have to carry over 300 ethnic groups along in the effort to become President.

How do you want Tinubu to play it when machiavellian and monolithic North must be carried along if any individual wants to be President ?

What you must ask yourself is whether Tinubu, at the hour men must be men, flinched against Buhari or the North.

If you are a fair and objective person then you will admit that Tinubu's action show he is a Nigerian champion. Perhaps the only one we can trust to right the wrongs on behalf of all Nigerians

GBAM!

davillian:
Lies
Same lies he drafted for buhari
Is the same lies he is drafting for himself

Tinubu didn't draft manifesto for Buhari and he wasnt even part of Buhari government - he was fenced out.

ryloy:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UtMYl9SahIay5-eFhp0u9lWSYs4gxWyJ/view?usp=drivesdk

The best I have ever seen. Others (Atiku, Obi, Sowore, etc) are just mere jesters. They should endorse Tinubu and save us the headache and cost of conducting the election

Agbegbaorogboye:
I don't understand. Was there anytime PDP ruled Lagos?
I strongly disagreed that it was OBJ who put LGs under states. What I pointed out to you is that it's both sides that killed the LG. If you say it's a PDP strategy, why did the APC embrace and even strengthened it while countering Buhari when he attempted to give the LGs full financial autonomy? They even took him to court!!

What I am saying is, till today, the allocations of LGs (from FG) and LCDA (from LASG) go to them unlike what we have in other states where LGs can't execute any project because the governors are sitting on their funds.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Did Russians tell you that? You think Russia is the only European nation there's not a member of EU? Britian left with Brexit remember?
NATO is not necessarily a passport to becoming an European country

Geographically, of course, Russia is in Eastern Europe but in the everyday human sense of Europe, Russia is on its own and still prefers to be seen as belonging to the soviet union - USSR.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Not true. I already gave you examples of Fayemi. Oyetola just conducted a sham LG election last week. Both Oyetola and Fayemi are APC.
Are the LCDAs in Lagos financially and administratively independent?

In Lagos, the LGs and LCDAs are funded just like it used to be before the PDP came. You named Fayemi to shift the blame and make it look like a collective decision. It was a PDP strategy which the governors liked because it puts them too in control of the local governments and also puts more money in their pocket.

Agbegbaorogboye:
When did I say OBJ empowered LGs?
It's also flat out not true that OBJ put LGs under states? Was it OBJ who created LCDAs? Fayemi said sometimes last year that the Constitution does not recognize LGs as federating units. It is govs that killed LGs. Successive govs be it APC or PDP or even APGA under Obi.
What left LGs in abject poverty is joint allocation account under the direct supervision of the govs.

Putting LGs under the state was a strategy by the PDP government to control, politically, the country. So, all they needed to do was capture the state. Once that is done, all the LGs are captured. LCDA creation was a good initiative which the OBJ PDP went against because it was against their crude political plan to subdue and castrate the local governments.

Agbegbaorogboye:
I would think we will be more concerned about gas for domestic consumption before stretching our necks to Europe. How do we become a production economy without energy?
How do we get clean energy to our homes and preserve the environment from church rats who eat poisoned holy communion if we can't get affordable and available cooking gas to our people. Charity should begin from home.

See, most of those countries along the Sahara have very high gas reserves too. Nigeria, Algeria, Egypt, Libya have the highest gas reserves in Africa. Egypt, Libya and Algeria are closer to Europe than we are

Russia, Iran, Qatar have highest gas reserves in the world, far higher than Nigeria's and are closer to Europe.

Wait. Is Russia not an European country? I don't understand.

Russians don't see themselves as part of Europe. The reason we're talking about fight over Ukraine joining European Union or NATO

Agbegbaorogboye:
That he did not promise resource control means he has betrayed fiscal federalism he used to argue for against OBJ and PDP

Empowering states and LGs is not a new idea. OBJ did it. 13% derivation is also an offshoot of that. What states like Akwa Ibom wanted and never got is resource control. Same with Lagos. If Tinubu will not even entertain the idea, how is he different from Buhari?

OBJ didn't empower local governments. As a matter of fact, Obj put the local governments under the state for political reasons. That was what killed the local government, taking government away from the people and leaving local governments in abject poverty.

Agbegbaorogboye:
It makes practically no economic sense for a country thousands of miles away from Europe to build a gas pipeline when countries like Morocco and Egypt that are closer to them have not. Like I said, do a cost benefit analysis of that and see if it can work. No serious financial institution will support it. What you're saying is that you want to compete with the Nord Stream pipeline. Do you realize Russian gas is the cheapest in the world?

Where is the pipeline? Who is building it? And to which country exactly is it being built?

Nigeria needs to ramp up her crude production to meet her quota and make money. We are not making money as we should from crude production you are talking about gas! Qatar and Dubai are closer to Europe than we are and they also have gas. It makes no economic sense to base our economic recovery on a gas pipeline to Europe

What do you think is the distance between Russia and most European countries? Also what you don't know is there are many other countries along the path from Nigeria to Europe and many of them have even made commitments to purchase gas from us when completed. Therefore, while Europe is the final destination, there are many other consumers along the way from Niger to North African countries to Mediterranean countries and finally to European countries. When completed, we won't have to flare gas again.

Agbegbaorogboye:
That means ultimately Tinubu is not coming to do anything different from what Buhari is doing then. Cause Buhari blamed NASs for his inability to perform in his first term.

It also seems as if you have not read the manifesto because he has constitutional review under Federalism, page 69 exactly. So what you are saying is Tinubu is promising what he cannot fulfill.

It is also interesting he is talking about social investments like conditional cash transfer and other social investment programs which will ultimately increase our deficit and debt. You see why I said he is not in tune with our present realities? Same social investment that have become an eyesore under this govt!!

Tinubu didn't promise resource control or whatever you call it. He only promised to empower the states and local government financially through the restructuring of federal allocations.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Before COVID, Nigeria was already battling inflation. Other countries were Ok. True. But COVID was not the cause of inflation. Inflation occurred as a result of countries printing money to finance their budgets. Nigeria also did same despite our already biting inflation.

Good you agree Ukraine war should have been a blessing to us now. But you missed it by blaming 16 years of PDP. Why will PDP build a gas pipe to Europe? At what cost? Can Nigeria compete with Russian gas supply to Europe?

In 2011-2014, we benefitted from high oil prices despite not habing a gas pipeline to Europe. So what changed that we need a gas pipeline before we can benefit from rising global oil prices like other oil producing countries.

Newsflash. Under this govt, Angola overtook Nigeria as the top oil producer in Africa. Angola don't have a gas pipeline to Europe. This is a bumbling failure of a govt. Simple!!

With the right financing, we could have done it. Where would the money have come from? Yet, Obj gave billions of dollars away in the name of debt repayment even when we needed money to build a good country. Today, we're building the pipeline. Where did the government get the money from?

The unveiling of the manifesto is currently ongoing. Watch it here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43JDhgf45sI

Agbegbaorogboye:
Resource control, Fiscal federalism, State policing, decentralization of govt powers, LG and judiciary autonomy, regionalization etc. I suspect it is wilful ignorance on your part to claim not to know what restructuring is. Same restructuring your party shouted all over the airwaves pre-2015.

All those requires constitutional amendments. A president can't just promise that... it goes beyond him and requires the agreement of all the federating units. Even if we the southerners say we want resource control and the northern states say NO, it is NO. So, we need to be guided and pursue it diplomatically.

Agbegbaorogboye:
No. I disagree. Go back and check the figures. Inflation was already prevalent before Ukraine happened. Ukraine only worsened it.

One also wonders what concerns Nigeria's inflation with Ukraine

Bro, there was COVID-19 lockdown which wrecked the economy of most countries. It actually started from that.

Of course, the war in Ukraine should have been a blessing to Nigeria but we didn't make the right investment and position ourselves for a time like this. Now, we're just building a pipeline to convey our gas to europe. We should have done that during the 16 years of the PDP.

Also, we import about 40% of the grains we consume from Ukraine/Russia. It's unfortunate despite all the expansive farmland we have.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Turning Nigeria into a production economy does not necessarily deal with inflation. Most industrialized nation of the world are also battling with inflation presently. What being a production economy does is provide jobs (which can even worsen inflation if not properly balanced) and increase govt revenue in terms of taxes and royalties.

It seems you view the production economy as a one-size-fits-all panacea. That will be narrow and wrong. It will do us a lot of good no doubt but will not solve our immediate problem which as I said, is inflation and public debt. For Tinubu to not realize that shows he is not in tune with our present realities

If the US, UK, and Europe are not fighting a war (in Ukraine) that is affecting energy supply, we won't be talking about inflation at this time in those countries.

Again, it is all about demand and supply.

Currently ongoing... e sweet us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43JDhgf45sI

Agbegbaorogboye:
Oh Ok. I understand you now. But he did not identify any fundamental issue that is causing the inflation, neither did he propose any solution to the structural issues of our macroeconomics such as weak exchange rate, cost of governance, debt management, cost of living etc.

So you are still agreeing that he is not thinking about Nigeria's present challenges like I said

He did... He can't talk about inflation in isolation. He talks about turning Nigeria into a production economy (through industrialization) where we export more and import less. Into a country where we produce what we need.

RelevantUpdates:
“We will remove import and forex restrictions and insist on a single forex market. The current system penalizes exporters, who bring in forex by forcing them to sell at a rate that they are unable to source for forex when they need to purchase forex. This multiple exchange rate regime encourages capital flight and deters investment, which has further worsened Nigeria’s forex situation.”

“We are spending more on recurrent expenses, and we are borrowing frivolously. I am not against loans per se; but we must stop borrowing for consumption. All loans must be invested in regenerative projects. We must operate within available resources and strive for a balanced national budget as cost saving measures. Ending the leakages – including the subsidy regime and improving our tax regime, should do the magic.”

The manifesto adds, “We shall ensure that in moving Nigeria forward, no state or community will be left behind. Pursuant to its statutory responsibility to protect, our government will promote equity in power and resource sharing. The federating units will enjoy discernible autonomy. Resources will also be shared equitably. A higher derivation paid to oil or solid minerals producing states will not be tantamount to other states not receiving federal allocations that should keep them viable. We must transcend the rhetoric that bedevils a robust debate on some of these national questions.

“We will respect the principles of federal character, affirmative action and gender balance; but no longer at the expense of merit.”

Where is the manifesto?

Penguin2:
APC failed woefully in all the things they promised.

Incase you’ve forgotten, APC campaigned on 3 cardinal point… Security, Economy and Corruption.

Would you say that security is better today than when Buhari was sworn in?

Can you say that the economy is better today than when Buhari was sworn in?

Can you say corruption has been reduced to below what it was when Buhari was sworn in?

Must we continue to make excuses for Buhari’s failure with global economic issues?

You think you can solve economic issues without addressing infrastructure issues first? You can't build something on nothing and your economy can't operate in a vacuum. Also, our economy is not yet insulated from the global economic headwinds and therefore, most of what we complain about are not caused by local problems - COVID, War in Ukraine, etc. Even in France today, everybody is on the streets protesting and asking their government to do something. UK and US are facing similar crisis as we speak.

Regarding security, yes is better today than 2015. It's unfortunate that we forget so soon.

- Boko haram were attacking places in Abuja (e.g. UN building, Thisday office, etc) killing many people
- Boko hara even attacked Aso Rock villa
- Bomb blast in Kano, Burno, etc used to happen daily pre-2015
- Boko haram already annexed 17 local government and mounted their flags there
- Kidnapping was also even happening in Lagos here at the time

I can continue to list.