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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Barcelona Vs Bayern Munich : UCL (2 - 8) On 14 August 2020 by OtemAtum: 10:55pm On Aug 14, 2020
Chrisrare:
This game shows how underated van dijk is. Had all these bayern attackers in his pockets when liverpool played bayern last season
Bayern of last season isn't the same we have now. Liverpool of UCL last season isn't also the same we have now.
Science/Technology › Re: Terror Crocodiles With Banana-Sized Teeth Preyed On Dinosaurs 82 Million Yrs Ago by OtemAtum: 8:58pm On Aug 14, 2020
Notatribalist:
How old is the author of the book?
The book has many authors. Some of them are beings who existed billions of years back. Some of them have even been worshipped as God Almighty in different parts of the earth. Check out Atum, Ra, Odin, Olorun, etc. These are some of the authors of the book, then ultimately, Otem is given the authority to compile it and make it known to the world in this AGE OF AQUARIUS.
Science/Technology › Re: Terror Crocodiles With Banana-Sized Teeth Preyed On Dinosaurs 82 Million Yrs Ago by OtemAtum: 7:25pm On Aug 14, 2020
Notatribalist:
82 million years ago,make una dey deceive una self.
This comment is made in ignorance. Have you read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY covering the histories of the earth for 4.2 billion years? You didn't read history and you just arrived at a conclusion. cool

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Can't Comment On Muslim related Topic. by OtemAtum: 5:36pm On Aug 14, 2020
Sikay19:
Well, It is definitely because you christians on this space are hateful, intolerant and unreasonable. Your people finds it difficult overlook muslim threads without dropping comments. They come around to make silly comments on islamic threads. Show me a muslim comment on christian thread and i will show you hundreds of christian comments on muslim threads. Why must you comment on muslim threads. Be like muslims who does not comment on christian thread then you will not necessarily need to swear an oath. #Peace.


God bless Seun Osewa !

God bless Nairaland !!

God bless NL members !!!
In real life that many of you Muslims are violent and terrorists, were you barred from going near Christians or staying in the same place where the Christians are gathered? Well, what is my own business sef as Allah and Jehovah, the gods of both religion are currently in a spiritual cage? huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Model Revealling The Spiritual Cage Of Jehovah, Allah And Other Religious Gods by OtemAtum: 5:17pm On Aug 14, 2020
gensteejay:
Wow. Thanks for the insightful response. I really appreciate it.

Some people claim to have seen aliens here on earth.

Could they be making such things up since you said aliens can't/don't exist in a physical body like ours?

Also, you once said you're bringing Seriot back into the modern world.

Why do you want to bring the language back?
As I earlier said, human beings can mistakenly get into an altered state of consciousness that can make them see into other earth realms briefly. Just like in OBE where everything looks real, same way it looks real. But the people may not actually know that at one point or the other, their state of consciousness was altered before they saw whatever they claimed they saw. I don't know if it is ever happened to you that you just suddenly jerk yourself as if you were falling asleep earlier. That's what happens sometimes. It occurs like hallucinations but not all hallucination-like events are actually hallucinations.
Concerning bringing the Seriot Language back, I actually take interest in the beauty of it. Also because that's the original form where I got most of the texts from.
Christianity Etc › Re: Model Revealling The Spiritual Cage Of Jehovah, Allah And Other Religious Gods by OtemAtum: 1:51pm On Aug 14, 2020
Xioxing:
I want to send you a private message please.
You can only reach me on otem2016@gmail.com. Thanks a lot.
Education › Re: 12 Animals That Can Stay Without Food For A Long Time by OtemAtum: 1:50pm On Aug 14, 2020
Azurevermillion:
english called the supreme being GOD. You are something else i swear grin
Yes, but what is that SUPREME THING? Is it Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Vishnu, El, Atum, Chaleb, Abassi, etc? You know that all these characters I mention above do not have same stories about them. That's where you should know that they are different beings. Also, you should ultimately know that all these characters are not in any way close to what God Almighty is all about. They are all localized gods and not Almighty God. Almighty God is the TOTALITY of Existence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Model Revealling The Spiritual Cage Of Jehovah, Allah And Other Religious Gods by OtemAtum: 1:21pm On Aug 14, 2020
gensteejay:
Please, I have some other questions.

1. Who are aliens in your own view?
2. What do you think about the existence of aliens on earth (especially currently)?
3. Are aliens real?
4. If so, are they hiding from us?
5. Why do scientists and world's governments dismiss alien and UFO reports? Why do say they don't exist?

Thanks a lot.
Aliens are extraterrestrial beings. We all become aliens to the earth after dying and leaving our bodies behind. There will never be a physical alien in our type of realm here on earth because without the physical body, they cannot live in our own realm on earth. Any alien that comes near the earth or to the earth will have to be invisible by default because the kind of realm he is in is different from ours and we will only see them if perchance or by OBE we get into their own realm. What they show to us in films when somebody dies and his spirit is leaving the body is very real. That spirit already becomes an alien to our world and will not be physical to those around. Some spirits roam about on earth for a long time in their own invisible realm, thinking that they are still alive. They depart when they finally realise that they are dead. Science will never accept what it has not scientifically proven to be true by series of experimentations that must yield same or almost same results at all time. That's why it will be very difficult for scientists to agree to their existence. But the good thing about science is that in a far away future, they will invent a device that can see into other realms, same way they designed microscope that can see into the realm of microorganisms. Do you know that we have more than 500 realms on earth here with living beings like us in them? Each realm performs its own activities independent of the others. That's why I don't usually want to talk about aliens too much because they are not to worry about. We go to other realms of earth during Lucid dreamings.
Christianity Etc › Re: Model Revealling The Spiritual Cage Of Jehovah, Allah And Other Religious Gods by OtemAtum: 12:38pm On Aug 14, 2020
Xioxing:
Hello otem please I have been trying to communicate with you... Please can you reply�
Hello
Education › Re: 12 Animals That Can Stay Without Food For A Long Time by OtemAtum: 12:38pm On Aug 14, 2020
Azurevermillion:
What do u call GOD In your language? Learn to reason like LEARNED LITERATE not AN EDUCATED ILLITERATE
It's not about what we call God in your language, it's about what exactly is God Almighty? None of the gods you have ever known is qualified as God Almighty. Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Vishnu, Abassi, Chukwu, Olorun, Siva, Brahma, Ahura Mazda, El, Enlil, Enki and thousands of others you humans have ever regarded as God Almighty are just early beings created by God Almighty. They do not make up to 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001% of God Almighty in combination. May the Light of GOD ALMIGHTY reveal the truth to you someday.
Islam › Re: Hijrah 1442AH: Ruling On Offering Congratulations At The Beginning Of The Year by OtemAtum: 12:23pm On Aug 14, 2020
motayoayinde:
GIBBERISH
In your opinion though cool
Islam › Re: Hijrah 1442AH: Ruling On Offering Congratulations At The Beginning Of The Year by OtemAtum:
Here is a little history of the start of Islam and how GLOBAL TERRORISM started

Common Era II 2: 1- 18

Chapter Two
1. Now these are some of the names of the people who upheld the religion of Mohammad from the sixth century of the common era to the tenth century;

2. Abu Bakr, Hasan, Umar, Abd Wahabi, Ali, Al-Khattab, Affan, Uthman, Aban, Al-As, Rukayya, Husain, Marwan, Abd Malik, Al-Walid, Sulaiman, Mohammad(son of Maslamah), Abd-Aziz, Abd-Talib, Maslamah, Muawiyah, Yazid, Ahnaf;

3. At-Tai, Al-Kadir
Abd-Rahman, Aisha, Utaik, Fadra, Qareeba, Kuhafah, Abu Jafar, Al-Faruk, Bishr, Ayyub, Al-Zubar, Zinba, Ammar, Bassit, Hisham, Ibrahim, Awf, As-Saffah, Al-Mansur, Al-Mahdi, Al-Hadi, Al-Rashid, Al-Amin, Nafir, Al-Muti, Aamir;

4. Al-Mustafi, Muhsin, Hilal, Manzur, Al-Wakidi, Jada, Yasir, Jarir, Mamun, Al-Mutasim, Al-Wathiq, Al-Mutawakkil, Ukba, Haheem, Mamar, Al-Muntasir, Al-Mutazz, Talha, Kathir, Kasim, Al-Muthana, Al-Khadim, Jafri, Al- Al-Muhtadi, Al-Mutamid, Ubaidhullah, Al-Muktafi, Al-Muktadir, Al-Qahir, Thabit, Ar-Radi, Al-Muttaki, Atham, Kawla, Jabla Abdi and many others.
5. All these people caused many wars and fought many battles, killing and oppressing millions of people who did not accept their religion.
6. This is the origin of religious terrorism. For many of these people were against formerly established authority, fighting to oppose every good law made in their territories.
7. They forced people to accept Islam and killed those who refused them.
8. They turned many into widows and widowers, destroyed property, raped little children and forced young girls into very early marriages, according to the deeds of Mohammad when he was alive.
9. Now the leader of the people named Uthman made himself strong. And he said, Umar was strong, but I am stronger.
10. Therefore let every iron submit to me, for I am here to bend every unbendable.
11. I will ignite the fire of violence upon the unbelievers ten times more than Mohammad and Umar put together.
12. Let the beasts of the jungle hear my voice and flee.
13. Now Uthman called Rukayya his wife and said, your father killed a thousand people for Allah, but I shall kill a million.
14. Now Uthman was very rich, because he was a merchant before becoming the leader of the people.
15. Now in the days of Uthman, the people of his land enjoyed more wealth than in the days of Abu Bakre and Umar, because he made sure more money was allocated to the people.
16. However, he put much more resources into warfare, fighting and killing the unbelievers in different lands.
17. Now when Uthman was the ruler of the people, the people of Makran rebelled, saying, we shall no more be under the rulership of Uthman.
18. Now when Uthman heard this saying, he sent armies to the land to destroy it. So Makran was subdued with great bloodshed.
Islam › Re: Hijrah 1442AH: Ruling On Offering Congratulations At The Beginning Of The Year by OtemAtum: 11:10am On Aug 14, 2020
khaffi2:
This your generalisation is wrong. Some kids do it doesn't mean all Muslim kids do. Irrespective of religion, some parents train their kids badly. Your hate for ISLAM is glaring. But just like I do tell even my fellow Muslims, both religions were there before we were born and will keep being there after we die, whether we like it or not. LIVE AND LET'S LIVE.
It's true that both Christianity and Islam were around before we were born, but the fact is that there will be a diminishing returns on both of them as their gods Allah and Jehovah are currently held in a spiritual cage where the gods of science have captured them in, and they will remain there for about 996 years more. Peace cool
Islam › Re: Hijrah 1442AH: Ruling On Offering Congratulations At The Beginning Of The Year by OtemAtum: 11:06am On Aug 14, 2020
Is this the calendar of your forefathers? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Will Jehovah Remain In His Spiritual Cage? by OtemAtum(op):
It is 996 years 1 week and 5 days left for Jehovah to remain in his spiritual cage.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op):
Jehovah has spent 3 years, 11 months, 2 weeks and 3 days in his spiritual cage. Many are losing their religion daily.
Christianity Etc › Re: 1,200 Yr Old Cross Found In Pakistan Implies Christianity Was There Before Islam by OtemAtum: 11:56am On Aug 13, 2020
OLAADEGBU:
The religion where you believe that you have chained the God of the Bible in your cage. shocked
It is not a religion, it is just a history of reality. cool
Christianity Etc › Re: A Blasphemer Put To Death: Leviticus 24:10-16 by OtemAtum:
kingxsamz:
Lol, you people are funny.
So God sent his son to die for him so that he can abolish the law he himself created.
Abeg. grin
One of them even said that fictitious Jesus came to amend the law. That means that the law of their god is not perfect. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: A Blasphemer Put To Death: Leviticus 24:10-16 by OtemAtum:
See what Jehovah(Mosheh) did in his lifetime. Death sentence for making fun of him. Now people's eyes are opening. Jehovah and his 'holy spirit' are in trouble in our generation.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Will Jehovah Remain In His Spiritual Cage? by OtemAtum(op): 11:47am On Aug 13, 2020
felzokugo:
Its related...read between the lines.
Okay
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Will Jehovah Remain In His Spiritual Cage? by OtemAtum(op): 9:40am On Aug 13, 2020
It is 996 years 1 week and 6 days left for Jehovah to remain in his spiritual cage.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op):
Jehovah has spent 3 years, 11 months, 2 weeks and 2 days in his spiritual cage. Many are losing their religion daily.
Christianity Etc › Re: History And Compilation Of The Holy Quran by OtemAtum: 6:00am On Aug 13, 2020
The Quran was changed from time to time. Uthman changed the Quran as well as other caliphs after him. Las Las, Quran is not anything near the Book of God Almighty. It's a mere book containing the philosophies of Allah, who is one little creature of God Almighty, same as Jehovah.
Christianity Etc › Re: Let The Dead Bury Their Dead by OtemAtum: 5:56am On Aug 13, 2020
The statement is spoken out of great height of selfishness. It is very rude of fictitious Jesus to have said such. How on earth do you not consider other people's need just because of followership? This is to show that people are desperate to have followers without considering the needs and desires of their followers.
Christianity Etc › Re: Church History by OtemAtum: 5:48pm On Aug 11, 2020
Let me help you with the Church History from the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY, starting from when Paul the Apostle formulated Christianity till the times the Christians killed early scientists in multitude.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 5:35pm On Aug 11, 2020
Chapter Fifteen
1. Now Mukhtar had many men, numbering up to forty thousand in Kufa. He also had men iwhoMecca and other places which were under the rule of Islam.
2. Now on a certain day, Mukhtar led his forces to Basra and they conquered the forces of Musab, the governor of Basra. Then Musab left his seat and fled to Mecca, to Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr who was his brother.
3. Now when Abdullah saw him, he said, why do you flee? Return now and take up your seat? Only a coward ruler will flee from his own seat.
4. I will support you with thirty-thousand soldiers, then you shall return to take up your seat.
5. Now Mukhtar continued to progress in his deeds. Then he went after the Ummayads who killed Hussein, the son of Ali.
6. Now Mukhtar took hold of fifty-two Ummayad fighters who were of the Sunnis and brought them to a land which he had purchased in Kufa.
7. Then he commanded, saying, let their heads be chopped off, for they have been chosen as scapegoats to bear the death of Hussein whom they killed.
8. Now when Mukhtar had done this, he was satisfied. Then he proceeded to ordain Mohammed the son of Ali as the caliph in Kufa.
9. But when they had searched for Mohammed, the son of Ali, they could not find him, because he had departed to the city of Yemen to live a solitary life there.
10. Now there were some who advised Mukhtar that he should become the caliph if the people of Ali would not avail themselves to be caliphs.
11. When Mukhtar had thoroughly considered the offer, he declared himself as the caliph, but the Shiites were strictly against it. He also declared al-Mustafi his younger brother the governor of Basra, but many people rejected his decision and protested.
12. Then some said, Mukhtar is an imposter. He fought for himself under the name of Mohammed, the son of Ali.
13. Now we have seen the real secret behind all his agitations all these years. So twenty-five thousand faithfuls departed from Mukhtar such that he lost military strength.
14. Then Musab, the governor of Basra who once fled, returned with the fighters which Abdullah his brother had given him.
15. Then they fought hard and recovered the governorship seat after killing al-Mustafi. Now when Mukhtar saw that he had been defeated, he began to flee.
16. Then Musab said, let him not escape. If he does, then your lives will go for his. So they chased Mukhtar and killed him in a mosque at Basra.
17. So did the brother of Abdullah, the son of al-Zubayr recover the seat. Then he sent 100,000 dirhems to his brother, saying, receive it as a token of my appreciation.
18. Now in those days,five thousand Shiites arose and protested before the court of Musab. Then he took hold of them and kept them captive.
19. Now while Musab ruled as the governor of Basra, ten elders of the Shiites came to him and said, we plead with you, release our people whom you have taken captive.
20. Now the names of the ten elders of the Shiites are Abbas, Mujahid, al-Khadim, Sherif, Usman, Khalil, Mohammed, al-Basit, Taofik and Basrat(the only female among them).
21. Then they said, we have come to seek you for two things. First, that you should release the five thousand Shiites in your custody to us.
22. Second, that you should grant your support for Ali, the son of Hussein to be declared as the caliph.
23. For this Ali whom we speak about is not someone who will contend with you for anything. He shall not be a threat to your position as the governor.
24. He is only a writer of good words and a moral man. Let him be declared as the caliph, for this will please many people here in Basra, in the whole of Iraq, in Iran, Mecca, Medina, Egypt and all Islamic states.
25. Now Musab said, for the first request I will honour because you have come to me in a humble disposition. But for the second request, it is not in my power to do it.
26. But I will speak to the right person and if he permits, then I shall do it.
27. So Musab released the five thousand Shiites in his custody, but when he consulted Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr his brother over the appointment of Ali as the caliph, he rejected blatantly, saying, how do you bring such request to me?
28. Can two caliphs live together without sharp contentions? How can I be a caliph and the Alids be caliphs at the same time? Will Islam not be well divided by so doing?
29. Now Musab told the Shiites that the request they made was not accepted.
30. Then the Shiites said to themselves, why do we continue to cower under others? We declare Ali, the son of Hussein the imam, for he is the Mahdi whom we expect to unite Islam again.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 5:33pm On Aug 11, 2020
Chapter Fourteen
1. Now when Mukhtar had used the name of Mohammed the son of Ali to gain support from the Kufites, he got ready to fight against Musab, the governor of Basra who was the brother of Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr.
2. Now when Mukhtar had sought for more support in Kufa, the people said, we belong to the force of Tawwabin and we have pledge our allegiance to Suleiman the son of Surad Khusa. We have vowed to be united to fight the Ummayads to avenge the blood of Hussein, the son of Ali.
3. Now Mukhtar went to seek after Suleiman. Then when they had met, he said, my brother, I am glad that you have formed a group like this, having thousands of members. But let it be known to you that the Ummayads armies are skilled in warfare.
4. Therefore let me join you to train the people you have gathered in battle. Then we shall be able to rise against the Ummayads and conquer them. Now Suleiman said, if you join yourself to me, many of my people will withdraw from being in the Tawwabin.
5. Have they not heard how you went after Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr at Mecca to say, let me be offered a lofty position in your administration? For the son of al-Zubayr was a traitor who gave Hussein into the hands of the Ummayads who killed him.
6. Now Suleiman rejected the offer of Mukhtar and continued to gather people to his group. Now Mukhtar went in the name of Mohammed, the son of Hanaffiyah (the wife of Ali) and got the support of many.
7. Now on a day when the Tawwabin gathered in the town of Suleiman to have a meeting, Mukhtar sent five hundred well-trained fighters to their midst. And he had said to the fighters, dress like the Ummayad soldiers and go among the Tawwabins.
8. Make sure you all escape untouched, but make sure you are able to capture and also kill some of the Tawwabins.
9. Now five hundred fighters of Mukhtar went into the midst of the Tawwabins who were about ten thousand in number.
10. Now they hid in the dark places and captured eighty two out of the one hundred and fifteen leaders of the Tawwabins. Now these were some of the names of the Tawwabin leaders they captured: al-Rasaq son of Awf, Ar-Radi son of Mukhail, Atham son of Umar, Malik son of Hashim, Karim son of Usman, Mohammed son of Jabar.
11. Now those who tried to resist them were killed. Now in all, the fighters of Mukhtar who died were five out of five hundred, while the Tawwabins who died were four hundred and fifty eight, while eighty-two of their leaders were captured.
12. Now in the morning when it was made known that some intruders secretly entered the gathering of the Tawwabins and had captured eighty-two of their leaders, many of the people began to panic, saying how can few Ummayad fighters be able to gain access to this place un captured, such that they took away eighty-two of our leaders?
13. So many of them departed, saying, we will not present ourselves to be killed by the Ummayads when we do not have the assurance that we would be able to conquer them.
14. Now when the Ummayads heard the news, they did not deny the minor attack against the Tawwabins. For they thought that the Tawwabin forces would give up their fight against them by the thing which they had experienced.
15. Mukhtar also kept silent about the attack, but he went to lure many of the members of the Tawwabins to his side, saying, if you still love Ali and you have chosen to fight for him, then join my force.
16. Let us overcome the Ummayads together and make Mohammed the son of Ali the Imam, because he is the Mahdi who will rescue Islam from the hands of civil wars which has arisen within its system since the death of Mohammed the prophet.
17. So many of the faithfuls of the Tawwabin joined Mukhtar until he had multitude of people. But some of the Tawwabins remained with Suleiman, pledging their allegiance and loyalty to him.
18. Now the Tawwabins got themselves ready, then they went to the grave of Hussein and wept over it, saying, we Kufans are sorry for not offering you enough protection when you were killed at Karbala.
19. Forgive us of our trespass and let your spirit be with us as we go against the Ummayads tomorrow morning. Hussein, son of Ali, request on our behalves the support of Allah so that we could conquer the Ummayads and avenge your death.
20. Let us not be put to shame in this battle. Work with us, even though we are not very many. Grant to us the strength which you granted to Mohammed the prophet in his days.
21. Now after the prayer, the people went to battle with the Ummayad army at the early morning of the day. Then the Ummayads attacked them, being more than three times the population of the Tawwabins.
22. Then Suleiman and Rifa, the leaders of the Tawwabins were killed with three thousand others while many others were held captive. So the Ummayads destroyed the Tawwabins and they could not rise again.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 5:31pm On Aug 11, 2020
Chapter Thirteen
1. In those days, the religion called Islam had experienced perpetual wars within its own system because of the strife for power and control. Many sects had arisen, but the major sects were the Sunnis and the Shias.
2. For the Sunnis accepted the caliphate of the first three caliphs who were Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman while the Shias did not accept their reign, rather, they said that Ali was the first caliph they recognised.
3. Also the group called Kharijites had gained much strength, killing from time to time and planning to kill.
4. Now when Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr had become a caliph in Mecca, he did not remember Mukhtar to give him the position which he had promised him. Then Mukhtar approached him, saying, now that you have assumed power, do fulfill your promise.
5. Then Abdullah said, who does not know you, Mukhtar and your wrongdoings? To offer you a position in my administration will only attract many enemies to me. Therefore I will have nothing to offer you other than the position of a mere messenger.
6. When Mukhtar heard the hostile words of Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr, he departed Mecca with much grief. Then he vowed to become his enemy forever. Now Mukhtar journeyed to Kufa, saying, I shall return to the family of Ali and give them my support.
7. Now when he had reached Kufa, he called for a meeting among the Kufites and made sure the family members of Ali were mostly present. Then he began to motivate them. Then he said, O people of Ali, you have all slept.
8. Awake from your sleep and take up what belongs to you. Fight for your right. The caliphate is your birthright, therefore go for it. Do not be weak or feebleminded. Fight with the last drop of your blood.
9. Reclaim the seat of the caliph and save Islam from doom once again. I have seen a vision. I have seen a Mahdi(saviour) arise from the lineage of Ali. He shall make Islam right again.
10. Now Mukhtar went to the place where Mohammed the son of Ali was seated and he said, you are the Mahdi which Allah our god has chosen. Therefore arise and fight for the revenge of the death of your brothers.
11. First of all, fight for the revenge of the death of Hasan whom the Ummayads killed by the hands of Jada his wife. Fight also for the death of Hussein whom the Ummayads killed at Karbala.
12. Do not let any faction lay claim to the caliphate. Arise and destroy all who arise to take up the seat of the caliph. I Mukhtar shall support you in this fight.
13. So Al-Mukhtar declared Mohammed the son of Ali the caliph and the Mahdi at Kufa and he went ahead to proclaim him so. Now Mohammed the son of Ali was afraid to take up the seat of a caliph.
14. So he secretly called Mukhtar aside and said to him, my brother I have a word or two to reason with you. Why do you want to send me to my grave early? Why have you pronounced a death sentence on me?
15. Now Mukhtar said, I do not understand your hard speech. Make it soft so that I may understand and clarify issues.
16. Then Mohammed the son of Ali said, declaring me as the caliph is like a death sentence. Tell me, how many caliphs has lived beyond twelve years after becoming a caliph?
17. My father Ali, my brother Hasan and my brother Hussein did not even live up to ten years after being declared caliphs. Why do you not have respect for my life also?
18. Now Mukhtar said, you are not as strong in the mind as our prophet Mohammed, but you only share the same name. Do you not know that dying on the seat of the caliph has a great reward attached to it? You will be surrounded by virgins in aljana and many slaves shall become your possession.
19. You will sit side by side with Mohammed our prophet and eat with him. You will have houses of gold in multitude. You will enjoy many other benefits. How I wish your eyes are open to see your father and your brothers enjoying great riches in the paradise.
20. Now I charge you, fight for the seat of the caliphate. But firstly, you must avenge the death of your brothers Hasan and Hussein who died by the hands of the Ummayads.
21. Now Mohammed said, why do you need to avenge the death of my brothers who, according to you, are enjoying already in aljana at this time? Is it not absurd that you fight for the dead who are enjoying great benefits in paradise? We should rather reward those who sent them to paradise for their good deeds rather than fighting them back if indeed your testimonies are true.
22. When Mukhtar heard the words of Mohammed, he gave up and said, Mohammed, now I see that you are a coward. Is this not the reason why you have chosen to be known as the son of Hanafiyyah your mother rather than the son of Ali your father?
23. Now I shall depart from you and fight for the course of Islam in your name. I will restore the caliphate to the lineage of Ali again, only sit back and watch me as I will do it.
24. So Mukthar departed from Mohammed and went about to still declare him as the caliph so that he could receive support from the Shias and all lovers of Ali and his lineage
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 5:27pm On Aug 11, 2020
Learn the truth
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Will Jehovah Remain In His Spiritual Cage? by OtemAtum(op): 10:41am On Aug 11, 2020
It is 996 years 2 weeks and 1 day left for Jehovah to remain in his spiritual cage.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op):
Jehovah has spent 3 years, 11 months and 2 weeks in his spiritual cage. Many are losing their religion daily.
Family › Re: My Sister Cancels Her Wedding. Is She Doing The Right Thing? by OtemAtum: 5:38am On Aug 11, 2020
ndukwechinasa:
Too many factors should be put into consideration. My self i am staying with my mum and my wife. We are only two men and my elder bros is married and stays in his own apartment. I will not leave mum to just be alone cos i want to get married to someone who will possibly get another husband instanta eventually the odd happens.
Are you living in your mum's house or she is living in your own house?

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