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Jehovah has spent 3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 4 days in his spiritual cage. Churches are shut and eyes are opening daily.

TheRealProphet1:
You're a clown.

Says a false prophet

joyandfaith:
otematum

present

96forever:
pls Lord OtemAtum open you mouth and say the words “It will end in tears for shekpite” and you’ll get yourself a new disciple.

. Take that to a religious centre. They will always mindlessly repeat whatever you ask them to say.

thymm:
My Lord Jesus has set me free and I am free indeed. I am not under any curse. Jesus paid the price, I don't need to pay anything for all he has given to me freely.
For I know the grace of my Lord Jesus Christ, though He was rich He became poor, that we through His poverty might be rich.
I know God loves me, because He loves a cheerful giver. I give to the poor and as well to the body of Christ for the advancement of the gospel and charity works. This I do willingly and joyfully according to the measure of grace God has given me. I can even give my all, not just one tenth. I am not compelled to do what I do and how I do it by any man. The Holy Spirit is my guide and my director. Christ in me the hope of glory

This is an epitome of bondage. Enjoy it while it lasts and don't get over-emotional by the time it clears off your face.

Fictitious Jesus is lifeless because he is not real. Gabriel Jesus, Jesus Navas etc. are the real guys out there. Fictitious Jesus remain a work of fiction created by Paul the Apostle and supported by Eusebius and Emperor Constantine.

SegFault:
I mean your post was funny oh. I am not into the spiritual mumbo jumbo.

okay

SegFault:
The characters on nairaland self ehn. Una no go kill person.

We won't die. We've always been here and we will remain here. Actually, the record of Jehovah, Allah and thousands of other religious gods currently held in their spiritual cage has been here with us for some years now. You can follow the thread here

https://www.nairaland.com/5123826/time-jehovah-spent-spiritual-prison

What do you expect from a thief and his god Jehovah? They don't know more than cursing. Their holybook is filled with curses from Isaiah to Malachi.
Jehovah must be hungry to be asking people for money upandan

Congrats to Ayo the 'Creator'.

Meanwhile, today marks 3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 3 days that Jehovah and Allah the fake creators have spent in their spiritual cage. Churches and mosques are shut and eyes are opening daily.

DrLiveLogic:
What I find is that you propose another god without logical justification neither justifying your disbelief in the other gods.
a.) Your totality of existence god though is a constantly changing and alternating reality with sections of him, like our universe, here today and gone tomorrow asides the fact that parts of him are antagonistic to others unlike the human body which is coordinated to act uniformly in ultimate purpose. Parts of him are responsible for elimination of other parts, and such animosity is logically only sustainable towards an eventual constant state as the laws of thermodynamics suggests. So your god is bound to eventually evolve into a constant state of sustainable aspects of him. It is this that he reaches unto. This is therefore his purpose of existence. Yet the question must arise that how did a god who will end as a constant ever begin except as a constant? It is impossible that there was an unsustainable existence of animosity from the beginning by the impossibility of infinite regress. This should have been responsible for the parent code that led to the current state of existence, this initial should have been god.

b.) Again, you say every part of him is an intelligence yet you deny us any active intelligence, but claim we are only slaves to source codes. We however, strive to get ourselves informed to influence our decisions. You yourself are trying to influence my decision on god believing you can turn me to your way. You have even cursed all other gods and tried to divert us from their worship. This would have been unnecessary if you really believed I can only do according to my inner source codes. Why pick a quarrel with these gods if they are only running according to source codes and why educate men against them if these men are following their divine source codes. You live the contradiction of your belief and are proof of the madness of your god.

Even in our bodies, we have anitbodies fighting other stuffs in our bodies. We even have worms in our bodies that are parasitic as well as symbiotic in our body. Taking sugar gives us energy, yet it can cause diabetes. Fats in our body is useful and can also lead to obesity. Protein has both good and bad effects in our body. That's exactly what is happening within existence. You say that I'm trying to influence your thoughts, but you don't understand that it is part of the source code. Whether you become eventually influenced or not is also part of the source code. Is your hand a slave to your brain? That we have an overall consciousness doesn't mean that we are slaves to it. We are this consciousness, but we are little little fragments of it. You said that I'm trying to bring another god, but this is untrue. Existence(God) has always been and nothing can surpass existence. Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Vishnu, Atum, Shiva, Olorun etc have certain times when they began to be made known, but we all met Existence(God) here when we became conscious to the earth reality. So why are you trying to tell me that I'm just bringing another god when Existence has always been.

The truth is here

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Chapter Thirty Four
1. Barry Thorgan was a male homo sapiens born in the 281,724th year of the homo sapiens era, also called the 1724CE.
2. He was born in Oxford in England. Now Barry grew up as a Methodist. He adhered to the teachings of the Bible and feared hell fire greatly.
3. Now a time came that Barry began to read books of histories. Then he was surprised when he discovered how religion had always been headed and controlled by the people in government.
4. Now Barry compared different bible versions in his days, including the William Tyndale's, King James' and even the Geneva bible.
5. Then he spotted clear differences in them. He also knew by history books that many people had lost their lives as a result of Christianity his religion.
6. Now Barry began to have doubt in his mind, for he said, why should the government control religion instead of our god himself?
7. For if truly religion is true and owned by god, then it should be totally controlled by god himself.
8. When Barry had observed the many different and contradictory beliefs within the christiandom, he declared his resignation from the Christian belief.
9. Then he began to have enemies, for all his Christian friends suddenly became his enemy.
10. Now his best friend named Williams sought to kill him, because he had argued several times with them and they could not counter his arguments suitably.
11. For Barry asked five of them, saying, tell me about your belief. Then they told him contradictory views.
12. Then he said, if you cannot agree on what you believe, then your religion is very confusing.
13. For some of you say that some matters in the bible are literal while some of you say that they are allegorical.
14. But you all agree that you possess the Holy spirit, yet this one holy spirit cannot tell you the same thing.
15. Now Williams was a religious fanatic and an ardent Methodist member. Then he was hurt by the statements of Barry so much that he began to seek how to kill him.
16. Now Williams hit Barry hard with a stick while they played at the field. Then he fell and bled to death, being only 18 years old.
17. When Williams was caught, the matter was reported to the church. Then the church leaders said, this is a case of holy anger.
18. Phinehas the son of Aaron in the bible also killed sinners in the synagogue and he went scot-free. Therefore let us keep silent about this matter.
19. Let us not even allow it to get to the ears of the government. For our god actually used the body of Williams to act and punish the blasphemer.
20. So was Barry Thorgan forgotten and justice was not given, because Williams was a christian while Barry was regarded as a backslider who was deserving of his death.

budaatum:
https://www.nairaland.com/5994369/book-basotesh#91759768

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It is 996 years 1 month, 1 week and 2 days left for Jehovah to remain in his spiritual cage. Churches are still shut and eyes are opening gradually.

Hmm. This person didn't read the book of Ikilo before making this foolish decision. I hope he doesn't regret it in the future sha

Ikilo 5: 6-14


6. I have known of some humans who left their schooling, because they said, Jesus the fictitious character of the testament of Eusebius shall soon come to the world to end it. And such humans went to purchase megaphones, going about to share the news of the return of Jesus the hero of the book of Eusebius.
7. And when the first and second semester examination came, these people did not write them, saying, we have to set our minds on the heavenly things. And they steadfastly warn the people of that school, saying, give your life to Jesus.
8. And the Muslims of the school contended with them and injured them, but these people refused to succumb.
9. And under the sun and the rain did they remain preaching about the fictitious character. And when the results were out, they had carryovers in all their courses. And the school advised them to withdraw.
10. And the people accepted willingly with smiles on their faces. And after five years when Jesus refused to come to the world, the zeas of the preachers disappeared and they began to find how they shall return to school.
11. And they regretted of their actions, saying, we have done foolishly.
12. Now they struggled and wrote the University entrance examination over and over again, but could not get admission. And one of them went to kill himself while the other went to learn a craft.
13. Therefore I warn everyone, even if you say that you shall stick to the fictional character of Eusebius, do so with wisdom, making sure you do all the things you have to do and do not wait for that fictional character to do anything for you.
14. And if you will talk about it, do not talk about it with the whole of your soul as if it is more real than a fictional being.

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 3 days in his spiritual cage. Churches are shut and eyes are opening daily.

DrLiveLogic:
This isn't coherent. If we are all part of God, can you show what part then is responsible for the source code?
This part then will be the only intelligence and no other part will have any intelligence?
Also this universe as we know it is not a constant state but is always morphing into changing states. This would then make god not a constant but ever changing himself. How then can we define god - as a variable?
Also the models we've developed of the universe show a starting point for it and a possible end point. Does this god then have an endpoint/self destruct and a starting point?

What part of your body is responsible for the coordinations of all the activities of your body? Do you single out that part when talking about yourself? Also, because I tried explaining God Almighty as a human being doesn't mean that it is a human being, so don't limit your thought to humanlike structures where the brain carries intelligence alone. But in the case of God Almighty, every conscious fragment of it also have intelligence. But the summation of this intelligence is what we call God Almighty. We call it summation of consciousnesses.

You say that the model of the universe has an endpoint, but you don't actually know that God Almighty surpasses the universes. Rather, God Almighty is the TOTALITY of Existence. The universe that is observed by the scientists yet is just one out of uncountable universes within God Almighty(Totality of Existence).

There is actually a model which reveals to us something like this.

DrLiveLogic:
What will you say about the following?
a.) Going by your proposition, your will then is passive and nonexistent. It cannot be a force but is only acted on by god's source codes. The only existing will is that behind all source codes.
b.) You therefore have no freewill and not free but only a slave.
c.) Your god then believes only in servitude, not freedom and yet you just said you don't. You did not will to jump off the cliff but were only programmed to.
d.) I tell you your belief is wrong and that must be god acting through me. You say you're right and it is the same god acting through you. Your god obviously exists in the principle of contradictions. Hence every single effect and it's contradiction should exist in your god, if he is the totality of existence.
e.) But he only manifests servitude in you and I but has never manifested freedom. He has failed here in his active principle of contradiction.
f.) Is this because freedom, the opposite of servitude, is too great for your god that he cannot manifest it in his existing principle of contradiction? He therefore is not the totality of existence.
g.) As a perfect balance of contradictions, your god himself is therefore non-existent as opposing forces/principles must cancel themselves out.
h.)Every effect in the universe based on a passive creation is therefore directly due to god. The idea of creation was then pointless. You and I exist for nothing. your god was silly to create us in the first place if we can effect nothing.
i.) Do not forget that you have yet to show the impossibility of my initial proposition thus far about god's granting of freewill with all the consequences but only suggested yours which now cancels itself out

The problem with your understanding is that you don't know what God Almighty is. Okay let me tell you in this way, God Almighty is the TOTALITY of Existence. More like saying God Almighty is the whole of a being, while we are the bodyparts. For example, if God Almighty is you while you are the right hand, I am the left hand, Jehovah is the anus while Allah is the beards. Do the hands, the legs, etc bother about not having freewill when we all function together as God Almighty? We function as the bodyparts of God Almighty. We ARE THE GOD ALMIGHTY ITSELF.

Now again, everything in existence sums up as God Almighty and this summation is a great energy source that can change from one form to another.

DrLiveLogic:
Welcome aboard.
Please note that the OP is not about the bible which you have now introduced but focused rather on creation, a universal contact point with the creator. I am of the opinion that creation alone without any aid can testify about the creator. So let's get back to logic, what exactly is your view and challenge on the creation and the creator. You could read through my posts in the thread and critique too. We would base all here on simple reason and logic.





Are you saying I cannot choose to jump down a cliff all by myself? Are you also saying if I do, the only possible outcome is what is in the mind of god?
Again, when you say "freewill or not", are you recognizing the existence of freewill but its impotence to effect against the will of the creator or are you denying the existence of freewill?

Again, will you then say that if god is behind all actions taken, then it is his will to cause all consequent mayhem as in our experience?

You can jump down a cliff at will, but if you did, then it is part of the grand scheme. It is already within the Code of your existence right from the origin. As I earlier emphasized, every being and everything is a part of God Almighty, so whatever you do is not out of the scheme.

VLTA:
"For by Him(Jesus, the Son of God Almighty who came to die for our sins) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him: 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things CONSIST.


" For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

I sense you copied these quotations from the greatest book of lies humanity has ever compiled, which is the Bible. Anyway, I'm happy that currently millions of people worldwide have begun to ask questions and set themselves free from this great delusion while Jehovah their god remains bound in his spiritual cage.

DrLiveLogic:
Again, this logic seems flawed. Only an infection equally or more powerful than god would amount to the creature responsible being equal to god. If the creator is greater than the creature, then god can undo the infection.
Ultimately what brings the infection is freedom in the freewill which was given to eliminate bondage of servitude. With freewill, there is then a choice to do according to program or choose an alternative which may cause an infection. So we can say rather, if anything can truly create an infection, it is truly free but if anything cannot possibly do, then it is truly bound in servitude. This is the more plausible definition of servitude.
So maybe god has an "alternative" but surely not an equal since he can always undo it.

As earlier stated, the program of God cannot be undone. Freewill or no freewill, a being is still expressing the things within its source codes and cannot do out of it. All beings are parts of God Almighty and we express God Almighty in our own capacities. There's nothing like infection from any external thing, since what is called God is the TOTALITY of Existence.

Learn and be wise

DrLiveLogic:
First off, I didn't say that was my god but I'm proposing possibilities to be considered. Second, let's give definitions so we're on the same page.
We can eliminate the word servitude and say "doing what you were programmed to do" is what I mean. Also a god that never gave freewill is obviously the one that believes in servitude. So if we're eliminating servitude, we must include freewill.
So tell me, isn't it possible you're no longer doing what you're programmed to do if you got infected?

What brings the infections? For anything to bring the infection, then such a thing is an equivalent of God the programmer. Since God has no equal and everything is made by God, how then is it possible for something to infect and change the way a being is programmed by God? Except maybe God has an exact opposite with same power and capabilities as itself. But there's no such things.

DrLiveLogic:
Not circumspect enough. God as omnipotent can definitely create beings of less status than himself and if he creates these beings by strata, then the ones in a higher strata can influence those in the lower strata. If all these beings are given freewill by God to choose to serve him or not, then the higher ranks that choose not to serve him may create a virus that affects the lower ranks that choose not to serve him and there would go your logic that all creatures are secure from infection? So how can you prove you're not already infected?

This your god that needs servitude is not what I know to be God Almighty. You're actually talking about religious gods. I'm talking about God Almighty, being the Totality of Existence. There's nothing like servitude as regards this God Almighty, which is the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE.

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 2 days in his spiritual cage. Churches are shut and eyes are opening daily.

gensteejay:
You mean it was used to design Pascal's Triangle?

Can you post histories on this and history of Blaise Pascal?

I will do so when the time comes.