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MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

Why are you asking a question to which you already know the answer?

JESUS the Christ of Nazareth never existed in actual history - you can go thru the previous thread where we had the debate to see the reasons why I say that.

He story is a MYTH and an ALLEGORY that describes the part to ascension that every human soul must eventually go thru.

And just like the MYTHS of many other similar "Christos" from antiquity that came before him, the ALLEGORY about the ancension of man is a common theme.

Why don't you answer the first question Courz asked you?

Question #1 for MaxInDHouse from Courz - -

Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?

Courz:
oteneaaron, I talk am! He won't answer. He is afraid! The spirit of boldness haff disappeared!!

Lol

MaxInDHouse is such a coward right?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
Well let those who claims they believe in Jesus ask their questions in CHRISTLIKE manner!

Lol

Why are you beating around the bush?

So now it's those who believe in Jesus that should ask "their" questions?

Which other question(s) are you talking about?

Courz has already laid the questions bare, but you asked for it ONE BY ONE

1. Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?

2. Why does your Cult have these many failed prophecies?

3. What did God say about False prophets in Deutronomy 18 vs 20-22?

4. Who did God describe as False Prophets? Why is your Cult running another Freemason cult (from which you JWs were born) that meets in Masonic lodges to this very day?

Stop beating around the bush and start with question #1

MaxInDHouse:
This is how right thinking individuals question the beliefs of others RESPECTFULLY and they are RESPECTFULLY answered!

Lol

Sorry sah.

Question number #1 for MaxInDHouse - -

Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?

Courz:


You get time. Let us see the mental gymnastics he will come up with.

Lol

MaxInDHouse is just looking for excuses to avoid answering the questions.

Shey he wants it one by one?

I have given him question number one.

Let's wait, see his reply and continue with the next question on the list.

MaxInDHouse:
Simple instruction!
ONE by ONE!

Instead of answering the questions he asked, you have started running around in circles.

But no problem, there is no need for any further back and forth.

I will help @Courz out.

Question #1 for MaxInDHouse - -

Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
Until he forward his questions ONE by ONE i will not answer him, everyone is free to choose any religion and JWs also have that right!

Fear Fear.

Why don't you pick each question and answer it ONE BY ONE?

Stop disguising.

Courz:
Oh!! It is now about one by one question right? I knew you wouldn't be able to answer. Damn! You're predictable!! You're truly an AI program!

Don't try to run away!! Stop bringing up excuses!! Answer the damn questions one by one as you want or keep your mouth shut!! You asked for something. I gave it to you. You're whining like a little kid about ONE BY ONE QUESTION? ARE YOU MAD? You have been typing epistle upon epistle of rubbish. Your hand no break! But to answer all these questions I presented to you, you are fidgeting! You are scared abi? Come on answer the damn questions or shut it!!

Lol

MaxInDHouse is an indoctrinated AI program indeed.

He has refused to answer the questions you raised.

All they care about is the their goal and because of this, they bury their humanity and become animals.

Religion is the biggest tool used by the elite to control the masses.

It is so unfortunate.

RIP Deborah.

Nigeria has failed you.

MaxInDHouse:
You can continue crying for all i care!

It's not my fault that my intelligence beats yours hands down! Isaiah 54:17

Lol.

You and who are doing an intelligence contest?

Your "intelligence" is a result of your warped delusions of grandeur.

I really feel sorry for you.

MaxInDHouse:
Go out there and say the same thing nobody stops you from claiming whatever you want but insulting, abusing, cursing and calling people names simply because they disagree with you on religion shows you're not mature at all.

Kettle calling pot black!

You are very guilty of these same charges.

So does this mean you are also "not mature" ?

Religion is the biggest problem in the world.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep crying for all i care!

Upon all the quotations i presented to you guys does it mean anything to you people?
If you want to become Muslims let me know but blind arguments out of frustration i won't quote anything for you.
Go and hug the electric transformer!

LIAR.

MaxInDHouse:
You're both crying for nothing because even if i quote the Qu'ran you guys already condemned the books so of what relevance is the quotation?

Show us where it was stated in the Qu'ran.

Or can't you?

We're you caught lying?

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!
Are you also interested in Islam or you're just following me everywhere i go?
Well it's written in the Qu'ran that Allah scold the world rulers who are judging partially and questioned their sanity.
So leave that for Muslims after all you don't believe in Islam, do you?

It doesn't matter what I believe in.

You made a statement and I am asking for proof.

Show us where it was written.

Simple.

PeaceJoyLove:

Na star a dey see? Shooo!
Max suddenly is pretending to be gentle? You wey be dey run everywhere, attacking everyone in NL. Are you really ok? You that insult everyone despite you are a kid. You that we offered job opportunity and turned it down and insulted us. You that slap anyone in NL...that I had to step in and slap you back to save some gentle folks.

See, you think you have monopoly of madness...see...you no get am. I am happy you know I can handle you well.

Respect your elders. Stop talking to people anyhow. I had to learn how to use meme like you na.

Shut the crap up boy.


But we listened to you and observed you well before we concluded that you sre mannerless....and we can say that you are not a good example also. I know I am not perfect, and I dont hide it. But you are saint to yourself..... you want to teach me. Right? If I give you back hand.


Which fruits have you produced exactly in NL? Are you okay? You better go read all your posts and take note of the fruits you have produced. See, I know many of my posts are harsh..and I dont pretend. But you are a demon pretending to be a saint. And this is the reason I dont take you or your JW serious...you are all nasty and very annoying. The most annoying is that you are all kids. You talk to your elders like kids. See...I have told you..if you meet me face to face, you will prostrate. I'm not kidding. You behave like a mannerless boy. Is this what Jesus teach you?


And I have described your FRUIT above. How is your fruit a proof of the useless thing you posted here? You need to check your head. So, your Bible tells you to run around NL like NL wounded lion defending yourself?


A child who is mannerless will be rebuked. You are mannerless. If you want to continue showing how mannerless you are, feel free to insult me back. Na today? That's what your Bible teaches you na. It teaches you to insult people who can be parents to you. So, start...go on...let your madness start... go into your picture folder and start using your memes. Na today?

Lol

You are really prepared for MaxInDHouse

That is why I call him a HYPOCRITE.

He says one thing but does the opposite.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep crying for all i care, your chief Imam in Abuja was sacked for preaching against politicians, if your god has nothing to say against politicians what makes your Imam do such?

But you said you "remember"

Why don't you show us where it was stated?

Or were you just caught lying?

That is why they thrive on INDOCTRINATION.

The more you repeat a lie, the more it looks like the truth.

Creamypie:
certainly not bro

.

Exactly my point!.

So why has Jehovah's organization in Norway been collecting free money from Satan's World for over 30 years?

And even now that the funding has been blocked, why are they appealing the block?

What does Jehovah's organization need with free money from Satan's World to the extent of sending an appeal to their decision?

Creamypie:
Jehovah knows how to arrange circumstances, to cope if we put all our burdens on him, following his path

Should Jehovah's organization be collecting any money from Satan's World?

MaxInDHouse:
Once again you missed the import of what you quoted!
It has been prophesied that the Messiah will ride on a donkey into Jerusalem! Zechariah 9:9

So after they've heard lots of news about those healed by this great prophet they were all anticipating his glorious entrance into Jerusalem as spoken of by Zechariah the prophet. That day they were overjoyed but his face has nothing to do with them because they were expecting a turnaround in their situation.

What you still don't understand is that you already know Buhari, Osinbajo, Sanwoolu through television and newspapers so when they're coming you already have the picture of who you're expecting to see. But in this case Jesus rode into Jerusalem once and as they knew that such an event has been prophesied by a prophet his face means nothing to the crowd what they wanted is a CHANGE of their country's situation back then!

So don't think a person's face could be registered in your memory just once when you never know him before then!

We all know that government do pardon some criminals till today so you have no point in the release of a criminal being granted amnesty!

But that doesn't answer the question you were asked.

You said in front of Pilate, Jesus was IRELEVANT.

But how can a person who is IRELEVANT be celebrated all around the city when riding on a donkey?

Or are you saying Pilate et al didn't hear of that event of him riding into the city?

Why was he even killed in the first place?

Was it not because of his growing popularity?

That is why you should stop taking these stories as literal history.

They are just too many plot holes and contradictions.

You must learn to see EVERYTHING in the Bible as an allegory and not actual history.

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OurTruth:
I changed my mind. The information concerning what happens when we die is the most important of every information I wanted to share and I didn't want it to be buried under the avalanche of info I had already dropped on this thread, especially with the many pages it was gaining and the derailing comments.

Wanted it to be a fresh thread and anyone viewing would see most of the relevant info on the first page.

That makes sense.

FIRE ON.

FatherOfJesus:
Jehovah witness is an extremely fanatical sect of Christianity.
Their followers don't have function brains and the govenrment knows this.
You will soon see evidence when MaxInDHouse and cornelboy gets here

You got that right.

They are both fanatics and hypocrites at the same freaking time.

But fortunately, the Norwegian Government rejected their appeal and the order for their funding to be stopped was upheld.

See images below showing pages showing the rejection of the appeal from the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Zoom in to view.

Let me know if you need the link to download it for yourself.

Cheers!

For an organization that says it is the "only true religion", I expected that this announcement by the Norwegian Government would not disturb the JWs

Because after all, what is $2m free annual money mean when this is "Satan's World"?

God's Organization does not need any of Satan's free money.

Or so I thought.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses wrote an email appealing this decision by Norway.

Fabian Fond at the branch office of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Scandinavia, writes in an e-mail to NRK that they are disappointed:

“The decision will be appealed. The appeal process will give us an opportunity to clearly explain why our faith and religious practices fully respect the rights and freedoms of others.”

Fond further writes that no one is forced or pressured to become, or continue to be, one of Jehovah’s Witnesses:

“It is worth noting that trials in several lands have confirmed the right of Jehovah’s Witnesses to exclude persons who choose not to live by the moral standards of the Bible.

As a registered religious community in Norway, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been eligible to receive government grants for more than 30 years. “

Oh so Jehovah's Witnesses have been collecting Satan's free money for over 30 years!

Interesting.

Proof -

https://www.nrk.no/norge/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstotte-for-2021-1.15830483

https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/norway-will-no-longer-fund-the-jehovahs-witnesses/

https://avoidjw.org/featured/jehovahs-witnesses-loses-appeal-in-norway/

The concerns about the JWs - part two

2. A similar policy applies to children. If a child in a JW family “makes it a habit to break the moral standards of the Bible and does not repent,” the Witnesses teach, they are also to be treated as pariahs.

That means a young teenager (baptized or not) who quits the religion is subject to exclusion from religious members.

While their immediate families don’t have to kick them out of the house, the state administrator said the Witnesses believe that child can no longer “have contact with other close family (including grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins) or friends.”

That puts pressure on the child to remain in the fold — a violation of their own rights under the law. (“We consider social isolation as a form of punishment against the child.”)

Because of those two “systematic and intentional” offenses, neither of which can be denied by the Witnesses themselves, the state administrator concluded that the Witnesses are not deserving of the subsidies. The Jehovah’s Witnesses are still allowed to practice their faith, of course. They just won’t get any taxpayer money for it.

So basically, Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway have lost nearly $2 million of annual free money.

The concerns about the JWs - part one


In a written statement from the state administrator in Oslo and Viken, there are two Jehovah’s Witness beliefs that are particularly egregious as far as the law goes:

1. The Witnesses engage in the practice of Disfellowshipping:

That means former JWs who leave the religion are effectively excommunicated. Members are told not to have any interactions with them.


The idea here is that the former members will get so lonely or depressed that they’ll eventually come crawling back. There’s no shortage of families that have been torn apart because of this.

The state administrator wrote that Norwegian law requires all religions that receive government subsidies to practice a “right to free withdrawal.”

If there’s a serious obstacle to leaving a religion, that’s arguably a violation of the law. Disfellowshipping, the administrator wrote, “can cause members to feel pressured to remain in the faith community.”

Last year, the government said it would begin looking into the Witnesses after two former members and a separate (anonymous) whistleblower sent letters explaining that the Witnesses were in violation of the rules.

It’s not that the JW beliefs were secrets or anything. It’s more likely that government officials needed to act deliberately and get their paperwork in order before they could take any kind of action. Those letters got the ball rolling.

Some of those claims were debatable. For example, the Witnesses say members can’t get involved in politics, and that means JWs never vote in elections.

One former member argued that since voting in an election could lead to expulsion by the Witnesses — which means members couldn’t interact with you — that qualified as a violation of the rules.


The Witnesses responded by saying they had every right to set their own policies, and if someone wanted to vote, they were freely deciding to leave the fold. There was nothing coercive about it.

But there were other concerns that the government took very seriously...

The Norwegian government said it would no longer provide funding to the Jehovah’s Witnesses because of the religious sect’s cult-like practices.

Backed by the law, Norway pays an annual grant to every religious group in the country depending on the number of members in their fold.

According to the Norwegian government’s Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, in 2021, there were 12,686 registered Jehovah’s Witnesses in the country.

That number meant taxpayers were on the hook to give the Witnesses more than NOK 16 million (roughly $1,778,793 in U.S. dollars) in support.

That is about $140 per member.

So why would the Norwegian Government all of a sudden stop funding Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well, the Norwegian religious community act states that -

If a religious or philosophical community, or individuals acting on behalf of the community, commits violence or coercion, makes threats, violates children’s rights, violates statutory discrimination prohibitions or in other ways seriously violates the rights and freedoms of others, society may be denied grants or grants may be suspended. Grants may also be refused or reduced if society encourages or provides support for violations mentioned in this section.

Religious or philosophical communities that accept grants from states that do not respect the right to freedom of religion or belief may be denied grants.

So the question now is this - If Norway has stopped paying an annual grant of almost $2m to Jehovah's Witnesses, does this mean that they (JWs) have broken the law?

Let's dig deeper to understand what really happened..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a5yE2PzVVk

OurTruth:
For those interested in knowing what happens when we die, I created a separate thread

https://www.nairaland.com/7122201/there-no-heaven-hell-what#down

I was thinking you were going to conclude with this thread before creating a new one.

OurTruth2:
The Chitahuri

South African Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa, confirms the story of reptilian-extraterrestrials in Africa, another hidden chapter of the lost history of Planet Earth.

Having traveled throughout the world, Credo Mutwa, says that the “legends” of the interactions of humans and reptilians are common knowledge in Australia among the Aborigines, the cultures of Japan and Taiwan, as well as indigenous Native American people like the Mayans, Sioux, Cree, and many others.

Credo Mutwa says that “when the Chitauri came to Earth, they arrived in terrible vessels which flew through the air, vessels shaped like great bowls, which made a terrible noise and a terrible fire in the sky.

The Chitauri told human beings, whom they gathered together by force with whips of lightning, that they were great gods from the sky and that from now on they would receive a number of great gifts from the gods.”

Of course, there would be hell to pay, so to speak, for these alleged “gifts.” Was the gift of “religion” one of them?

The video where Credo Mutua talks extensively about the race of the Chitahuri and even brought carved artworks depicting their heads was on YouTube years ago but I can't find it now.

Here you go bro


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L97j9-rL1GQ

Ibomrep:
I suggest you try to put your anger under control instead of pouring it out unnecessarily.

How many scriptures have quoted in this your long episode?

May God forgive you

But where is the lie?

Are his words not true?

Why sending people to your website?

Why don't you answer the inquiries he asked above?

Or are recording your time on Nairaland as hours to report every month on your "field service report sheet"?