₦airaland Forum

Fejoku:
IPOB has said we aren't responsible for this fraudulent and wanton attacks on our people under the guise of an unnecessary sit at home yet our haters will come on nairaland to accuse us forcing it. Our people know the truth and will always stand by us. The state actors were sent to cause mayhem so their online minions will escalate and lay the blame on IPOB. They have failed though as our people trust us and know that we will never attack them.
Shame on all of you.

Keep lying to yourself. Don't face your problem head on. Be blaming others and think the problem will go away.

SenatePresdo:
My message to men is, try to lift others even if nobody lifted you.

You know how hard it was for you, and how you were lucky in some phases, not everybody got that lucky, you could be their luck.

And lastly, no matter how much you spend on a woman she will forget you the day she decides to follow another man.

But if you spend on your fellow man, even if he makes new friends and even follows another woman, he will never forget your deeds.

Be your brothers keeper.

Not all men are loyal. Someone was living in a free house wey him uncle build for many years and regular sending of money from abroad to his account to take care of his family.....last last the stupid boy with his ingrate wife dem talk sey dem the use him glory.

Uncle just vex sell the house go buy another property somewhere else.

Some men go jealous you and destroy you out of envy.

To think that I supported this girl after I saw her video and believed her wholeheartedly.

I really mess up men .Her liver no be here. She deserve to be put in jail even if it's for 7 days.

She has destroyed her name forever.

If she had kept quiet and allowed the error thing excuse to fly it eould never have been this serious instead she get mind to do video to insist that it was original.

She deserve better wiper for that her face. Dey use grown man like me dey play.

saphiere:
Hmmm

Please I need a job

Where are you located and what are your skill sets and what kind of job do you need.

Psalm125:
Please if anybody can help me with any little amount to cook something to eat I will be very happy. Feeding is a big problem for me and my family please no matter how small. I havent eaten anything since yesterday in the morning pls. My dad is a retired teacher and my mom is late. Am a single mother with my own son mouth to feed, the little money i make have use it to cater for my dad illness and pay house rent but his health is getting worst. Now we can't even eat or buy water to drink. Please if you're reading this message pls come to our aid, no matter how small it will go a long way pls. May God meet you at the point of your need as you have show us mercy amen

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FaithS.H
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E be like sey your time don dey reach. You no dey hear word abi.

Kobojunkie:
Here's hoping we are finally towards the end of the era of the false teachers and the false prophets.

You prefer swindlers in the guise of motivational speakers to the real deal.

Una kuku no dey read Bible to know what is inside but depend on " my pastor says " . Even if your m7ntula pastor tells you their are demonic psalms in the Bible, you will clap in excitement.

Otondo people.

Philtropy:
Beloved, please don't just scroll pass, please can any kind hearted person please assist me with little money to get drugs. Am seriously down with malaria and typhoid, and I don't have a dime on me to eat or buy medicine am running temperature please.cant die in silence please help me in any little way. May you never lack anything in this life. Amen.
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G.TBank

Today your name is this, tomorrow your name is this..but the name on the account number is always the same. One day they will come and pick you up and really check on you to see your temperature. E no go funny that day for you with this scam wey you dey run.

You will wish that the ground will swallow you up that day.

I don dey observe you .

Maybe na Hunter gawck himself. Trump will be laughing at them.

Macmoni:
Same america where his being accused by haters of being a convict yet they hustle him so well
If a crime was committed in the USA dey ban d criminal and publish his record why haven’t tinubu been confirmed as a criminal by the USA yet they still associate with the man

Because the game of power is an amoral one.

He currently is the President of Nigeria. His decisions can enhance or destroy their business interests.

Their interests supersede any other considerations to varying degrees...so they must deal with him.

It's not a game of love...there is no love on the streets wether corporate or trenches.

Common interests will find ways to align
Even countries that are at war still trade with each other.

Nigerian politicians understand this perfectly and unfortunately align for nefarious reasons.

SpreshMan:
Not that I want justify cheating, but most men who go outside to Bleep hoes do so because most of their fantasies cannot be freely done with their wives. You will most probably be looking at her tender and soft. Imagine you do this and she starts complaining. Tell your spouse to touch her toes, pull her hair, spank her ass and give her multiple fast pace thrusting.

She is the one that actually deserves and craves it the most.

WhisperedNoise:
Statements like these sound humble but upon closer inspection, you'll find out that they're not.

Dangote is the richest black man in the world. He spends a considerable amount of time abroad. If he spends a chunk of time in the US, why shouldn't he have a house there?

Note that the cost of him paying for hotels will be astronomical...I mean, he won't stay in a two star hotel. Calculate the amount of hotel fees, and cross it against purchasing a house and see whether it makes sense.

Also, every man has a weakness. For Bill Gates, it's philanthropy. For Bezos, it's it's $500 million yatch. For some, it might be vintage cars. For some, Oyster watches. For some, horses. For some, houses. For some, clothes.

Let's not judge people because we don't fancy their proclivities.

Hotel bills and other will be written off as business expenses while filing taxes so he won't pay out of pocket for them.

FxMasterz:
Please kindly get me right. I'm talking about the particular use of incense in white garment churches and the occult when I said incense is demonic. The practice is the focus here because God is not in it. Hence, demons are sure to take over.

Can you tell me why John who wrote the book of revelation never burnt incense himself? Why he never passed it on to his proteges? We were commanded to pray only. We were never commanded as Christians to burn incense. We pray, and angels offer up our prayers as incense to God. Prayer is in itself spiritual incense. God is a Spirit. He wants spiritual incense. Not physical incense. The physical incense of the old testament is symbolic of the spiritual incense of the new which is prayer. God is a Spirit, He would no longer accept physical incense because by the power of the Holy Ghost, we're able to offer up spiritual incense unto God. The old testament was a testament of physical dealings with God. In the dispensation of the new testament, our dealings are spiritual.

We're commanded to pray without ceasing. Let's do that, and leave angels to do what they're commanded to do. God does not need our physical Incense. He got tired of that already and replaced that with spiritual incense which is prayer.

I don't need to comment on your hymns. In the book of Revelations, Christ addressed some Churches as Synagogues of Satan. Do you think they inserted Satan worship or demonic phrases into their hyms? Satanic churches wouldn't tell you they are. I have someone who told me he was invited somewhere to pray for wealth. They opened a portion of scripture and poured salt on it to pray. His spirit told him it's money ritual. He rejected it. All his friends who participated in the prayers became extremely rich. However, they all died mysteriously one after the other about the space of 10yrs. He's currently the only one standing even though poor. You can see the deception.. They opened Bible and salt, and yet , they wete conjuring demons. I can't be deceived by hymns or energetic preaching. Is it commanded? Is it in line with the gospel of Christ? Do we have a new testament example? If the practice cannot stand the tests, it opens the doors for deminine activities. Please I never said the place he was invited to is a white garments church. He didn't even tell me whether it was a church or not.

My younger brother was praying for a lady who happened to visit his house. He isn't a pastor but he had to pray when the woman started manifesting insanity in his house. As he prayed, the demon was talking out and cursing. He had a tough time with the demon, but every time he issued a commands in the name of Jesus, the demon responded with fear and submission. The matter started from the parlour and eventually took them outside in the neighborhood. He kept praying. Neighbors gathered, and some were praying too. You know, everyone knew he's not a pastor, so everyone was contributing what he knows to do. I wasn't there, he was the one who narrated the events to me. Let me shock you. He said while they were outside battling the demon, a neighbor who attends a white garment church rushed inside and brought water from a bottle. Before he could say jack, the man had emptied some of the water in the bottle on the lady"s head and muttered something in prayers. He said immediately the water touched the lady, the demon giggled and said 'You're even giving me what I cherish". According to my brother, the lady turned extremely violent from that moment on. The demon became extremely stubborn, and whenever he shouted the name of Jesus, it was as if he was talking to the air. He said he was later on inspired to stretch his hands towards the sky and ask God to baptize his hands with fire. He did that, and laid those hands on the lady. After some brief moments of time, the demon left and the lady regained her composure.

Now, my stand concerning your practices is not based on this event narrated above. I have always had this stand based on my knowledge of scriptures in relation to your practices. So, both my brother and I were not surprised at the turn of events when the white garment guy poured that water on the lady. He has never experienced such before, so, he quickly chatted me up to narrate his new experience. This incident happened last year. I still have the chats. So I can easily screenshot them and show them to you. You can verify the dates to be sure my narration isn't a fabrication.

Bro, kindly seek God for truth concerning these matters. There are times when one can be sincerely wrong, and yet continue fervently with zeal in doing the wrong things ignorantly.

If you request the chats, I'll fetch them out for you. I'm actually in Ibadan, I'm not based in Lagos.

May God help us in Jesus name.

Those who died after 10 years of being rich died because of their lifestyle. With a lot of money Nigerian man go dey drink alcohol and pursue small girls steadily without any exercise to maintain their body...na likely cirrhosis of the liver, kidney failure or sexually transmitted disease kill them no be any demon.

You are very good at reading your own meanings into the Bible. You have mentioned the synagogue of Satan. They were described as such because they said they were jews whereas they were not. That is all that was said about them. How does this then apply to the Celestial Church of Christ?

In spiritual warfare, what matters is the ranking of the person using the name of Jesus. Demons know you when they see you and will question your authority if they don't revere you. The sons of Sceva tried to imitate Paul and used Jesus name to cast out a demon but the demon beat nonsense for their body because they had no authority to use the name.

The fact that you are spending several hours casting out a demon shows you were not called by God to be his minister but you are a volunteer. If Demon tell you say him cherish water, so water too is now demonic and we should stop drinking water by your logic ooo.

You are also obsessed with demons and you forget that these beings were actually Angels who worshipped God almighty at one time until they fell for the deception of Satan who also was a worshipper of God until pride set in and he was cast down.

They know God more than you ever can or will.Na Nigerian economy turn you to pastor and i can deduce that God does not trust you with power because your heart is still filled with pride and arrogance and you have no reverence for God...if not you will be afraid to be twisting his words.

I will recommend you go listen to Pastor Michael Orokpo to learn about kingdom living.

He is a Pentecostal pastor but a well trained Biblical scholar that has a healthy understanding of the Bible and spiritual principles.

The Revelation Chaoter 8 verses clearly says.

3. Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne.
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The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's hand.
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Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.

These verse clearly indicate that incense was burned...Yet you are claiming that the incense was not burned and the angel was just holding it in a bowl.

When you offer incense, you pour it on a censer filled with live coals and its smoke rises up.that is how its done. And that is why it says the smoke of the incense together with the prayers of the saints. The incense is not the prayers of the saints. It was burnt along with the prayers of the saints ...just the way Celestians do during services.

You are a liar man and you need to really stop because you are just making a fool.out yourself by twisting and lying about bible verses. You lack the fear of God if you don't think twice about doing that.

If you hate the Celestian Church of Chrrist way of worshipping Jesus Christ...it is okay.

Branding them as demon lovers and worshippers with absolutely zero proof or biblical backing except your arbitrary personal opinion is actually devilish.

In the course of my interactions with you on this forum, I have caught you in three lies...for a so called man of God that is a scary sign.

In your analysis you have mentioned a word which you don't fully grasp and it is actually the essence of the items celestial members use for prayers and in worship. " Symbolism"

As Celestians we know that those items have zero power in themselves but are symbols of eternal truth and principles or statement of God that we actually know the meaning of.

We pray to the father in the name of Jesus Christ using those items as symbolic representations AND prayer points.

You can scream all you like but the fact remains that we are not demon lovers or worshippers. Simple.

Finally I will concede one thing though. When the Sons of God gather there will always be the Satan among them. For every 12 there will be a Judas.

Are there impostors in the CCC. Yes
Are there devil incarnate masquerading as good prophets and shepherds in the CCC. Yes
Are there ignorant folks in the CCC. Yes
Are there folks who have no love for God and just attend for the spiritual benefits that they derive from attending. Yes.

However what Jesus advised us is to let the weeds grow with the good plants...when it is time for harvest, he will separate the good plants from the weeds and burn the chaff.

Like one of the CCC hymn says

All of us will stand before the Lord
Both young and the old
And we shall give account of our works

There is no other way that leads to heaven
Sinner call on the name of Jesus
He will save you

The precious blood of Jesus, paid the price for our sin.
Sinner cleanse yourself with it and you will be saved.

I rest my case and leave you to your conscience.

FxMasterz:
Incense are demonic. I never said they're not. I have personal experiences to confirm this. The spirits that are conjured are not the spirit of God. In my last post, I opined that when you do things that God isn't involved in, you'll certainly come in contact with demons. The occult also practice these things to deceive people. Satan is a master of his game. I'm sure you're doing this ignorantly. Please ask God to reveal the truth to you.

Bro, when John saw the angels holding incense (note that they did not burn incense, they held the bowls Contanining it), the Bible immediately told us what the Incense represents - the prayers of the saints. Let's see it together:

Revelation 5:8

"And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

The language of Revelation is symbolic. The incense represents the prayers of the saints. The saints themselves didn't need the incense. They didn't burn anything. They only needed to pray, and angels offer up the prayers as incense to God. How sweet an aroma our prayers are to our God. The angels offer up our prayers as a sweet smelling aromatic incense to God. Let us do what we're commanded and let angels do what they're authorized to do.

Yes oo.. the incense were for decoration. They held in their hands with no intention to burn. Now if incense are demonic why would God even allow it in his precense.

So incense represents the prayers of the saints...but they are demonic. Can you show me one single bible verse that sailys incense are demonic.

Baba choose where you want to belong..no dey use your mouth talk two things at the same time.

I am not shocked that you have said nothing about all those Celestial Hymns that I quoted.

I am sure you are surprised and shocked that you actually know nothing about these guys.

If you live Lagos. Send me DM. I go follow you talk and guide you through our practices.

I am in Nigeria for this week.

FxMasterz:
My brother, only people who don't know the word of God call my views narrow mindedness. Many who are well groomed in sound doctrines commended my views.

You're practicing the commandment given to Aaron when the Aaronic priesthood has been abolished? Is Aaron your high priest or Christ? Jesus Christ is our High Priest. We're not followers of Moses or Aaron. We're not the children of Israel. We're the church of Christ. Not the church in the wilderness.

Aaron was a Shadow of Christ. All the practices of the old testament foreshadows the spiritual practices of the new.

I have told you this before, let me tell you more plainly.

In the old testament, candles symbolize the Holy Spirit. They didn't have Him back then because He was not yet sent. They use candles to represent Him according to God's command. In the new testament, the Holy Spirit has come. We do not need the shadow which is the candle anymore. We have the real body - The Holy Ghost. We're the church. We're not followers of Moses. God has moved on from the Aaronic priesthood, its laws and its commandments. The Old has given way to the new. The old is no longer needed. Paul explained these things explicitly in His Epistles, and most especially in the book of Hebrews.

Incense represents payers. What they had them in the Old Testament was incense. In the new, we have Spirit-enabled prayers, which is the real incense. The shadow has been taken away. The real body is prayer. It gives a sweet smelling savour to God. That's why the disciples never burnt candles.

It wasn't any mortal man who abolished those practices but God Himself. He made one covenant old, and then replaced it with the new. If both old and new are to be used concurrently, the the old is no longer old. Old Testament rules have expired. They've completed their purposes. That's why there's clear difference between the practices of the church and that of the followers of Moses.

The moment you pick up practices that are not sanctioned by God, you'll be introduced to demons. We're the church please. We're not the children of Israel who worshipped God in the physical. We worship God in the Spirit because God is actually spirit and He has always sought men who'll worship Him in spirit and truth (John 4:24).

So incense are not demonic again.

John was shown a vision of heaven long after Jesus Christ and this is what he saw...Angels burning incense, the Redeemed of God clothed in white.

Beautiful to see...except to you burning incense is demonic.

I dey reply you today because I no get better things to do right now

One of Celestial Hymns says

Saviour we have come again
Teach us what obtains in heaven
Send your Angels down
We will have victory over the devil

Another CCC hymn says

Who is worthy of our worship
If not the King of Glory?

Another CCC hymn says

Let the King of Glory come into his sanctuary
Let him come into his holy sanctuary
Who is this King of Glory , Jesus is the King of glory.

Another CCC hymn says

Jesus is the light of the world
Jesus is the Christ in the Celestial Church that will over come the world.

Another CCC hymn says

Jesus is King of the world
The Devil has fallen, he has indeed fallen to the ground
He has fallen he has fallen he has fallen


These is what every Celestian sings in church during services.. and are the same people you call demon worshippers. May God forgive you for your sins of slander against his children and his church...because you think you know all.

Anyways even Jesus was accused of having the spirit of Beelzebub...who are we to.complain.

You will be alright Las las

FxMasterz:
And can you tell me the noise I made in asking a simple question which you've been unable to answer for so many days? What can rivers, candies, incense, etc that you use do for you that the name of Jesus cannot do? If you cannot answer the question, wouldn't it be wise of you to keep quiet?

So you think that those who use candles to pray to Jesus Christ don't know what they are doing. Of course to you they are not just unbiblical, they are demonic as well.

Well, If God Almighty commanded incense to be burnt when his people offer prayers to him and to keep the burning of lights perpetually in worship to him..who are you or mortal man to be saying that these acts are demonic, outdated or not direct commands to those who do these things found in the Bible?

People have pointed out your narrow mindedness,hypocrisy and arrogant ignorance to you so I won't bother repeating it to you.

God himself must be demonic for issuing these commands or "allow" Angels to burn incense before him....what a demonic God that we serve.

I will just advice you to go and humble yourself and go learn about God...it's clear that you don't know much about him...and I really don't have the patience to wake a man who is only pretending to be asleep.

Exodus 30:7-8

7 “Aaron must burn fragrant incense on the altar every morning when he tends the lamps.
8 He must burn incense again when he lights the lamps at twilight so incense will burn regularly before the LORD for the generations to come[b][/b]

Revelation 8:3-4

3 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. [b]He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God’s people, on the golden altar in front of the throne.

4 The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God’s people, went up before God from the Angel’s hand.

Luke 1:9-10

9 he was chosen by lot, according to the custom of the priesthood, to go into the temple of the Lord and burn incense.
10 And when the time for the burning of incense came, all the assembled worshipers were praying outside.

FxMasterz:
What are you angry about? Can you please tell me why Jesus, the apostles and the church of Christ never practice your occuituc mode of prayers? You burn candles, bath in rivers and make sacrifices and night, burning incense and the other weird things you do which are clearly unbiblical. Your friends never explained any biblical context of the Bible events. They only pointed that those things happened in the Bible, and I explained the Biblical context of the references. Do yiu really mean that a woman's menses drained Jesus of power? Laughable!! Of course, you don't know Jesus!

There's no need to drag issues with you. Just answer the question: What can rivers, candles, incense, etc do for you that the name of Jesus cannot do? Why avoiding the question?

Empty barrel makes the most noise.

1.I've heard you.

2. No problem. I understand

Propaganda is a weapon that will be used mightily for the next season.

A lot of SM influencers will be given irresistible offers to steer public opinion in any direction deemed fit.

True greatness eludes the average Nigerian. " Leader " for a lack of people elevating visions as opposed to self serving, pecuniary interests

Put on your seat belts...we are in for a bumpy ride. It shall be well with Nigeria and one day we will have a country that we can be really proud to come from.

helinues:
Funny Nigerians, they want to enjoy government facilities yet they are not ready to pay tax

They want stable electricity but na illegal connection dem dey use.

We need to learn the culture of monthly bills in Nigeria, most especially in the housing sector, when you know if you don't pay your bills, your service would be disconnected, you wont have any choice to work your ass off.

Nothing comes cheaper apart from salt. Even in Freetown, no free things

Blatant, consistent and unbriddles stealing of public funds is what led the Nigerian state to this situation.

That foreign culture that you think is good, is not one you really want to have.

There will be suicides and exponential fatal armed robberies that you don't have the men and resources to cope with.

What you have done is to steal from and oppress the down trodden and then blame them. Nigerians are not lazy, it is their government officials that are shameless thieves.

Handsome baby face, with a heart that bears no evil towards anyone and wants the best for everyone in my circle.

Younger brothers always looked older, my age mates always looking way older.

Easy going and harmless looking, but very sophisticated brain to engage others in conversations about many things

VeryWickedPrick:
I hate this type of Nigerians die!
The ones wey no fit think for themselves busy carrying down myths from their childhood into adulthood.


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As your hatred no comot pin for our body,wetin we go do now

Dem no dey bath for morning

This life sha...na so Obafemi Martin's reign one time like that. Now some younger people will not even recognize him

Noted. Will get in touch

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Noted

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OriOko88:
Na akata babe davido go impregnate. D biach go drag davido pass tiger gen. Black American babes are just so vulgar and raw with words.

Davido:s gbola don enter am..buh damn akata babes dey knack shiit

He is in big stress. Na the child support the gutl dey after as she dey so. 18 years of monthly payment for the girl to dey flex with.

Funny thing na sey , ba Davido income dem go take determine how much him go dey pay. De girl don hit goldmine as she dey so.

She won't let go. Only thing wey go save Davud na sey make the baby no be him own and make him no sign birth certificate.

If not peace has left his life.

Una no see as wizkid take gentle after the akata woman born for am. Him no one pay child support, him just calm down jeje and become responsible father to the pickin.

I pity no pity David at all.

dalass:
Successful musiciams like Davido are generally community preek

I understand. But you don't hear folks like Eminem and 50, having baby mama all over the place.

shegzhkn:
Wait, wait so you still have the Nigerian accent ?? Are you not getting the "please come again "
How do get along with folks like colleagues and your partner?? & Who is bolu ?

I learned to speak slower and pronounce the words like them so they can hear me well..but my Nigerian accent is evident.

David's voice is thicker than wizkid's.
The thicker your voice, the harder it is to loose...that's why girls adapt quickly and men struggle.

My voice is thicker than a frog oo.

You dey carry right shoe wear for left leg.

The thing na individual thing.

After nearly 10 years, I have not been able to change...meanwhile Bolu Nigerian accent don dissappear finish


I think it has to do with the thickness of the person's voice. David voice is thicker than wizkids.

That is why females quickly adapt and older males usually struggle.

My own voice is super thick.