Politics › Re: NG Army Vows To Punish Army Officer Involve In The Torture Of Captured Terrorist by Otsam(m): 4:53am On Feb 03, 2020 |
Emperor2463: “The attention of the Nigerian Army (NA) has been drawn to a video reportedly showing some NA personnel engaged in unprofessional torture and above all extra judicial killing of a suspected Boko Haram terrorist likely in the North East Theatre of Operation.
“The NA wishes to clearly and strongly condemn the action of those involved (whoever they may be) in the misconduct, and that the dastardly act is completely unacceptable, unethical and is against the cherished core values of the NA especially that of respect for others and their fundamental rights. “NA training, Rules of Engagement and Standing Operating Procedures guiding the conduct of all her operations are unambiguous about human rights abuses and extra judicial actions including the rights of the arrested/captured terrorists/ combatants. “Troops in the various theaters of operations in Nigeria, have been consistently warned to desist from rights infractions of any form no matter the amount of desperation, anger or provocation. “NA does not license, encourage or condone indiscipline, unprofessional conduct especially extra judicial execution of suspects or combatants. “Where ever, such is noticed or reported, once it is comfirmed, appropriate decisive sanction or punishment is usually immediately meted out to the perpetrators and this case would never be an exception. “Accordingly, on seeing the gory video, NA has commenced thorough investigation to apprehend the culprits with the aim to deal with them in accordance with the extant military justice system. Members of the public will surely be informed of the results of the actions taken so far. “The NA, as a responsible and law abiding organization, will remain professional in the discharge of its constitutional roles and will continue to operate within the ambit of the law in line with the local and international best practices“ SAGIR MUSA Colonel Acting Director Army Public Relations
https://legitnewsblog..com/2020/02/nigerian-army-vows-to-punish-army.html It baffles me whenever the NA is ambushed by the terrorists and they rush to the media to accuse journalists of sabotage to the extent of arresting them. You caught members of your opponent, you claimed to rehabilitate them and absorb them into your force to fight the cause they are ready to die for yet you are accusing journalists for sabotage, who is fooling who? |
Politics › Re: Salihu Kadiri: Amotekun Targeted At Fulani Herders — Sarkin Fulani by Otsam(m): 10:25am On Jan 30, 2020 |
Ctorch: https://www.independent.ng/amotekun-targeted-at-fulani-herders-sarkin-fulani/?utm_source=&utm_medium=facebook This seriki or what’s his name has shown that their daft/dumbness is genetic. He mentioned fulani vigilante in southwest without any southwestern in the composition yet wants the southwest to include them in their own outfit. He also forgot to say the numbers of the southerners in hisbah. Is it that the farmers are lying that it’s the Fulani herds destroying their farms or they are the ones.so this one wants to turn Amotekun to Nigerian army that keep absorbing Boko-Haram to fight Boko-Haram. You will soon return to your desert. |
Politics › Re: Amotekun Is A Christian Plot To Dominate Muslims In South-West - Sharia Council by Otsam(m): 7:27pm On Jan 28, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Amotekun: MURIC Sends Message To Southwest Governors by Otsam(m): 4:08pm On Jan 27, 2020 |
References: The Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) has called on Governors of Southwest States to allow the Operation Amotekun embrace all citizens living in the sub-region.
MURIC also advised that the new security organization should not lean towards any religion or target any ethnic group for victimization.
The call was made in a statement on Monday issued to DAILY POST by the Director of the human rights organization, Prof. Ishaq Akintola.
This was sequel to the resolution of the governors of the South West to give a legal backing to the Amotekun security outfit.
The statement added, “No homo sapien compos mentis living in Yorubaland will oppose the setting up of a security outfit to complement the existing security agencies on ground (the army, police, NNDC, DSS, etc).
“We all want lives and properties secured all over Nigeria. That is why people living on every street have security arrangements in place while some individuals also have both day and night guards in their private offices and homes.
“It is therefore mischievous to give the impression that Muslims are against the South West security initiative. No reasonable Nigerian today will frown at attempts to boost security in any part of the country. What we oppose is the religious and ethnic tinge which the handlers gave Amotekun.
“You cannot blame Muslims for crying out when you ask them to bring birth certificates from churches before joining Amotekun. Neither can you expect them to stand akimbo when you tell them to bring letters of recommendation from churches.
“Muslims in the Yoruba enclave are not opposing Amotekun per se. What they oppose is a situation where a ostensibly anti-Islam security outfit comes into operation in Yorubaland.
“Apart from the reference to birth certificates from churches and letters of reference from pastors, the choice of nomenclature is another controversial issue because it has a strong Christian identity.
“Why ‘Amotekun’ as a name for crying out loud? Research has revealed the biblical origin of this name and it makes Muslims suspicious. Why Amotekun of all brands?
“Jeremiah 5:6 says, ‘A leopard shall guard over their city’. Amotekun is mentioned in this verse with particular reference to guarding a city.
“Now, we have a sub-region where Muslims have been under persecution for ages coming up with a security outfit under the name of the same leopard mentioned in the bible as a guard over the city.
“This is not a coincidence. The handlers of Amotekun picked the name deliberately from the bible in order to score a spiritual point. It is very critical. It calls for serious concern. So why give a security unit a religious name?
“We advise the planners of the new security outfit to give it another name in the interest of peace and harmony in the sub-region. This is necessary if they want to carry all stakeholders along. Amotekun as a name is already controversial. We do not need a Christian security unit.
“Neither do we need a Muslim security outfit. The security agency in the South West must not only be neutral, it must also be seen to be neutral.
“We affirm that Muslims form the majority in the population of the South West. They are therefore critical stakeholders and the unity of the Yoruba cannot become fait accompli without involving the Muslims in the sub-region. Muslims must be carried along in any security network in the zone. We are interested in security.
“We are security conscious. We will therefore join a South West security initiative if it is not tainted with Christian landmarks. We will have confidence in a security outfit that involves Muslim leaders, not one that parades pastors, bishops and archbishops alone.
“It must also be noted that a security group that starts with subtle threats to our brethren in faith in another part of the country cannot be safe for Muslims in Yorubaland. There is no racism or tribalism in Islam (Qur’an 49:13). It is a global brotherhood. Yoruba Muslims love Yorubaland.
“They also love Nigeria. But they owe their Creator, Allah, an unflinching and undiluted love towards their brothers and sisters in Islam no matter their race, tribe or colour. From Allah we came and unto Allah we shall return.
“On that Day, nobody will be judged on the basis of his tribe but on the basis of his deeds on earth. Nonetheless, we believe in a united Nigeria and we will support a security unit that constitutes no threat to any tribe in the country, be it Igbo, Fulani, Ijaw, or Tiv.
“However, the latest assurance coming from certain quarters that birth certificates from churches and letters of reference from pastors was not part of the original pre-requisites is most welcome.
“MURIC will support any security arrangement anywhere in Nigeria so long as such arrangement is devoid of gymnastic religiousity and acrobatic ethnicity.
“In addition, the organisers of Amotekun must desist from attempts to intimidate perceived opponents of the scheme. Leaders of the group must caution their foot-soldiers against excesses.
“They must distance themselves from arm-twisting gimmicks like deliberately misinterpreting statements made by people who oppose the Amotekun idea.
“For instance, MURIC has very strong evidence that some elements in the Amotekun camp have issued death threats to its leader. That is unacceptable. It is an attempt to silence opposition.
“All opinions must be allowed in a democracy. That is freedom of speech. Those who attempt to muzzle opinions give the impression that they have hidden agenda. It presupposes that the Amotekun security project will be biased and unprofessional when it finally comes on board. We refuse to be intimidated. It changes nothing in our stand and style of advocacy.
“In a nutshell, as the organisers deliberate on the legal framework to back the complementary security project in the South West, we advise that such legal framework includes a clause that lays emphasis on religious neutrality, security for all citizens residing in Yorubaland regardless of their ethnic background and a new name which is acceptable to all faiths.” https://dailypost.ng/2020/01/27/amotekun-islamic-group-sends-message-to-southwest-governors/ Mynd44 Lalasticlala But they owe their Creator, Allah, an unflinching and undiluted love towards their brothers and sisters in Islam no matter their race, tribe or colour. This man just confirmed his love for the terrorists because they are of the same religion. It’s a pity he’s bringing shame to the Muslims in Yorubaland because both the Christian and Muslim has been living together in peace and harmony and no one has ever segregated them based on religion. But they say if a household is peaceful, the bastard there is yet to come of age. I hope the reasonable Muslims in southwest will put this lunatic to check before it’s too late |
Romance › Re: She's The Best Woman For Me But Not That Beautiful. Should I Still Marry Her? by Otsam(m): 3:05pm On Jan 26, 2020 |
Omoakin120: Hello everyone, I have something bothering my mind for a long time which I need an advice on.
I have a girlfriend who I really love so much, we were friends before I started falling for her, we've been together for long, I enjoyed her company, she's the best woman to me, she's everything you'll love a wife to be in character, caring, love and all.
Unfortunately, I have a problem, and the problem is that, she's not that beautiful to me. I'm a kind of person that doesn't like trying what my mind doesn't fully want, whenever I think of her, it's only that aspect I don't always like.
I've always fantasized of marrying someone very beautiful cos that's what I want. The problem is that this girl is so good to me. I have no problem with her, but I'm only thinking I can get fed up of her with time cos of her beauty which is not up to my expectation and I may likely cheat on her.
Please, I don't know what to do, can I still risk being with her or leave her? Beauty is good truly but peace of mind is better. Probably you have not dated a beautiful/ugly lady that gives you problems/cheat on you before. If you have, you will try to see the beauty in whomever you find peace of mind. You can ask God to help you see the beauty in her if you truly want her but if you strongly believe you will cheat on her because of her beauty, it’s better you drop her(not because of you cheating on her but because of you living a happy scandal /danger free life) and both of you would be happy thereafter if you both finds your preferred choice. Ultimately, it’s better to ask God to make it work “if” it’s going to make you happy and fulfilled and not make it work if otherwise. God will help you. |
Politics › Re: If Poverty Continues In The North, Islam May Disappear From The North - Sanusi by Otsam(m): 9:15am On Jan 24, 2020 |
OruExpress: What people won't realize, though he's saying it in plain english, is that 'we' need to prioritize arabic education. All because he has a nasal accent went speaking english. Nigeria Sharp. Trying to say because of the population of the north and more interested in Arabic than English, then Arabic should get a place as a second language. |
Politics › Re: Amotekun: Afenifere Accuses Tinubu Of Doublespeak by Otsam(m): 7:43am On Jan 23, 2020 |
tesppidd: The Yorubas have had it very good in this democratic dispensation.
Produced a President, Produced a VP, and occupied very many other critical positions in the polity.
The Yorubas have played a very major part since 99. And unlike the Ibos, they can never claim to have been marginalized in any way in Nigeria today.
The problem the Yorubas have had since the current democratic regime since 2015 is the offspring of a new political faction of the Yorubas. I call them the Yoruba PDP faction. These "Yorubas" have consistently opposed the current Government despite benefiting immensely.
Now back to the subject of Tinubu, nobody who is sensible and unbiased would claim to NOT see both the pros and the cons of Amotekun.
Tinubu's reaction has represented the most patriotic and unbiased position out of the many public figures...
His message is simple as ABC..
Amotekun is good, but all stake holders must sit together to appreciate the possible problems that would come out of it and address these problems. SIMPLE!!!
These so called Yoruba PDP parasites under the guise of Afenifere want Tinubu to come out criticising the FG for not supporting the initiative so that they will be the first to spread the propaganda of Tinubu "disagreeing" with Buhari.
And if he does not support at all or he calls for restraint on both sides they then on him as a betrayer or a "Fulani slave"
PDP Yoruba, only a fool wouldn't see what you have beneath your mini skirts. Yes, you are right on not being sentimental but when it comes to taking sides, there is no two ways about it, you either be for or against. Let’s say the obvious, he’s just been cautious because of his stake in this administration. But an average northerner will talk straight and you know his stand when it comes to situations like this. We have seen that repeatedly in this administration when people will be crying that they saw Fulanis who butchered or shot their kind men and the president repeatedly stood his ground that the fulanis only wield sticks, later he said they were not Nigerians, later the spokesman said it is better you surrender your ancestral land than to be killed and nothing happened. Don’t forget that the governors in question are not novice in government, they know the appropriate procedures, they even cane out to say they went through appropriate channels before setting it up . I bet you if they didn’t, the presidency would have ordered them to forget about it instead of just pushing people out to test the waters. In fairness, I went to Ogun State yesterday and entering the state, I saw two Fulani vigilante on a bike wearing chocolate brown uniform with dagger on the side, I was like, did they inform the agf before forming this even in the west where they don’t want them to have their own. So there is nothing bad if you stand by your people so far their of goodwill. No man’s ambition is worth the blood of any man |
Politics › Re: Amotekun: Afenifere Accuses Tinubu Of Doublespeak by Otsam(m): 7:18am On Jan 23, 2020 |
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As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, i think this amoketun issue is being hypocritically blown out of proportion to expand hatred for other tribes especially the Fulanis. Why must we Christians be the brain behind the vast support for Amotekun when the Nigerian constitution is clear about the roles of the armed forces and police in the security of the country? Why must we form an ethnic militia to target fellow Nigerians when the constitution guarantees freedom of movement and doing business nationwide as long as we are Nigerians? What we fail to realize is that the south east cheering on Amotekun sees its as a synonym for their biafra agitations and they will rather support anything that will disband the relative peace and unity of Nigeria. The IPOB sympathizers will be the one to cry wolf when Amotekun starts targeting their tribesmen who commits various crimes in the south west. MURIC recently condemned the killing of a CAN pastor and sympathized with we Christians, how many Christians will condemn the killing of an imam or Muslims? Instead we rejoice when tragedy strikes them forgetting we are all humans before religion. Instead of emulating our Muslim brothers who have remained silent on this issue of Amotekun, we Christians are disturbing the cyberspace with hypocritical comments. Amotekun will never see the light of the day as long as we remain one Nigeria. It's a bad policy and a tribalistic security outfit aimed at persecuting other Nigerians. On behalf of we Christians, i condemn Amotekun. Let's learn to live in peace and harmony  As a born again Christian, how many times have they hold Amotekun meeting in your church?
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Romance › Re: 2 Women In My Life, Which Should I Marry? by Otsam(m): 9:22pm On Jan 22, 2020 |
mrbenjame: I think I need matured minds to advice me because I’m very confused right now. Please take pains to read my story.
I dated a lady called Susan (not her real name ). For 4 years. I loved her so much and she did too. I met her when She was preparing to enter the university. 6 months into the relationship I went for service. Came back and it was already clocking 2 years. Whenever she visits I always try to make her comfortable. So she took advantage of my care and always wanted me to serve her all the time. Even when she visits from school she would be operating her phone and watch me do what on a normal terrain she should assist me do. As a young guy I try as much as I can to let her know that at least once in a while it would be nice to get my meal served by my woman even if I prepared it (since she doesn’t like entering the kitchen). Most time I overlook it because probably she’s very tired and all that. Sometimes I thought I was just being selfish but I really wanted to feel that woman attributes but I wasn’t seeing it.
Each time we fix time for a date she comes very late and that piss me off to my bone marrow. She never keeps to time. I endured this for a long time because she never turned up early in any appointment. She calls me at late hours and when I try to explain to her that it’s late she gets angry ( I’m talking of 12 am or there about) and I’ll go to work the next day. Anytime she offends me she would want to be romantic so I’d forget her wrongs just to calm me down. But I was suffering inside.
I felt very weak emotionally and decided to take things easy.
Until I met this lady called Benita (not her real name). I liked her. I admired everything about her. So I approached her while we were going back home from work. We had good conversations and I was happy because she was fun to be with. We exchanged contact and we started chatting. Forgive me because I became happy again just talking to her. Whenever we say goodbye when she gets off the bus she times when I’d get home and immediately I step my foot in my house she calls.( already I’ve told her when I’d be home). I invited her to a date in an eatery and she turned up 10 minutes to the time. I was shocked.
I became more involved with her. I invited her home. She went to my kitchen and she said “ your plates are not washed why? I just smiled and told her I’ll take care of that. Before I knew what was happening she’s started washing the plates. I begged her to stop because I didn’t send her to do that and besides it’s her first time in my house. But she refused. I let her (though the plates were not much but I was happy). She started visiting often with food items to cook. And I obliged to assist her. She refused again. We argued until she had her way. I just sit with her in the kitchen and gist while she cooks. To me I felt I was punishing her because all I wanted is that things of such can be done by her once in a while. (I sabi pity person o. Lols!). And secondly I’m not used to a woman doing things for me for a very long time now.
She calls all the time. Talks so lively and very funny. She’s not the miss romantic type but very smart and reserved.
After a while, you can’t cheat karma. Susan found out. She came to know about Benita. And since then it wasn’t easy settling between two of them. But Susan won’t just give up and I think I’m cool with Benita.
Today Benita is in her 100 level while Susan is about going for her service.
Now I’m trying to be responsible to settle down. I talked with my mum and some close friends of mine but they’re tipping Susan for me because she’s out of school and it would make things much easier for me than settling with Benita. But I love Benita now. She makes me happy. What do I do? There is no substitute for happiness bro, and it has no other name. If you are not happy with your path-mate, don’t expect miracle in the journey. Your friends and parent and anyone could give advice but wouldn’t be there with you during the journey. We can’t even understand your predicaments if you explai because we are not the one experiencing it. So please happiness is the key, go after what makes you happy as it would be you and you alone in your journey. |
Politics › Re: Amotekun Is A Christian Agenda To Silence Us - Osun Muslims - by Otsam(m): 9:28am On Jan 21, 2020 |
toye440: Muslims in Osun State, under the banner of Osun State Muslim Community (OSMC), have condemned the process for the recruitment into the newly launched Western Nigeria Security Network, also known as Amotekun. They described the process where recruits are asked to produce birth certificates from Churches as a deliberate action to silence the Muslims in the region. In a communique issued at the end of a delegates’ meeting held in Osogbo, Osun State Muslim Community said that they were in full support of existing security outfit for protection of life and property in Nigeria provided by the Nigeria constitution and the laws of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. The group in the communique signed by the duo of Alhaji Mustafa Olawuyi (President) and Alhaji Hashim Ilelabade Olapade (Secretary), a copy of which was made available to DAILY POST on Monday, added that “The composition and establishment of Amotekun in the South West of Nigeria is unacceptable by the Osun State Muslim Community (OSMC) as highlighted in its nomenclature.” The duo said, “Osun State Muslim Community is in full support of existing security outfit for protection of life and property in Nigeria provided by the Nigeria constitution and the laws of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. “The composition and establishment of Amotekun in the South West of Nigeria is unacceptable by the Osun State Muslim Community (OSMC) as highlighted in its nomenclature. “We unequivocally condemn issuance of certificate of birth, letters of recommendation from the Church deliberately silent about other religions. Osun State Muslim Community (OSMC) can never support one-sided security outfit which may later on prove insecure for the general populace. “Osun State Muslim Community (OSMC) hereby awaits full details of the composition of the security outfit which should be fully endorsed by all State Houses of Assembly in the South West of Nigeria. “The Amotekun charter titled “Amotekun Golden Rule” contravenes the spirit of Nigerian constitution, confrontational and sectional. The OSMC shall not be disposed to support any organization on tribal sentiments. “The establishment of Operation Amotekun is shrouded in secrecy and hidden agenda, inimical to security of lives and properties and the progress of the nation therefore it should be countenanced. The group also condemned the action from of Adeleke University Ede for allegedly suspend a Muslim student. “The OSMC reviewed the case of a Muslim Student suspended for a semester from Adeleke University for not attending daily Church services as compelled by the University. “It was resolved that the Stand of this University negates the policy of National University Commission (NUC) that guarantees freedom of worship for faith- based private Universities. Therefore, Adeleke University Ede is an untrustworthy, insincere and deceitful institution. “Muslims are hereby called upon to henceforth boycott the University and seek admission for their wards in other tertiary institutions that are tolerant to the practice of Islamic religion”. This is the height of gullibility we are talking about. According to this write up, they don’t even know the full details of the composition of the security outfit. But since one inferior dumb head trying hard to identify with those up north that doesn’t even notice him has come out with his balderdash, the gullible ones just took up the chorus now giving clue to the fg on how to divide the masses and disrupt their plan. I see no reason why religion should be brought in. Common sense should tell these gullible ones that Amotekun is another outfit just like opc and no church would want to identify with fetish. And six governors would not be so daft and all be religiously inclined after all, oyetola of Osun is a Muslim. It’s high time these people should drop this religion extremism for socialism. |
Politics › Re: Sorry To Say, The Nigerian Government Is Better Than The Nigerian People by Otsam(m): 6:24am On Jan 21, 2020 |
OruExpress: And this goes for all governments including Buhari's.
Ask yourself why state workers are the only workers in Nigeria that at guaranteed minimum wage, benefits and vacation, while everyone else is not 100% sure they will be paid for years of work in the private sector. Unless of course they find a job with a foreign company in Nigeria, but at that point what is the differentiating factor other than working for a Nigerian. The rest of us, if we can find work, are subject to nepotism, rape, beatings, humiliation, degradation, insults, to the point that the average Nigerian is employed be someone who treats them worst than an enemy ever could.
This example is small. Buhari is wicked, incompetent, and lawless. But does this differ from the average pastor, iman, lecturer, police officer, husband or even parent? Anytime the greater bulk of Nigerians are given authority, the concentrate their energy on making others feel less than or trapped. At least Buhari is looking out for Fulani people all over West Africa. Who can the average wheelbarrow pusher tell you he's looking out for? What the little authority he has as a wheelbarrow pusher he will hit as many legs as possible, and argue with anyone that objects to the pain. He will damage people's clothes and frustrate them to that small but consistent extent that he can. If you give this person an army and oil budget, what will he do? The woman that beats and degrades her 'house girl' (slave) at every given chance... what will this person do if asked to tend an entire country of poor people?
As much as we want to blame the government for Nigeria's problems, the truth is we excel at creating pain and frustration for each other. Countless Nigerian homes are staffed with fathers who's income begins with their hand and ends with their stomach alone. Many parents cannot keep valuables in their house because their own children will steal it. Most pastors, when given a chance to speak will focus on creating animosity and paranoia from their followers. The hear more prophecies than all of the prophets combine, and declare and decree more than Jesus ever did. Go to a Nigerian church and all you will hear is 'binding' 'devil' 'fire' 'blood' 'destroy' 'rebuke' 'hate' 'steal your destiny' 'die, die, die'. Then after hearing this bloodthirsty sermon for four hours, a person will emerge from that church filled with the spirit of division and conflict, which he or she (usually she) will call 'the holy spirit'. Go to church anywhere else and you will walk out with new insights on life and a hopeful feeling. Go to Nigeria and someone has buried your destiny in the sand and must die. And don't let me start with the imams.
So what will it be? I cannot ask everyone to change Nigeria, and this is only a post on a forum so I don't expect to do miracles. But please, whatever authority you have in your personal life, and the authority you will soon gain, please be humane to the people around you. Whether you're the person with the wheelbarrow or the next president, live a life that makes life a blessing. A good point but wrong topic in my opinion. Like I always say, government is not Nigeria’s problem but our mentality is the problem. Why I do say this is that, it is the very few part of the people that are fortunate to make it to the position of authority that are referred to as government. Government is just a name given to them to distinguish them as the one in authority. So, their regular mentality doesn’t change it’s just the title that changed for that period. And the power drunk, oppression, greed, insecured attitudes embedded in the gene and mentality of average black man comes into manifestation as soon as they assume power. So it’s not a matter of government is better than individuals, but don’t forget that if the few that are fortunate to make it up there could have a good sense of judgment and a changed mentality, they will make decisions that would reflect their values and this would also eventually lead to change in so many individuals mentalities. This could be noticed in other countries, it’s not that the people doesn’t have bad instincts but when the few people that made it to power were able to make decisions that favors the masses, there is no call for the manifestation of the bad instincts. So don’t see the government as being better rather see them as individuals with the opportunity to make a change but failing due to the bad mentality. |
Politics › Re: EU: Buhari Doing Nothing To End Killings, Persecution Of Christians By Fulani by Otsam(m): 11:18am On Jan 20, 2020 |
Yusman316: Chief go do ur research. The Benue vigilante group formed by the then governor escalated the Fulani herdsmen killing rampage when they secretly started rustling cattle from Fulani You should e the one to try go deeper in your research and read where Miyetti Allah themselves made it known that it is their fellow Fulani/Hausa that are rustling their cattle. That’s what their president said when the issue of rustling surfaced. |
Politics › Re: EU: Buhari Doing Nothing To End Killings, Persecution Of Christians By Fulani by Otsam(m): 11:15am On Jan 20, 2020 |
mrvitalis: So u want to wait till they kill 1000 ...so 20 people are not enough ...if u watch the map u can see they target Christian dominated areas
Yoruba's are being proactive ......
So u prefer your security on the hands of outsiders than your brothers
I'm Igbo but I feel you are either Yoruba Muslim who kiss the ass of the north or a northern Muslim God bless you. With people like this, the unity they are shouting would never work because they can never for once be fair in judgment. |
Politics › Re: EU: Buhari Doing Nothing To End Killings, Persecution Of Christians By Fulani by Otsam(m): 10:56am On Jan 20, 2020 |
givbitcoin: There is the police, army and navy. The protect yoruba as much as they protect others. Must yoruba people form a tribal security outfit before they feel protected? Even when doing so contravenes the contents of the constitution? Although, I know that Amotekun will fail but attempting to create is a big attack on unity of this country. yoruba have elders who cannot think but rather behave like untamed donkeys. The consequences of what you have done will be dire. Those who embrace you with love are the people you stab but you call it wisdom. Seriously? Are you trying to tell me that the civilian jtf that operates in the north east were formed before the emergence of the police, navy and army? This hisbah must have been formed during the Stone Age as well? Where were those forces when they ruthlessly dealth with Benue, jos, Zamfara, kaduna south? Didn’t our president told us he wasn’t aware that the IG didn’t go there? But when three herdsmen were killed in gboko town, six trucks of Nigeria army entered the second day to maintain peace. Where were those forces whenever they burn down farmlands? And for you to now claim that someone killing your people is embracing you with love sounds like another planet’s language. Even the presidential aid confirmed it that it is better to surrender your ancestral land than to be killed or were you in Australia when he said so on a live television? So, why do you need to bother yourself with the actions of the untamed donkeys? And what could be the consequence that will be more grave than seeing someone ripping your brothers intestines with dagger in a broad day light? What could it be that would be more serious than having your life savings burnt down in a farm by untamed herds? Take it or leave it, the action caught you people unaware and you didn’t believe anyone would be so bold to defend themselves that’s why you are crying foul. If not, why should you employing a security guard make your neighbor cry? |
Politics › Re: Why Is Amotekun Only Resisted By North West And North East? by Otsam(m): 2:59am On Jan 20, 2020 |
Trump2020: Lagos, Osun and Ogun are against it and these are area controlled by Tinubu Seriously? And you think it will come into existence if it’s the approval if just the three of the six governors? What do you see to the silence of the three governors you mentioned? Don’t you think they are just doing so in order not to hold their words and not term it as anti-party agenda? Can six work together except they agree? This that happened is just to show you that, bunch of the apc members are sycophants, hailing the boss publicly so as not to be in the black book, wailing with their family members in the corner of their room and praying for the fast round up of the administration. |
Politics › Re: EU: Buhari Doing Nothing To End Killings, Persecution Of Christians By Fulani by Otsam(m): 2:49am On Jan 20, 2020 |
Witchersunited: ordinary OPC we all saw how bad that got, bulk of the cults in the south west are core opc members, if each state want to form their own vigilante its ok but regional is tribalistic, what happens when each zone starts doing it? Who is in charge of the so called units? When they go rouge with guns, who will call them to order, the states pushing this agenda can't even pay salaries
Is it this ones they will be able to pay, everybody is using sentiments to reason, Nigerians love distractions, this is keeping you busy forgetting that even with opc then, bad things still happened, this so called unit will only cause more harm than good
Let the states push forward the funds they have and let the police force recruit more police men and spread them there but this method is going to divide Nigeria, check points checking and robbing people, I can write up 100 pages of faults that will come from this. Yes you may be right that the issue of regional security is tribalistic but why not look inward for the reason of it’s birth by this time. Necessity they say is the mother of invention, there has always been insecurity in the country but the act has never been ascribed to any tribe because everyone speaks out to whoever is caught in the act. But now that a particular region is claiming to be more equal than others and they are making it more obvious, this is what it gives birth to. “It is someone that is beaten that becomes aggressive” if whoever at the helms of affairs makes the country a place for all to live, the masses are not that unreasonable to cause unrest.proof is the coexistence that has been in Nigeria and no one ever thought of the security ish. And saying they will abuse the powers, yes you are right as well but don’t forget that the opc you mentioned actually conquered the situation they were raised for which was the 419ers, and when their excesses started, they were called to other and whoever is a cult member is just a proof of his/her own moral value not that of government. Even the Nigeria police you are talking about is not left out in the abuse of power as we are seeing them everyday in their dealings and the sars as we all know. Even the government that’s supposed to check all these things are the principal power abusers we can see what the police have been reduced to by the politicians. Don’t forget that if people’s expectations were met by the police on this issue of security, they wouldn’t come up with the idea of their own security. If the government is not frowning at people for constructing the roads to their communities by themselves, providing portable water for their communities by themselves, building community schools then they should not be disturbed by regional policing except they are ready to do the right thing. |
Politics › Re: EU: Buhari Doing Nothing To End Killings, Persecution Of Christians By Fulani by Otsam(m): 2:15am On Jan 20, 2020 |
Witchersunited: Maybe it's me or somtin
Do people bother to check things
The crisis affects the north more, they kill their own people more than Christians
I'm not a Muslim but Christians over do things
False alarm and panic everywhere, see south west that nothing happens to talking about regional Police, how many people died in South West? Look at the case well and u will see that the vigilante group is a tribal affair, benue that has suffered alot aren't even talking about policing, it's Lagos with only 5 deaths Should the southwest wait till they are dealt with like Benue? Should they wait till their loved ones who greeted them in the morning are sleeping in their own pool of blood in the evening? What happened to the saying “prevention is better than cure”? Is the body language of the fg not clear on impunity/favoritism/tribalism? Is the recent cries by neighbors over someone securing his house not an evidence? Or why should your neighbor be angry at you for employing a security? If you think those in southwest are crying wolf on the killings, then you should be reminded that, he wo values something protects it also, they don’t go into the labor room as often as those that thinks human lives are nothing. Let them protect their interests. |
Politics › Re: Why Buhari’s Men, Security Chiefs Oppose Operation Amotekun by Otsam(m): 6:26pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
SpecialAdviser: I have had a lot of people asking me why this Amotekun has been giving the north sleepless nights. It shows how shallow many Nigerians understand Nigerian politics. In fact let me try to explain something to them. May be they will start understanding Nnamdi Kanu better.
The north contribute very little to Nigerian economic development and would wait for proceeds from Niger Delta oil in order to carry out developmental projects. This is the core cause of Nigerian civil war. Abuja, Kano and other major cities in the north was built solely from oil proceeds.
Suffice is to say that everywhere in the world, oil is not found in every nook and crannies of a country. So Nigeria is not an exception to that simple logic.
But the issue with Nigeria is that the north refuses justice to other parts of Nigeria. Years of military rule refuses tangible project in other parts of the country. And a military channel was put in place to make sure no resistance exists anywhere from Nigeria. This is why you see them colonizing every military and para military organizations. Same reason Obasanjo retired many top military officers of northern origin to wither their influence.
The north fears any resistance that can cause break up and deny them the free flow of Niger Delta oil. The issue is that their mentality of subjugation has caused them big problem managing Nigerian unity. Their notorious nature have even caused a big split within the north itself as many minority northerners have become wiser now. Look at statement from TY Danjuma.
The coming to power by Buhari has escalated this mentality. Fact is that the fear of such subjugations which was evident in Buharis pre election statements caused Igbos to be on the alert resulting to what seemed like a hatred from the Igbos. People like Nnamdi Kanu cashed on this animosity and gained a lot of followership.
The north is always afraid of Nigerian break up but has failed to make Nigeria a country for all. Im sure America has this intelligence and with the growing hatred they have in the north, we may expect break up earlier than expected.
I would advice Igbos investing so much outside Igboland to think twice before such investments. The future of this country is gloomy and you cannot afford to lose most of your belongings yet again to other Nigerians.
Except divine intervention, the country may have serious issues sooner than expected. On point |
Politics › Re: Jide Awe: South West Will Produce Next President - APC Chief Tells Miyetti Allah by Otsam(m): 5:26pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
maynation: Alas!! Yorubas are more united than you really can imagine. Even if they don’t want to unite, the cries of the north over the issue will raise suspicion of an averagely reasonable person and like minds will always talk in one direction. There is a sarcasm adage that says “you are always accused of being a thief, you are still seen romancing another man’s goat” that’s the case of the north |
Politics › Re: Balarabe Musa: Amotekun, Ploy By Yoruba Leaders To Create Oduduwa Republic by Otsam(m): 5:10pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
Sunky200: https://www.sunnewsonline.com/amotekun-ploy-to-declare-oduduwa-republic-balarabe-musa-ex-kaduna-governor/ The northerners are really displaying who they are and what positions they hold in the insecurity issues in this country. How’s protecting one’s subjects as a governor interpretes to secession? Look at the self acclaimed highly informed man that’s saying what he doesn’t know about the opc. The opc never dealth with anyone based on tribes and we never heard of any tribalism about them. They were brought on board when the menace of the 419ers was at his peak and they actually lived up to the task and as a matter of fact, Yorubas and Igbos were the most affected cos they were more in the business then. Though there is nothing like power that people don’t abuse and even when the menace was cleared and they have little to do and started flexing muscles, they are more at loggerheads with their kinsmen usually to show superiority and not for tribalism. So northerners should just take it that other region has tolerated them so much and they have taken it to far that they have woken up the sensitivity in them, they should deal with it. |
Politics › Re: Balarabe Musa: Amotekun, Ploy By Yoruba Leaders To Create Oduduwa Republic by Otsam(m): 4:57pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
fairfora: You should know our governors understand better. They're learned and exposed. Our leaders don't act without considering both sides coin. Ondo governor, who happens to be one of them is a SAN and you know what that means in a law profession. Pls leave the northerners alone. We will sort them out. Amotekun has come to stay and if they're afraid we would break up by setting up amotekun, are we perpetually meant to be together? They should go to court if not happy about it God bless you, I wonder how some people on here now think they are wiser than those governors even those that has never been a class captain in their lives. Amongst them they have SAN and they forgot that each governor has the state attorney general that would have advised. I wonder why the easterners did not kick against it and it’s only from the north. Is that not a pointer to something significant? |
Politics › Re: Balarabe Musa: Amotekun, Ploy By Yoruba Leaders To Create Oduduwa Republic by Otsam(m): 4:50pm On Jan 19, 2020 |
CharlotteFlair: But my question is, why didn't the governors get legal backing of their state assemblies before rolling out?
Why create such a lacuna for the opposers to latch on, why put the cart before the horse? And did you read how many times this man was asked why the northern jtf that also didn’t go through the state assemblies remains legal and Amotekun is not legal? Why are they just claiming to be the lord of the country? They have their own and even saying it out loud that it is right but other regions shouldn’t try it. Let’s call a spade a spade , what is good for the goose is good for the gander |
Politics › Re: Amotekun Is Unconstitutional - Maigari Dingyadi, Police Affairs Minister by Otsam(m): 7:26am On Jan 19, 2020 |
reccy: Well, it should rather be the other way round, their intention is bad ( with the recent registration of members in church and their body language towards Muslims) but it's actually constitutional.....
Well my take is, if they want amotekun, every religions should be carry along otherwise scrap the nonsense .... Well, I don’t know your religion but I believe in common sense. You should be more informed than one man that is forcing a relationship with people that doesn’t even see him as a worthy worshiper. A professor by rank and promotion but daft in the spirit and soul. Common sense should tell us all that, only few churches has hospitals, and of the few, very minute population of their members gives birth there, and birth certificates from local government, hospitals and affidavits are the widely accepted in this country. Also, don’t forget that a Muslim is among the governors that set up the security outfit. So, how do you think it would be possible to convince him that it’s only a birth certificate from church that will be accepted? If you gather 100 Christians, how many of them do you think will be using church certificates? Please wise up and don’t let one man dying of inferiority complex mislead you.Afterall, both Jesus and Mohamed doesn’t need our help to defend them, they are more than capable to defend themselves. They lived before we came and and defended them selves in our absence. So, stop being religious and start being Godly. |
Politics › Re: Miyetti Allah: Amotekun May Deprive Southwest Of 2023 Presidency by Otsam(m): 5:22pm On Jan 16, 2020 |
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Politics › Re: Malami Explains Why Amotekun Is Illegal by Otsam(m): 1:36pm On Jan 16, 2020 |
Yahksbiz: This is the place most Nigerians got it wrong. They always blame the Federal government for everything like the Federal government bodies are kind of demi god. Those guys are body of working people from different constitute.
This kind of your quarrel can not be limited from the north because they also make the same complain too. They believe other quota are ahead of them in everything. That is just our problem and this is why Nigeria keep going back. Buhari may be absolutely innocent on all those atrocities of quato this quota that.
The problems lies with the elders of the people, some of these elders have sold their people and have pocket them in their pocket. They eat anything that come to their people. They feed fat on their people which I don't see with the north elders that always fight for their people. Just look at south west or east, they are just waking up. Hisba has been there since shekarau's time but what did they do or say about it nothing. When Lagos created lasma kwankwasu immediately brought karota. The elders of the north are needful to their people they hear the voice of their people and respect their opinion not like this other people. Genduje has to put an end to his no male in the same tricycle with the female thing because the people rejected it.
Bro just forget o. Our elders kill us and we don't like them. The Amotekun they brought should have come in to existence long before now.
My opinion though. You are right though. I just hope we could get some reasonable people at the helms of affairs |
Politics › Re: Malami Explains Why Amotekun Is Illegal by Otsam(m): 8:09am On Jan 16, 2020 |
Yahksbiz: Is sad.
I used to wonder if it had been police or some government agencies they recruited people in it would had ease the unemployment in the country. But all this is done to favour their people.
From Lagos to the north now the west.
It all favoritism, a kind of way to help boast employment in their constitute.
is not totally bad o. But this can denial others the right to be employ. If some part of government responsibilities have been stolen where do you expect the Federal government to made a huge impact on creating jobs.
This is incriminating on others, let Federal government abolish all second class forces and give employment to the people or let them restructure the Constitution. You are right and I like your opinion but what if in the situation where it has always been the north opposing restructuring, yet they are using double standards. Why is a particular region having a field day in regional decision making and other regions that tries it would be seen as rebels? You are right that the federal government should be the one to handle security and thereby provide more employment but what of the case that a particular region gets the highest quota in recruitment?and the federal that’s supposed to monitor the security of the masses is displaying their lackadaisical attitude when bandits/terrorists invaded their subjects region. Necessity they say is the mother of invention. Since they felt hisbah is what the north needs and they didn’t proscribe it,then they shouldn’t rush to proscribe what other region deem necessary for them as well. |
Politics › Re: Malami Explains Why Amotekun Is Illegal by Otsam(m): 4:20am On Jan 16, 2020 |
Yahksbiz: By Soni Daniel
The Federal Government, Tuesday, adduced reasons, why the new paramilitary outfit ‘Amotekun’ bankrolled by the governors of the South-West to reduce security challenges in the region, could not be validly allowed to operate, describing it as illegal and a nullity.
The government in a position made public by the Attorney General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Abubakar Malami, also accused the South-West governors of not consulting it before launching the security outfit, thereby bringing avoidable trouble upon their Malami in a statement made available to Vanguard by his Special Assistant on Media and Public Relations, Dr. Umar Gwandu, explained that the issue of defence of the country is expressly vested on the federal government through the Exclusive List and that no other tier of government has been saddled with any power to act in that area.
Malami said: “The Federal Republic of Nigeria is a sovereign entity and is governed by laws meant to sustain its corporate existence as a constitutional democracy. It is a Federation of states, but with the Federal Government superintending over matters of national interests. The division of executive and legislative authority between the Federal and State Governments has been clearly defined by the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (as amended). “It is against the same background that matters relating to the peace, order and good government of the Federation and in particular, the defence of the country, are enshrined in the Exclusive Legislative List. The Second Schedule in Item 17 deals with defence. This is a matter that is within the exclusive operational competence of the Federal of Government of Nigeria. No other authority at the state level, whether the executive or legislature has the legal authority over defence. “The setting up of the paramilitary organization called “Amotekun” is illegal and runs contrary to the provisions of the Nigerian law. The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (as amended) has established the Army, Navy and Airforce, including the Police and other numerous paramilitary organisations for the purpose of the defence of Nigeria.
“As a consequence of this, no State Government, whether singly or in a group has the legal right and competence to establish any form of organization or agency for the defence of Nigeria or any of its constituent parts. This is sanctioned by the provision of Item 45 of the Second Schedule of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) authorizing the Police and other Federal Government security services established by law to maintain law and order.
“The law will take its natural course in relation to excesses associated with organization, administration and participation in “Amotekun” or continuous association with it as an association.
“Finally, it is important to put on record that the Office of the Attorney General and Minister of Justice was not consulted on the matter. If it had, proper information and guidance would have been offered to ensure that Nigeria’s defence and corporate entity are preserved at all times,” the minister said.
It will be recalled that ‘Operation Amotekun’ had taken off on a fragile note last Friday with three of the six governors of the South-West not in attendance, apparently due to political pressures.
Although each of them advanced reasons to justify their absence, the emerging opposition by the federal government to the outfit appears to vindicate their fears. As a consequence of this, no State Government, whether singly or in a group has the legal right and competence to establish any form of organization or agency for the defence of Nigeria or any of its constituent parts. This is sanctioned by the provision of Item 45 of the Second Schedule of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) authorizing the Police and other Federal Government security services established by law to maintain law and order. So the federal competence does not reach north or the not is not governed with the Nigeria constitution that made hisbah legal while Amotekun illegal? It’s quite disheartening how men could bastardize his own integrity, profession and common sense because of another human like him maybe in the quest of finding favor or whatever it may be. |
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Politics › Re: Amotekun: Northern Youths Kick, Call On President Buhari To Ban It by Otsam(m): 6:36pm On Jan 10, 2020 |
I don’t Wallade: Please explain how Hisbah is constitutional I want to be educated on Hisbah and it's constitutionality. That’s sarcasm up there. You can see I added a question mark. |
Politics › Re: Amotekun: Northern Youths Kick, Call On President Buhari To Ban It by Otsam(m): 8:46am On Jan 10, 2020 |
Staro: The Northern Youths Council of Nigeria on Thursday kicked against the formation of ‘Operation Amotekun’ in the Southwest geopolitical zone of the country.
According to the NYCN, the security outfit inaugurated in Ibadan on Thursday is the “military wing” of the Oodua Peoples Congress.
It added that the newly established security outfit is in the league of the proscribed Independent Peoples of Biafra.
National President of NYCN, Alhaji Isah Abubakar, in a statement issued in Kaduna, urged the President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.), not to allow what he described as “unconstitutionality” to prevail.
Abubakar said, “Amotekun Group in Southwest is OPC Military wing in disguise and in the same league with the proscribed IPOB. The President must not allow this unconstitutionality to prevail.
“The Southwest Governors must desist from backing nefarious groups such as this one.
“Amotekun is a threat to peace and national security and an attempt to jeorpadize Nigeria’s sovereignty.
“Amotekun is no different from Boko Haram and IPOB Movement in their formative stages.
“Nigerian Police, DSS and Army shouldn’t take this lightly with the governors of Southwest.
“The National Security Adviser should promptly take steps that will avert the looming threat to our national security that is about to be threatened by Southwest governors, OPC and others,” Abubakar said.
https://punchng.com/northern-youths-kick-against-amotekun-say-outfit-opc-military-wing/amp/ But hisbah is constitutional?
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