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PabloAfricanus:Calm down bro..... No be fight ![]() |
MrAnalyst:Yea.... That's why I said its better to team up as one and give the hausa-fulani and yoruba a run for our resources instead of claiming minorities. So though I'm ukwuani, I would never deny that I'm igbo |
Ishilove:Same for my mom... even in late 50s she can still sprint.... And trek very fast. The height disparity between my dad and mom now is like difference between palm tree and orange tree ![]() But if you want to live a life free from back pain, thigh/leg pain when you get old... The short gene is the way to go. ![]() |
Igboid:1. Based on point one, since there was nothing like igbo back then, do you think ukwuani, ikwerre, ika etc folks are right to reject being called "igbo "? E.g.... "I am Ukwuani... I am not igbo because there was nothing like "igbo " before the white man came "... Ngwa man is simply Ngwa... Osha man is simply Osha... Ndienigu are simply Ndienugu... Ukwuani is simply Ukwuani... Ikwerre is simply ikwerre.... There's nothing like "Igbo " Do you see ' reason ' in the above statement? |
Ishilove:You no dey go farm nau... ![]() If you dey go farm... Sometimes you will see them comfortably carry tree trunks (firewood) on their head after farm to house. Seriously, their trait is fast disappearing as no one wants to born short children anymore so two "shorties " wouldn't "fvck " ![]() |
PabloAfricanus:@ PabloAfricanus, Igboid, SlayerSupreme .... A quite question here... Please I'll a appreciate straight answer ![]() Do you agree with the notion that there was nothing like Igbo before the white man came? ![]() |
Interesting lecture dear Ishilove.... This is what I want to hear... Not crazy rantings from that asha baby... Back to topic... I'm Akashiede... And I'm proud of it. But aboriginal ukwani is something that is very hard to picture in my mind.... Like Ugomba noted ... "From where did the aboriginals migrate? " If I look and examine my people physically... Some old people ... They're usually short and dark in complexion... They're short, at most 4-5ft (not dwarf though).. And dark/deep brown in complexion.... The other people on the other hand are tall (6-7ft) and fair in complexion... I supposed the tall and fair folks are those who migrated from the Asaba side cos they same physical features .... But the old, short and dark ppl, I don't know where they come from.... No idea.... And their gene is ' almost gone" among from the younger generation. My great grandpa... They say he's a tall and fair man... Married a short dark woman... My grand uncles arr mostly tall and fair but curiously, my grandpa took his mom's features ... He was short, slim and dark in complexion... His children (My dad, uncles and aunties except one aunt) are all tall and fair... Only one of his children took the short/dark gene.Now... Nobody among me and cousins are short/dark The thing I admire most about the dark-short-slim ukwuani people is... They are very strong and often outlive their tall-fair counterparts by many decades.... While the fair guys start dying when they reach 70-80... The short dark ones live up to 110-130 years old... Amazing ...!!.. but the downside is that... They're not intelligent. ... They're just content with living everyday as it comes... Just eat, sleep, marry, farm, born children, have fun... Thats all...They don't have ambition. The mentality s still veey much among ukwuani people .... And I hate it. I really have no idea of where the short/dark folks come from as I haven't seen them anywhere else outside ukwuani land. So ... On the aboriginal ukwuani people, you have a point as I have seem them... I dont even know those people are a treasure ... If i go to the village soon, I will snap a picture of an old aunt with the aboriginal features and keep the pixs for future reference. @ Ugomba : these ukwuani aboriginal folks... They're dull o. Asking them where they come from is like pouring water into basket ... Theyre not literate... If u press them with hard questions, they will stand up and run away. Back to the igbo debate... True... There's really nothing like "igbo " before the white man came. Someone told me Enugu people were called "Ndienugu "... Hill people ... Just like you mentioned Ndiosumili... Riverine people ... Owerre man is simply owerre... Oka (Awka) man is simply awka... All the clans were like different countries to each other.... The was nothing like "igbo "... It was for political and administrative classification ... That was how the British woke up and called everyone in the east of the Niger "Igbo "... They tried the same trick with Ukwauani by tagging them "kwale "... So while the people in the east of the Niger accepted the "igbo " tag, .... Ukwuani rejected the kwale tag. So... In reality ... If we all mentally go back to the 15th-16th century ... There was really nothing like "igbo ". So I fully understand why ukwuani/ikwerre folks get offended When they are called "igbo "... Before the white man came, there was nothing like "igbo " so why are you calling me igbo?? ?? ?? But for me, the reason why I wouldn't get offended if I'm called "igbo " is the same reason why I wouldn't get offended if someone calls me "kwale "... To me, (and most Nigerians) igbo is a term used to describe the tribes from around /east lower niger..... The real tribes... Are in their respective villages and clans.... I have been to Nnewi and Onitsha festivals and I can say... Nnewi and osha ppl are very distinct .... So... I can say... Ukwuani is a tribe of its own if I use pre-16th century perspective .... But the reality in today's world and Nigeria in particular is that... Portraying yourself as minority is like using your hand to scatter your own food. There is strength in numbers. Hausa/fulani/kanuri have teamed up as one... Egba, ijebu, Oyo, ekiti and co teamed up to form yoruba.... These people are the ones that benefitting most from Nigeria. So for I think it will actually do us a lot more good if we in the east can team up and give hausa/yoruba a run for our resources so brazenly being exploited. That is why I wouldn't take offense if anyone calls me igbo... ![]() |
asha90:Eh eh.. see baby... Don't dare remove that pix Now I can see you're a child... Hey junior... Go and me your Mama .. Mommy is calling you to come and eat. This place is for mature ppl and not for babies . |
asha90:You're very stvpid... You have no home training ... No table manners... No common sense...!!.. Your mother deserves flogging for bringing up a boy to be gossiping like you're doing. It's like you're the only boy in the midst of six sisters to I don't blame u for acting lik a pvssy. A mature man would simply ignore and walk away If you insult my sister again, heaven will crash on your mango head ![]() |
Ishilove:How can ukwani say they migrated from Benin with whom they have nothing in common in terms of language and culture? Where did ukwani people migrate from?? ?? If you say ukwani migrated from Benin.... I reject it ..... cos ukwani language and culture has nothing to do with Benin. If you call me ukwani person, okay... If you call me igbo man, if you don't understand that different people have different origins and not just one signals place, is okay, that's your level of understanding, please yourself... Because it's tiring having to lecture my clan origin every time to every (unaware/prejudiced/stereotypical) Tom, Dick and Harry... ![]() |
Igboid:Lack of traveling is the reason for the ignorance. A lot of ukwani people don't know igbo and ukwani are same because they only travel west... They don't know what enugu, imo, awka are like. I was surprised to learn there are communities in enugu that share same name with ukwani communities ... There's Abor, Abbi, Onicha and oda names i cant remember are same in both ukwani and enugu. The local dialet is the same. But because they don't travel east, they don't know. Ukwani ppl who deny igbo more vehemently are those whose surname have hints of benin in it... Such as Osakwe, Osakuni, Egba, Ojo.... According to them, since they dont bear igbo surname, then they aren't igbo. There's also the inferiority complex... Most ukwani ppl feel inferior in the midst of other igbo speaking people .... Mostly cos of their low Education level. Anyway .... It's not by force to bear igbo... If some ppl don't want to be identified with igbo, it's their choice |
IkpuMmadu:What is wrong with that? I don't understand of South South ppl problem with Igbo.... Is it a criMe to be intelligent? Look at Ngozi Okonjo Iweala... What is wrong with if she is intelligent? No Wonder Nigeria and the south are being dominated by cattle rearers. They preferred being dominated by cows, retired semi-literate solders who have cornered half of their oil wells and other dull folks. Are igbo people preventing other tribes from sending their children to school? ![]() |
hysteriabox:1. No sane Nigerian wants it to disintegrate.... America is like that.. though they have their differences, they are not unitarized like Nigeria ... If u gives states/regions resources /financial freedom ... Honestly, they will be satisfied. What you didn't ask is... Why would states want to break away? You know the causes of the Nigerian civil war... Were the grievances of the eastern region addressed by Gowon led FG? Look at the woman who was killed for blasphemy in kano... Thousand of southerners from the east (not only igbos) were mudered like that... What did the FG do to resolved the grievances? Nothing Aburi accord was there... Did gowon adhere to it? No It's like marriage ... If you sit down with your husband / wife and work out ur differences... Ur marriage will last long its the same with reverting to regionalism... If the FG plays diplomatic /mediatory role... Even courts will be there to settle disputes... Everybody will be satisfied. 2. There's nothing like patriotism in Nigeria today... It only when they want to share money or success, that is when they are patriotic... Every other thing is tribe...!!.. Who patriotism don help sef? Will patriotism fill my belle? When agencies of government oppress the people, how will you have patriotism? If a German, American or Chinese wants to die for their country, I will understand because the government takes care of their people ... Now ask me if I can die for Nigeria ... Am I mad? Look at IDPs... Flood /disaster camps in the country ... It is the states that are managing them... Awolowo ' s free Education did magic for the western region ... If fiscal federalism will make states take Better care of their citizens, I'm all for it. 3&4 are related to my answers in 1 and 2... 5.. the same way states borrow funds... Loans, bonds, bilateral loans, BOOT and other numerous financing options ... They will take care of their needs that way.. Why should Kano give free money to Zamfara to blow? |
DEAFandDUMB:Okay... Personally... I don't understand why Northerners are against restructuring the country even when they know the present system is also improverishing them. After producing most of the country ' s rulers, they still don't have anything to show for it and are even worse than the south in terms of human capital development. The fact that people divorce doesn't stop people from getting married .... So why should the fear of secession make them stand so strongly against fiscal federalism, regionalism or confederation? All these talks about Nigeria disintergrating... Forget it... No sane Nigerian wants Nigeria to break because we all have interests in other parts of the country. But I cannot say... Because we stand to lose properties or whatever, ... That doesnt mean We should continue to endure bad government, dilapidated infrastructure, epileptic power supply till heavens know when Nigeria will overcome all these challenges with the present system of government. Properties /Business can be rebuilt within 10-15 years so the fear of lose properties or business does not scare me. I just hate it when... Before I can do anything, I have to go lick federal bum bum before I can do what I want to do... It discourages investments. If they will restructure the country, fine... But if they don't agree, I cannot continue to endure Nigeria the way it is. Person is eating jeje at restaurant and police stray bullet go shot am dead... What kind of nonsense is that? Everybody should go their way jare. |
Tunda faya you and all your descendantsDEAFandDUMB ... It's your thread ... I believe you saw all the trash he posted. Please try and maintain sanity on your thread by cautioning folks who use strong words and abusive languages here... Cos things like these repulse people from participating... If anyone insults me here again, I'm out. |
Before... mikolo80: Quote it from the constitution.Now... You modified an earlier comment after I had showed you the section mikolo80:You are very confused... E be like say sleep dey worry you... Go to bed my son. And dont quote me again cos if u do, I will not reply you |
mikolo80:Why are u quick to abusing people? Did I insult you? Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution verbatim. The Section provides: (1) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in this Constitution, but subject to subsection (2) of this section - (a) No civil or criminal proceedings shall be instituted or continued against a person to whom this section applies during his period of office; (b) A person to whom this section applies shall not be arrested or imprisoned during that period either in pursuance of the process of any court or otherwise; and (c) No process of any court requiring or compelling the appearance of a person to whom this section applies, shall be applied for or issued: Provided that in ascertaining whether any period of limitation has expired for the purposes of any proceedings against a person to whom this section applies, no account shall be taken of his period of office. (2) The provisions of subsection (1) of this section shall not apply to civil proceedings against a person to whom this section applies in his official capacity or to civil or criminal proceedings in which such a person is only a nominal party. (3) This section applies to a person holding the office of President or Vice-President, Governor or Deputy Governor; and the reference in this section to "period of office" is a reference to the period during which the person holding such office is required to perform the functions of the office. I have provided the section for you... It is you... Your ancestors ... Descendants and entire generation that thunder will fire... Tsunami back to sender...!!.. ![]() |
mikolo80:Dangote is not a state... Dangote is private investor... Capitalism... The same states that are broke and cannot pay salaries... You say states should build this and build that... That is .. socialism.. we had nepa, nitel, Nigerian airways, Nigerian rail... States have their own industries and corporations too... Where are all of them now? They are moribund because the states cannot manage them Dangote... All the industries in Malaysia ... They are privately owned.... They're not run by states... Is it states that built Dangote cement factories? Is it Lagos state government that is building dangote refinary? Why then are u saying states should waste money building industries and infrastructure they cannot optimally manage? I hope you studied government in secondary school... Maybe you were science student in SSS and didn't study government. Are you for socialism or capitalism ...?? Because ... You seem to be jamming the two together |
engrhorla:Maturity is not a matter of age. There are young people who are wise and old people who are foolish. Technically speaking, young people are more skilled than old people ... The people who are running Nigeria ' s democracy are not 16 years old... Buhari has been in government since when? He was petroleum minister in 1976.. head of state in 1982 ... Ptdf chairman under Abacha... Though democracy is 16 yrs old... The people who run it are not kids... They are grand parents They have not changed since the last 16 years... If we give them another 16 or even 30 years, do u think they will change? Lost time can never be recovered ... Why are we wasting precious time on a system where everything is do or die affair and why should we devoted more precious time to the same faulty system? If your TV at home is not working ... Take it for repairs.... If it doesn't work properly after repairs, throw it away and buy new TV Who has time for nonsense? |
lionshare:How many tribes or ethnic groups are in Germany, Canada, USA, India or Switzerland ... Compared to Nigeria? We all read advantages and disadvantages of various systems of government in school nau. If there are few ethnic groups in a country, you may adopt unitary/central system of government ... Switzerland land mass is very small so federalism does not suit it. But in a country like Nigeria where you have over a hundred ethnic groups... Hausa, igbo, yoruna, bini, kanuri, urhobo, tiv, idoma, efik, ijaw, ijebu, fulani.... And you want to practice unitary system of government ... That country will never work... Because ... Even though they are jammed into one country, they will never work together. If one tribe want to do this, the other tribes will do all they can to frustrate them. IBB Frustrated Abiola... Abacha locked up obasanjo... Obasanjo frustrated Atiku... Boko haram frustrated GEJ... Buhari locked up Nnamdi Kanu... Niger Delta militants are frustrating Buhari... You see am? Do u still think strong Center fits Nigeria? |
engrhorla:How old is Nigeria that it is too young to practice fiscal federalism? The last states creation was in 1996... 2016 makes it 20 years... How old is Nigeria that it is too young? Malaysia, Indonesia, India, Egypt all got independence around the same time with Nigeria ... Nigeria was better than them... Today, they are far ahead of Nigeria . How old is Nigeria again that it is too young to practice fiscal federalism? How many years old must Nigeria be before it can practice federalism? |
mikolo80:Though I am pressed to, I don't want to insult you... IGP (Tafa Balogun) is an employee of the FG.... He was not prosecuted while in office ... He first sacked by obasanjo (no more immunity) before he was arrested and charged to court and convicted... Same with Ibori... Ibori was inly arrested and jailed when he left office. Immunity clause says you cannot prosecute a serving political Official .. serving... And before court can convict him, he has to leave office first. Now tell mw who cannot read btw me and you? The other People you mentioned ... Farouk... Saraki... Even tinubu was charged to the CCT ... Was any of them ever convicted or jailed? Yes or No? If your answer in No, don't quote me again |
lionshare:Okay sir... That precedent that set it... Let's deal with it No more immunity clause and free federal allocation ... Let states work for their money... Other forms of corruption will stop ...or reduce |
doveda:Honestly, just as I didn't know you take exception to being prayed for in Jesus name, your Christian friends may not know you don't like it. If you tell them you don't like it, they will pray general "God bless us" prayer or keep quiet. |
lionshare:Do you know how many political organs are in Nigeria from federal to ward level? How many local government chairmen... How many councillors Add federal and 36 states legislators... State and and federal ministries... Government parastals like Nnpc, Customs, Faan... If you sue customs or nnpc will they obey court order? Now multiply you. 1% times all these organizations.. senate, house of rep, 36 states house of assemblies... 774 LGAs... Thousands of councillors...How many federal and 36 states ministries... Over 5,000 people with political immunity... Now multiply that with your 1% ... You see am? |
lionshare:Where were the weaker states created from? Nigeria went from 3 regions to 4 regions and then 12 or so states to 23 states and to present 36! If you revert everything back to 4 regions, nobody is going to die. The same way they were sustaining themselves b4 they were split is the same same way they will sustain themselves if you merge them again |
lionshare:If you put yam in front of a goat, will it not eat the yam? Immunity clause and free federal money iare the reasons why corrupt is reasons why corruption is rampart in nigeria instead of receiving monthly allocation for doing nothing, Remove immunity clause and let states work for their revenue... Den any politician well make he steal oe naira. |
989900:It is a step that begets the Journey of a thousand miles... When will the FG start helping or preparing "weaker" states? If a state is weak and cannot sustain itself, it has no business being a state... In the world... It's the fittest that survive ... Why are we wasting funds and energy on "weak " states? How will weak states become strong when we continue to pamper them for their weakness ... Look at the Educationally less developed states clause ... In the law was enacted in 1970s or so... Over 40 years, the same states, despite of the advantages accorded them are still educationally less developed in 2016! When are they going to become developed ![]() Is it right and fair that weaker states are tying down other states from moving on as fast as they can? Shey because you neighour is driving 504 on the express means If you have range rover sport, you should park ur range rover at home or if u drive it, you must not overtake your neighbor? The people who made laws for this country are very very stvpid ![]() Zamfara is a less developed state... Ebonyi is less developed too... Ebonyi is willing to adopt federalism so she can better exploit her abakaliki rice, export it and use accrued revenue to build her needed infrastructure ... Zamfara is against federalism... Is it right that Zamfara is tying down Ebonyi? This situation is fvck up. |
mikolo80:Immunity clause in the constitution says you cannot sue, prosecute or charge a serving political office holder or his appointees to cour Until their tenure is over. So if a governor like, he can eat 50billion... Nobody can touch him ... And after his tenure, he contest for House of rep or senate... And goes scott free with his loot. It is the system ' s fault |
mikolo80:You are wrong sir... There are some things called "Federal Exclusive " list.... Power, Rail, Police, Ports and othrr critical infrastructure are at the exclusive prerogative of the federal government.... States has no right to undertake FG exclusive projects. This is why states hardly repair federal roads... its same reasons why all ports are owned by FG... Delta and Akwa Ibom tried to build their own sea ports and were frustrated. Look at your power grid... You can't generate power without federal license and the power u generate will be shared people u don't know while your state is in darkness. Delta state has 3 power plants and yet power is erratic in Asaba... If you were the governor, will u build another power plant? That is why we have epileptic power in Nigeria. So states can't just build anything they like. Whatever they want to build, they have to ship it to lagos and haul by trucks to their respective states.... All these useless laws limits and restrict investments. That is why it is better for Nigeria to revert to regionalism... Let people build whatever they want and keep it instead of chasing federal approval and then sharing their sweat with people they dont know |
Fourwinds:Please stop patronizing me with useless statements. Have you seen person with cancer b4? Even your President Buhari... Did he know his "ailments" will deteriorate a year after winning election? Do you know if you will have headache or body pain next tomorrow? I would never use Buhari ' s illness to abuse or mock him... I'm tired of exchanging tirade with u. Our arguments aren't adding any value to me so I'll move on. Apologies if I offended you. Goodluck. ![]() |
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