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Nadaken:
2016 he was picked by oshomole, he never voted before then.

Everyone was against his imposition and godfatherism by oshomole, he didn't even talk Oshomole talked for him cum rigged him in

But there was no fuss from obaseki then but he suddenly found his moral values in 2020

The truth is that most Nigerians have double standards when it comes to the issues of Morality and/Corruption

Igbochief001:
Honestly tinubu should have stayed clear of edo elections ....this is bad for APC honestly

First ganduje now tinubu trying to tell edo people what to do ? ...a Yoruba man telling edo what to do ?

This was like when obj said he wanted to settle Andy uba with anambra ...that's how Andy lost the election

Them for cucuma bring yahaya hello na

Andy Uba actually won the Anambra Governorship election and was sworn-in as Governor but only lasted 10 days.

SpecialAdviser:
Ugwuanyi is better than occultist Chimaroke bros. At least he is not taking Enugu back to the time of air shoot.
Sullivan is better than Ugwuanyi but the later is surely better than Chimaroke.

What's air shoot?

RuudVanNisteroy:
Lagos refused access to Alpha Beta contracts, and said the laws don't apply at state level. The day the books of Lagos are opened, all the zombies including you will hold the Chicago druglord by the neck.

Can you imagine Alpha Beta was written into Lagos state tax law . The state House of Assembly will have to amend the law to remove Alpha Beta from collecting 10% of Lagos IGR.

You haven't said anything new.

You and so many others having been making grave allegations about a man.

Then sue the man to court based on the evidence obtained from your sources but you are giving excuses that the state Government is not doing this or that. Use your sources where you got all these info to sue the man to court.

Private citizens on their own can sue a private citizen to court ,even on corruption cases if they have enough evidence to back up their allegations.

Kriss216:
We say NO to Tinubu and his principalities.

We're Edolites, we're not slaves!

People like you don't understand how democracy works.

Tinubu is not contesting any election.
It is political parties that run for elections and Tinubu like so many other Nigerians belong to one of the political parties in the race, the APC.


The APC has a formidable structure on ground and stands a good chance to win come tomorrow, Separate 19,2020.

Kriss216:
godfatherism has no stay in Edo State. Edo is not Lagos.



God bless Edo
God bless Obaseki




Shame on Ambode!

So which party do you think will win eventually?

ivandragon:
How will that work when the state government refuses to release information needed to show the grand larcerny that was & is still occuring in Lagos?

If I go to court & the state government refuses to release the necessary documents to verify my petition, how can I make headway?

Just the little information released by ambode on fash's corruption has not seen light of day at EFCC much less bat's...

Even at that, what is EFCC doing with the petitions against him on the Bullion vans & AlphaBeta issues?

But even without the information released by the State,we have continously been inundated with accussations of how Tinubu embezzled the finances of Lagos State.
Those who make these grave allegations must be able to prove them using the same sources they used to get these information.

RuudVanNisteroy:
"In 1989, Moss said in an affidavit, Tinubu established an individual money market account, into which he deposited $1,000 in traveler’s checks, and a negotiable order of withdrawal account (NOW) at First Heritage Bank in Country Club Hills, Illinois.The address Tinubu gave the bank was the same as the listed headquarters of Globe-Link International, the front company owned by Akande and his relatives."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nigerian-pres-svengali-tied-to-heroin?ref=scroll

Tinubu was very close with the cocaine kingpin Akande. Why are you denying the fact he was very close with the two cocaine kingpins and knew them intimately and not some random investors?

You don't seems to understand the law.

An accussed can only be held responsible for HIS crimes and not the crimes committed by his very close friends, father, mother, brother, spouse or business associate.

The fact that your roommate and a close friend in school was a cultist who raped a fellow student doesn't mean you can be accussed of the same crimes.

Intelligent argument, backed by concrete EVIDENCE win cases in courts.


Was Tinubu ever convicted in any court in the US?

ivandragon:
Lol...

Look at how some people are defending an obviously corrupt BAT...

The solution to this matter is simple, let Lagos state domestic the FOI Act...

You don't need the FOI to fight your battles against Tinubu either in the court or on social media where you have already declared him guilty.

Why can't you sue Tinubu directly to court, he has no immunity?

MartinsOnyx:
Stop trying to defend the indefensible. It really makes you look stupid

Argue your case intelligently and stop playing to sentiments.

If the case gets to a law courts, sentiments will not win your arguments.

RuudVanNisteroy:
They were not investors, but directors in his company. He had a close relationship with with both cocaine kingpins that had operations that stretched from Chicago to West Africa.

In most companies, depending on the types, directors are chosen from the shareholders (Investors) in the companies or someone representing the shareholders.

You can't be a director in International Breweries or John Holts, if you aren't a shareholder

RuudVanNisteroy:
He had not one with two kingpins of cocaine that had a network that stretched from Chicago to West Africa as directors in Compass Investment ,which was a private company and not public company.

Your arguments look like mere beer parlour gossip inchorently delivered.


A public Company in this case doesn't necessarily mean a PLC.

Members of the board of directors can act independently of one another.

RuudVanNisteroy:
In the corruption capital of the world, yes. And it is against the money laundering act, which prohibits moving more than N5 million naira physical cash for civilians.

And also an electoral crime inducing voters.

How much was in the Bullion van?
Any evidence that this contradict the law?
Can you paste a copy of the withdrawal form from the bank to support your accusations sir?

chrisxxx:
Lol. Afonja leave that thing. Edo is not Lagos

Come Saturday, you will see people saying 'Edo is not Abia '

prophetfire:
. 'cos you and him smoke at the same joint.

Check the poverty rates in each of the Geo-Political zones.

prophetfire:
. South East poorest region in southern Nigeria? What version of weed do you smoke?

The guy is right.

proeast:
Don't get it twisted, he is right, Lagos is no man's land so far Nigeria remains one country. Same way Abuja is a no man's land. They were developed with national resources and will remain national heritage unless Nigeria breaks up then it can be yours. Or why do you think anybody can aspire and win political positions in those places without being an indigene of those places?

Who asked you where is no man's land and how is it related to your propanda Topic that Awolowo introduced Indigenization decree in 1972?

If that is your definition of no man's land, then Enugu, Imo and Anambra are also no man's land because they are built with monthly Federal allocations.



It's either you are accusing Awolowo ,Gowon, Benjamin Adekunle, Murtalar Muhammed or even Britain of being against you and being the cause of your predicaments but you never blame yourselves or your leaders for your predicaments.

On every social media, you guys like to be fighting and attacking Yorubas, Hausa-Fulani, Ijaws, southern minorities if they declare that they are not part of Biafria or even some Igbo clans for not being Igbo enough.

At the same time, you like to always play the victim card that other Nigerians hate you or are marginalizing you.


Lean to avoid unnecessary controversies and get along well with other Nigerians.

Rugaria:
Lagos is a no man's land! Get used to that or you break away from Nigeria and run your new Afonjaistan with the proceeds from your cocoa sales.. As long as Lagos is still in Nigeria, the man from abakaliki has the same equal rights there with FELLOW MIGRANTS from Oshogbo like you...

You keep ranting randomly echoing your frustrated thoughts, answering questions that were never asked.

Who said anything about the rights of Ebonyi people are lower than the rights of other Nigerians in Lagos?

Dangote all the way from Kano is building the largest refinery in Lagos and we don't see anyone saying he has limited rights neither do we see Hausa people screaming 'Lagos is no man's land'.
Only people from your ethnic group do such and at the same time you also like to claim other Nigerians hate you.

Learn to get along with other tribes instead of courting unnecessary controversies

If Lagos is no man's land, then Enugu, Onitcha and Aba are also no man's land.

Rugaria:
You can not argeu that the ikwerres are not igbos while ATTACHING BY FORCE to the Aworis and the Eguns who are the REAL and ORIGINAL OWNERS of Lagos... Go back to your Oshogbo and develop and stop dragging Lagos with the owners..

What is my business with Ikwerres and how do they come into History and demography of Lagos State?

About 95% of Indigenes of Lagos have never heard of anything called Ikwerres and call anybody that comes after Bini 'Omo-Ibo'

Uncle Femoo, we are enjoying and following your tours but you need to tell us who exactly is bankrolling this tour sir.

Rugaria:
Lagos is the land of the Aworis and NOT the land of the Yorubas according to the Oba of Lagos himself!!! Please Be guided....

Then as a Professor of Lagos Affairs, you need to tell us who are the Aworis.










Many of you don't even know where Lagos begins and end but like to form experts on Lagos History.

Egun, Ijebu, Aworis are all indigenous people in Lagos State (which is NOT exactly the same thing as Lagos State just like Enugu is NOT exactly the same as Enugu State) whose territories are also contigous and extend to Ogun State.

Maduawuchukwu:
At the end of the day we have all seen that indigenisation did not lead to prosperity for Nigerians in the long run. The same foreign investors we chased away with the decree are now the ones we are pursuing all around the globe to invest in Nigeria. If the government was desirous of improving the capacity of Nigerians to take part in the Nation's economy, there were many other ways to ensure that other than indigenisation.

I think you don't fully grasp what really happened with the Nigerian Enterprise Promotion Decree (a.k.a Indigenization decree).

That law grouped enterprises into three categories.

1) Phase-1: small scale businesses which Indigenous Nigerians could do well were reserved exclusively for Nigerians and foreigners were stopped from participating in such businesses.

Now think about the Billions of dollars made by Nigerians from importation, distribution and sales of Automobile spare parts, Stationaries, Textile materials, building materials, Pharmaceuticals etc.

There won't be anything like Lapido auto markets, Balogun Markets, Alaba International Market, Trade Fair markets all operated by Nigerians if such businesses were still allowed to be dominated by European, Indian and Lebanese marchants/companies like John Holts, CFAO, A.G Leventis, PZ, MDS, Kingsways, Dominos, Bhojsons etc.

As at 1975, my grandfather used to take his Mercedes Benz Car from Ilesha, Osun to Leventis Motors, Lagos (the sole distributor for Mercedes Cars) for servicing and maintenance.

Auto Companies like like Datsun (now called Nissan) entered Nigerian markets in the 1970s by having Nigerian Business Man, the late Arisekola-Alao as their sole distributor.

2) Phase-2: these category must make 60% of their ownership shares open to Nigerians e.g Banking on account of which the FG bought substantial shares in First Bank &Union Bank, Food &confessionaries like Nigerian bottling Companies, Breweries like Guinness Plc, Transport &Haulage companies like Khaleel &Dibbo etc

3) Phase-3: These category must make 40% of the shares base available for Nigerians.
In this group are highly technical and capital intensive businesses like Oil& Gas e.g Total Place, Mobil Plc and Construction firms like Julius Berger, Cappa &'Alberto, Arab Contractors

What a sacrilage!

Can he do that within the premises of a Central Mosque and expect their indescent team to leave the place in peace?

Maduawuchukwu:
At the end of the day we have all seen that indigenisation did not lead to prosperity for Nigerians in the long run. The same foreign investors we chased away with the decree are now the ones we are pursuing all around the globe to invest in Nigeria. If the government was desirous of improving the capacity of Nigerians to take part in the Nation's economy, there were many other ways to ensure that other than indigenisation.

1) It did lead to prosperity for Nigerians.
Without it Nigerians in the 1960-1980 era wouldn't have been prosperous.

2) The Foreign Companies were never sent away outrightly like it was done in Zambia and later Zimbabwe.
First Bank, Union Bank , BP (transformed to AP- Conoil), West African Larfarge, A.G Leventis, Mobil etc are still here and doing well

proeast:
Lol, stop being smart by half. All you wrote there are half truths meant to decieve the unsuspecting.

1. You claim that Awolowo had left the Gowon government before the Indignization decree was passed into law? Awolowo had already forwarded the budget and forcast for 1972 fiscal year before resigning. Again, don't you know that policies can't be implemented immediately they were hatched? For the Indignization decree to have become law by 1972 means that the idea has been deliberated upon and the memo passed much earlier! Have you forgotten or don't you know there is what is called bureucratic bottlenecks in government? It is evidently clear that Awolowo was the one that pushed for Indignization decree!!

2. Of course yes, you're now getting it, Awolowo presented it to Gowon much earlier!

3. Yes, NEPC act was aimed at transferring ownership of foreign companies operating in Nigeria to Nigerians. Now, consider this, a devastating war was fought in the East and it just ended. Worse still, those from the East who survived the war, had all their accounts frozen and a measly 20 pounds given to them regardless of whatever thousands or millions they had in their accounts prior to the war. As if that was not enough, they all lost their jobs! So how on Earth do the architects of that Indignization decree except the Igbos to be involved in the process when they were totally emasculated?? The conditions that were attached that had to be met before one could participate even made it obvious that the objective was to totally rout them from having any stake in the economy.

4. Your point here is another attempt to decieving gullible ones. Lol, is buying and selling of stocks no longer a standard procedure for companies that are listed on the stock exchange? You sold companies in 1972 and thereabout during a time a section of the country couldn't participate. A particular section bought most of it and formed the chairman and board of directors then is there anything left? Shares that were later sold were obviously minority ones.

5. Another half truth. A company can decide not to sell its shares or just sell little. Other Nigerians buying insignificant shares later on makes no difference because the deed has been done, except on rare occasions such as during bankruptcy or takeover.

The basis for accusing Awolowo and his cohorts for those crimes is 100% in order.

You are free to hate Awolowo till eternity but these will not necessarily change the truth.

1) The agitations for indegenization of Nigerian economy started before Independence by Nigerian business men, educated elites and later political leaders supported it as a way to prevent foreign domination of the economy.
It's NOT just about Awolowo.

2) The Nigerian Enterprise Promotion Decree was signed into Law in 1972 to be implemented in April,1974.

At the initial phase, it was limited to small scale enterprises like advertising companies, retail shops, bakeries, laundries, Newspapers publications, printing, Transportation &Haulage by roads etc.

The aim was to prevent unfair competition from foreign business


This is very similar to what the Gov't of Ghana is presently doing.

3) The implementation of the law only started compelling Multinational companies to list their shares for Nigerians in the late 1970s.

It has nothing to do with Awolowo.

4) Yoruba and Igbos are not the only ethnic groups in Nigeria.

Urbobos, Ijaws, Efik, Bini, Tiv,Idoma, Beroms,Igbos, Fulanis, Kanuri, Igala, Bariba, Anaguta, etc also bought shares in these companies.

5) All over the world, wars have consequences.
I don't know how you figure out that whatever consequences the Igbos faced after the war must be blamed on the Yorubas.

Maduawuchukwu:
The purpose of the indigenisation decree was bullshit for me. Nigerians were clearly not capable of managing the multinationals present then. If they were capable, they would have founded their own companies.

Every independent Country always strive to promote the Prosperity of her own citizens first before the prosperity of outsiders.

Nigerians actually established their own companies. As a matter of fact, some of the companies mentioned in this article of propaganda were established by Nigerians e.g Odua Textiles, Ado-Ekiti, Nigerian Tribune and Wema Bank.

However, Nigeria and Nigerians before 1960 were grossly disadvantaged by colonialism to establish many companies like the Colonial powers.

goodnessme1:
But when did yorubas start caring about Igbos?

What concern Yorubas in this matter?

proeast:
Lies and more lies, but I will always counter you guys with verifiable facts.

You claimed no company was taken over by any tribe but that's fallacy, lots of foreign companies were actually taken over by the Yorubas under the guise of Indignization decree.

Now look at the following attachments and see man's inhumanity to fellow man in full glare.

As you can see, over 1000 foreign companies were affected!

Now look at the second attachment and see the stringent conditions that would totally ensure that Igbos never got involved especially bearing in mind that their bank accounts were confiscated and the maximum each person got regardless of whatever thousands or millions he had prior to the war, was a measly 20 pounds!

Did you read the screenshots at all?
It just corroborated what I have been saying that the decree provided to Nigerians to participate in the ownership structures (not the same thing as sales or take over of any company as been spuriously portrayed by IPOB propanganda).

There was no part in the article on the decree mentioning Awolowo or the Yorubas taking over any company.


Igbos like all other Nigerians face economic problems on daily basis and I don't know how this is caused by Awolowo or the Yorubas.

Rugaria:
You have to take responsibility for the calamity that your uncles have brought to Nigeria and stop trying to share the blame! You are the dangerous tribalists who less than 6 years after independence, ran back to the same colonialists you chased away to come back and help you fight a war in Nigeria. The British subsidized your oil grabbing war to the fullest but has never left again since then and this country has paid dearly for that as Shell and Co run riot.

With the north producing little or no graduates at this time, you saw the unfolding events as great opportunity to hijack the whole administrative set up of the country and all of a sudden, your mischievous leader who once flamboyantly defined Nigeria as a "geographical expression" , became the champion of Nigerias unity, so much so that he was willing to orchestrate the first black on black genocide in Africa to achieve this, thereby providing the template upon which the brutal wars in Angola, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Sudan etc were fought.

You hijacked everything thereafter; UAC, LEVENTIS, FIRST BANK, IBWA, UBA, NIGERIA AIRWAYS, NIGERIA SHIPPING LINE, NICON, the whole federal civil service and almost all quotas meant for the locals with the indigenization policies in the oil industry, the finance sector, while creating fake billionaires all over the place with spurious over drafts from the banks.. Most dangerously, you created and introduced to Nigeria, a parasitic brand of elite that became infamous for their hedonistic penchants. That's how we came to become those who block streets for "naming ceremonies" and co.., owambe to wash new car, new appointment, and for burial ceremonies of uncles that died 3 decades ago when the celebrant was still poor!

Just as one awolowo started the culture of flying around in Nigeria to campaign in choppers, you created the private jet culture that is responsible for the massive capital flight in Nigeria today as the elite embibe your ostentatious display of profilgacy! Buying houses in London to prove you have"arrived", going for "medical check-up" abroad, spraying money on musicians like drug Lords will do else where. These were all cultural trends set by a highly hedonistic Yoruba elite post civil war, based mainly on looted funds. No wonder almost all government agencies pratically collapsed as a result.

No serious minded Nigerian has the time to read your frustrations induced epistle.

Everybody is out here on a Monday morning looking for how to make their lives better.