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Hahahaha,

I advice the Nigerian government to look into the toll road debacle currently going on in South African. 5 or 6 years ago our roads agency(SANRAL) told us that they will upgrade roads and then charge toll fee for the upgrade. Nobody complained, they were happy that the roads would be upgraded. Now that the upgrades are complete, people are complaining about the fee and they're refusing to pay hahahaha.

http://www.citypress.co.za/SouthAfrica/News/Toll-roads-Sanral-heads-for-collision-20111015

Osama bin Laden gets killed and the Americans celebrate. Muammar Gaddafi gets killed and the Libyans celebrate. Because of western hype and effective propaganda, you now want the rest of the world to also celebrate death using the western premise that loss of life is justified. Americans are responsible for killing more human beings on this planet comparable to maybe Hitler's evil achievments and nobody complains because Americans are skilled at presenting justification for death. Please research the good that Gaddafi did for his people, you would wish that your leaders did even half of that. His good deeds shouldn't excuse his evil, it's just for you to have a balanced view free of western propaganda

Give it to the Americans who have been made broke by their over expenditure on defence. Every year those idiots spend around $700 billion on imaginary wars, if only they could give even half of that to the Arabs and stop bombing.

If only other countries could keep and release honest and reliable murder stats like my crime capital country South Africa.

wow

eoatech:
@ piniki. please how can i learn that on my own? do you have maybe video tutorial or e-book. so i can learn it?

Information is freely available, just type "learn python" in google search bar. Pick and choose out of the many e-books and tutorials, all of them have some value.

I learned Python 1st year at Rhodes University in SA using this:
http://www.cs.ru.ac.za/courses/CSc102/

Download the Python programming environment listed under "recommended resources" and download the textbook then you are good to go.

They teach Java and C++ in the 2nd year
http://www.cs.ru.ac.za/

Please learn Python, it's the easiest of all the languages. The Google boys built their empire on Python and they still use it extensively. Once you know Python, it will be even easier to jump to Java and C++ and most others.

Ymodulus:
Am curious to know this. Sometime ago when i first used a webhost company. They say unlinited bandwidth but they are always having problem somtime your server is down sometime errors for weeks. Now i want to get another webhost and they say 20gb. Pls i want to get this how are this bandwidth calculated.

The average website size is 200kb. If 10 people visit your site then that will use up 2mb of your bandwidth. 100 visits = 20mb, 1000 visits = 200mb, 10 000 visits = 2gb, 100 000 visits = 20gb wich will be your cap.

This is assuming that your website is simple with limited flash, no high res pictures or anything to download.

People who visit your website will most likely navigate to different pages within your site. Assuming that each visitor goes to your homepage and 4 other pages with no file to download(just browsing) that will equal to 1 visitor using 200kb * 5 = 1mb of your bandwidth. 20gb is equal to 20 000mb.

That's what capitalist do - they capitalise

nolongTing:
@paniki that post-apartheid education is terrible you have comprehension problems. @paniki do you think that just because blacks can buy a Toyota that they are successful?

Post-apartheid education is terrible: maybe it's because it was free
Toyota equals success? I don't think so, but it's a start.

nolongthing why not try to be proud of your own country.

nolongthing just doesn't want to accept black progress in South Africa even though he provides proof for it(unintentional). If we were having this debate before 1994 it would've been - white people own 100% this 100% that, white people produce 100% this 100% this. But right now things are slowly changing, black man is progressing. It's a pity that nolongthing finds it difficult to accept that. I have not denied white dominance in SA big business and other sectors, all I claim is black progress.

White people own most of the farm land which you claim to be 90%. Agriculture contributes only 2,5% of GDP (unlike Nigeria were it's nearly 50%). So this land that you keep talking about only makes up a small percentage of South African productivity

nolongthing please type ''poor white South Africans'' in google search bar. You have too much respect for white man.

You acknowledge our progress and yet you try to claim that it's not enough while you ignore the stagnation and even regression in your country. You then advice that SA should import educated Nigerians so that they can help develope SA even though they struggle to develop their own backyard. What logic is that?

nolongthing is all over the place which confuses him. Because white people dominate big business he thinks black people are not catching up. I will say it again: give us 36 years

hahaha, nolongthing is becoming funning now. He just can't get satisfied.

Nolongthing you ask about social issue, wealth inequality. You made mention of unequal eduction levels. You will probably make referrence to HIV/Aids and health. Well, all these obvious problems are being taken care of and progress is being made as I keep stressing. All of the numbers and percentage you get from the interwebs unintentionally prove the progress I'm talking about because pre 1994 the whites had 100% of everything and blacks had 0%. Things are slowly being corrected. The bulk of government expenditure goes to correcting the inequalities which concern you so much:
Education: R190 billion/$27 billion
Social service: R147 billion/$21 billion
Economic affairs: R131 billion/$19 billion
Housing: R122 billion/$18 billion

Hey Olodostein I'm glad you used the past tense. Since South Africa chooses not to remain stagnant it is now being built by mainly black people. Go to any random construction site in SA and see what skin pigmentation the engineers have, ask them where they got the money to build whatever they are building, then ask them about the skin colour of the architect that designed the project they are building.

White people built most of what you see in Lagos but you people seem not to be building anything new for yourselves by yourselves.

You have too much respect for Jews. What you don't know is that Jews intergrate themselves in the communities and nations they settle and they end up adopting that nation as their first nation with which they identify. Every Jew in SA considers himself to be South African first and a Jew after just like I consider myself a South African first and a Motswana after. You Nigerians like to subdivide each other within your nation thus creating conflict instead of unity. Which nation has ever progressed without being unified?

nolongTing:
Then answer my posts above then LOGICALLY  You skipped them and started asking questions about Nigeria - which I answered honestly.  Please answer objectively and stop complaining;  please show us the Blek Owned businesses in South Africa with their inventions and innovations,  Why is there so much inequality? Show us the richest South Africans on Forbes list, has the black empowerment program worked? Is jacob Zuma corrupt? Is the ANC corrupt? Do Blek South Africans sell drugs? Why do so many south Africans take drugs?

[size=15pt]Please can you answer these questions once and for all.[/size]

These are some of the rich black South Africans. Some of them have benefited from BBE more than others

Phuthuma Nhleko

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-1261.jpg?1319038299

Phuthuma Nhleko is the former CEO of the MTN Group. Nhleko is also chairman and one of the founding members of Worldwide African Investment Holdings, an investment holding company with interests in the petroleum, telecommunications and IT industries. Nhleko is also a director of Johnnic Holdings, Nedbank Group and Old Mutual SA.

Sizwe Nxasana

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-999.jpg?1319039010

Sizwe Nxasana is a South African businessman. He is the Chief Executive Officer of FirstRand Limited. Sizwe served as Chief Executive Officer of Telkom SA Limited from 1998 to 2005. He served as National President of Absa Group Limited from 1991 to 1994.

Saki Macozoma

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-1131.jpg?1319039496

He is chairperson of financial institutions STANLIB and Liberty Life, deputy chairman of the Standard Bank of South Africa and a director of the Liberty Group and Volkswagen SA. He is chairperson of the President’s Big Business Working Group, co-chair of the Business Trust, Chairman of the Council on Higher Education, chairperson of the University Council of the University of the Witwatersrand and a member of the Board of Governors of Rhodes University. He is the Chairman of the Kwazulu–Natal Philharmonic Orchestra. Mr Macozoma is a significant shareholder in Safika Holdings.

Bridgette Radebe

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/Radebe_Bridgette_1380.jpg?1319043686

Chairperson: Nabera Mining (Pty) Ltd; Executive Chair: Mmakau Mining (Pty) Ltd, Houghton & Randfontein; First black SA mining entrepreneur; active in mining industries since 1976 & for past 12 years as an entrepreneur & stake holder; She was closely involved in developing the South African Mineral & Petroleum Resources Development Act and the Mining Charter.

Tokyo Sexwale

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/sexwale_tokyo_2003.jpg?1319039842

Tokyo Sexwale is the Minister of Human Settlements and presidential hopeful. He is also the founder and Non-Executive Chair of Mvelaphanda Holdings. Sexwale was a member of the World Cup 2010 Preparatory Committee and sat on the Board of Directors for 2010 FIFA World Cup. Sexwale is a member of Brookings Institution's International Advisory Council.

Herman Mashaba

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-4168.gif?1319046259

Herman Mashaba is Founder and Managing Director of Black Like Me (Pty) Ltd. He bought Black Like Me (Pty) Ltd back and re-established independence in August, 1999. Four brands were launched Black Like Me, Perfect Choice, Perfect Choice Colour and Special Solutions.

Khanyi Dhlomo

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-6295.jpg?1319046549

Khanyi Dhlomo is the Managing Director of Ndalo Media, which she founded in 2007. She is also founder of DestinyConnect and the Founding Editor of Destiny Magazine. Prior to beginning her own media company, Dhlomo served as editor of True Love magazine for eight years. She was named most influential woman in South African Media by The Media Magazine in 2003 and made the 2011 Forbes list of 20 Young Power Women in Africa.

Robert Gumede

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-44228.jpg?1319039909

Robert Gumede is a South African businessman. He is the founder of Gijima AST Group Ltd. an IT-based company in South Africa.

Patrice Motsepe

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-1140.jpg?1319040134

Patrice Motsepe is the founder and Executive Chair of African Rainbow Minerals. He is also a Non-Executive Chair of Harmony Gold Mining Company Limited as well as Chair of Naledi Mining and Future Mining. According to Forbes Magazines' 2010 list of billionaires, Patrice Motsepe is worth more than R17 billion. He is currently the richest person in South Africa according to the Business Times rich list of South Africans.

Basetsana Kumalo

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/Kumalo_Basetsana.jpg?1319043725

Bassie Kumalo is a former Miss South Africa, winning the title in 1994. She has been an Anchor Presenter for Top Billing, and was nominated by Femina Magazine as one of the Top 10 most glamorous women in South Africa. In 1999 she became the Director of the Tswelopele Group. In 2004, Tswelopele launched Top Billing Magazine, where Bassie is the editor of the magazine. In 2005 she launched Uzalile Investments. In 2009, Bassie was nominated for the Inyathelo Philanthropy Award. She is also the President of the Businesswomen's Association of South Africa, the largest business women's network in South Africa.

Ndaba Ntsele

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/Ntsele_Ndaba_1883.JPG?1319046008

Founder and Chair: Sodexho Southern Africa; Chair: Alacrity Financial Services; Chair: African Pride Hotels & Lodges; Director: Pamodzi Auctioneers.

Cyril Ramaphosa

https://www.whoswhosa.co.za/sites/default/files/imagecache/big_image/pictures/picture-1113.jpg?1319040467

Cyril Ramaphosa is a South African lawyer, trade union leader, politician and businessman. His a master mediator and business negotiator which has earned him director posts in companies like Standard Bank, MTN Group, Unilever, SABMiller and Coca-Cola Company

I hope that answers your questions. We have come a long way in just 16 years and it doesn't stop there. Of cause there's major inequality but with every year things improve. Give us another 34 years years to see how black man will emerge.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/many-of-sa-s-super-rich-are-black-1.300711

Desmond Tutu compared the ANC to the Apartheid system because the government stalled with issuing a visa to th Dalia Lama. He claims that they are being oppresive just like the apartheid years. What he failed to understand was that China is South Africa's biggest trade partner with SA exporting over $10 billion of goods to China and China is the biggest foreign investor in SA.

It irritates me when people like Nolongthing attribute current SA progress to whites, that's why I gave an outline of who our government gets money from and what they spend it on. During apartheid there were no tar roads in Soweto and other townships, go there now. During apartheid the whites didn't have money to build a high speed train link, come to Joburg now. During apartheid 95% of black people were poor and uneducated, come to SA now. During apartheid less than 20% of black people had tap water and electricity, come check now. During apartheid there was no shopping mall in any of the township, go to Soweto now. During apartheid black man couldn't afford even a cheap second hand car, come drive on our newly tared roads. I can go on and on.

[quote author=Mr--Why link=topic=783402.msg9373584#msg9373584 date=1319029552]@paniki


You have got to be objective. If you sole purpose is to come on a Naija site and undermine Nigerians. Well, you better think twice.

Let me dig out some facts. Been studying South for quite sometime. I will start with the latest one.

Why did Desmond Tutu compare ANC South Africa to the Apartheid system?[/quote]Look back on this thread to see who started the ''who's dick is longer'' debate.

martinosi:
ROFLMAO!!! dude go to sleep, u talk like u just crawled from under a rock, i guess u have never
lived in New York, London or Chicago for that matter, we all know who controls Money in the United States
and the UK! So your accusations of Bigotry are useless. I have Jewish relatives so dont even go there !!!

That's why Nigeria struggles to progress, they can't unite the same way Americans have united.

In SA we have amaXhosa, amaZulu, baSotho, baTswana, baPedi and to a lesser extent vhaVenda and others. We all get along. The inequalities in SA are being corrected and progress will continue. I still don't understand why Nigerians seem not to be progressing since they claim to be so educated. It's a case whereby a clever man has idea how to advance himself. Those Nigerians who have been educated in SA like Adze are the ones who have proper skills to do good. Last point, for every one Nigerian investing in South Africa I can easily speak about ten South Africans investing in Nigeria.

Truth is that I don't need to outline the progress that black South Africans are making coz Nolongthing and others can see it for themselves. But sometimes it's good to throw in numbers coz they are able to make the picture clear.

Nigeria's budget for 2011 was set at N4.2 trillion/$28 billion, over 90% of that revenue comes from oil which means that if oil were to dry up the FG will be broke. Most of this budget has gone to servicing recurring expenditure such as salaries and overseas trips and the rest is looted by your unscrupulous leaders. Very little is spent on capital expenditure(cap ex) or quality education which means that progress for Nigeria is dependent on foreign companies who have big enough balls to invest their own money on cap ex to prop up industry in your country. MTN which you guys now hate was the first to take such a risk to start a mobile telephony industry in Nigeria(MTN also rips us off in SA so I understand).

South Africa's budget for 2011 was set at R990 billion/$ 141billion of which R200 billion/$29 billion comes from VAT mainly from black consumers, R255 billion/$36 billion comes from individual taxpayers most of whom are black, R140 billion/$20 billion comes from corporate tax mainly from small to medium enterprises owned by black people, R35 billion/$5 billion fuel levy, additional R100 billion/$14 billion comes from other taxes like port duties. R300 billion/$42 billion is borrowed from international markets.

Unlike in Nigeria, all the money that our government has is made by everyday South Africans and therefore we have more of a claim on how that money should be spent because it's our money which we work for. As such, instead of it being looted this money this year has been spent like this:
Education: R190 billion/$27 billion
Social service: R147 billion/$21 billion
Economic affairs: R131 billion/$19 billion
Housing: R122 billion/$18 billion
Health: R114 billion/$16 billion
Police: R92 billion/$13 billion
Defence: R39 billion/$6 billion
Other: R140 billion/$20 billion

http://www.iol.co.za/business/business-news/sa-has-most-transparent-budget-process-1.1030065