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manmacho: Sir, i respect your patient and zeal for the truth. It obvious what holiness looks like in islam from the many post have seen.
Argument can't save them bro. Stop wasting your time. Best is to pray that their eyes may see the truth about Jesus the perfection of beauty.

Will do thanks.

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real2fix: y anti..islam terrorising mulism?? Why are dey they findin means of fallin islam??...c how they are kilin killing innocent muslim Muslims at gazu Gaza...yet dey they call muslim torrorist terrorists...now they produce film to insult prophet of islam...who is d terrorist ?

Relax, just grab your popcorn and enjoy the movie. You won't be terrorized cus It's not a horror movie.

vedaxcool: Will do, and some of them are actually christians, truly they whole house ok not the whole house but people keep laughing especially at the lagosshia suggestion for you



There is no harm if you decide to choose for
your mom,sisters and wives 72 male virgins
each in aljannah.you can also ask them if
they desire it "big" or just "average".they
can have 72 male virgins each but they have
to do it according to Islamic law-one at a
time for the females and ofcourse it must be
marriage and divorce one after the other
also observing Iddah perhaps.I hope they
wouldn't ask to have all the 72 at once?

Mark 10:28-31: Then Peter began to say to Him,
"See, we have left all and followed You." So Jesus
answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is
no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or
father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My
sake and the gospel's, who shall not receive a
hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers
and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.”


So why the beefing over 72 when Jesus promises 100? .

Ok now this your colleagues work thing is getting boring. Reminds me of abdulsleek he's just sleeker than you. I don't see anything funny in lagoshia's post, just sheer ignorance which i took time out to correct. But if and so called colleagues think it's funny, well it just confirms the saying that says 'Muslims are funny when they're not trying to kill us'

Well they better hurry up. Another Muhammad film is been made in Spain.

vedaxcool: Paris, it is better you save the remains of your dignity and skat, I showed everybody in my office lagosshia's rebuttal and they all busted into fits of uncontrollable laughter, wondering whether you are truly a woman who have any shred of dignity!

Thanks for spreading the message. Do keep them updated

vedaxcool: Paris has been so beaten that it is no longer responding coherently! Honor killing, mutah, denying hadith that shows the flat lies that u manufacture, oh we keep laughing at ur response!

Lol, keep updating them. i really hope it's true.

LagosShia: You can see the reply to your "bi*chitude" here:

Isn't that derogatory? If i dare retaliate mr moderator would remind me he wants to keep other in his section. Please tell whenever he wants to ban me for saying the truth as usual he should just get to it. I don't need his explanations nor care what he thinks of me.

There is no harm if you decide to choose for your
mom,sisters and wives 72 male virgins each in
aljannah.you can also ask them if they desire it
"big" or just "average".they can have 72 male
virgins each but they have to do it according to
Islamic law-one at a time for the females and
ofcourse it must be marriage and divorce one
after the other also observing Iddah perhaps.I
hope they wouldn't ask to have all the 72 at
once?

What's with men own women mentally you've been displaying? Can't mom or sister make the right decision for themselves? Why do you even need to choose for them? Anyway Bottom line this is what Allah said:
"They shall have all that they will desire with their Lord. That is the reward of the good doers." Az-Zumar Ayah 34
So every one will get whatever they want MAN or WOMEN. There is no point to argue about. Whatever the women asks for in paradise she will get so why do need to choose for anyone?

But then the bottom line is that paradise is a child’s fantasyland. You can wish anything and it will be yours. But isn’t this statement in disagreement with other verses of the Quran that clearly describe how paradise is made απϑ how many virgins men get? Suppose you want 75 or 750 whorés; can you have your wish? What if the women want 72 Latino hot guys; will Allah grant their wish? If so, why did Muhammad specifiy two in one place and seventy two in another place? Why even give a number when the choice is left up to the believer? This to me seems contradiction. Muhammad talks about four rivers of wine, milk, honey and water running in paradise. If it is up to me I like fruit juices of various kinds and champaign too with pork meats as well. And I do not like them running as rivers but rather served in bottles. Why does the Quran describe paradise when the fantasies of the believers set the limit? I was laughing the other day when a thread about levels of reward in heaven made front page. They obviously don't know about this verse that says you can get whatever you want. What if you wish for the highest reward Allah got in his stock?

My people perish for the lack of knowledge...hmm where was this said?

LagosShia: Was there the need and purpose in the time of Khadijah (as) for the Prophet (sa) to give financial and marriage comfort to widows? Could he have financially done justice to them financially,since doing justice is a prerequisite before a man can take another wife in islam ?

Yes he could've maintained financially. Khadijah was a wealthy, Muhammad was a merchant then. They were not poor so what stopped him from doing that? He couldn't risk disobeying his wealthy wife? You know Muhammad was poor orphan then, one wrong move would've seen him on the street. But when his wife died, he came to power everything changed. Why didn't he remain chaste? He even accepted women that gave themselves to him(no political move that)
Tabari IX:139 "Layla approached the Prophet while his back was to the sun and clapped him on his shoulder. He asked her who it was and she replied, 'I am the daughter of one who competes with the wind. I am Layla. I have come to offer myself to you.' He replied, 'I accept.'" [Layla shared her story with her parents.] "They said, 'What a bad thing you have done! You are a self-respecting girl, but the Prophet is a womanizer.'"

Christianity obviously have corrupted your spirit or you come from a very immoral background because as Imam Ali (as) said: an evil person will only see evil in others,and a good person will only see good in others.

That's Ali's opinion, can you tell me one good deed Muhammad did?

Abu bakr obviously wanted the Prophet (sa) to marry his daughter before the "shakara" in bukhari you quoted he was displaying the Prophet (sa) made the move to come out and ask to marry his daughter officially.it was the companions after the death of Khadijah (as) that were urging the Prophet (sa) to remarry.

Lol, where did you get all this? Ay source? Can't believe you really typed this with a straight face. Good Lord only knows what Vedax's colleagues think of this. Here's what you said earlier Amir Ali in Spirit of Islam says (on the authority of many Muslim historians like Tabari etcetera) that after the death of Khadijah Kubra with a view to cement his friendship Abu Bakr made an offer of his daughter A-isha to the Holy Prophet. At his persuasive solicitations the Holy Prophet consented.
It's obvious whoever wrote this was lying. It was Muhammad himself that wanted to marry Aisha. Abu refused because they've pledged to be each others brothers it's one of many Arabs customs. So according to their costoms Aisha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Muhammad disregarded all this, but he would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like
Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't
you marry the daughter of Hamza?"
He said, "She is my foster niece
(brother's daughter). "
Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Aisha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.
More evidence to prove it was Muhammad that wanted to marry Aisha is this hadith where he confided to Aisha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.

Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were
shown to me twice (in my dream) before
I married you. I saw an angel carrying
you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said
to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it
was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from
Allah, then it must happen.

He ended up marrying the girl of his dream. What more could a man want than marrying the girl of his dream even she's still a baby being “carried” by an Angel? it just shows that Muhammad was the one that wanted to marry Aisha even when Abu declined. You and your Pooya guy is still lying.

You're really an idio.t.a funny one for that matter

Keep insulting me, I'm not surprised.

So a community under siege and fighting for its survival and a religious community that must maintain high moral grounds,you expect a widow to "hang out" with the man she's suppose to marry? With scarcity of men and little resources and more battles impending in which men could be killed,you expect Hafsa to "date" and possible go to the Palms or City Mall to flirt,right? In fact in islam a girl not officially engaged to a male are not allowed to be together just the two of them without the girl's guardian.so there is no "tasting" or "testing" in Islam.we leave that for christians to mess around with their females.and even muslim men find the christian ladies easy target to prey on and dump because of their loose behaviour.I'm sure if you see me in real life,it won't take me more than 2 days (if you're very difficult) before I bed you if I choose to.

Wow all this fighting and killing going on, making husband scarce for women...is that all Muhammad brought to Arab people? Is it any surprise why muslims can't coexist with their neighbors?

Well,let me think of the christian alternative we see around even today.a christian man would sponsor a widow and be f*cking her when he feels the urge to.then she would be flirting around with another two men who would also be "helping" her and f*cking her when they feel the urge to and she too feels the urge.

Funny you just described Muta marriage something you said Muhammad and his companions did. Do you see how degrading all that is? I still expect Allah to come up with a better way of empowering widows. Am sure they did, you just need to try harder. Get me your Ayatollah, you must be a novice

the marriages in the time of the Prophet (sa) have many reasons behind them and social implications.you as a man don't keep a woman under your shelter and not raise suspicion.it is best for someone like a widow,you provide for her and also protect her integrity through marriage.in that way she doesn't flirt around with different men because she too have sexual feelings.our women are our honor.they don't f*ck around like others do except they want to be treated like "objects of shame" instead of a symbol of honor and integrity.

This is the root of honor killings. The feeling that Men own women like some kind of property. When that gigantic ego of Muslim man is bruised, the result is usually disastrous for the women. You and others that think alike really need rehabilitation.

How many is "many"? And who were they? Was it Safiyyah (ra) who was already having trouble with her jewish husband because of her love of the Prophet (sa) and admiration? Tell us!you think you're rude or smart.

Really? Then why was she crying when she saw how your Prophet tortured and killed her husband? [color=red](A. Guillaume (trans.), The Life of Muhammad: A translation of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah (Oxford University Press, 1978), p. 515, Cited in http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/index.php/articles/umm-ul-mukminin-safiyyah-the-jewish-wife-of-muhammadp )
“After the Messenger of God conquered al-Qamus, the fortress of Ibn Abi al-Huqyaq, Safiyyah bt. Huyayy b. Akhtab was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal, who was the one who brought them, led them past some of the slain Jews. When the woman who was with Safiyyah saw them, she cried out, struck her face, and poured dust on her head. When the Messenger of God saw her, he said, “Take this she-devil away from me!” she commanded that Safiyyah should be kept behind him and that the Messenger of God had chosen her for himself.”

Bilal brings Safiyah and her sister-in-law to Muhammad so he can choose one of them for the night while the “Mercy of Allah” PBUH had just finished killing Kinana. Upon seeing her brother’s slain body, Kinana’s young sister becomes hysterical. The Mercy of Allah slaps her face and says, “ Take this she-devil away from me .” That she-devil’s offence was to cry out upon seeing her brother’s corpse. Then this Ensaane Kaamel (perfect human) rebukes Bilal and says, “ Have you no compassion, Bilal, when you brought these two women past their dead husband and brother? ”
That is what Muslims mean when they talk about their prophet’s compassion. But if i dare write about it means am rude

Mumu girl!

Used to it your insult

^^You forgot where he said the enjoyment is for him alone and not for the believers at large?

Oh poor imams. We now where the so called stealing pastors get their inspiration from. Who would've known

^if i was lying you'd say much more than that so do us all a favor and crawl back to your hole section. I'll be paying you guys visits with aid packages(truth) anytime am not banned.

vedaxcool: We are more interested in seeing a situation where your tithe stealing pastors would see Jesus in their private Jet. Atleast he would call them gluttons.

Then your priorities are misplaced. If Muhammad was alive today what makes you think he won't have his own private jet? You talk of tithe, don't you know muslims use to pay 2% of their earning(zakat) to muhammad? He also extorts 50%(jizya) from the non muslims, something they pay in other to stay alive. He also keeps 20% of loots he got from raiding meccans, jews and everything non muslim. Not only that when some tribes surrendered without a fight, for example the Bani Nadir or the Bani Quraiza, Muhammad kept everything to himself because, as he argued, Muslims did not fight in those wars. The crooked man did not take into consideration that even though his benighted followers did not fight, the reason these tribes surrendered was because they feared the savagery of Muslims.
Then those self serving verses that allows him to have séx with any woman he wants. He's really no better than those stealing pastors. But that's not a situation you're interested in seeing now, is it?

Sweetnecta: @Davidylan: Tell me who will save the Jews from The God of Jesus? The very Jesus they hated.

Remember you said they killed Jesus, while his father did not protect him?

I am certain that his father must love him more than the jews who killed him.

When God wishes to punish a person {Ariel Sharon if you ask me] or a people [the jews have been punished before], who will stop God?

Just late last month, you must have seen what hurricane sandy [sandy is a woman] did? God has a lot of weapons to choose from. Sand, Drought, etc among them. Any of them can be used against the zionists or any group.

Hey sweetnecta where have you been? You just disappeared when this hurricane sandy started. When your muslims brothers & sisters started saying this sandy girl of a hurricane was some kind of punishment, i became worried about your safety, something they didn't think or care about! Lol, or you just shy of sandy women? no you're not! you're self proclaimed polygamist

Ah, those infidel laws in USA won't allow you fulfill this religious obligation. Have you found your way round those infidel's laws? Better do and make sure it's legitimate. If the law of the land doesn't recognize you three or four it's adultery.

Anyways that aside, it's really nice to have you back safe and sound.

LagosShia: Yes,our religion allows enjoyment through the right way and men are allowed polygamy.

Not like the hypocrites who pretend "holier than thou" and avoid women,only to rush the boys.hypocrites!

Your enjoyment is only for men obviously. They can have 4 wives with concubines, what about the women? Can the women have sex with their slave men which their 'right had Possess? No they can't, they're expected wrap themselves in bin bag and keep their modesty. Even in heaven when their husbands are having séx with their 72virgins they're supposed to just sit and watch, that's if they make it. According to Muhammad majority of muslim women will be in hell anyway so.

Moderator's Comment: Mind your comments.

LagosShia: [Pooya/Ali Commentary 33:50]

As explained in the commentary of verses 28 to 32 of this surah the Holy Prophet as a young man married Khadijah Kubra, a woman older than him, and she remained his only wife till her death. She gave birth to Fatimah Zahra through whom he was blessed with his progeny (see commentary of surah al Kawthar). It clearly indicates that he was not at all a sensuous male. The reason for his marriages, after the death of Khadijah Kubra has also been stated in the commentary of abovesaid verses.

Thrash! Muhammad remained faithful to Khadija because she was a rich and powerful woman and wouldn't have tolerated infidelity from him. Are you saying all the time Khadija was alive there was no poor helpless widow for Muhammad to marry 'out of compassion' and help out? Why didn't he do it then? Can quote from either quran or hadith where Muhammad marriage to his numerous wives were because of political reasons or they were poor widows? Don't forget most of those widows he married, he was the one that caused their husbands death directly or indirectly. He killed the husbands of non muslim women and married them. The Muslim widows he married, their husbands died fighting for him.

Amir Ali in Spirit of Islam says (on the authority of many Muslim historians like Tabari etcetera) that after the death of Khadijah Kubra with a view to cement his friendship Abu Bakr made an offer of his daughter A-isha to the Holy Prophet. At his persuasive solicitations the Holy Prophet consented. This was an act of Abu Bakr's characteristic foresight.

This is cheap lie. It was Muhammad himself that approached Abu and asked for his little girl hand in marriage.
Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's
hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I
am your brother." The Prophet said, "You
are my brother in Allah's religion and His
Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to
marry."
As you can see this Pooya of a guy is either a liar or just ignorant about islam. Either way he's no longer credible, on that ground his previous opinion on this thread will be disregarded.

Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each ot her to be brothers. So according to their costumes Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

Funny even Muhammad used the same excuse to reject a woman she did not like. Probably because she's not beautiful or not as young as Aisha.

With the example of Abu Bakr before him, Umar, also desirous of having a like influence in the close circle of the Holy Prophet, gave his daughter to him. Hafsa was a widow. Umar first offered her to Abu Bakr and then to Uthman but the offer was rejected by both, Umar mentioned this to the Holy Prophet, as a complaint, who, out of compassion, accepted her as his wife.

No wonder Muhammad slept with Mariyah on hafsa's turn. She's probably not beautiful and Muhammad had no regard for her given how cheap umar made her daughter. But is this how Muslims behave? Go around offering their daughters to anyone? The woman can't even date who she wants to marry to see how compatible they are. How can you make any intelligent and educated decision when you do not know your prospect mate? A blind choice is not a choice.

Similarly, he married other women mentioned in the commentary of verses 28 to 32, either out of compassion, or on account of clemency, or to help his mission. All the books of history are clear on this point.

For polygamy see commentary of Nisa: 3.

http://quran.al-islam.org/

Firstly marry out of compassion? Like really? Allah and Muhammad's only way of helping out widows is by just marrying and sleeping with them? Subnallah isn't Allah great? They couldn't just come up with something better?

Secondly i don't know who he's showing clemency to. Is it many of those slave girls who were free people before the Prophet took away their freedom and reduced them into slaves?

The mission one i feel is quite insulting to Allah and Muhammad. I really recommend a good long ban for you. You're saying that Allah's message is not convincing enough that Muhammad need to sleep with their women to drive his point home. Astaghfirullah!!!

LagosShia: Tabari recounts the story of Maria's arrival from Egypt:

In this year Hātib b. Abi Balta'ah came back from al-Muqawqis bringing Māriyah and her sister Sīrīn, his female mule Duldul, his donkey Ya'fūr, and sets of garments. With the two women al-Muqawqis had sent a eununch, and the latter stayed with them. Hātib had invited them to become Muslims before he arrived with them, and Māriyah and her sister did so. The Messenger of God lodged them with Umm Sulaym bt. Milhān. Māriyah was beautiful. The Prophet sent her sister Sīrīn to Hassān b. Thābit and she bore him 'Abd al-Rahmān b. Hassān.

See Muhammad choose her because of her beauty not for anything else. After you'll be telling me his numerous marriages were for political reasons.

—Tabari, History of the Prophets and Kings p.131.


The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) lodged her – meaning Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah and her sister – with Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, and the Messenger of Allaah (S) entered upon them and told them about Islam. He took Mariyah as a concubine and moved her to some property of his in al-‘Awaali… and she became a good Muslim.

—Al-Tabaqaat al-Kubra, 1/134-135

Wasn't the bolded part my argument all along which you've denied? Obviously Muhammad had séx with a woman he did not marry, as that history makes it clear she was just a concubine. So lemme rephrase my question which was hacked off in my earlier post. (dunno why there's too much censorship on this thread ).
Muhammad had sèx with a woman he did not marry, so which category do we place this under fornication or adultery?
Holy Quran 33:50

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;-

Lol, so what's this verse suppose to do? Shut me up? Something that you or any other muslim do it's a sin, punishable by death even, when Muhammad does it, it's all good, holy and everything in the sight of Allah. Don't you think someone is taking us all for a ride?
Even so we still have a case of Muhammad having séx with a girl he did not marry. It's not only mariyah, he had other slave girls he used to sleep with. If you take the verse 4:24 where Muhammad says: “Also (prohibited are) women already married,except those whom your right hands possess ...” it becomes clear that a Muslim is allowed to have íntercourse with his right hand possessions (slaves, women captured in war) even if these right hand possessions are already married. If you still doubt the meaning of this verse, there is a hadith that can make this clear. Bukhari 7,62,137 talks about Muslim warriors who usedto have séx with woman captured in war. But because they did not want to impregnate themand wanted to return them for ransom after raping them, they went to Muhammad asking about coitus interruptus (spilling the sperm on the ground). The prophet did not prohibit the ràping of the women but rather said do not do coitus interruptus because if God has destined for a soul to be born it would be born anyway.

Still on sex jamboree licensing verse

in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful".

Lol, no difficulty for him? Does the prophet have difficulty in controlling himself? Apparently yes!

the incident between Muhammad and Jauniyya, the princess of Bani Jaun, the text of the hadith is clear. Muhammad made sexual advances on her and told her “give yourself to me as a gift”. The word used here is habba . This is not a proposal for marriage. Habba which means “give as a gift” is free sex. The favor is paid pack with a gift from the man to the woman in the form of goods or money. The woman rejected him and muhammad tried to beat her. Is this act befitting for a Prophet? Bukhari 7.63.182

Holy Quran 4:24
(...Except the forbidden women) the rest are lawful unto you to seek them with gifts from your property (i.e., dowry), provided that you desire chastity, not fornication. So for whatever you have had of pleasure (Istamta'tum-temporary marriage) with them by the contract, give unto them their appointed wages as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what you both agree mutually (in extending the contract) after fulfilling the (first) duty. Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise".

I've discussed this verse above. It just licenses fornication, adultery and rapé

Now compare the case of Marya (ra) and that of Hagar (as) in the bible.did Abraham (as) wed her?

No Abraham didn't wed her. Did Muhammad wed Mariyah ? No

You have to understand that the definition of marriage (permanent and temporary/concubinage) in Islam from a legal point has to do with consent and the recitation of the marriage contract.party and extravagance are all modern day complexities.

temporary marriage that's muta is no different from 'one night stand' or 'prostitutioñ'. It's even a mockery of marriage. And for the so called moral guide of all mankind to engage in such is quite disgusting.

Muslim scholars are divided whether or not Marya (ra) was a wife or remain part of "what your right hand possess".from all indications she was a wife.

Muslims scholars won't be divided if she was a wife or not. She wasn't anyway. History doesn't support your theories.

the Prophet (sa) had her have her own apartment just like the other wives and treated her justly.she's also a "mother of the believers".the Prophet (sa) didn't use and dump her.from the very first instance of her arrival,he retained her for himself and gave her sister to his companion,after both sisters embraced Islam.

Lol, Muhammad got her another house far away from the main home just like the history you quoted above states. She was just a concubine.

Whatever meaning "paris-love" what to smuggle into this event is her headache.

Am not smuggling anything into anything. You're just doing damage control, ah but the deed is done.

Both sides should make peace through diplomatic ways. War will not help anyone. Enough with the finger pointing.

Live and let's live

Lol this muslims. How do we/you know Muhammad wasn't lying when he claimed he saw Gabriel in a cave? It was his wife that even convinced him! You guys really need to watch that innocence of Muslims

Un-following as i type.

Muhammad has no moral ground to tell Muslims or anybody for that matter how they should regard Jesus. We owed gratitude because he did what? Cleared Jesus name? Clear Jesus’s name of what? Was Jesus a raider, a plunderer, a ràpist, a pèdophile, a slave maker, an assassin or a misogynist and woman beater like him? Of what Jesus’s name had to be cleared? I tell you whose names Muhammad cleared? He cleared the names of Genghis Khan, Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Contede Dracula. Whatever crimes these monsters committed Muhammad did worse. He cleared the names of all the evil people who have ever existed and were born after him. Jesus does not need Muhammad to clear his name. Why would such a holy being need his name to be cleared by a villain like Muhammad? What a preposterous pretense! The worst man is to clear the name of the best man? The absurdity of the Muslim mind is beyond belief.

Take a look at Muhammad's sex life. The fact that he even uses the name of his god to get women laid tells you everything you need to know about that man.

Muhammad's greatest miracle was not the Quran. It was his capacity for lovemaking. Allah had given him libido of 30 men.

Most infidels don’t even consider the Quran to be a big deal. They say a village idiot can come up with such a book. They claim that many people have written much better books than Quran. But I ask them, can anyone match the apostle’s lovemaking prowess? Can they at the age 60+ make love to 10 young women in a single night? Yes, the apostle could do it. That is an irrefutable proof of his prophet hood, which cannot be duplicated.

Bukhari,Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268 :
“Prophet was given the strength (sexuál) of thirty men”.

Apostle could make love (continuously) to all his wives (9 to 11) in one night.
Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268 :
"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number. Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)."

Bukhari,Volume 7, Book 62, Number 6 :
The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night

Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 270 :
Aisha said, "I scented Allah's Apostle and he went round (had sèxual intercourse with) all his wives."

PROPHET SULAIMAN WAS GIVEN SIMILAR STRENGTH
Such sexual capability and stamina is Allah’s miracle, which is only given to prophets.
Prophet Sulaiman used to have sex with 100 women in one night.
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 74i :
Allah's Apostle said, "Once Solomon, son of David said, '(By Allah) Tonight I will have sexualintercourse with one hundred (or ninety-nine) women each of whom will give birth to a knight who will fight in Allah's Cause.

EVEN GIBRAEEL VISITED APOSTLE’S BEDROOM

His lovemaking was complimented by visits of archangel Gabriel. Once apostle even introduced Gabriel to Ayesha. Ordinary mortals cannot see angels, needless to say she was clueless and could not see him.

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 57, Number 112 :
Narrated Abu Salama:
'Aisha said, "Once Allah's Apostle said (to me), 'O Aish ('Aisha)! This is Gabriel greeting you.' I said, 'Peace and Allah's Mercy and Blessings be on him, you see what I don't see' " She was addressing Allah 's Apostle.

ALL HIS OTHER WIVES WATCHED HIM MAKE LOVE

Apostle’s love making was outstanding and was watched (and admired) by all his wives....

Bukhari, Book 008, Number 3450 :
Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) had nine wives. They (all the wives) used to gather every night in the house of one where he had to come (and stay that night).

PEEPING TOMS ALSO WATCHED

Bukhari , Volume 9, Book 83, Number 38a :
A man peeped into one of the dwelling places of the Prophet.

Muslim, Book 025, Number 5369 :
Anas b. Malik reported that a person peeped in some of the holes (in the doors) of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him).

Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 38 :
Narrated Sahl bin Sa'd As-Sa'idi:
A man peeped through a hole in the door of Allah's Apostle's house,

ALLAH BLESSED HIM WITH SPECIAL PRIVILEDGES FOR SEX
Allah not only gave him extraordinary capability for sexual activity but also gave him special privileges to use those capabilities.

.Q33.50 : O Prophet! In addition to all your wives, slave girls and captured women, we have made lawful to you all your first cousins and any believing woman if she gave herself to you, and if you desire her.

ALLAH BLESSED HIM WITH DIVINE INSPIRATIONS AFTER SEX

Tabari Vl7, page :7 Ayesha said “Inspiration came to him when he and I were in a single blanket”.

Bukhari Vol 5 Bk57 N 119
Prophet said, By Allah, the Divine Inspiration never came to me while I was under the blanket of any woman except Aesha.”

WOMEN OFFERED THEMSELVES TO HIM
Apostle got solicited by hot women all the time (apparently by the publicity of his greatness in bed)..

Bukhari,Volume 7, Book 62, Number 24 :
A woman came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have come to give you myself

Bukhari,Volume 7, Book 62, Number 48 :
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khaula bint Hakim was one of those ladies who presented themselves to the Prophet. 'Aisha said, "Doesn't a lady feel ashamed for presenting herself to a man?" (Don't blame them sis Aisha. Your husband sexual prowess have gone beyond borders )
Bukhari,Volume 7, Book 62, Number 53 :
Narrated Thabit Al-Banani:
"A woman came to Allah's Apostle and presented herself to him, saying, 'O Allah's Apostle, have you any need for me ?'"Thereupon Anas's daughter said, "What a shameless lady she was! Shame! Shame!" Anas said, "She was better than you; she had a liking for the Prophet. Lol

HIGH LIBIDO CAUSED QUICK ARROUSALS
Apostle got aroused at sight of (attractive) women.

Muslim, Book 008, Number 3240 :
“Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her”.

AROUSED BY CLOSE RELATIVES
One day Apostle of Allah walked into his adopted son Zaid’s house. Zaid was not there but he caught a glimpse of his voluptuous and beautiful wife Zainab (she was apostle’s first cousin) in her birthday suit.

Tabari wrote:
"One day Muhammad went out looking for Zaid. Now there was a covering of hair cloth over the doorway, but the wind had lifted the covering so that the doorway was uncovered. Zaynab was in her chamber, undressed, and admiration for her entered the heart of the Prophet".

The admiration aroused him instantly, which Zainab also noticed and mentioned it to her husband Zaid later. He rushed to his father’s house and offered Zainab to him. Muhammad worried about possible bad press and refused to accept it. But Allah will not take no for an answer and insisted on their union.

Q 33:37 We gave her (Zaid’s wife) unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons”.

AROUSED BY WIFE’S MAIDS
Once he entered his wife Hafsa’s room for some reason. Hafsa was not there but he found her lovely young maid Maria instead. He grabbed her and jumped into the bed with her for a quickie. But the quickie was not quick enough and Hafsa walked in and started yelling. To quieten her down and to please her he promised never to touch her maid again. However Allah did not approve of this sacrifice and revealed surah66:1-5
This story is also reported by Ibn Sa'd in Tabaqat:
Waqidi has informed us that Abu Bakr has narrated that the messenger of Allah (PBUH) had intimate intercourse with Mariyyah in the house of Hafsah. When the messenger came out of the house, Hafsa was sitting at the gate (behind the locked door). She told the prophet,O Messenger of Allah, do you do this in my house and during my turn? The messenger said, control yourself and let me go because I make her haram to me. Hafsa said, I do not accept, unless you swear for me. That Hazrat (his holiness) said, by Allah I will not contact her again. Qasim ibn Muhammad has said that this promise of the Prophet that had forbidden Mariyyah to himself is invalid' it does not become a violation (hormat). [ Tabaqat v. 8 p. 223 Publisher Entesharat-e Farhang va Andisheh Tehran 1382 solar h ( 2003) Translator Dr. Mohammad Mahdavi Damghani ]

AROUSED BY LITTLE GIRLS
Apostle was helpless because of his 30 man libido and got excited even when he saw little girls.


Apostle was helpless because of his 30 man libido and got excited even when he saw little girls.

Ibn Ishaq: Suhayli, 2.79: In the riwaya of Yunus Ibn Ishaq recorded that the apostle saw (Ummu’l-Fadl hen she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ (ref.10, p. 311)
Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) andhe said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her." (Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636)

AROUSED BY DREAMS OF LITTLE GIRLS

Twice he dreamt of a little girl, the 6 year old pretty daughter of his best friend Abu. She waswrapped in a silk cloth. He uncovered the silk cloth to see more of her.

Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 15 :
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said (to me), "You have been shown to me twice in (my) dreams. A man was carrying you in a silken cloth and said to me, 'This is your wife.' I uncovered it; and behold, it was you. I said to myself, 'If this dream is from Allah, He will cause it to come true.'"

He ended up marrying the 6 year old girl of his dreams.

HIGH LIBIDO CAUSED REALISTIC DAY DREAMING

Apostle could think of having sex with his wives and it felt just like real thing..

Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 660 :
Narrated Aisha:
“Allah's Apostle used to think that he had sexuàl relations with his wives while he actually had not”.

AL SHANBA GETS KICKED OUT OF BED

When the apostle was in bed with his new young and pretty bride Al Shanba bint Amr bin Ghiffuriya, she told him that if he was a real prophet, his most beloved 2 year old son Ibrahim would not have died of sickness after he prayed day and night for him. Apostle kicked her out and divorced her without consummation of the marriage.

(She was lucky to have been just kicked out. Allah demands death for doubting Mohammed)
(Tabari, vol 9, page 136)

Everything said here is from Islamic authentic sources

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tintingz: hehe. . .will Jesus marry Mary magdalene when he returns?? Did you read my post well? You were posting about Jesus and se.x and i gave you that early church believe Jesus was dating Mary magdalene and had a child for him. . .Jesus kissed her in front his disciples according to the gospel of philip, so this is not about Jesus return. . .

You're very moronic. I asked you a question, allah said Jesus didn't marry, he'll come back to do that and some heretic scholars who said Jesus did, who was lying? So what Jesus kissed her? Hadiths that showed muhammad kissing his fellow men, does that make him gay?

and if you can show me where Jesus was rolling with the jews like padis and bowing to wailing wall, instead he was cursing them and their generation and even said 'God kingdom will be taken away from the jews and given to another NATION!' Jesus(as) didnt own a church nor go to churchs on sundays to dance and clap naah! he didnt. .

Lol, so jews bow to walls right? What is that thing you in mecca you muslims face when praying? Stone? Wall? Not that i care.

he only followed the law GOD gave to prophet Moses(as) just the way Mohammed(saw) believed in Moses he never copied the jews Moses never established judaism nor bow to walls, this is to show that Islam as been in existence right from Adam(as). . .

If moses never bowed to walls or kiss them, why did Muhammad do it? He bowed and kissed the mecca stone. Isn't that idol worshiping?

quoting hadith from your anti-islamic cant help you cuz i see how you add to the hadith
Ibid. Vol.3:222-23: “When Muhammad came to Medina he saw the Jews fasting on the day of Ashura. Muhammad too started fasting on that day and ordered his companions to
do so.” (So as to please, persuade and bribe the Jews to join his cult).
you think you can fool sumone here? cuz i didnt see where Mohammed(saw) was copying the pagans, jews whatever.. in that hadith cuz He(SAW) was already fasting before he came to medina and was already fasting before Islam(Quran) was known to the arabs, Abraham(as) fasted, was he a jew??

Lol, of course i added it that's why it's in bracket. So? The verse clearly states muhammad saw the jews fasting, and asked his companions to do the same. Not that he fasting himself. You seem to ignore the other one where Aisha clearly said your unoriginal prophet copied pagan rituals. Only God knows other practices he copied from others that wasn't reported. Yet somehow in your brainwashed mind, he started those practices. I think am done with you.

To all haters, so Israel should just stand and watch Hamas throw rockets into their lands just because they're from WW1? Look at the reasoning of some people

Hypocrites where were y'all when hamas was launching drones and rockets into Israel?

tintingz: ^^lol. . .according to some early church or scholars. . .Jesus was dating Mary magdalene(one of his disciple) and she born a child for Jesus.

Lol really? And Allah or was it Allah that said Jesus would come back, get married, have children, die and the world will end. So who's lying here? Some early church scholars or Allah?

. .the Quran says Jesus and his disciple are muslims [quote]You're very silly for making that statement. Who cares about what your Quran says? No time did Jews or Christians, believed anything resembling Islam. Muslims claim all these faiths were originally like Islam and changed later by the believers. This is a bogus claim. The burden of proof is on Muslims. Where is the proof? [quote]and dont tell me Jesus(as) is a christian nor a judi

did i tell you that?

cuz Jesus did many thing islamicaly he didnt bow to a wailing wall nor clap and dance in churches

Don't you feel stupid for saying the bolded? How can you say Jesus did things Islamicaly when it was your Prophet that copied from Christian, jewish, pagans customs and any other thing he could get his hands on? Take for example, most of the rituals muslims perform are copied from either jews or Pagans.

Sahih Bukhari, Vol.3, Bk.50, No.116-7, 219-20 and vol.5:172: “Aisha the mother of the believers said, “Fasting was the custom of the pagan Quraish. So Muhammad used to fast and later he Islamized the pagan customs.”

Ibid. Vol.3:222-23: “When Muhammad came to Medina he saw the Jews fasting on the day of Ashura. Muhammad too started fasting on that day and ordered his companions to do so.” (So as to please, persuade and bribe the Jews to join his cult).

Now after copying this customs from others, deranged muslims like this one will come and tell us that they did was islamic. Simply saying you're practicing borrowed rituals from jews, pagans etc

What gratitude does Christians owe to Muhammad when according to Muhammad's lifestyle, Sunnah and the Quran Jesus failed miserably? To start with;

NEITHE R JESUS NO R HIS FOLLOWE R S WE R E EVE R MUSLIMS

There is absolutely no historical or biblical record that Jesus or his followers were ever Muslims. There is no record of Jesus or his disciples making wudu , performing salat facing Mecca, observing Ramadan or going to Arabia for Haj and running around the Kaaba temple half nàked loudly chanting Arabic verses.

WAS JESUS A MUSLIM PROPHET MATERIAL?

The litmus test of prophet hood is comparison with the life of our prophet. Who was a perfect human being and a role model for all. Any one who claims to be a Muslim prophet must meet at least some, if not all of the characteristics of our role model, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Let us look at the characteristics of prophets and proofs of prophet hood.

OBSESSION WITH SEX

This is the most important proof of prophet hood. Obsession with sex comes with the prophetic territory. All Prophets love sex and are extremely Hot. They all go for variety, quality and quantity. When Mo was not a prophet he was very docile and had no sèxual ambitions. He married an old rich widow, a mother of three grown up daughters, when he himself was just 25 years old... He was more interested in spending his days and nights in a cave than making love to his new wife. Only after he got prophet hood his libidó shot up and he went after every beautiful woman he could lay his hands on ... That is the reason Quranic aya 33.50 was sent down to meet his enormous séxual appetite..

33.50 “ O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, your captives and slave girls, your first cousins, and any believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to have sex with her”.

After his prophet hood he married over 15 beautiful younger women including a six year old child.. and, also enjoyed any woman who offered herself to him as well as hundreds of captured women who came in his share of booty. Sometimes he had sex with all his wives during the night and slept with other Muslimas and slave girls during the day.

Our modern day prophets like Rev Jim Jones of Guiana, Rev David Koreish of Texas, Rev Warren Jeff of Utah and Shree Bhagwaan Rajneesh of Oregon etc may not have been as lucky as our prophet but they had their fair share of action.. They all were known to have sex with their disciples and their daughters. Even the unsuccessful sixty something prophet Brian Mitchel of Utah kidnapped 15 year old Elizabeth Smart and slept with her for a year before getting nabbed cutting his prophet hood career short..

Jesus of Nazareth miserably fails this prophetic requirement.. He never even toucheda woman leave alone having sex with multiple partners although he had a very large number of disciples who would have gladly obliged.

FREE LOADING

Jim Jones, Warren Jeff, Bhagwaan Rajneesh, and David Koreish also lived very comfortably off their disciple’s wealth and earnings. Prophet Brian Mitchell also stopped working after he became an apostle of God. However he was nabbed before he could build up a following so he had to live like a popper.

Records show that Jesus never milked his followers for his living. Thus he fails this test of prophet hood.

BRUTALITY

. A prophet cannot have people doubting his prophet hood or criticizing his activities. Unless such trouble makers are punished/ beheaded without mercy and made an example of , a prophet cannot carry on God’s work. That is why Quran was very clear to Prophet Mo on it..
9.5 “ Slay the disbelievers wherever you find them”
4.89 “ Kill the renegades”

Our prophet had all his critics brutally beheaded which terrorized and silenced any one who dared to doubt him.. His world record of cutting throats of 900 disbelievers in a singleday is still unbroken .

Leave alone non Muslims, our prophet waseven brutal to believing Muslims who dared to be negligent on the daily compulsory prayers .

Bukhari:V1B11N626 “The Prophet said, “burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.’”

That is the reason even after 1400 years good Muslims soil their pants even with the thought of criticizing their prophet or missing a salat...

Although today’s infidel laws preclude public throat cutting of the critics, modern day prophets have used other innovative ways of persecution of those who doubt them or leave their cults. Several cultists who left Jim Jones were killed by unknown assassins or found dead mysteriously.

Jesus did not have a single throat cutting to his credit. On the contrary he himself was brutalized and crucified on a cross.

R ETALIATION

Allah has said
2.178 “Retaliation is prescribed for you. If some one kills your slave, kill his slave, if some one kills your woman, kill his woman andif some one kills your man kill his man”

Above is the minimum Islamic retaliation which is a “fard”. If you go by Sunna , you are allowed to retaliate by killing anyone who even makes fun of you.. Our prophet was laughed atand made fun off in Mecca at a time he was weak. After he captured Mecca he ordered to instantly kill all those who made fun of him even if they were hiding inside Kaaba. That is the proof of a real prophet.

Once Rev. Jim Jones announced that by praying he had created fried chicken. A disciple joked with his friend sitting next to him“how cum his created fried chicken tasted like Kentucky fried chicken” The friend ratted on him and the perpetrator was poisoned and almost died of diarrhea. He had to publicly apologize.

Jesus said “love thy enemy”. This violates aya 2.178. Thus he violated Quran.

PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDERS

Most prophets suffer from disorders like narcissism, pedophilia, Temporal Lobe Epilepsy(TLE) etc. Our prophet being the top apostle, suffered from all of those plus some more like Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and schizophrenia. His epileptic seizures gave the Muslim Umma the glorious Quran and his OCD gave them all the wonderful Islamic rituals. These exclusive Islamic rituals include wudu and salat involving repetitive washing of hands and feet intermittently all day long followed by multiple setups and ass ups. Other rituals include obsessive compulsive reading of Quran without understanding every day and reciting Quranic ayas during every activity even defecating, making love and passing gas.

Jesus did not suffer from any of the above disorders. He did not prescribe any daily repetitive rituals nor he recommended bible recitals during defecation, love making, passing gas etc.. That is an ample proof that hewas not a Muslim prophet. And no reasons whatsoever for Muhammad or anybody/thing to tie/tame Muslims tongues in regards with Jesus.

CONCLUSION

No way could Jesus be a Muslim prophet. He was totally opposite to Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and violated Quranic ayas on every step.

If at all he was Eisa of the Quran than he could not be a Prophet but perhaps God himself since Eisa cured the sick and gave life to the dead.. .

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What's this thread about?

Cry for help?

So just because couple of threads were created in a few weeks questioning atheist belief(or non belief) that this guy suddenly turned into an atheist evangelist preaching tolerance.

Never knew the religion of gays is also for the lily-livered

Almost everything

And all those girls saying they rarely Ping, they're lying!

maclatunji: This thread is for Muslims to discuss and educate themselves. Stop trying to derail it- you have been warned.

I didn't see 'muslims only' on the OP did you? And i didn't derail it as my comment was on topic. Stop the discrimination please and restore my post.

Thanks

Paris-Love[b:
Did Muhammad marry Mariya?[/b]

Let's allow Muslim scholars to answer that themselves.

Here the in islamic site run by muslim scholars, a questioner, obviously a muslim starts his/her question with a clear statement that Mariya was a concubine/mistress. And i quote

Praise be to Allaah.

That took place after the treaty of al-Hudaybiyah. Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was a Christian, then she became Muslim (may Allaah be pleased with her).

Ibn Sa’d said:
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) lodged her – meaning Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah and her sister – with Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, and the Messengerof Allaah (S) entered upon them and told themabout Islam. He took Mariyah as a concubine and moved her to some property of his in al-‘Awaali… and she became a good Muslim.
Al-Tabaqaat al-Kubra, 1/134-135

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said:
Mariyah died during the caliphate of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab, in Muharram of 16 AH. ‘Umar gathered the people himself to attend her funeral, and he led the funeral prayer for her. She was buried in al-Baqee’.
Al-Isti’aab, 4/ 1912

Mariyah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was one of the Prophet’s concubines, not one of hiswives. The Mothers of the Believers are the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their (believers’) mothers (as regards respect and marriage)”
[al-Ahzaab 33:6]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had four concubines, one of whom was Mariyah.

Ibn al-Qayyim said:
Abu ‘Ubaydah said: He had four (concubines): Mariyah, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh.
Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/114

For more information of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – the Mothers of the Believers – please see the answer to question no. 47072

And Allaah knows best.

Certainly Allah does

Source: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/47572

Here's another Sunni Muslim writer G.F. Haddad answers to the question:
Was Mariya al-Qibtiyya ever a spouse?

No. Mariya al-Qibtiyya was never a spouse but rather a surriyya - with tashdid of the ra and its kasr - until the passing of the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, as explicitly stated by al-Zubayr ibn Bakkar in his al-Muntakhab min Kitab Azwaj al-Nabi salla Allahu `alyhi wa-Sallam (Risala 1983 ed. p. 60):
„Wa-tuwuffiya Rasulullah (salla Allahu `alayhi wa-Sallama) wa-Mariyatu fi mulkih, fa`ataqat, fa`taddat `alayhi thalatha hiyadin ba`dah.“
„The Messenger of Allah passed away as Mariya was in his possession (as a slavewoman), whereupon she became free then observed, after her widowhood of him, three menstrual periods of home seclusion.“
Important notes:

1- The Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, made her wear hijab (contrary to the normal ruling for slaves).

2- At one time, because of one of his wives‘ complaint, he swore that he would stay away from Mariya then Allah Most High ordered him to cancel that oath without kaffara. (This may have been confused with a revocable divorce by some; in reality it confirms that a self-pronounced tahrim of mulk al-yamin is inconsequential. Imam Malik said: „Haram is halal with regard to slavewomen.“)
Source: http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/sm1-gfh_e.html#9

Even in wikipedia; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_al-Qibtiyya

So we've a clear case of a man sleeping with a girl he did not marry. It's left for to put under any category you want [b]


Shalom

abubello: @paris -love What is the source of this malicious fairytale? Can you quote a recognized Islamic source for this fiction

Paris-Love:
Did muhammad send Hafsa away so he could sleep with Mariya on her turn?

Well, the answer is yes! Muslims here even in the past tried to cover this embarrassment up with the ridiculous story of honey. The story of honey is ludicrous and makes no sense. Why so much ado about honey? And who said honey smells bad? This hadith has been forged because obviously even in those early days, Muslims felt embarrassed. However the hadiths about Muhammad sending Hafsa out so he could have sex with Mariyah makes perfect sense. It is in accordance with the Quran and in conformity with Muhammad's conduct.

This story is also reported by Ibn Sa'd in Tabaqat:
Waqidi has informed us that Abu Bakr has narrated that the messenger of Allah (PBUH) had sexual intercourse with Mariyyah in the house of Hafsah. When the messenger came out of the house, Hafsa was sitting at the gate (behind the locked door). She told the prophet,O Messenger of Allah, do you do this in my house and during my turn? The messenger said, control yourself and let me go because I make her haram to me. Hafsa said, I do not accept, unless you swear for me. That Hazrat (his holiness) said, by Allah I will not contact her again. Qasim ibn Muhammad has said that this promise of the Prophet that had forbidden Mariyyah to himself is invalid' it does not become a violation (hormat). [ Tabaqat v. 8 p. 223 Publisher Entesharat-e Farhang va Andisheh Tehran 1382 solar h ( 2003) Translator Dr. Mohammad Mahdavi Damghani ]

Qasim ibn Muhammad of course tries to find justification for Muhammad's breach of his own promise. His words had no validity why he gave them and if they were valid why he broke them?

In a sunni tasfir, of the Sura Tahrim.

'Also it is reported that the Prophet had divided his days among his wives. And when it was the turn of Hafsa, he sent her for an errand to the house of her father Omar Khattab. When she took this order and went, the prophet called his slave girl Mariyah the Copt who bore his son Ibrahim, and who was a gift from the king Najashi and had sexual intercourse with her. When Hafsa returned, she found the door locked. So she sat there behind that locked door until the prophet finished the business and came out of the house while pleasure[?] was dripping from his face. When Hafsa found him in that condition she rebuked him saying you did not respect my honor; you sent me outof my house with an excuse so you could sleepwith the slave girl. And in the day that was my turn you had intercourse with someone else. Then the Prophet said, be quiet for although she is my slave and halal to me, for your contentment I at this moment make her haram to myself. But Hafsa did not do this andwhen the Prophet went out of her house she knocked at the wall that separated her room from that of Aisha and told her everything. Shealso gave the glad tiding about what the Prophet had promised about making Mariyah haram to himself. [ Published by Entesharat-e Elmiyyeh Eslami Tehran 1377 lunar H. Tafseerand translation into Farsi by Mohammad Kazem Morefi]

And there we've it.